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I am scheduled to get my 6 root canals out in February. I have been doing IV abx with no improvement. I started rechts-regulat a month ago. Just ordere chlorella and am not sure when to start taking it. Also was getting IV phos/chol and was going to add chelation for elevated lead level.
In what order should I do this. GIGI or anyone know? I know it is tricky. Thanks.
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Up.
GiGi will definitely have some input here. She is an expert on this.
I think I recall that you need to remove the mercury amalgams before starting a metal detox program but GiGi can confirm.
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I don't know if this wil help. But I went to the top of the screen,clicked on search,typed in "metal detox" and got 139 posts on the subject. These would be well worth reading.
Take care
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I had all my amalgams out 15 years ago, so at least that is not a problem. I never did chelation then, so who knows where it could have migrated to. That could be a problem.
I will do a search tomorrow. I thought GIGI would have the latest info after attending the conference.
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many of the past posts I found where filled with alot of GiGi's sugestion. Take care
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Aliyalex, I hope you have a dentist/dental surgeon who is Class A taking out the root canals and cleaning out everything surrounding them. Often that is not done correctly, and people are not much better or worse off than before. So only go to someone that has the experience. If I ever grow new teeth and had to do it over again, I would only go see Dr. H. in Reno. Six root canals is a lot - yet, I beat you - I had 12. They nearly killed me.
In what order should I do this. GIGI or anyone know? I know it is tricky. Thanks.
If you had any amalgam fillings left, they would have to come out first. The explanation of why is too long for here. You should have been taking chlorella a long time ago. So at least start now and follow the timing and quantity as I have posted it many times. Read the article that tells all chlorella does.
I hope you have no other crowns, etc. with amalgam under them. As long as you have any amalgam left in there, you cannot go on any of the clathrating agents, because the remaining mercury in teeth could easily be moving up into the brain where you probably have enough already.
Once the dental work is done, get help from a practitioner who is experienced in removing the toxins and heavy metals from the body. Find a practitioner that also does Neural Therapy to help get it out of the face, head, and of course all the other areas.
If you have to have a surgical intervention with the root canals, cut down on the Rechtsregulat for a couple of weeks before you have the work done. I don't know your condition, but the enzymes are better after the work is done. Then they really shine with good blood flow into the tissues and you will heal a lot faster.
Cilantro, goat whey for mineral balance, and chlorella is a good starter. For thioether and mercaptans, MSM in high doses works well (3000 mg and up). That is the toxin that has been penetrating your system and it takes a long time to get it out. None of that happens instantly, but takes patience and trust in a good doctor that knows the difficulties and tricks.
If you tell anyone you have a lead problem, they will suggest EDTA chelation. It removes lead allright, but it does not do much if anything for the mercury. I have been told that mercury is even more difficult to get out after EDTA. Once you start to address the mercury, all the other toxic metals will also start moving. So I would make mercury clathration priority. There is really no chelation. First the mercury is mobilized with the help DMPS or other agents, and then the chlorella takes over in the gut and hopefully moves it out of the body. Different areas need different agents. A good doctor knows how.
Don't follow someone's internet advice, or worse, follow a book that the person sells. Mercury toxicity is much too dangerous to fool around with lightly. Find someone that can see you face to face and determine from there what you can handle.
Just remember, it is not possible to accomplish all that in a few months. Just remember how many years it took you to accumulate all these toxic substances. It will take a year or two to get it out during which time your symptoms should start to diminish. The first reaction to the removal is probably going to be worse, because the Lyme bugs are going to raise their heads when they start losing their habitat. But - only then will you have a chance to get the microorganisms really under control.
This is all based on my experience and from what I learned from Dr. K.
Take care.
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Thanks for all the input. I have also been reading the archives. Can make your already spinning head spin faster. But can also bring info and hope. Even got a salame if you havsa recipe!
You once told me about a doctor in Fort Worth you recommended. Can you PM me his name if you have it? I posted in looking for a doctor section, but haven't heard anything.
There is a chelation specialist here in my area who did a challenge heavy metals test. He recommended that even tho I had the reegular heavy metals test prior. The new test revealed lead for which he recommended chelation every third phos/chol IV tx.
Since I am extracting 5 root canals and 1 abcessed tooth, should I start the chlorella now and the cilantro after surgery when I restart the rechts-reg?
