daystar1952
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Several years ago the Plum Island maintenance and security workers were on strike. A friend took the ferry over to the tip of Long Island for the day. She ran into these Plum Island employees striking. She got to talking with them while she waited for the return ferry and got one of the worker's email address.
She sent me the email and I wrote to this person, asking if they knew anything about Lyme disease being studied on the island. The response from this person is below and the person asked to remain anonymous. He didn't have too much info regarding lyme but what he wrote is still interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have worked there at least 14 years. We did have two different labs once. I've only worked in one mostly. Unfortunately I didn't know what they did in 257.... I was working in 101. As far as lyme I know they had a special "Tick" lab but it was closed down by the time I started working there. I saw a lot of dead ticks, but what they where working on I don't know. Some doctors here will talk about their work and what they are doing and some wont.
I do know that what they say in the paper about not working on things that affect people is bull ****. If the doctors and animal workers are in moon suits, positive pressure suits, and I can't go into the room without it then something is in that room that I shouldn't be breathing and has to affect humans.
I know once they worked on something from China that killed little girls... just girls not boys... but only before puberty, which I had a fit about because I had two girls who where very young. I cant tell you anything, because I don't know about the things you are looking for. Most of the doctors are working on foot and mouth, fmd, West Nile. What you say is possible, I myself don't know. You could ask DR Peter Mason he lives in Conn. He is moving to Texas soon. He is going to one of the big university down there, and taking about four doctors with him.
He was in charge of one of the hoof and mouth sections, and he was very cool if you get my drift. Please don't use my name I still need my job. I cant think of anyone else that would say anything. I'm sorry I couldn't help you more but I just don't know
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That is extremely interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder if we will ever know the truth about this work.
You might want to edit out the doctor's name in the third paragraph, in case you or someone wants to follow-up.
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Wow, very very interesting for sure. And scary!
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What he says about the agent from China, in light of what we knew already about the country's human rights abuses, would be quite understandable in terms of what Sparkle7, myself, and some others have said about the agenda of the power elite.
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I have a friend who's a photographer. Back in the 1980's he got an assignment to take photos of the monkeys on Plum Island.
Why would there be monkeys living on Plum Island? It's close to Long Island in NY. They wouldn't be living there naturally.
A Discussion with Dr. William (Dr. Bill) Deagle, MD on The New Technology-Driven Diseases - depleted uranium, electromagnetic force fields, bioweapons, Morgellon's Disease, and deadly vaccines. Transcript from the 7-22-08, Gary Null Show
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Gary Null: ``Let us talk about bio-weapons now.''
Dr. Bill: ``Well, since the Operation Bioshield after 9-11 they've proliferated from a little over a dozen ah, special facilities that had DLC or Bio-64 Certification which is negative pressure facility proper containment.
They've proliferated to many university labs that are in the center of cities, ah, many commercial or ah, what we call drug companies that are, ah, because of the new laws are allowed to become vaccine companies.
Ah, they're making vaccinations against these potential bioweapons. Ah, they've had, as you've mentioned, they've had 347 accidents ah, just in BSL-4 facilities in America.
Many times couriers or breaking security of ah, breaking of containment ah, because they don't have BSL-4 proper facilities. And ah, for example, in Katrina, when they had the Katrina, ah, Hurricane strike, they, all they did was, basically put a chain lock on the external chain fence around the BSL-4 facility ah, in New Orleans.
So, they really are extremely sloppy. They send things through couriers and don't follow proper containment or chain of custody. Ah, and ah, these are not being handled properly. And they're highly populated centers.
And we know that many of the bio-weapons, including ah, the Lyme disease is a BSL-5 facility from ah, Plum Island off of Long Island, New York.
We know that many of the other bugs like microplasma fermentas incognito was Doctor Garth Nicholson. Ah, there's a contaminant that was in the vaccine and did come back with the vets and was also was exposed to the prisoners and infected secondarily, prison guards and their families in towns across America.
Ah, we know that we, we received an exchange of three years ago from the Russian bio-weapons facility. And we have, therefore, proliferated the amount of ah, new vaccines and new biological experiments we're doing.
And with these accidents something inevitably is going to get out of the laboratory just because of incompetence and stupidity.
