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gwb
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A few months ago I ordered some BioPure organic freeze dried garlic because it came highly recommended here on the forum. I believe this is what Dr. K recommends too if I'm not mistaken.

However, when I took them (yes with meals) they would burn my stomach. I decided to stop taking them and wait until my stomach healed up a bit and then try again later.

Today I took one with my oatmeal, like before, it started burning my stomach. I noticed that these capsules are not enteric coated.

My questions:

Is it more effective to take garlic capsules that are not enteric coated?

Are there any good quality brands of organic, freeze dried, garlic capsules that anyone can recommend that are enteric coated that don't burn your stomach?

Any suggestions?

Gary

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How do you know it's burning your stomach rather than a yeast dieoff?

just curious?

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gwb
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Well, because I can taste the garlic (burping it up) and it feels directly related to the garlic. This happens every time I try to take garlic capsuless. My stomach is sensitive this way. I'm not on abx and have no signs and symptoms of yeast infection.

My purpose for using this is for parasites. I'm putting ground up pumpkin seeds in my oatmeal, yogurt, salads, etc to help with this too. I seriously don't believe it's yeast related.

So, back to the question, is there any good quality enteric coated garlic capsules or tablets that I can take to prevent the burning?

Gary

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If it burns, don't take it. Yes, enteric coated is best. . Enteric coated are not at likely to burn, though. Still, if that should burn, just don't take it.

As part of a protocol, a formula, a plan, garlic should be balanced with other herbs that can help keep it from burning but it can still be strong. Are you taking this as part of a protocol or a stand alone supplement?

Normally, garlic capsules burn me, too. But, I did absolutely fine with Zhang's protocol. After some introductory period with meals, I could even take it on an empty stomach. But then, it could be the coating and also that it's not a stand-alone and went with two other combination formulas at the same time.

I still know that I've taken garlic but I get no burning.

Still, remember, there are many other things to consider. Garlic is not for everyone and there are other equally good choices.

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Using allicin as part of a one combined formula/plan; & another formula /plan without:

http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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Other things besides garlic/allicin are explored here:

http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

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Allicin/Allimax may be easier to tolerate

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If you read the instructions on taking Freeze Dried Biopure Garlic, you will not have a burning problem. You are supposed to take them right after you finish your meal, when all the food intake is complete, i.e. after the last bite of food.

Some people take a couple of hours after the meal and a couple of hours before the next meal, again. If it is done that way, take a capsule and open it into a bit of warm water (3-4 tablespoons full) dissolve it and drink it. Use enough water to make it a pleasant drink.

Again, it is important to read instructions especially if it is something that Dr. K. recommends. The reason are always there and explained.

From an old post of mine:

* QAI certified raw organic garlic, Advanced Sublimation Technology. 26,800 ppm alliin content (industry standard for high potency is 10,000 ppm).
* Historical data:
* First recorded 5000 BC - Sumerians of Mesopotamia.
* Hippocrates 400 BC - infections, digestive problems and cancer.
* Dioscorides 100 BC - infections, clearing arteries and Leprosy.
* Louis Pasteur 1858 - scientific proof that garlic kills germs.
* Known in WWII as the "Russian Penicillin".
The medicinal properties of fresh garlic have been known for centuries and it has been the mainstay `anti-infective'of numerous civilications through the ages.

The problem that has arisen in presenting garlic as a supplement is the inherent instability of the initial active substance, allicin, which is created when a clove of garlic is crushed.

Allicin is not found, as such, within the garlic clove, instead, when the clove is crushed, allicin is formed instantaneously from the interaction of an enzyme called alliinase on a precursor of allicin called alliin.

By selecting the highest quality of garlic cloves, rich in alliin and alliinase, and then gently freeze-drying them, a concentrated powder is produced which only releases the prime active allicin component when ingested and rehydrated, i.e. all of the allicin is released within the gastrointestinal tract. This is exactly how the highest possible potency garlic is presented as a concentrate with all of the active components intact,

This way it is an active concentrate of freeze-dried garlic rich in alliin and alliinase, which releases high levels of allicin directly in the gut when ingested and rehydrated.

We take the freeze dried garlic after the last bite of the meal, or take it between meals by opening the capsule into a bit of lukewarm water and drinking it. It tastes pretty good, I must say.

I used garlic every day (9-12 capsules divided) for many months - and I only could do that continuously by taking it in or from capsules. I had brief period of no garlic in between to avoid incompatibility - I never take anything without a break. Crushing would have stopped my taking it. But that is me ! If you put it in capsules, the alliin will disappear. I don't know what would happen if you freeze it. It is not freeze-dried. And it should be only organic --- not from China which probably is toxic as you buy it. I used and still use Biopureus or BioImmersion - note the potency of 26,800 ppm alliin and the potency that is industry standard.

I think it was one of my most beneficial medicines because it works across the board - antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, antiparasitic, and it is very effective with heavy metals.

Take care.

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GiGi,

What role does it play with heavy metals?

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GiGi, thanks for your advice. I took it in the middle of the meal, not the end of it. I will try again tomorrow to take it at the end of the meal.

Drinking it in luke warm water???? [Eek!] [dizzy] Hmmm, not sure I'm that bold. [shake] BUT, I will give it a try and if it doesn't work out you'll be the first to know about it. [Big Grin]

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Canefan,
Garlic contains compounds called sulfhydryl groups, which aid in the detoxification process by transporting mercury through the body, especially the kidneys, according to Dr. Klinghardt. (As long as you are not allergic to the toxic metal at the DNA level - see Allergie Immun Germany or www.allergie-immun.de (English) thread. If you are allergic to the metals in question, all bets are off. In this case, the immune system does not recognize the toxins and does not respond.

Take care.

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I'm seriously considering trying BioPure garlic. Maybe it's worth a try.
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seek, if you're going to do garlic capsules, BioPure is on top of the list. Organic and great quality too.

I'm hoping to be able to handle it this morning *after* I finish my meal as GiGi suggested.

Gary

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