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I'm on my fourth week of ceftin (they started me on this and not doxy because I'm already sunlight sensitive) and last week I began feeling just terrible but I didn't put it together with a herx. I thought I was just having a flare up -- everything was pretty wicked.
I called the doctor and the nurses told me I was having my first herx and when this happens I'm supposed to go off all the medicine and wait until the symptoms go away and then start slowly again.
Is this what you have to do?
Would this allow the bacteria to reproduce and run wilder in my system again? I don't know anything about this bacteria but I know that Candida can multiply quite easily when you stop treating it.
It seems strange that I'm having all these symptoms and am told not to take anything now.
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Keebler
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- Are you taking liver support such as Milk Thistle or NAC? Fish Oil and Magnesium? B-6? Turmeric? All those will help.
Pulsing is done frequently by many LLMD. It is often necessary to lay off abx to let the spirochetes & the cyst form sort of "relax" and then when hit again with Rx, the abx can be more effective. It's like fooling the spirochetes.
For the sake of your liver and kidneys you can go only so fast with treatment anyway. A herx is VERY hard on the liver and kidneys so it's not good to push a herx.
I'm not educated enough in matters of Rx to address the specifics of your Rx question. Others who are will be along to discuss that.
But I sure hope you are taking at least those supplements listed or comparable ones. A warm (not hot) bath in Epson Salts and Baking Soda can help. For about 20 minutes.
OLE ? And, although a herx can result from too high of a dose of Olive Leaf Extract (OLE), I wonder if a low to moderate dose of OLE might be a nice alternative to be on when you have to cut back on Rx. It's a good support supplement to help relieve many symptoms - it is helpful against lyme in many ways, also helps to conquer candida.
Cat's Claw? Regular cat's claw can also calm down many symptoms of a herx and it helps support the nerve fibers. Herb Pharm is a good brand of tincture. Rain-Tree herbs has a good capsule. -
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- You might want to see this current thread discussing Cycling and Pulsing:
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Thank you Keebler! I couldn't find this thread again until I figured out the search feature here. I posted something similar today because I couldn't locate this.
I'm off ceftin and went to zithromax for only a few days until I had my worst herx ever and they told me to just move onto flagyl. After the reaction I had to zithromax, I'm hoping flagyl is easier on me... otherwise, I'd rather go back on ceftin and work through that herx. It wasn't nearly as bad as the zithro.
Thank you for all the liver support ideas. No, I'm not doing even half of that. I'll get right on that... I know to start one thing at a time, though, to make sure my body can handle it.
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TN Kim - I would steer clear of Wal-Mart and GNC. I don't think their brands will be as good. Suggestion -- I get great prices at iherb.com. You may want to check them out. Good luck!
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Nellers78, if your LLMD is who I'm guessing, their philosophy is a bit different than others. I was always told to stop at every little herx. My first LLMD had this idea too. Didn't get me far, but it didn't hurt me much either long-term. I guess it's a personal call. I elected to try a different route.
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TN Kim - Don't stop meds during a herx unless those are your doc's instructions.
You can reduce symptoms in other ways. Lemon water is cheap and easy. Binders like chlorella, activated charcoal, apple pectin, zeolite or bentonite clay will mop up neurotoxins. Take away from other supps and antibiotics. You'll probably need more than the label suggests. You'll know when they are working because you will feel better!
Epsom salt baths are great. Some add hydrogen peroxide and grated ginger. Turn yourself into a tea!
Search the term "detox" and you'll find lots of suggestions for managing a herx.
As for supplements, they are not worth ending up in the poor house. Many affordable high-quality supps are available online.
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My doctor doesn't want you to herx because, in his experience, if you push yourself through a bad herx you can do more harm than good. He is really well known and has a great track record, so I'm going with what he wants. I tell you, though, I don't know how we'll find something that doesn't cause me to herx. I'm going to do my best to detox so that, maybe, my herx won't be so bad that it is bad on my body.
Are activated charcoal hard on your, or cause any ill effects, like a herx? I'd like to do something like that but my body is so sensitive I'm a bit leery.
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