So, ah, it's very concerning me here in the Porton Down facility, ah, North of England, ah, losing containment and having a, a breakout of Hoof and Mouth disease which we know because the facility there was a leak because the air wasn't properly, you know, circulated air-contained system.
So, ah, it's a, it's a combination of the Keystone Cops playing ah, biological-weapons research. And it's very dangerous.''
Gary Null: ``Alright, let's go to weaponization of deadly vaccines and viruses including the Avian Flu, for one, where they're trying to, ah, during the House of Lords in England is trying to scare the public into demanding mass ah, Avian Flu vaccine.
And yet, we have seen no evidence that there will be a world-wide pandemic. In fact, more people are killed by car accidents in one small country than all the deaths from Avian flu in the last ten years. And it's...''
Dr. Bill ``Exactly.''
Gary Null: ``So, why should we be putting a vaccine into our body that can easily be weaponized?
Dr. Bill: ``Exactly, and, if fact, I agree with you one hundred percent. Ah, there's evidence that they actually vaccinated in 1918 that the vaccine originated, that the, ah, flu of 1918 originated, was not an avian flu.
It was a human pig hybrid. Ah, and that it was augmented, that the people, quote, who were vaccinated were the ones that became sick.
So it may well have originated with people who were vaccinated. I agree that that is very, very probable. If you look at the gene sequences of the H-genes of the H5NN2 Avian flu, it can recombine with each of the E-702 3N2, H-3N2, and other viruses that are quote human or can infect humans and pigs.
Ah, these are by recombination where their synapses or the genes are exchanged. So, the idea that they mutate is just... There's no support to suggest that mutation is a primary process, although it may occur very rarely.
The primary process is just simply, the virus moves to an area, co-infects a host like a bird, or a pig, or a human being, and then swaps DNA, including the receptor binding domain, which is five genes that allows it to attach to human cells and infect them.
Ah, all they have to do now is acquire a couple amino acids on that receptor binding gene and then it will become quote, ah, able to form large clusters and to go pandemic.
But that's not an easy process because you have to co-infect a, probably a pig or human host and then have the virus specifically swap the gene combinations in order to create that.
Ah, the problem is that no one knows what the future virus sequence will be, if there is a pandemic. So, when they talk of creating a vaccine, it's, it's a, a fairy tale.
And if they talk about force vaccinating, you can be certain there's grave danger that the vaccination process itself will release a fully weaponized virus.
So, ah, I got the information from H. Aline Zirck in 1997, ah, that was smuggled out of the World Health Organization. And they were actually building the weaponized Avian Flu gene fragments using a bio-engine.
And the template of the 1918 flu using exhumed bodies from miners in ah, British Columbia and Alaska. They were able to take bodies out of the permafrost and then build the gene sequences.
So, if you look at the lethal genes that are now sequenced in the 1918 flu and the Hertz strains of H5N1 and there is around twelve strains.
Two of them are potentials that could become, infect humans out of the both, ah, six are high pathogenic and six low-path flu.
Ah, the gene sequences show very clearly, just like the TV series Lost, that the exact, ah, lethal genes are present, including some additional ones like the deletion of three amino acids like on the SN-, ah, 1 gene that bypasses interleukine-4, the alarm system of the immune system.
So, it can grow in any tissue because of the poly-basic amino acid on the cleavage site, which means, like a regular flu can only grow in respiratory mucosa, this can grow in brain cells, cardiac cells, bone marrow.
And so, you may not cough even once. You may pick up the Avian flu, you can incubate it in eight days, spike a fever, forty-five minutes later have a seizure, and drop dead.
So, it can cause a hemorrhagic diasis which is similar to a process called DIC, or disseminated intravascular coagulopathy. So you can bleed to death.
Ah, it is like an Ebola on steroids. And it has a long incubation period. So, thermal scanners in airports are useless. Ah, any attempt to hold, create a flu vaccine is useless.
It's now Amantadine, ah, and Tamiflu resistant, ah, to the potential strains that make them work. Ah, it's my opinion that ah, they were playing around with the Avian flu for years.
Ah, and it actually got out into the wild animals. And by itself can recombine and create a pandemic at a future date. We don't know when that will be.
But, I agree that the gravest danger is that they will try to force vaccines on the populations and actually create the pandemic by putting a, ah, strains of virus that will recombine in individuals.''
