cactus
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I have been out of Lyme treatment for more than a year, but have remaining GI issues.
I would like to try oil of oregano to treat these... as I've heard that it can be effective for mild forms of my problem (I've had recurring C Diff and bacterial dysbiosis).
A recent bout with C Diff was treated with vancomycin - but I developed a bad reaction to it, so I'm a bit wary of vanco at the moment.
I am not terribly symptomatic right now - but feel that things are not quite normal.
Flagyl is a possibility, but I'd like to give something else a shot first, since I'm not overly symptomatic.
Has anyone here had experience with oil of oregano? What form did you take, and at what dose?
I will be adding Betaine HCL to the mix, to raise my stomach acid.
And - the other burning question... would oil of oregano be strong enough to cause a herx, in case I do have some lingering spirochetes?
Thanks for any advice or thoughts on this, Cactus
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I just started Oregacillin capsules, and they definitely made me herx. I've been under treatment for almost 5 years, and am much better, so I can tell when I'm herxing or not.
You might also consider adding essential lemon oil or orange oil to the mix. They both have strong antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal activity. another added benefit is that Lemon oil has very low toxicity, but I don't know about orange oil. If you mix a few drops of lemon oil (cold pressed only, & organic)to a little low fat sour cream, it will taste like lemon cream pudding,(sweetened w/your choice of sweetener).
My Dr. also suggested eucalyptus oil, but I think that's just for external use.
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- You can also add a drop of lemon or orange oil to nonfat Greek yogurt. Better yet, just mix in the ZEST, right from a fresh organic lemon, orange or lime. No need for fancy oils. It's in our food. -
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cactus
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Thanks so much, psano and Keebler.
I will add that in, too. Sounds delicious, anyway!
Just for reference - I have been using oil of oregano as a follow up treatment for my C Diff, and have had good results thus far.
Previously, I've had to do a 3 month taper of vanco, but this time I just went straight from the first month of vanco to oil of oregano and Betaine HCL.
Appears to be working, crossing fingers.
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canefan17
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What's in greek yogurt?
Any ingredient or nutritional lists?
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I did take oil of oregano when I was in between treatments a few years ago. I had read it was a natural abx, so I took capsules.
After 4 weeks of taking it, I was sick. I thought I had the flu that wouldn't stop. Then it hit me that I was having one of my old herxes again!
Yes, if I hadn't taken it and experienced it, I wouldn't have believed it. I haven't taken it since, and now back in treatment with abx from my llmd.
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Cactus- Have you been tested for H Pylori? The mainstream meme is that stomach problems are exacerbated by fatty food, and spicy food food for the most part. there is another scoool of thought that points mostly at gluten and high sugar diets as being the main problem. Not sure what your diet is like, but experimentation with elimination diets is a good approach. Slippery Elm and Marshmallow root have excellent reputations as does DGL Licorice. Betaine and some other enzymes also have excellent anecdotal reports, and I would also consider Aloe and apple cider vinegar.
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The only problem I see with adding lemon/orange oil to yogurt is that the antibacterial qualities of the lemon oil might be used up somewhat by killing off the bacteria in the yogurt. Sour cream may have also have lactobacilli, but probably not in as great a quantity, and that's not what you take sour cream for. Whereas if you think you're getting your probiotics taking the yogurt, you may not get as much as you thought by mixing it with lemon or orange oil.
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The author of The Body Ecology Diet recommends lemons to be squeezed in kefir. Since the idea of the diet is to repopulate the intestinal tract, I would guess it's okay with that bacteria.
Fermented foods might help your gut. I make sauerkraut with veggies. Our favorite is cabbage, carrot, onion, and garlic. I also love the jar I made with cabbage, carrot, onion, garlic, greens (kale and spinach), and jalapeno.
Kefir is excellent and contains many more bacteria than yogurt. You can get kefir grains at www.kefirlady.com
I passed some parasites with oregano oil. You can feel bad when they die off, so be expecting fatigue if you have any. Most likely that would only last a week.
Be sure you're getting enough fiber and are having regular bm's to move the toxins out.
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Keep in mind that lemon juice doesn't have the same antibacterial qualities as lemon oil. Lemon oil is distilled from the yellow part of lemon rind and contains volatile oils not found in the juice. You should only use cold pressed, organic lemon oil if you decided to try it.
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