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This always confuses me. Do herxes happen in cycles? It seems about ever 4 weeks or so I get really bad heart palps and uneasiness feeling in my chest.
And today I have noticed that I am extra extra achey. Usually it annoys me but doesn't really stay on my mind, but right now it's hurting so bad I'm really bothered by it. I just wonder if it's a herx or I'm getting worse. Do you just herx at the beginning of starting a new antibiotic?
Right now I'm taking: 12 drops of Cumanda (I'm very slowly upping that dosage, but have been on 12 almost a week). 1,000 mg. of biaxin 600 mg. of omnicef
And lots of supplements, probiotics, ect.
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Posts: 248 | From Tejas | Registered: Jun 2007
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Before I did MP, antibiotic changes did yield an obvious herx within a few days - especially IV Rocephin. That was it though & I always relapsed, usually within a few weeks, after stopping the antibiotic(s). I did notice some cycling of symptoms on a 3-4 week period, but none as intense or obvious as the first.
On MP, antibiotics are pulsed (not taken daily) & in very low doses. The herx reactions are brief & come & go like clockwork for many, including myself. The response is VERY obvious & VERY encouraging. The doses are so much smaller than other protocols that you don't have all the problems with gut flora, yeast, etc.
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It's easy for me to tell because I have never had any really bad symptoms and I don't have flares, things are pretty much the same for me every day. When I start a new protocol and feel like death, with a major splitting headache, I suspect it's a herx.
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I have monthly flares, so I know they're coming and know I'll feel better in a couple days.
I used to herx every time I started a new med .. I'd feel worse for about six weeks, then start feeling better. So, for me it took six weeks to know whether it was a herx or if the med just wans't working.
The only time I declined in treatment was when I stopped Cipro. As the next six weeks went on, I felt bad on the different med, but never got better, so I got a clinical diagnosis of bartonella, went on Levaquin, felt even worse for six weeks, then had substantial improvement.
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This is a very good question.
I stopped taking abx but I did start the Cowden protocol recently. Cumanda is very strong stuff. I really do feel much worse if I push the dosage. I was only able to get to 10 drops in 16 days & that was too much. My doctor said to continue with the Cumanda as long as it's making me herx even though the protocol says to switch to the Samento at day 17. I can really tell with the Cumanda. It was much harder to tell what was going on while I was taking the abx. I guess since the abx caused other symptoms like stomach issues it made it more confusing for me. The only thing I feel is going on with the Cumanda is that it's causing pain in the areas that hurt from Lyme as opposed to other side effects.
Cumanda really knocks me out if I overdo it. I guess this means that it's working. I don't think I would combine Cumanda with abx but that's just my personal feeling about it. I may switch back to abx after I complete the protocol if I need to but I'm kind of weird that way. I'd rather do the herbal stuff first - most people do the abx first & then do the Cowden protocol. I did abx for about 8 months but I didn't feel like I was getting anywhere with them & it was making my immune system worse off due to side effects.
I guess the way to tell if it's a herx is if you up the dosage & you feel like you can't move, get out of bed, or deal with anything & the pain is all over & especially worse in the usual areas. The progression of the disease is gradual & ramps up over time. Just my experience of it...
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