Gary Null: ``OK, that, that is speculative. We can't prove it. We have no evidence of it. So ''
Dr. Bill: ``Ah, which one?'' Proof that the, ah, the vaccines? Well, the vaccines could potentially carry a live, attenuated virus.''
Gary Null: ``Well that's true but ...''
Dr. Bill: carrier the real flu and then the recombination is the perfect way to create a recombinant strain that will have the receptor binding on it.''
Gary Null: ``OK, but there is a difference between a casual and a causal relationship and until such time that I have absolute proof that there is a group of individuals that with malice and forethought that created a vaccine with the intent of infecting populations...''
Dr. Bill: ``Oh, I'm not saying they have to have an intent. They can just give the vaccine...''
Gary Null: ``Oh, well, you can have an accident. Look, we have absolute, irrefutable proof from the developer of the most vaccines in American, if not in world history.
Dr. Bill: ``Right.''
Gary Null: ``This is a man who is in .... Have you seen my film Vaccine Nation?''
Dr. Bill: ``Yes.''
Gary Null: ``OK, the director's cut?''
Dr. Bill: ``Ah, yes, I believe, yah.''
Gary Null: ``OK, well, that's the latest one that we have. In there, the developer of twelve vaccines, including the influenza vaccine, the hepatitis vaccine, the measles vaccine, just before he died, ah, a Professor from the University of Toronto ...''
Dr. Bill: ``Right.''
Gary Null: ``... filmed him. He invited us. During this interview he said, on the record, for the first time, that every single vaccine that he knew of was infected with stealth viruses, including the SV-40, Simian Virus-40.''
Dr. Bill: ``Of course it was. And, in fact, I've seen the, ah, video clips of Doctor Jonas Salk who stated the same thing about the SV-40.''
Gary Null: ``OK, it was, it was Sabin, whose original vaccine was infected. And he met with Sabin because Sabin's vaccine, ah, the polio vaccine, was created by Merck.
And this is the man who worked on it. And they were friends. And when he, when he said in the interview was that, ah, that `I got some bad news, you know, we took some of the virus out and it was, it was SV-40, stealth viruses.
And this, when injected into hamsters cause cancer.' Sabin was very angry and asked what they should do about it. And they just decided to cover it up.
Now, later, it would come out through the Freedom of Information Act that rare cancers were occurring in people who had taken that vaccine, the polio vaccine.
And the government acknowledged that it covered up. The CDC acknowledged that it covered up.
The very same CDC that allowed five hundred and, approximately five hundred African-American men and women to be infected with Syphilis and chose to watch them over a forty year period.''
Dr Bill: ``Gary, you're talking about Tuskegee, right?''
Gary Null: ``Yah, the Tuskegee Experiment.''
Dr Bill: ``Yah, I took care of people who actually were still alive in Tuskegee, in Georgia. I took care of them.''
Gary Null: ``Well, you know that Syphilis, the spirochetes from Syphilis can actually be transmitted in sweat.
So that meant that if you kiss someone, that if you shook their hand you could actually get syphilis.
Now just imagine how many people in forty years are infecting other people. You could have millions of Americans have Syphilis.
And then, if they have syphilis through this form, and pass it on, it's congenital. You would never be able to test and find it.
Ah, yet it could be harboring itself in the central nervous system, in the eye, and the brain. So, these are the same people who have been overseeing our vaccine program.''
Dr Bill: ``Exactly.''
Gary Null: ``There's a difference between not trusting because they are of low moral, low character, no ethics. That's been proven by what they have done.
But here's another thing. Glaxo-Smith-Kline continues to vaccinate in a trial even though twelve babies died.
Let me quote this. It says, quote, `According to an article in Trading Markets dot com at least a dozen babies have died in a pneumonia vaccine trial conducted by Glaxo-Smith-Kline in Argentina.
The Argentine Federation of Health Professionals asserts that children of poor families are being used for the trials and parents are bullied into signing consent forms.
The trials are still continuing even though at least twelve infants have already died. Ah, the group maintains that there is no state control and that there are no ethical requirements.
This doesn't come as any surprise to anyone who knows how' these kids, ah, `these kinds of human trials usually occur.
Generally speaking, vaccine trials are conducted in third world countries on poor people who often feel trapped into participating in human health experiments in order to receive medical care or other necessities.
One doesn't find these kinds of experiments going on in places like the United States or Europe where names and faces of victims would surely get out into the media and cause a big stir.
