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I am new here this is my first post, I copy and paste a brief review of my journey from a medical statement I made to help docs see what I been living with, in 1994 I applied for disibility based on CFS did not get it till 2001, and now in 2006 I find I have Lyme and it is the causitive factor of the CFS.
I was bitten by 3 to 5 ticks a year in the colorado mountins from 1966 to 1980, that is when I was infected as that is when all the heath problems started.
My Exhaustion put into Percent of available energy When I had full health was at 100% usable energy (prior to 1985), I would normally get up at 7am and go to bed at 10pm 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours to use in a day.And every hour a joy!
Good day (remember a good day for me is 2 to 5 hours long, and a struggle for every hour) is apx 20 to 30% of normal, going to bed at 11 to 12 pm sleeping till noon and unrested upon waking (I felt like I had already put in a long and hard work day upon getting up) thus it took all my push to get up ( usually 1 hour to become alert enough to try to function) and then go for a few hours, by 5:30 to 6pm was too tired to hold my head up, and would lye down and not be able to sleep either, just rest, by 11 to 12pm ( 2 or 3 times a week I toss and turn unable to fall asleep till 2 or 3 am.). This was a good day, 20 to 30% usable energy.
Bad day I would not be able to wake up enough to think straight or gather enough energy to do anything, have tried to do vacuuming and would have to stop and rest before completing one room., or drive to the coffee shop only to pass it by several blocks, turn around go back and pass it again, not making the turn till the 3rd or 4th try, then go home and back to bed, many of these days I never even left home, just stayed in bed. This is a bad day, 0 to 10% usable energy. This is the way it has been since Aug 2003 when I got west nile virus. With only 1 or 2 good days a month.
A Brief Review of My severe Exhaustion Over The Years 1979- 1980 for a few months I remember being very tiered and having a hard time functioning. 1986 - 1987 was bedridden for 1 year mostly bad days ( started with flu that never went away) 1987 - 1993 was back forth 3 to 4 good days (consisting of 3 to 4 hrs functioning tired but can push) a week the rest bad. 1994 - 1996 mostly bad days with very few good days, 5 or more weeks at a time all bad days. (Started with flu like symptoms) 1997 - 2003 was back forth 3 to 4 good days (consisting of 3 to 4 hrs functioning tired but can push) a week the rest bad (pneumonia 2002 3 months) 2003 - 2006 Got west Nile Virus in Aug 2003 and have never recovered, have had mostly bad days since (longest & worst down time yet), with only a few good afternoons in each month, LYME diagnosed 5-05-06
I have 95 percent of the lyme symptoms, did a western blot for lyme & coinfections lyme was neg but I did have 4 bands test positive showing that something was going on with lyme, I also tested a certain positive for ehrlichia.
Some info right on Igenex test results was
"very rare to have ehrlichia in US with out LYME"
"a negitive does not rule out LYME Must use clinical Diagnoses"
I have started a teatment of doxy and cholestyramine, the cholestyramine is to bind up and remove bacterial die off and other toxins.
I have been herxing but was doing so poorly before treatment started that it dont seam that bad, but I have had a huge increase in pain, and after 2 weeks the pain is starting to go down.
I know that because of having it for so long I may not fully recover, but if I could get half my energy back I would be very happy. Later Bruce
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Well I'm relatively new to lymnet,too-about a month. Very grateful that my journey to a correct diagnosis was not nearly as long.
I am fortunate to live in a metro area with an LLMD within half hour drive-actually within 15 minute drive but sometimes I get lost.
I was also fortunate that my bloodwork came back in neon lights clearly positive. Let the treatment begin!!!!!!
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Welcome Bruce. Breaking this up so that those of us who have had lyme for decades are able to read/comprehend. Just hit the enter button more and double space each paragraph for us neuro lymies. We thank you!
quote:Originally posted by Bruceallan:
I am new here this is my first post, I copy and paste a brief review of my journey from a medical statement I made to help docs see what I been living with,
in 1994 I applied for disibility based on CFS did not get it till 2001 , and now in 2006 I find I have Lyme and it is the causitive factor of the CFS.
I was bitten by 3 to 5 ticks a year in the colorado mountins from 1966 to 1980, that is when I was infected as that is when all the heath problems started.