In the meantime I will get to the chelation doc and check him out further. I will also continue to pour through the archives today. Thanks.
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Choose your practioner carefully. Ask all the ??? you want before going.
I chose one of the dentists on Dr. K web site and when I got there found out he no longer does ART but uses a computer and only uses a homeopathic treatment.
He took out my amalgams, at a horrendous price, sold me 6 bottles of the homeopathic stuff, did the computer thing and declared me free of metals in about 3 months.
Is he right? Who knows. I never felt right about his treatment or him but brushed aside my doubts and proceeded. I didnt know where else to go.
He came highly recommended to me by my holistic endo. but I still dont know if I believe Im free of metals.
Just cuz a practioner took a class with Dr. K and got himself on the website years ago doesnt mean he is following what Dr. K says today.
Its like every thing else you have to be a carefull consumer and ask the right ??? Unfortunately my brain doesnt always work well enough to know what those ??? are.
Good luck. Sorry to have posted so much negativity but felt I should tell you my experience.
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Yes, ask questions before, ask questions before, ask questions before. Ditto, Sofy, I do so agree.
The doctors listed on www.neuraltherapy.com are listed as having taken the "neural therapy" class or classes. That does not mean they know ART or use it. For most it is not fast enough or they have to take several courses to learn it properly. ART is definitely not Department Store muscle testing .......... But at the top of the Referral list it clearly states that they have taken neural therapy. It says nothing about ART last I looked.
The machines will only tell you the information that is stored in them. If that machine has never heard of a mutated virus-bb-bacteria, it cannot give you the answer if the resonance is sought from the machine. It will not resonate with the bug that's in you. I wish people would start to understand this. Read my post of Monday or Tuesday where I explained that all the bugs are mutating in us -- heck, they are doing it as we are sitting here reading ---- and no computer has that information. The mutation factor, that they are mainly bartonella today and then pick up some DNA from one of the other critters, is what makes treatment of this disease so difficult. We really do not know exactly which one we are battling at the moment, and a month from now it has become another mix-of-bug. ART solves this to a great extent.
You will see on the heading on the neural therapy website - that the listing is for neural therapists. Often some of these that have taken up neural therapy into their practice start to learn ART. There is a course in April for beginners. Copy the info on Dr. K's website and hold it under your doctor's nose. We need to wake these guys up.
From all I have seen over all these years since I was sick and got well, I have not seen any other method that works as well as ART. Put a fire under these doctors and have them learn ART. They will have patients coming out their ear. Not only that - they will also start to effectively help their patients get well. A young naturopath, who trained under Dr. K. for a couple of years, just started her own practice and she is already overflowing! That ought to tell something.
Got to have my breakfast now.
Take care.
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HOW do you know IF you have mercury in your teeth or NOT?
Do you have to make a special appointment with your dentist for THAT TOO???
Or can he tell you from past xrays, or visual imspection, or what?
I need some more teeth pulled, but no money for that right now with having to keep up as best I can with the herbs and abx for this stupid LD.
WILL having the teeth pulled take care of ALL the mercury in your mouth, or could there still be some in there from before when teeth were pulled?
My dentist says he uses a rubber dam when he removes amalgams. Is that effective?
LC
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Sofy, I went to see a highly recommended homeopathic practitioner when I was struggling with peri-menopausal sx.
He listened very intently...very intently. Asked me what seemed like a jillion questions. Went over to his little cabinet, came back with one teeny, tiny round pill. Put this under your tongue, he said, and you'll be absolutely fine.
Then he charged me a bloody fortune!
Turns out the guy was just a homeopathic duck!
Nothing in me changed until I found a knowledgeable and sympathetic Obgyn and got my hormones balanced.
Re Lyme, I feel very confident about the Chinese herbs I'm given by my acupuncturist, as well as her weekly treatments. I'm slowly getting well and feel she's contributed a lot to my progress. -- the herbs in combination with abx from LLMD, not to mention foot pads.
I'm a big proponent of alternative treatments (even have several homeopathic remedies in the cabinet for things like gastritis and bruising), but after emptying my bank account for the homeo duck, it will be awhile before I go that route again!
Just my own experiences for what they're worth.
Andie
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Alyalex, I can't send you a private message on this board because I only want direct e-mail from people.
E-mail me, please. You must know Dr. L.C. in Fort Worth, the Samento doctor.
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