Marnie
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IF the Bionic 880 produces photons which we absorb,
what happens when photons collide?
Before reading further, please note I DO believe far infrared just MIGHT work. I have done a TON of research on it.
Cancer cells *emit* photons. ``Spontaneous photon emission and delayed luminescence of two types of human lung cancer tissues: Adenocarcinoma and Squamous cell carcinoma."
And:
``CO2 molecules ***release*** a photon with a wave length of 10.6�m.''
and: ``laser: 10.6 �m (far infrared)''
Which I think is referring to a CO2 laser.
BUT:
``the photons must have *identical properties* for them to interact fully''
So...what do the photons in the 880nM wavelength interact with?
So far I know they interact with C (carbon), P (phosphorus), Mn (manganese) and Mg (magnesium).
These elements apparently ABSORB photons.
Now we know P is involved in lyme (ATP) and so is Mn (Bb is very dependent on that mineral for its enzymes) and Mg (which dives at the outset of lyme) and then there is C (one of Bb's routes is indeed CO2 - carbon dioxide - fixation).
So what happens when cells containing CO2 (which Bb is utilizing) emit photons and
collide with photons emitted by an LED using an identical wavelength?
We can NOT use the analogy of 2 like "charges" repelling because
photons have no charge.
For an ENTERTAINING video by a college student discussing this, go here:
Now, before I close, I need you to be aware of this:
The alternative treatments that have been used and are being used are being monitored closely. They do represent a real "threat" to "traditional" medicine and subsequently
the economy.
If we can indeed cure diseases using sound/lightwaves this will greatly impact a HUGE industry.
But it goes deeper than even that.
It impacts our religious beliefs.
What?!
Yup...our existence. What we are made of/come from and what the entire universe is made of and came from.
Some physicists believe energy (electrons and protons - well actually the quarks in protons) are the building blocks of everything (all life forms and the universe) which composes one big loop...no beginning, no end. This was on a science television show last night.
So where does GOD fit into this picture?
Do you follow?
Much of what has been suggested to heal - energy testing (E-meters originally), the use of light/sound to heal, no drugs, etc. closely follows (almost parallels) the beliefs of Scientologists.
And they are being very closely monitored...worldwide.
Many feel this is not a religion, but is a very wealthy cult, which was founded by a science fiction writer several years ago.
What bothers me MOST about that religion/cult is the following:
"Prof. Stephen A. Kent quotes Hubbard as pronouncing that "the purpose of ethics is
to remove counter-intentions from the environment.
Having accomplished that, the purpose becomes to remove other intentionedness from the environment."
Kent interprets this as "a peculiar brand of morality that uniquely benefited [the Church of Scientology]. . . .
In plain English, the purpose of Scientology ethics is to ***eliminate opponents***,
then eliminate people's interests in things other than Scientology."
And...
"For example, in Scientology it is considered a high crime to accept for processing:
people who are terminally ill, people who have an extensive history of psychiatric treatment, people who have been denied processing on the grounds that it might affect the safety and security of the organization and people who are members or ex-members, or in families of members or ex-members of media, police spy organizations and government spy organizations or any other federal agency in any country."
Selective membership. People are "processed".
And you thought all those science fiction movies you watched were just a joke...
Remember laser weapons on sci-fi shows? Reality now.
"Beam me up, Scottie"...
May become a reality.
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I am not sure if any of this , is of any importance , to sick people Marnie. ( Scientology ) I'm not thinking of joining , but I think I'm missing your point , somewhere along the line here.
Are you saying , that this kind of treatment, moves into there line of thinking ??? If so, I think , Not.
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I actually think it can be compared to many religious beliefs .... in Christianity Christ said he is the "light". Since one of his missions on earth was healing, it only makes sense that God would make light capable of healing.
There is the physical body and modern medicine has only looked at treating that part of us.
But there is another part of us that is ignored, our spirit. There is some kind of energy that generally is ignored by science. With acupuncture, biophotons, rife, etc., the energy side is treated.
I don't think it is incompatible with any religion to treat with light.
Thanks for your reflection on this.
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lymemomtooo
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I am hoping that they are on to something. Not the scientologists but those who are the researchers and pioneers into the light/far infrared devices. Under this roof, I am afraid I do not see good remission without something else out there.
I have heard a CD from Dr.K, one of Gigi's Drs, where he attempts to explain the difference between researchers, training, etc from US verses European Drs.
Now understand, I can't remember what I did 10 minutes ago but I think he said that US docs were trained more in a Biology/Chemisty base and the European ones were more into Physics, etc. So this might account for the different philosophies. Especially for the new light/far infrared products coming from Germany. Perhaps both will someday work together for the cure.
I do not think Scientology rules any of this, but it may accidentally parallel some of their beliefs. However, if Lyme patients are very ill or psychiatric, from reading your post, they certainly would want none of us to get help.
