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B4LYME
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Do you take the lemon water only while you're herxing or all the time that you are being treated?

And, why take it, what does it do?

What else helps ease the symptoms of a herx?

Thanks for the help.

B4LYME

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Hepapro's AI#3 is designed to lessen herx reactions:

http://www.sinomedresearch.org/ZCprotocols/formulas/AI.htm

# 6 from this page: http://www.hepapro.com/hepapro_product.htm

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Lemon water can have some benefit but is not nearly enough for good liver support. It offers no on-going protection for the liver from the lyme toxins or from antibiotics in the manner that milk thistle or NAC does.

You'd also want to take something to lessen the cytokine storm. Stinging Nettle is good for that.

You can read more in links below:

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http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

Four pages


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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and details support measures:


http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)


THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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Quercetin might also be considered as you ask your LLMD about this.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Stinging Nettle - 277 abstracts

Stinging Nettle, cytokine - 14 abstracts

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/stinging-nettle-urtica-dioica.html

STINGING NETTLE (Urtica dioica)

Excerpts:

. . .

WHAT IT DOES: Stinging nettle leaf is bitter in taste and cooling in action. It cleanses the blood. Nettle seed nourishes and removes toxins from the kidneys.

. . .

* Nettle leaf extracts reduce inflammation, in part, by suppressing the release of inflammatory cytokines. They do this by blocking a chemical inducer known as NF-KappaB, which alters gene expresion. This may be one explanation for the beneficial efffects this herb has exhibited in rheumatoid arthritis (Riehemann et al., 1999).


* One set of in vitro experiments on live blood using extracts of stinging nettle leaf exhibited its ability to slow down the inflammatory cytokine response caused by endotoxins.

In the same experiments, when there was no endotoxin present, the nettle leaf actually stimulated an immune response. Researchers believed these results could explain the positive effects of this extract in the treatment of rheumatic diseases (Obertreis B et al., 1996).

- Full chapter at link above.

From ``The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook'' (Tillotson, et.al.)

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http://www.cpnhelp.org/liverprotection


Dr. Stratton Cautions on Protecting the Liver

. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.

. . .

My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.

. . . more at link above.-

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Lemon water alkalinizes the body. My LLMD says if it helps you, you might benefit from an alkaline diet.

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Glutathione or Xeneplex (glut. + organic coffee extract) suppositories.

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(The ole disclaimer: I'm not a doctor.)

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Thanks for all the responses. I do take milk thistle but with all the abx, I think I need more for my liver.

I've added in alpha lipoic acid this week and want to add NAC. How much are you supposed to take?

I'm also trying New Chapter's Zyflamed to see if that helps. My hips are usually not this bad.

I will look into stinging nettle, I've heard it's good for allergies.

I'm also using fiber and charcoal and bentonite clay to help remove toxins.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks,

B4LYME

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epsom salt bath & chlorella are my favorites.

Pam

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Do a search on this website. A lot has been written.

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