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gatorade girl
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I was curious as to what it means. I am on IV rocephin, mepron, and zitromax for the "bugs". Thanks.

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It means you now how insufficient white blood cells to fight infection. It is a "low white blood cell count."

This can happen when on antibiotics.

My lyme doc put me on Transfer Factor when this happened to me. In 2 weeks, he retested my blood and the white cell count was back up to normal, so I didn't have to stop my antibiotic therapy. The Transfer Factor worked great.

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thanks. i will look that up.

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can antibiotics do this?

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Evidently, when we are on antibiotics for so long, our bodies can get the idea that they don't have to make white blood cells anymore. The antibiotics are fighting infection for us.

So, it is a possible side effect of taking antibiotics continuously.

But, it is easily remedied with the Transfer Factor or stopping antibiotics.

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TF - do you have any idea if children can take Transfer Factor? My son's white count is down. Any link you can give to info on this would be great.

Thanks.

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I think it also can be a sign of ehrlichia. Might be worth getting some testing, although the tests are not very accurate and can easily miss an infection.

Once you knock down one infection, often symptoms of another will surface. So it is possible that the ehrlichia is surfacing.

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some drugs can cause a low WBC. Here's a website to check: www.doublecheckmd.com

Mepron can cause a low WBC in 5% of the people who take it:http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=Mepron&sid=1907&eid=2237#sesearch

I did not check your other drugs...you can do that.

When I have a low WBC, my doctor will run a repeat CBC with a differential. (I'm having one tomorrow, for I have a low WBC presently. I think my current low WBC is due to the reactivation of EBV).

Best, Timaca

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I had low WBC count before any treatment, when I had lyme but not yet diagnosed.
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Aimee, I don't see why children would not be able to take advantage of Transfer Factor. The one I was given was made from bovine (cow) colostrum.

As you probably know, colostrum is the first "milk" a mother produces. It is very important for the newborn as it gives it the immunities from the mother's body. That is what transfer factor does also.

Here is a website for a particular brand made from bovine colostrum:

http://www.agelessway.org/4ltrfacl.html

This may be the brand my doc gave me. I am not sure.

I understand that at one time some cancer docs were giving their patients Transfer Factor to help them overcome the ravages of cancer therapies.

By the way, I got a low white blood cell count while on Bactrim DS. I had already treated lyme and bartonella. I was treating babesiosis when this happened to me. That was the last med I took. Then, my treatment was complete.

So, in my case, I did not have any more tick-borne diseases that happened to cause this.

I have been symptom-free now for the last 5 years. I am enjoying my life. And, it is the same life I had BEFORE lyme disease. Praise God!! I praise Him every day for this.

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Many, many things can cause low WBC.

To my knowledge lyme, erlichia, bartnoenlla and Babesea all have the capacity to lower WBC counts.

As said before, some meds cause low WBC counts. I have found that just lowering the dose of abx causes my WBC counts to go even lower, so I would be careful about stopping any medicne without first speaking the your MD.

virus's are also famous for lowering WBC counts. Aerobic exercise will temporarily lower certain WBC, which is why many of the lyme doctors tell you to avoid aerobic exercise until your are healed (they do strongly recommend anaerobic exercises though).

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I have low WBC too. I am now taking shark liver oil and Siberian ginseng to try and raise my WBC count, and I feel better since starting these, along with zinc. I haven't had another blood test though so I don't know if they're actually raising my WBC count, but shark liver oil and Siberian ginseng are both supposed to help with this.
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Well, I just had a repeat CBC with differential due to my low WBC and low platelets 2 weeks ago. The results are now normal. This supports my theory that the low counts 2 weeks ago were infection based since my EBV titers had spiked at that lab draw, and I had felt just awful.

I am way excited to discuss this with my doctors next week.

Best, Timaca

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I have followed my absolute lymphocyte count for several months while treating 1st for Lyme mainly
(doxy) then Bart zith,bactrim,flagyl, and now for Babs: zith bactrim artemisinin. I focus on lymphocytes because they make the antibodies. These cells have been slowly, steadily rising
throughout the last 10 months. My total WBC was higher at the beginning though (more phagocytes then). The CD 57 counts are a subclass of Lymphocytes and I am on limited budget so I am using total lymphocyte count as a proxy for CD 57 and for me it correllates well with my slow
mostly steady recovery.

Beachinit.

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