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Troll Alert????????? I have seen these posts before and they disturb and baffle me. Are they just for the "in click" who know ALL or what.
The tone is snide and and from my unknowing point of view I find them disturbing. Are only certain people and opinions wanted here?
I am unable to read all the posts so dont know what is going on under the surface but the surface has an ugly troll face in these posts and I dont see what they have to do with lyme.
They make me wonder if I am not wanted.
Posts: 561 | From connecticut | Registered: May 2004
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mlkeen
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I'm always the last to know! I think I'll just lurk for awhile.
Actually I've dicovered the joys, after the frustration of setting up an account and figuring it out, EBAY. I'm selling, I'm buying, I'm watching. It must mean I'm getting well.
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Now I get the gist of troll alert. I've been wondering about some posts recently as I have been posting a few items. Some of the posts seem angry and dogmatic. Am I on the right tract?
tj
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Why can't we just ignore a troll and not announce it to the the entire board??
The ones who've been around awhile know by now not to respond to a troll. I guess it's really obvious to them.
Newer posters don't normally reply anyhow to negative, trollish posts...and if they do, so what?? What possible harm could it do for a new poster, trying his or her hand at giving some advise or sympathy, to respond to a troll? How bout this - when less-seasoned posters (or caught-off-guard "old timers") get caught up conversing with a troll ,then someone should email them privately to say, pssst, this person may be a troll. Lets try to cut down on the paranoia factor that happens each time someone spots a troll.
By the way, there was a troll hanging around when I first began here, and in my paranoid lyme state I agonized that everyone thought it was me !!! (after all I am highly intelligent )
But JEESH it still disturbes me as much as it does others. I'm getting tired of new people emailing me asking if I think others here think theyre the troll...it makes all but a very few of us edgey and paranoid.
Ok that's all
I have no idea who this latest troll is...
Posts: 340 | From Harrisburg, PA | Registered: Jun 2003
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I seem to have hit the same nerve with others and it is-------------
Which is more disturbing to readers. The troll posts or the posts claiming a troll is roaming the halls????????
Since I have never seen or recognized a troll post for me its the troll warning posts. Definately disconcerting for newer people not in the "in loop"
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troutscout
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Unfortunately...troll alerts are needed.
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ladyhawk
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I agree with Sofy. I am a new kid on the block and apparently also not in the "know".
I did not have the "foggiest" notion what this kind of post meant and am still uncertain.
Where I originally come from (that would be Chicago) we call a spade a spade, so if someone has a ? about someones motives can't we just be up front adults and ask?
If someone were questioning my motives I would expect them to be candid and ask me. Of course I understand that one will never be able to weed out all those who only want to harm but sometimes you just gotta take a chance. I took one by coming to this forum, I trusted that people would be understanding because we are all in the same boat and need to help each other and I want to do my part.
Again, I ask Please Post the Rules so that NEW people can understand what they can and can not do in this forum. I have asked once already.
I apologize in advance for any "hurt feelings" this may cause but it is truly disconcerting to see this "Troll Alert" and not have a clue. I do believe most of us only want and need a little bit of a shoulder to cry on occasionally and as much info as we can get through the fastest means possible.
troutscout
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Newbies,
Please...you have NOT seen the damage a troll can do....as it has in the past.
Those that have been here long enough see them occassionally and alert people...because they don't want someone being "turned -off", or given....quite literally...life threatening advice.
In one case a troll diguised as New York City Police Officer...invited an 8 year old girl to meet him for advice.
Trust us who have been here for a LONG time......you WANT troll alerts.
Trout
------------------ Now is the time in your life to find the "tiger" within. Let the claws be bared, and Lyme BEWARE!!! Iowa Lyme Disease Assoc. www.ildf.info
Posts: 5262 | From North East Iowa | Registered: Sep 2002
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Yes, I agree that trolls are destructive. No question there are groups, individuals, camps of people who would like this incredibly informative board shut down and gone....and,if I'm correct, THOSE are the trolls necessary to identify?
What trolls ARENT: our regular, sick lyme posters who happen to pick on or fight with one another or disagree, even strongly, with one another. It would be abnormal for hundreds of sick people to all love one other and agree on things - this doesnt happen off line or on line - so while annoying for the rest of us, intraboard fighting does happen. (this paragraph is for you tj, to help you understand better what a troll is or isn't. For ex. I used to think a troll was anyone who happens to be in a bad mood. Now I know that's not it)
But for the truely dangerous trolls out there, the REALLY dangerous trolls out there who want to catch us dispensing medical advice without a licence (for example), why don't troll spotter do this: jump into the post and come right out and confront the person maybe like this:
"Hey, you're a troll and I know it, get off this board, (TrollsUserName) !
Now, just seeing "troll alert" or "troll among us, heads up", etc., tells most of us NOTHING! If one is so confident there is a dangerous troll, expose him fully!
I'm not in a good mood today, and this post was directed at noone...I've just always wondered why we don't have the nerve or whatever to "confront" the troll right away - you know, come right out and say "troll alert - its so and so".
Oh, we're NOT sure if it's a troll or not?? Then say nothing until we're sure - we're silencing a lot of potential helpers with paranoia.
Yes, I agree many would like to close down lymenet for good, I agree with the idea, just not the execution.
Leslie
Editing to say that I'm not picking on you crimeoflyme. Others have posted similar troll alert warnings in the past. It's just there are so many new people here lately that I anticipated that a bunch would be confused by this post. I was hoping some of the posters more experienced than I could elaborate, give examples, inform newbies with specifics. Thanks, troutscout, for specifics, I don't know many, though I do realize that we strongly need to protect this site and our posters.
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ladyhawk
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Dear Troutscout, Thank you for clueing me in on the "danger" of these "trolls". It appears by the number of posts I see next your name that you have been around long enough to know the deal with them.
I would only ask once again for the "RULES". I do not know them and can't understand if they are unwritten or that I am just plain stupid, which could also be the case.
How do we know someone is a "troll", what can and can not be posted, etc.....
I really do not wish to do something unintentionally that is stupid.
If it is not a good idea to post a reply with these rules I have an email address.
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troutscout, great job at explaining the importance of a troll alert! it's a shame we have to worry and confuse the newbies when thay see a "troll alert" post.
But the reality is- they are dangerous! For those of us that have been around a while have to alert each other so we can keep an eye sort of speak
on what they do say to a newbie. So we can straighten the damage out!!!!Make sure that person does get the right information!!!
MADDOG
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Ha,That troll is allways fun for awhile.The way to tell is he wrights books instead of a post.Then makes it all very legal looking.Then thretons people with legal action for dissagreing with him. MADDOG
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Tincup
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Maddog..
You are the best... and 1/2 crazy.
Here is a post that I hope will help others concerend about trolls..
We also have an "unwritten" set of rules that we try to go by.
I don't guess we have ever written them out.. but I will try to share a few I would like to see all members follow so this site is comfortable for all to use.
1. We don't use doctor's names on the board unless we have their permission. This is to protect them and us.
2. We try to treat others as family and remember our goal... to help others.
3. We try to keep the topic worded so we would be comfortable when children come here for help.
4. We try to moderate the site ourselves so as not to over stress the folks who provide it for us.
5. "Thank you" and "I am sorry" are appropriate and can't be over used. Manners are to be shared.. and not to be hidden under the rug.
There may be more... but this will give you an idea of what I think they could be if they were written.
GEDEN13
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sic'em jodie!!grrrrrr..lol!....gary
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Lyma Bean
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Musta missed that one completely I thought you were talking about Bruce aka Rally Monkey aka .......
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