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hurtingramma
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Can one have a normal TSH and still have the T3 and T4 be out of whack? Something is really going on with me and I suspect thyroid, but my TSH was normal.

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I'm far from an expert on Thyroid testing but I know that before my lyme diagnosis, my thyroid test results were bouncing around all over the place.

They blamed it on all sorts of things, such as the iodine from a heart catherization they had given me and the list was extensive. But years later, it settled down and my doctor TOLD me I was in normal range.

I started seeing a N.D., looking for answers since the M.D.'s of all specialities couldn't figure it out and I still wasn't even aware there were lyme specialists.

In any case, my N.D. looked at my lab work for my thyroid and said, "I can't believe they called that normal. It may be normal if you want to feel like you are 90".

So I guess all I'm trying to say is that what some doctors still seem to put in a "normal range", others don't. You may want to get your actual numbers and see how close you are to one edge. Just a thought.

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My thyroid was normal before the tick bites. Not long after that, my TSH started to rise to eventually go above 9 mIU/L. I also had a very high thyroid antibody test result (Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, i.e. hypothyroidism).

Consider getting the thyroid antibody test (anti TPO) & consider that the root cause may be a chronic infection (Lyme borreliosis or a related mutant)?

Chronic infection makes a lot more sense to me than the body attacking itself as is commonly believed in "auto-immune" theory. It made much more sense to me that my immune system was attacking a chronic infection since I had plenty of other evidence of that!

Chronic infection causing chronic disease is at the heart of the theory behind the Marshall Protocol. My TSH started dropping soon after starting the Marshall Protocol & is now normal. There are many that have had hypothyroidism completely resolve on MP! Pretty encouraging for a disease with no known cure!

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I learned from Fibroandfatigue.com about a conference in Ft. Worth. They treat a lot of lyme and other infections.

Here was their explanation:

When you have an underlying infection, your TSH, T3 and T4 can all be normal, but there is a hormone called T3 blocker (it has a technical name, but I don't know it).

The T3 blocker is designed to starve the bug, but also makes you tired. When dogs and cats get sick they sleep a lot because of this hormone.

I haven't gone back there for treatment because my insurance doesn't cover it, but they treat with abx and can test your T3 to T3 blocker ratio. When they stabalize that ratio, your energy increases.

I hope this helps.

Kevin

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