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Aniek
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Just looking for what others think.

Last week I took 3 days of Cipro for a urinary tract infection. I started the Cipro Tuesday morning.

About 36 hours after the first dose (Wednesday night) I started to have intense pain in my mid-spine (thoracic area).

Today (Saturday) I had to postpone a final exam because I was in so much pain. I had pain in all my joints, although it feels more like pain referred from elsewhere rather than the joints themselves. Worst in my hands, wrists and ankles, but everywhere.

I've had this pain before. Much more intensely when I took Flagyl.

I'm trying to figure out if I am herxing from the Cipro, or if the UTI put me into a flare. Would a herx last this long after stopping the abx? If it is a herx on Cipro, does that suggest Bart?

Or do you think the stress on my body of the UTI put me in a flare? Or will we just never know...

I've been off abx since November, because of GI problems that could be related to my pancreas, gallbladder or liver. My LLMD is nervous about me restarting abx because of that. But if this was a herx, then I think I need to be on abx again.

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....just a thought...it could be side effects from the cipro...could you try bactrim for the UTI instead??

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I've been off the Cipro since Thursday. I was only on it for 3 days. It's 2 days after the last dose and I'm still in pain.

The UTI is gone though. [bow] I'll take Lyme pain over that any day.

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A lot of people on the forum here had permanent damage to their GI tract from taking Cipro.

I've been on it in the past, but after the horror stories I've heard about here, I think they'd have to tie me down to get me to take it ever again.

I have my own theories though...

My guess is the Cipro killed something - one of these bugs - but in doing so, one of your other bugs now has more to eat, so now one of your other bugs is flaring.

Just a theory. I could be wrong.

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