Pinelady
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She was just on. It is not just Lyme doctors who have been bull whipped and jailed and prosecuted. I was amazed to hear her speak. She was promoting her new book. Who knows they may have the same prosecutors.
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Pinelady
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Hi Pinelady - Not to downplay what you've posted, but Suzanne is reporting rather old news. I was in Houston years ago as he fought the FDA & others to legitimize his bovine urine and other experiments for tx of cancer. He stayed and fought it out with the medical establishment and from the looks of it, has become very successful.
Now, let him take on Lyme pts and we'll see how far he gets. With all due respect, it's a completely different ballgame.
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Is this the guy who developed the ICHT treatments in Italy? The protocol that killed some Lyme patients?
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Is this the guy who developed the ICHT treatments in Italy? The protocol that killed some Lyme patients?
No no, tutu-ness. This is someone else altogether different. This doc had a little jammed ofc in Houston, experimenting with a compound(s) not approved by FDA and was nearly shut down. Instead of giving up, he, along with a bunch of his patients filed for FDA approval and they all went round and round for a few years, until this doctor won approval.
The former MD you're thinking of is the one who spent 10 yrs. in federal prison, (sent his money offshore beforehand) and when released, went to Italy & opened up a clinic.
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Thanks, ping. The other guy had a similar last name.
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Suzanne SOMERS is a self-serving opportunist that knows absolutely nothing about medical science or ethics. She is preying on the vulnerability of cancer patients.
TuTu...that was Dr. Nicholas Bachynsky who did ICHT or DNP...very dangerous at best.
They probably know or knew each other...both were trying to get away with using unapproved and UNPROVEN chemicals/drugs. Read the article...no proven results...what does this tell you?
Of course Ms. Somers will never acknowledge the truth, it would not sell her books. Beware those who have an agenda...they have forked tongues.
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Thanks, JR! I knew the names were similar. Makes me feel less "stupid"!
There's a lot of truth in what you posted.
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Keebler
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- Suzane Somers is doing us all a favor by helping us see there is much more to talking care of oneself.
She is providing a valuable service that the doctors and journalists have stopped: a well-rounded education, being open to various ways to approach a condition.
If the medical models were to have their way, there would be only ONE way and that often is very toxic to the body. There are safe ways to approach complementary medicine and many professionals who are well educated, who have done years of research to guide and educate patients. -
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JR - Although I agree with your assessment of Suzanne Somers and Nicholas Bachynsky, I'm not so sure I completely agree with your assessment of Dr. Stan B.
While the tx might be unproven etc., at least Dr. Stan stayed and fought to make his experimentation legal, unlike Bachynsky, who was underhanded in every way. (Does anyone know if he's still in jail? I think they threw him in the klink in Dec. 08.)
Not arguing the efficacy of the tx's; I wouldn't inject myself with modified cow pee either, but there's a definite difference in the way the 2 men behaved with regard to the laws of the land.
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quote:Originally posted by JRWagner: They probably know or knew each other...both were trying to get away with using unapproved and UNPROVEN chemicals/drugs. Read the article...no proven results...what does this tell you?
That doesnt tell me anything. And you too should avoid making conclusions based on mainstream anecdotes. All treatments are "unproven" at some point. Only treatments which get approved by FDA are the ones pushed by big pharma .Almost nothing else gets trough (that system works on purpose this way -to maintain oligopoly and profits )
Difference is DNP is indeed dangerous (and you can find plenty of research papers on that) ,while critique of Burzinski is based on cherry picked 6 cases study by FDA shills. There are also research papers which support Burzinski treatment and cured cancer patients as well
We need constitution amendments for freedom of medical care. FDA/CDC and monopolistic organization such as AMA are not interested in curing patients
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As I understand, Burzynski won his case so the details of the case seem somewhat irrelevant at this point. More than one person I trust very much has experience with people that went to Burzynski and suggested that if brain cancer were an issue for someone, that is where they would look.
I was excited to her Burzynski mentioned on the Today show clip this week, but on the other hand, it's often better for these doctors not to get a high profile. It opens the doors to more people coming after them.
If I had brain cancer, I'd certainly pursue Burzynski before ever looking at chemo and/or radiation.
I applaud Suzanne for opening the flow of information about options. People can look at the options and make their own personal decisions. I, for one, don't see chemo and radiation as viable options for many cancers and as a result, I want to learn more.
Her book is on the way...
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quote:Originally posted by SForsgren: I was excited to her Burzynski mentioned on the Today show clip this week, but on the other hand, it's often better for these doctors not to get a high profile. It opens the doors to more people coming after them.
Maybe we should stop hiding from "them". Maybe we should start organizing and have the freedom to get treatment amendment passed. I know a long shot- most people dont give jack. But there are many sick people whom mainstream medicine failed all over the place (cancer, MS).
Some day it should reasonate - fact is people are denied effective treatment trough multiple barriers, they are denied chance to get better because perspective research is not funded (or even worse -banned (stem cells), the progressive doctors prosecuted
They tell the same story "it is for safety". Screw the safety - I want make my own choices and have freedom to do so. I dont want to be forced into what some bureaucrat on payroll of multibillion dollar monopoly considers safe and effective. those who want pursue AMA/FDA/CDC and big pharmas remedies should be free to do so. On the other hand no one should be denied alternatives , let alone persecuted and prosecuted.
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Pinelady
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You are right Coltman, we have double standards of care. It comes from a right diagnosis if you
are so lucky. We have legalized the killing of another human being, yet we are forbidden to seek
our own medical care. Why? Because someone has more money than me? Because someone else is
smarter than me? Because there is always someone in the middle blocking the ball so they can get
their hands in the kitty? I had much rather be associated with a cancer group. Than a autoimmune
group. Why? At least with cancer someone will look at the cells! But I had much rather be know
as the Lyme group.
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