I am not argueing with you. You should know I bow at your feet. Just my take on it. lmt
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treepatrol
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John 8:12 (King James Version)
12. Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Makes sence to me
-------------------- Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Remember Iam not a Doctor Just someone struggling like you with Tick Borne Diseases.
Analog to digital TV signals beginning of next year...huge impact (esp. on those who rely on antennas, not cable).
And light to heal...
All of these changes are going to make a HUGE impact on society as a whole.
If God is the light and HE is within us all...the "loop" theory (never ending flow of electrons and photons - quarks) maybe God?
As opposed to a separate entity.
That would shake up a lot of current formal religions!
What we are learning about re: energy is going to revolutionize the world.
Scientists RIGHT NOW can convert heat to sound and then to electricity.
We turn sound into an electrical signal which is sent to our brains via special cells in our ears!
This stuff is not far fetched. It is real.
And the future of space travel:
"A way has been found to provide power for deep space mission. A University of California scientist working at Los Alamos has developed a way to generate electrical power for deep-space travel using sound waves.
The traveling-wave thermoacoustic electric generator could power space probes to the furthest reaches of the universe."
The bottom line is this: we are going to be using sound and light waves in ways that no one ever thought they could be used.
That includes healing diseases.
Keep a very open mind.
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northstar
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quote: It impacts our religious beliefs.
Not necessarily.
It depends on the person's interpretation.
In other words,
Is "light" the same as "Light".
Seems to be a difference of phenomenon or source of phenomenon.
Perhaps this question, exploration/examination of terminology, or debate (light vs. Light) would best ("safer"!) be handled in off topic.
Northstar
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Oh, I get what you're saying Marnie, you're not saying it affects religious beliefs, you're saying that the "establishment" will be all over us if this works.
You are absolutely right. Look what happened to Royal Rife and everyone who worked with him. Lives totally destroyed .... lifetime of work, destroyed.
You are right, there is too much for the "establishment" to lose.
Rockefeller has spent way too much to make our modern medicine what it is.
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Marnie
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That is the danger. I was posting as you were. Go up.
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quote:Originally posted by Marnie: That is the danger. I was posting as you were. Go up.
Yes, I actually read your second post and that was what made me understand what you were saying. At first I understood you differently.
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lymie_in_md
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The establishment may be in trouble in its own right from too many locations. Energy, terrorism, environment, money, health to name some of them. The inability of the FDA to find the source of the salmonella issue should be a thermometer of establishments strength.
We are in a time where change can occur in health care. We can only hope.
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sparkle7
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Very interesting thoughts! I don't believe that Scientologists have anything to do with this particular technology.
Using light for healing has been around for a long time. It was suppressed back in the 20's when the AMA decided to go with a pharmaceutical model. I posted a link a while back with the history of using light for healing.
They were doing UV blood irriadiation back in the 1920's (if I recall correctly). It was discredited & people practicing that form of medicine were subject to losing their licenses to practice medicine - just like Rife.
I think the guidelines for Scientology may have been put in place (re: no people with mental illness) due to the fact that Charles Manson was a Scientologist. I don't see how any "religion" could continue if it kicks out all people who become ill...
It's sort of like the Shakers - they didn't believe in having sex, so it eventually died out. No sex, no new children to continue the religion...
Some of these "arguements" could hold up about homeopathy & other medical areas...
Some people think that the Nazis were very enthusiastic about using natural remedies. Some go so far as to say they used the Jews in concentration camps to "prove" the remedies & that there was an extensive herbal garden at Auschwitz. They also used the Jews to do medical experiments on...
It is a known fact that the US gov't wanted access to these medical files The US forced many German doctors & scientists to come here so they could exploit their scientific research after WW2. It's called Operation Paperclip.
Would I not use homeopathic remedies due to this? NO. Do I think there is how Lyme started... YES.
I have also noticed that there is a group of Mormons creating a network of alternative medical goods & services. The company Deseret Biologicals & the company that makes the Asyra (which I heard Dr. Cowden uses) & some other companies are all Mormons.
Do I care... NO. I heard that the Asyra is quite accurate.
Yes, there is alot of funny business regarding the Scientologists. I have alot of "conspiracy theory" info about that since I'm interested in this sort of thing. As far as I know, we are supposed to have freedom of religion here - so, if someone wants to do that... it's OK with me.
You bet we have to be careful about using light for healing! Just think of how much the big pharmas have to lose... This is why people here think this paradigm of healing is a fraud. It's been suppressed for so long, people just can't understand it.
Will secret police come & knock down our doors if we have a LightWorks or other such device - I don't know.
As long as people just keep being lead around like sheep... they will overlook the possibilities that there are cures for disease. I believe that the people really running the show are light years ahead of what the mass populace is being given as a medical model.
I better stop now before someone comes here to shut me up...
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sparkle7
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PS - Nutramedix (the Cowden protocol) is a company in Ecuador or Peru... Many shamans have contributed to the knowledge of using herbs from the South American jungle.
I have a book here that relates shaman spiritual knowledge to using Cat's Claw.
Is this bad? I don't think so...
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