My Exhaustion put into Percent of available energy When I had full health was at 100% usable energy (prior to 1985), I would normally get up at 7am and go to bed at 10pm 9 hours of sleep and 15 hours to use in a day.And every hour a joy!
Good day (remember a good day for me is 2 to 5 hours long, and a struggle for every hour) is apx 20 to 30% of normal,
going to bed at 11 to 12 pm sleeping till noon and unrested upon waking (I felt like I had already put in a long and hard work day upon getting up) thus it took all my push to get up ( usually 1 hour to become alert enough to try to function)
and then go for a few hours, by 5:30 to 6pm was too tired to hold my head up, and would lye down and not be able to sleep either, just rest, by 11 to 12pm ( 2 or 3 times a week I toss and turn unable to fall asleep till 2 or 3 am.). This was a good day, 20 to 30% usable energy.
Bad day = I would not be able to wake up enough to think straight or gather enough energy to do anything,
have tried to do vacuuming and would have to stop and rest before completing one room.,
or drive to the coffee shop only to pass it by several blocks, turn around go back and pass it again, not making the turn till the 3rd or 4th try, then go home and back to bed, many of these days I never even left home, just stayed in bed.
This is a bad day, 0 to 10% usable energy. This is the way it has been since Aug 2003 when I got WEST NILE VIRUS. With only 1 or 2 good days a month.
A Brief Review of My severe Exhaustion Over The Years
1979- 1980 for a few months I remember being very tiered and having a hard time functioning.
1986 - 1987 was bedridden for 1 year mostly bad days ( started with flu that never went away)
1987 - 1993 was back forth 3 to 4 good days (consisting of 3 to 4 hrs functioning tired but can push) a week the rest bad.
1994 - 1996 mostly bad days with very few good days, 5 or more weeks at a time all bad days. (Started with flu like symptoms)
1997 - 2003 was back forth 3 to 4 good days (consisting of 3 to 4 hrs functioning tired but can push) a week the rest bad (pneumonia 2002 3 months)
2003 - 2006 Got west Nile Virus in Aug 2003 and have never recovered, have had mostly bad days since (longest & worst down time yet), with only a few good afternoons in each month,
LYME diagnosed 5-05-06
I have 95 percent of the lyme symptoms, did a western blot for lyme & coinfections lyme was neg but I did have 4 bands test positive showing that something was going on with lyme, I also tested a certain positive for ehrlichia.
Some info right on Igenex test results was "very rare to have ehrlichia in US with out LYME "
"a negitive does not rule out LYME Must use clinical Diagnoses"
I have started a teatment of doxy and cholestyramine, the cholestyramine is to bind up and remove bacterial die off and other toxins.
I have been herxing but was doing so poorly before treatment started that it dont seam that bad, but I have had a huge increase in pain, and after 2 weeks the pain is starting to go down.
I know that because of having it for so long I may not fully recover, but if I could get half my energy back I would be very happy. Later Bruce
Hi Bruce; I gave you a bunch of newbie links on your other post. Sorry to read you have had WEST NILE VIRUS too and now a LYME DIAGNOSIS! Others will be along to welcome and support you.
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Dear Bruce,
Wow. I don't even know what to say to you about the intense suffering that you have endured.
I am really sorry. But so glad to hear you finally have your correct diagnosis! I have seen several folks here posting with celebration their diagnosis.
It does give hope.
There are a number of folks who have had lyme for many years whom are pretty close to fully recovered.
Are you seeing a Dr. who is well-versed with lyme? Not to criticize your current treatment...My experience has been that getting to a TOP lyme doctor is invaluable. Especially if you have had lyme or erichulosis for so long.
Betty G.-I am breaking up my posts for nuero lymies in my sleep! and all my pm's just to be safe!
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I will be more mindfull of spacing, I should have realized that as I too have a tought time reading.
I currently have no funds/no energy to travel.
I was tested for lyme 10 years ago (titer) was neg, this waas before I knew anything bout Lyme.
2 years ago a friend of my wifes ask if I could have Lyme, gave me some info, which I layed aside as I was neg.
