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I was watching a rerun of 'House' last night where some newborns were thought to have some bacterial infection, and they administer vancomycin and some other abx but nothing works.
Then they postulate it must be a virus since the abx are not working and it turns out to be an echovirus infection.
This made me think why many people don't get cured on abx. Maybe it's some virus that's complicating the issue? Maybe the Lyme bacteria has mutated with some virus that's causing it to be virus-like? (or maybe one of the coinfections has mutated to be virus-like)
Scary thing is viruses are a lot tougher to deactivate than bacteria.
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treepatrol
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Echoviruses are found in the gastrointestinal tract (hence it being part of the enterovirus genus) and exposure to the virus causes other opportunistic infections and diseases.yep Also i am leaning more to the Biofilm where germs get together in a slimey protection that dosent let abxs penitrate
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timaca
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It is very important to get tested for various viruses: HHV-6, EBV, Enterovirus (which include Coxsackie B and echovirus) and Chlamydia Pneumonia.
It is quite possible to have more than one pathogen making you ill....and since the symptoms are the same as lyme, you can't tell what is making you ill...unless you run some tests.
Also, enteroviruses can show up in tissues other than the gut. For info on enterovirus, you can view this video: (scroll down for Dr. Chia's presentation)
Inhibition of the epstein-barr virus lytic cycle by andrographolide.
Lin TP, Chen SY, Duh PD, Chang LK, Liu YN.
Department of Health and Nutrition, Chia-Nan University of Pharmacy and Science.
Andrographis paniculata NEES is a medicinal plant that is commonly used in Asia. This work demonstrates that 25 mug/ml of ethanolic extract from A. paniculata (EEAP) and 5 mug/ml of andrographolide, a bioactive compound in EEAP,
effectively inhibit the expression of Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) lytic proteins, Rta, Zta and EA-D, during the viral lytic cycle in P3HR1 cells.
Transient transfection analysis revealed that the lack of expression of Rta, Zta and EA-D is caused by the inhibition of the transcription of BRLF1 and BZLF1, two EBV immediate-early genes that encode Rta and Zta, respectively.
This study finds that the inhibition prevents the virus from producing mature viral particles.
Meanwhile, andrographolide is not toxic to P3HR1 cells when the concentration is below 5 mug/ml, indicating that the compound is potentially useful as an anti-EBV drug.
PMID: 18981566 [PubMed - in process]
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