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Is this typical to not eat much but still gain weight on the antibiotics. I have been on them for 6 weeks, only eat according to protocol, and have gained weight and felt no improvement. Frustrating!
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Keebler
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- It's the lyme. Weight gain is very common. Once infection has been managed, weight usually normalizes.
Yes, some abx seem to contribute to weight gain but some infections are notorious for doing that all on their own.
Do not cut back on the food your body needs, dieting is not good at this time. Just give your body the nutrients it needs, moderate non-aerobic exercise as best you can.
Much of the weight gain is from inflammation, also some from inflammation from candida (be sure Probiotics are always on board). Some due to the adrenal stress, so adrenal support, good sleep, etc. will also help.
Many good links and more explanation here - the most important is the "Potbelly" book as it explains that lyme can cause problems with insulin -- stemming from high cortisol from stress.
Adrenal links offer you suggestions for curtailing that.
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I've been on ceftriaxone for 6 months and am getting a pot belly. I have to drink Kefir to fend off yeast and I think that is what is making me gain weight.
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In addition to the cortisol issue that Keebler mentions, the toxins from die-off create a cascade of hormonal changes that can cause significant weight gain.
Leptin resistence is a very big issue along with insulin resistance and other hormonal changes. Non-pitting edema can also be part of the picture as a result of bartonella or mycoplasma.
from: The Biotoxin and Neurotoxin Pathway http://www.biotoxin.info/biochemistry Stage 2: Cytokine Effects The activated fat cells start to produce more leptin, which leads to weight gain that is unresponsive to diet or exercise.
Remember that the fat cells are also pumping out cytokines, this overload starts to block or damage the leptin receptors in the hypothalamus.
quote:Originally posted by TerryK: In addition to the cortisol issue that Keebler mentions, the toxins from die-off create a cascade of hormonal changes that can cause significant weight gain.
Leptin resistence is a very big issue along with insulin resistance and other hormonal changes. Non-pitting edema can also be part of the picture as a result of bartonella or mycoplasma.
from: The Biotoxin and Neurotoxin Pathway http://www.biotoxin.info/biochemistry Stage 2: Cytokine Effects The activated fat cells start to produce more leptin, which leads to weight gain that is unresponsive to diet or exercise.
Remember that the fat cells are also pumping out cytokines, this overload starts to block or damage the leptin receptors in the hypothalamus.
Sorry alot of medical termanology confuses me. What can be done to reverse this and prevent or correct?
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- Q: What can be done to reverse this and prevent or correct?
It is rather involved and all that is explained in the links. Just take one by one.
Main key: TREAT INFECTION(S)
Main support keys: ADRENAL SUPPORT, LIVER SUPPORT, GOOD SLEEP & GOOD NUTRITION.
And patience. Reversal may not come until lyme/TBD is in remission so just do the best you can with good treatment and kind self-talk along the way. -
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Hi kcmorton, you're not alone, I gained about 20-25 pounds and can't lose any of it to this day.
I'm still working on it, don't give up!
Steve
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Interesting - I lost weight on treatment. Everybody is so unique. Keep a record of what you are eating - sometimes we don't even realize how much we are snacking of how big our portions are. We don't eat out anymore and that has helped too. It is much easier to control portions at home. Hang in there!
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quote:Originally posted by Keebler: - Q: What can be done to reverse this and prevent or correct?
It is rather involved and all that is explained in the links. Just take one by one.
Main key: TREAT INFECTION(S)
Main support keys: ADRENAL SUPPORT, LIVER SUPPORT, GOOD SLEEP & GOOD NUTRITION.
And patience. Reversal may not come until lyme/TBD is in remission so just do the best you can with good treatment and kind self-talk along the way. -
Haveing serious hard time readin or looking at computers right now, ( severe migranes)
quickly what is a good adrenal support ? if you know off hand?
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Keebler
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- As your vision is causing you so much trouble (and migraine), it is best if your LLMD advises you. The migraine should be addressed first.
Are you eating enough? Getting enough vegetables ?
* MAGNESIUM -- If there were to be one key supplement right now, I would suggest magnesium.
* CURCUMIN - or TURMERIC -- If you do not have gallbladder stress, curcumin (turmeric extract) would also be excellent. If you do have gallbladder stress, stick to lower dose of the less strong turmeric.
You might find a friend to read some of the articles to you but it is most important to communicate with your LLMD about a total plan of action.
Hopefully, a friend can read all this and work with you to make a list of questions for your LLMD. If you do not have gallbladder stress, turmeric would also be excellent. -
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I was thinking it is the antibiotics too. I have been sick 9 years and didn't start gaining any weight until being on antibiotics.
I eat a strict diet so I know it isn't food related. I also seem to be ok as far as candida goes so far (knock on wood).
I am sure adrenal issues etc aren't helping either but I have been wondering about the antibiotics causing weight gain.
It is just 10 pounds at this point but it doesn't seem to be stopping and I definitely have a pot belly going on.
I think I will work on the adrenals. That could be helpful for others as well. I still think that the abx could have something to do with this though.
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I had gained some weight during full time abx tx. I have been the same weight my entire adult life and then gained about 5-7 lbs. while on Biaxin.
DId not change a single thing and as a matter of fact changed my diet for the better.
For me it was related to yeast. I learned that yeast can cause water retention. Once I treated the yeast and began pulsing my meds the weight dropped in about a week or two and has not come back.
If you are not doing so already you might want to adress any possible yeast issues. TG
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I also have the opposite problem got on the scale this morning and lost another pound...not good as I am already too thin. I eat more then enough and don't know why my body isn't absorbing it. i'm not sure which is more of a problem but I hope you are feeling better soon.
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