Then in Aug 2005 I had a testical pain which also shot into my low back that was so sever
I could not walk, barly got in to the doc, he put me on cipro. (abx) 500mg twice a day 10 days
3 days off severe pain came back repeated with a 14 day round,
The next 2 months I felt much better, and recalled the year I had pnumonia (bacterial)after I got
over it was the best I had felt in years, I had also had high dose abx to get over the pnewmo
I remember that abx was a treatment for lyme, so I ask my PA to keep me on abx I ask for doxcy he
agreed to 100 mg long term, but said it was immpossible for me to have lyme
Feb 06 with many symtoms returning I went back to my PA went back on cipero 500mg twice a day,
meantime I have printed out Lyme info 2" thick from net surfing, so I ask him for a western blot
He reffured me to a clinci that takes medicare, I call ask for an infectious disease doc as I want a set of Western Blots done.
The day I keep my appointment the young Doc was a real jerk and flat out refused to order the blots,
she wanted to treat me for CFS and Abuse, I fired her and walked out without paying a dime.
I had a 3 page history and a lyme symptom check list I had filled out, she either didnt look at them of ignored them.
so back on the internet I go, with Igenex being the lab of choice by many, I call them...
They take medicare, they ship a WB blood kit right to my house, and say just make sure you enclose a copy of your medicare card front & Back.
I get the kit wow a lot of tests to run, can this be simplified? I have no funds of my own as 20 years disabled.
so back on the internet....
I find a Lyme Doc who acctually takes some time to point me in the right direction, suggesting
2 panels to do WB panel and a coinfection Panel. which was about 20% of the tests that could have been run.
My PA was very willing to pull the blood and send off to Igenex, he still thinks I cant have Lyme, but working with me (he is very open minded)
I check with the Doc I been emailing with to see If I owe anything, nope nada, I offered to send
him a gift, I explained that I do some small wood working to keep my self sain, he gave me his address.
I sent him a couple of small things I made, when he got them he sent me 2 emails of thanks
in the second email he said he wanted to see a copy of my labs when they came in, and gave me his fax
when I call Igenex to ask that a Lyme specialist in this state get a copy of my labs, they said his name before I did, this built my confidence up a little more.
Hes the one that notice 4 active bands in the lyme area, not enought for a positive, but shows that somthing is going on.
The ehrlickia was a certain positive, and he mentioned was very rare to have it with out Lyme
He had me print off a symptom check list he emailed me. I filled out and faxed it back to him
He said with my symptoms being over the top for lyme & the test results that he would treat for lyme.
He emailed me a 36 page booklet advance treatment In Lyme by Doc J.B.
He knows my lack of funds, but at this point I offer to send $25 to $50 a month for his help, just send me a bill, nope wont do it!
WoW so I send him a much nicer gift that I had made, He loved it too.
I go back to my PA he thought the tests were neg, but was willing to read them again and even
offered me a copy of the results before I could ask for a copy, I showed him the email from the Lyme doc, and the 36 page booklet he sent,
I explaind that I knew He would need to read the info, so could I come back in a week, and I hope to start some treatment.
He only read the email and said we can start today, took blood for a liver test as a
baseline. and got me started on 600mg doxy a day along with the chloretimine.
I hope this will improve my health enought where I can travel, am planning garage sale to raise
funds, Found the Lyme Doc within 14 hours of me I might be able to make it to him if I can get to feeling better
My E doc checks in on me every couple of weeks to see how I am doing, I am thinking of him more as a friend than a doc.
I will not be able to reveal his name or the state he lives in as I know that even thought he
saw my tests and med history and symptom list that this could be a sticky situation.
I am very grateful to this Fine Doc and My Open Minded PA and hope to be on the road to recovery.
No bad news yet, but I know my PA could be stoped by his supervising doc any time, I have a year of scripts and hope to get to a LL Doc as soon as I can.
Sorry for the long reply, I just needed to share my good fortune.
and all this from a 2 finger typer Later bruce
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soooo many stories like this...soooo sad. and many we try to help listen to the mainstream docs and end up like this...such a big problem...we can all be glad tincup and company are out there screaming from the housetops...but so many will go down before the truth is really heard...my kids are going down...and friends...and nothing i can do. bummer. but i had a good paddle today. guess the universe gives us what we can deal with...mostly...i had a cousin committ suicide over lyme...double bummer.
