Topic: "I Sing the Body Electric"--- Walt Whitman on the Rife Machine
Greatcod
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Not really. However I swiped the following from Wikipeda on the American Royal. Maybe Whitman did know something we don't.
"Rife came to believe that he could find a Mortal Oscillatory Rate for any pathogenic organism, and directed his research accordingly, culturing and testing various pathogens with his machine.
Rife documented, in the course of this work, the precise frequencies which destroyed specific organisms.
Working with Dr. Kendall, Rife was able to show that many, if not all, contagious bacterial diseases could be cured using this radiation treatment. Interestingly, these frequencies were typically in the 10-100 MHz range, which could explain their effect since this is a microwave range well known to affect water and water-bearing materials.
In a specific example of this, in 1935, Dr. Johnson conducted tests using Rife's machine to test growth of Typhoid in medium. Test results demonstrated no motility of typhoid rods which were exposed to Rife's machine.[10][11]
Unfortunately, in spite of these reported successes, no paper submitted to a peer-reviewed medical journal, nor any details of the diagnoses of the patients before or after treatment in the cancer trials are currently available."
I know I don't know. That's always a good place to start.
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D Bergy
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The highest Rife frequency I could find is under 12 MHz for Cancer This falls within the Radio Frequency Spectrum. Most are well below that range. I am not aware of any higher frequencies that he used for destroying pathogens. Below is a good reference.
The microwave spectrum is usually defined as electromagnetic energy ranging from approximately 1 GHz to 1000 GHz in frequency. (Wikipedia) By some definitions it could be as low as 300 MHz. There is some controversy as to where the boundaries lie exactly, but these are common generally accepted ranges.
Cordless phones run in the Microwave Spectrum.
Most all Lyme frequencies are in the lower part Audio band. Audio band consists ranges of 20 to 20,000 Hz.
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Marnie
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Frequencies can and do destroy CRYSTALS.
We do use SOUND waves to destroy kidney STONES, for example. However, we then flood the system with the bits and pieces...Ca would go up...way up...
And we know now that people who have undergone this procedure to shatter kidney stones are at great risk for diabetes later (2+ years) and elevated cholesterol.
Did we not clear the calcium fast enough?
Stones..calcium + oxalate and uric acid. Mineral + acids (the COMBINATION).
Our own cell WALLS are not crystalline as I understand it.
Zinc fingers...mineral + acids (cysteine and histidine bound to zinc)
If a pathogen has a crystalline structure, it is possible this structure can be impacted by the RIGHT frequency.
Do we have crystalline structures? It appears so. I don't understand completely the following, but pay attention to the mention of GAL4-DNA and the word crystal:
"We list parameters for only one half-site of the trp- and GAL4-DNA complexes, because other half-sites are structurally similar. Tramtrack (TTK) parameters were averaged for the two similar copies of the complex present in the crystal (12)."
Are we shattering Bb's trp and GAL4-DNA crystal structure or hitting its zinc fingers?
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Greatcod
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It would cost next to nothing for any Rife machine manufacturer to get biology students at a local college to conduct an in vitro study on an easy to culture bacterium. Seriously. I'm guessing that if they lent the school the machine, and paid for the cultures, they could get it done for under a thousand dollars. I check Pub Med and Google Scholar for "Rife Machine", and nothing comes up. Why are they so afraid to test their machines using scientific methods?
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D Bergy
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This has been done by the manufacturer of the machine I have and others. It usually will have no effect in vitro.
However, the effect in vivo can be quite different.
This is why the mechanism of action is so confusing and not totally understood. Sometimes it may be just stimulating the immune system. Some of the effects defy logic, at least for me.
The Lyme spirochete has been seen under the microscope spinning, bursting or otherwise damaged by at least one Lyme patient. Would be easy to replicate by any researcher.
I have the same question, only in reverse. There are any number of capable doctors or researchers that are aware of people using Rife machines for Lyme. You would think a few would run some preliminary research to see if there is anything to the claims being made. Instead, you get "it uses no known mechanism of action". Thats like not using electricity because you do not understand all aspects of it.
It is totally ignored in spite of all the user reports. That also seems to defy logic. I do not think anyone is afraid of an honest trial. They do it all the time only with individuals. But, there is nothing to be gained by it either. Even if it works it would still has the same status it always has as an experimental device.
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D Bergy
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Here is another problem with the Wikipedia article.
Rife claimed to have used his microscope to directly observe, in vivo in various media and living tissues, the life cycles of microbes too small for regular light microscopes.
Although electron microscopy has failed to replicate his observations, a Rife supporter in 2006 completed and demonstrated what he calls a "proof of concept" microscope[8] designed to verify that the Rife optical instrument was viable.
I just wanted to point out another very obvious misleading statement in the Wikipedia article.
The statement about electron microscopy failing to replicate Rife's observations is true but misleading. An electron microscope is not capable of replicating his work since it kills any living organisms. How can you confirm the life cycle of microbes if your microscope kills the microbes as soon as it is turned on?
Why would the person writing this article, who certainly is more educated than myself, make such an obviously misleading statement?
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