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Anneke
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I have read in a couple of different articles this assertion that Lyme literate doc's have conflicts of interest with IV infusion companies. The latest assertion from this Dr. Sigel...

Does ANYONE KNOW of any of our LLMD"s benefitting in any way by ordering IV's???? I know mine doesn't. It just doesn't make sense! If anything, our dr's are very reticent to order IV's because of the hostile environment created by the IDSA and the jerks at the top, and because of lawsuits. Our lyme dr's have witnessed dr. after dr. getting hauled before medical boards and losing everything. Of course, Sigel wouldn't mention that would he. All the while, he is making $500 an HOUR or more to deny claim after claim.

So, I'm asking - has anyone seen or heard anything about your treating dr. benefitting from IV's???? Mine gets ZERO from my home healthcare when i needed it. And, I had to do the research, then tell her what infusion co. I wanted to go with!

We need to SHOOT THIS ACCUSATION DOWN!!! It makes me so furious what these guys are getting away with.

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dontlikeliver
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They're clutching at straws. I would say that most of us don't even have infusions these days, but orals.
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Goes both ways:

I had a non-LLMD give me IV and he steered me to an infusion company which happened to have a rep roaming the hospital. [Roll Eyes]

I had already contacted their competitor a week earlier for IV.

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My LLMD would not call my insurance company and ask them to allow me to infuse at home, even though I was experiencing episodes of hostility at his staff members (including HIM) and nearly crashing my car daily. He kept stalling.

I have no doubt they make money off of every patient who infuses, especially if they infuse the patient right there in their office. It's the American way.

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I don't do IV abx, but I do IV nutrients. My LLMD has no problem with me going to an integrative medicine office closer to work for me to get the infusions.

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My angel Doc told me, aghast, that he had been approached by an infusion company to rec'd and get kickbacks- he was horrified and warned me NOT to go to them because he considered them unethical!!!

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Sojourner
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This thread makes me laugh (in a sad way, of course).

Why doesn't this sorry excuse for a doc (Sigel?) question all of the neuros who were foaming at the mouth to get a bite out of the once monthly IV treatment for MS--Tysabri. Which by the way is for LIFE.

Before Tysabri was pulled (because people died) my husband's neuro had built a whole in-office infusion center......kind of like a beauty shop with reclining chairs. Called the local news and everything...disgusting [Mad]

Oh no---he wasn't going for a kick back...he was going for the whole enchilada=cha-ching!

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Don't know the details, but I 've read that lots of oncologists buy cancer meds from Big Pharma and use them to treat patients at their office, making considerable money on the mark-up.
I also read about money that some psychiatrists get big money from Big Pharma for prescribing their drugs..one dude in Vermont got $600,000 in a year that way.
By no means do all docs do that, though.
And Sigal is for sale-- something of an intellectual sleaze, IMO. The pot calling the kettle black.

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Yeah, When I had a wait to see a real LLMD of a month, i just went ahead and made an apt with this infectious disease doctor so i could atleast get a good test and get things moving in the right direction sooner.

This doctor has an Infusion place behind her office, and she is making mad money off of the insurance companies.

In my experience, It is the doctors who are really ripping off the insurance companies. When you have hundreds of thousands of doctors charging insurance companies rediculous amounts of money you cant help but think that it might be part of the reason insurance is so much these days.

800 dollars an IV every day is too much. 1,600 for one accupuncture apt is too much. 500 for services NOT rendered from a doctor is too much.

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Parisa
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There are plenty of surgeons who steer you to surgical centers in which they own an interest. It usually isn't mentioned until you arrive to fill out paperwork.

I just don't know why they think LLMDs are raking in the money. They'd have much more tranquil lives if they weren't LLMDs and probably make more.

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Well, I would imagen most LLMDs could not get away with overcharging and other immoral stuff because they are already running the risk of insurance commpany, and medical scrutiny. My LLMD charges only 200 a visit, and is always available to help. He is also afraid of being put out of a medical licence for treating with what is concidered 'unusual medical practices'.

LLMDs are cirtantly fighting the good fight.

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