THANKS AGAIN TIN FOR EVERYTHING.
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I have had a few ask about my lyme and so am posting here to bump it to the top.
So far I have had the best results with the colonix cleanse, has reduced pain and brought back some energy.
When a persons intestinal track is full of crud that has been in you for years it can be putting toxins into your system and allowing any health problems you have to take over.
My stool has been flat for the last 10 years, I have been on this colon cleasne for just 30 days and have passed over 20 feet of mucoide plaque 1" to 2" in diameter.
My stool is round again, a fullness i have had in my left side below the ribs (previously diagnosed as irritable bowl/diverticulites)
Is 80% gone now I barly notice it, I really am greatfull for the fast results, some of the testimonials on dr naturas site
mention that some dont start passing anything strange until the 3rd or 4th week and some not untill they are in the 2con 30 day use,
But all notice easyer bowl movment fairly quickly, within the first couple weeks.
If you try this program drink lots of water!
Later Bruce
Edited to include: as soon as I finish the 3rd month of the colonix programm I plan on doing a full 60 days of abx, as I know that since
I have had lyme for over 20 years the bacteria are deeply imbedded in many systems in my body and may take time to kill them all,
I have been doeing with 3 different brands of probotics while on the cleanse.
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Bruce, a 2-finger typist! WAY to go! You're doing wonderful at typing your post.
Glad you are making some progress; glad you were able to share your wood-working talents with the dr. helping you out! Whenever he looks at it now, he'll think of you & why he was given this. Wishing you the best of luck with your treatment.
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Cool story, Bruce! I enjoyed reading it. Makes a person MAD, but thanks for sharing your experience!
I've had Lyme for most of my life...and I'm OLD.... but I have my life back. I can only hope and pray that you will get yours back too!
I think you'll need more than 60 days worth of abx, though!!
Hang in there and reach out to others to help them too. You'll get where you're wanting to be!!
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Bruce, Dont believe Tutu when she says she is old. That is a real old story on her part.
I met the wonderul kind lady once(oops twice) and she wasnt a day over 39 and probably closer to 29.(Was once mistaken for a rightful college co-ed, lately)
And beatiful as a picture!!! I know here mangosteen is working overtime, she doesnt look sick at all!!
My vote is to nominate her for 'Mrs America'. I bet her wonderful and talented husband would agree!!!
Now I am 156 years old myself(you are as old as you feel),,, so I know old,,, and she isnt it!!!
Just had to set the record straight because of being --just don--!!!
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I know I will be on and off them for the next year or two, but I had just started and had to quit for the cleanse,
and it is highly recomended to stay on them 60 days the first time (oral doxy 600mg a day) I was tolerating it well untill I added the
colonix cleanse, got severe nausa several hours so I decided to interupt the abx, so I will go back on them for the full 60 days,
then go off 30 days, while off I will be eating lots of plain yogert & acidopholis (I am doing this while on the abx too)
and then go back on abx 30 days, off 30 days and keep rotating ( the life cycle of the different lyme & coinfections is guessed by many to be 30 days...
and so the time off allows the bacteria time to come out of the hiding places in our bodies, thinking it is safe to multiply again,
and getting probotics back in our system at the same time, then 30 days on abx to kill the suckers that came out!!!!
and then another 30 days off abx to lure more of the little burgers out!
well I guess I am up to 4 fingers am using 2 on each hand Later Bruce
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Bruce, You certainly have had your 'share' of misery and then some. Hope it all turns around and gets better for you in a hurry.
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Thanks for the kind words just don, part of what has kept me going is knowing that many have had the same struggle and many also have illness's that are worse,
It is our inner strenght that helps us keep going, and mine comes from a life time of faith in our creator and the future He has in store for us
I have had my lows inspite of this, and have had to fight sucicidal thinking in recent years.
The colon cleanse by dr natura is a turning point for me, I know it has been responsible for a slight energy increase and normalizing my sleep,
as I have been in communication with several ill people who also are taking it and they too are having very simular experiances to mine.
so I would strongly encourage any with lyme or any health problems to guve this product a try! Sincerly Bruce
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