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If logic prevails wouldn't only 1 lyme specific positive band be ENOUGH to diagnose lyme disease?
Isn't some of the bands only specific to the lyme disease causing borellia?
My IGM:
23-25 IND 39 IND 30 + 45 + 66 ++ 93 +
I know that 93 is specific. So how else could it become positive if I didn't have borellia specific antibodies?
Thus the conclusion = 100% likely hood I have lyme disease? It seems illogical to think otherwise. Posts: 170 | From Vancouver | Registered: Apr 2006
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You also have 23-25 & 39 EVEN if they are IND it doesn't mean that they are negitive. Plus when you go on abx it can bring out the infection and you will get more positive bands.
That said, you can be negative for all bands and still have lyme. This has been proven beyond a doubt by the fact that a mother who was sero-negative gave birth to a dead baby who had borrelia in it's organs. I believe there are other studies that show seronegative lyme infection.
Lyme is a clinical diagnosis and only a qualified LLMD can tell you if you have lyme or not. In my non-medical opinion, I'd say band 93 means that you have it. Terry
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Jon, I was treated initially based on a WB IgG with just band 34 positive and a multitude of symptoms.
It was quite sometime ago but my test became more positive with treatment.
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Terry, In your link it gives reference to the igG, not igM. Do the bands in both detect the same antibodies? FOr some reason I remember reading that the IGM is less credible than the IGG, can anyone clarify this?
I dont think band 30 is lyme specific. What is CD57??
I am going to send more samples to Igenex. I'm going to try the Complete lyme test, and the completely Co-Infection test. Stupid test kit will probably take a week to come in, I might try and send it without their test kit to save time.
On a plus note I just bought a coconut and I will drink/eat it shortly. Posts: 170 | From Vancouver | Registered: Apr 2006
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Here's a link to Lymetoo's post about WBs. Lots of good stuff there including a breakdown on the bands/weights. (I think 30 is a possible variant of osp A)
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Jon, 93 showed up on my IgM too and my LLMD said that it was significant. My understanding is that the significant bands apply to both the IgG and IgM but I don't know that for a fact. Terry
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From the link that trueblue posted:
"Response to antibiotics is the same if either is positive, or both. Some antibodies against the borrelia are given more significance if they are IgG versus IgM, or vice versa.
Since this is a chronic persistent infection, this does not make a lot of sense to me. A newly formed Borrelia burgdorferi should have the same antigen parts as the previous bacteria that produced it."
Sounds like it's a matter of opinion although Dr. C makes sense logically to me.
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I just read through that thread. If what he's saying is true it answered almost all of my questions!! It's interesting he says that bands 66 and 30 are also specific to lyme. Since both those came out positive for me...
I just picked up more antibiotics today, according to him I should not take any? Since I planned on having my blood drawn a week from now and shipped to Igenex. Abx stays in our system 10 days after we take it?
That coconut was divine. After some failed attempts I actually got a power drill and drilled a hole through it for easy juice access. More refreshing than water. I will slowly eat the meat as the evening progresses. Posts: 170 | From Vancouver | Registered: Apr 2006
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30 is also documented by Dr J as Lyme specific. CD57 and Bb bands are mentioned on my web site under "Testing".
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