randibear
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my friend, ann, must simply be obtuse...sorry, i get so frustrated with her.... arrghhhh
we were talking diet and i slipped badly on my birthday. i mean big time. ok, it was my 60th and i blew it. went to texas roadhouse and had steak, potatoes, tea, etc., had instant breakfast for breakfast, and blew it with pie....back on the diet big time tomorrow.
so, where was i? oh yes, told ann i blew it and she said "well, i'm not changing my entire life over this, i'm 76 and i'll deal with it with drugs."
anyway, we started arguing and i told her she was never going to get well if she didn't start changing a few things. her response was "well at least i'll die happy."
she said for me to PROVE IT TO HER that diet had an effect.
so now i'm looking for something that specifically says diet is bad....
i showed her singleton's book, the yeast connection, etc., no luck.
can you recommend something else? i feel like i'm talking to a brick wall.
maybe i should just give up huh?
-------------------- do not look back when the only course is forward Posts: 12262 | From texas | Registered: Mar 2007
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Dear randibear, My entire family is that way. Having to share a kitchen with gluten-eaters is killing me. No matter how careful I am, I still manage to get poisoned. My parents refuse to believe either of them have it, despite it is genetic. Talking to them about Lyme is just as impossible.
Some people are just plain stubborn, and you really cannot save people from themselves. God knows I have tried. I have learned this the hard way. Diet has a lot to do with it. No one wants to believe it, because then they cannot eat the transfat-laden, artery-clogging crap loaded with chemicals that causes cancer and everything else you can possibly think of.
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I understand your desire to help your friend. But I believe that diet is a personal choice.
Helping her get the best info out there for her to make an informed choice is perhaps the best you can do. You can't make her do it. What's the saying, "you can lead a horse to water.."
Pushing your ideas on diet may hurt the friendship. If you value her as a friend, then perhaps a softer touch is in order.
I say lead by example and offer to share books, ideas, and recipes. But don't attack her for her choices.
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I would leave her alone. No amount of talking or "proving" will convince her. She will have to find out for herself the hard way.
I assume she has Lyme too and is on antibiotics????
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I think a lot depends on what illness she HAS. And what, if any, treatments she's on (i.e: drugs)
If she needs to "get well" again, she should know by her 76th year here on this whirling ball of rock & salty water, that she will improve her health only by 'properly' treating what ails her & that Always includes modifications to one's diet.
As Wonko says, offer advice...possibly a book or 2, recipes... beyond that, don't strain the relationship.
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You wil not like to hear it but anyway: my opinion after 6 years of diet (elimination diets, glutenfree, low-carb, no milk, no egg, no alcolhol, no coffee, no name it!)
For me, all these diets didn't change anything and they didn't make me any better. In the contrary: Dr. S. anti-inflammation diet made me so weak that I was practically not functional anymore and although I'm back to eating what I ate before his diet, I'm still weaker and more fatigued than before.
I agree that when you are on abx you should be limiting your carbs - but not eat NO carbs.
Also, what I had to find out is: we are all VERY different and a diet which is good for one may be bad for another person. We have to find out ourselves what is good for us.
Since the anti-inflamation diet floored me so much I decided that from now on I will eat what I want. Six years of diet (and lots of abx) didn't make me well and just made my life more miserable than it is anyway.
I found that too much carbs and sugar make my digestion worse therefore I don't exaggerate with it.
Gabrielle
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randibear
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she's on levaquin, biaxin, flagyl and i think sometimes diflucan.
she's been treating about a year or so.
she says that when she went total no sugar she got very ill. i think he has thyroid and diabetic issues also and takes meds for those.
i know she watches sugar but she does eat a kind of weight watcher's type diet -- low fat.
she also takes a lot of supplements. she's big on those, xango, ezziac (sorry for spelling), um, some berry thing, others to sleep, etc.,
i think i'm better off not mentioning it, as she does seem to function sometimes better than i am. she certainly has more energy.
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I have to say that I haven't changed my diet since being sick. Maybe I won't get better or maybe I will get worse? I don't know?
But I think for myself it's like I am dealing with so much with this Lyme and my kids have it too. So much stress. I feel like so much was taken from me that food just can't be one of those things right now.
I guess I use some of it for comfort. I know that is not good! But it is what I have to do for now. Maybe I will change that later?
I mean I actually eat pretty healthy but I haven't given up eating ice cream or chips sometimes.
I just wanted to give you another point of view.
Oh also my LLMD never once mentioned anything to me about watching what I eat. The 1st I heard of it was on these websites. Strange!
Amy
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