Instead, the infants of impoverished people who often can't even read of write are used in the trials. Apparently the lead investigator of the trial didn't think it was any big concern that twelve babies have already died since the deaths from respiratory disease caused by the Pneumococcal bacteria kill even more people.
Of course, there is no comfort to the poor mothers whose babies are sacrificed for the monetary gains of the pharmaceutical giant.'
And I might mention that, that all we had to do is look at the film, The Constant Gardener, starring Ralph Finnes.
Dr Bill: ``Oh yes. One of the...''
Gary Null: ``While the story is fictional, ah, the viewer is better able to get a better feel for how drug vaccine trials are conducted.
And ah, it was actually, ah, when I was watching the film, I thought it was relatively straight forward. So, now we're supposed to believe that if the government tells us we need a vaccine, to roll up our shirts.
And I'm saying, I just finished the most comprehensive film along with Mannette Loudon, our executive producer on this. And we spent seven years on this.
Dr Bill: ``I know you did an amazing amount of research on this that shows that they're either incompetent or unethical.''
Gary Null: ``Yah, well, they're both, they are both. If, if you want to see some scientists who, who really haven't got it right, look at their rationale for their, their, ah, the science ah, vaccination. And now they're including more and more. And they're trying to get it mandated. For example,''
Dr Bill: ``The mandate. Ah, these mandates, it's not just the incompetence, now they're combining.... I just got a report last week of a vaccine for children with seven vaccines in it.
And their plan next year the American Academy of Pediatrics is to have twenty-seven vaccines in the first day of life which according to other experts like Doctor Russell Blalock with the induction ah, of inflammatory markers in the brain.
They're already putting markers in the brains on fire for years, causing permanent brain damage, increasing the rates of all these agivents and viral...''
Gary Null: ``Well, we, the Academy of Pediatrics is a sellout organization. No one should respect them. These are the, these are the lowest of the low in medicine.
These are lower that an ambulance chasing physician. And I believe they should be personally held responsible for crimes against humanity for what they have done for, in acknowledging ADD and ADHD, all these, all these conditions that do not exist in reality in these children.
Acknowledging and allowing kids to be diagnosed with social-anxiety disorder and defiance disorder and math disorder. And these are nonsense.
And, and these people are grossly incompetent, [have] no ethics whatsoever, [are] utter cowards, or they would stand up as Doctor Robert Mendelsson, a pediatrician, and others have done.
And there are a handful who've stood up and said, `we can't continue to sacrifice our children because the money and influence that it gives us with the pharmaceutical industry.' But that is another story.
But I can assure you, that I will be showing up at the, well, ah, ah, I don't want to go into that. I'm not letting this cat out of the bag. I can assure you that the top members of the Academy of Pediatrics will not like when they go eyeball to eyeball with me. At the outset...''
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VVH-TV News: Special Report on PLUM ISLAND
VVH-TV News Chief Investigative Reporter Karl Grossman interviews author Long Island native and lawyer Michael Christopher Carroll about his work ``Lab 257″.
Description: VVH-TV News Chief Investigative Reporter Karl Grossman interviews author Long Island native and lawyer Michael Christopher Carroll about his work "Lab 257".
This work takes us on a shocking journey inside the notorious Plum Island biological research facility.
Carroll spent five years researching this highly detailed and powerful account of the secretive government installation that sits just off the coast of some of New York's prime real estate, an installation that has had its share of meltdowns, mishaps and downright scary security breaches, including two known releases of deadly viruses into the air.
Owned by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Plum Island lies just off the coast of the North Fork of Long Island.
This otherwise uninhabited, woodsy island has a long history of controversy and secrecy, as Carroll so intricately details, and just may have put the millions of residents of the Tri-State area in utter danger of exposure to fatal animal diseases, including Rift Valley fever, West Nile virus, and even anthrax, time and time again.
Lab 257 is a wake-up call to people to be more aware of what goes on in their own backyards. Labs like these exist all over the country, some more visible than others.
Shoring up our crumbling biological research labs and accounting for the hundreds of vials of deadly viruses and microbes might be a better use of our time, our taxes and our energy. Plum Island, and its history of danger to millions of citizens, is proof of that indeed.
VVH-TV News attempted to have an interview with officials from the Department of Homeland Security but were denied.
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