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I would like to start my daughter on Mag, vitamin D, Garlic, and one a day vitamins, I believe Yeast is a big factor all she does is cry and mood changes are bad she takes doryx, cipro, soma (muscle relaxer) amitriptyline, percocet, don't know how to space all of this out she is 18 years old
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You said: '" . . . all she does is cry and mood changes are bad . . .""
I tried amitriptyline several times in the past and it always turned me into a complete emotional mess, suicidal all the time . . . walking halfway through a door because I could not stay on balance. There is some cousin to that which I also tried but that was just as bad for me. For myself, I have to stay very far away from all that. Even just a sliver of a low dose pill will kidnap my mood.
Percocet also can cause depression and also stress the liver. Liver support might help alleviate some of that.
Soma also has as side-effects drowsiness and depression, and low blood pressure upon arising, which can cause more fatigue.
From one page on SOMA: Central Nervous System: Drowsiness, dizziness, vertigo, ataxia, tremor, agitation, irritability, headache, depressive reactions, syncope, insomnia, and seizures . . . . ( www.rxlist.com/soma-drug.htm )
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It might be that side effects from the 3 drugs that affect the central nervous system may be affecting your daughter's mood. It can be very hard to balance pain relief (which is very important) as most Rx to relieve pain or relax muscles also, by their very nature, cause depression to the nervous system.
Liver stress is also a factor and that can cause depression, too.
Also to consider is the pattern of most lyme patients being VERY sensitive to even tiny amounts of most drugs that affect the central nervous system or put any stress on the liver.
On the flip side of that is that while even tiny amounts can create hangover and near catatonic states, they don't really even touch the pain levels to offer enough relief.
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Magnesium has been the best help for me in many ways - it helps muscles relax, it help calm the nervous system and it helps sleep and mood - and lifts energy a bit. But you have to go high enough with dose. Calcium, too.
The links below have been a huge help to me. The Singleton book is especially helpful in discussion of all these issues. Of vital importance in Singleton's book is specific detail to the endocrine system.
Your daughter is, no doubt, exhausted. Lyme takes a huge toll on the adrenals. Without specific adrenal support, she may not have a chance. It can really help with mood - and everything else. I hope you can get Singleton's book. If your daughter sees a LLMD, be sure to ask about this part of the support protocol.
Good luck to you both. It can take a while to find the right combination of nutrients to help lift mood but the study is well worth it.
If I had to limit my supplements to just one, GOTU KOLA wins, in my book.
It can help gently lift the mood and also helps take toxins out of the blood. It is not excitatory so there won't be a drop when it wears off. It's not sedating, so it's easier to think.
I'll come back with a bit more about that.
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Magnesium: The Underappreciated Mineral of Life Part II
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GOTU KOLA
Gotu Kola (Centella asiatica) has anti-convulsant properties. It can calm the nervous system while also helping with alertness. It helps give a sense of well-being without feeling ``wired'' or ``hungover''.
This is not a cola. It contains no caffeine and is not stimulating, per se, but can gently lift mood and energy - mostly by helping the liver detox poisons from the blood and increasing circulation.
Of everything I've used over the years, I cannot say enough good about the wonderful effects I've seen - in many ways - from Gotu Kola.
I deal with seizures but cannot tolerate any seizure drugs (even in tiny amounts) as they are far too sedating, compound vertigo and are very depressive to my brain and mood. Gotu Kola helps tremendously. It clearly calms the startle reaction, too.
GOTU KOLA -- An Under-Appreciated Herb: Multifaceted Benefits on Microcirculation for Cardiovascular and Cognitive Health
-- By Linda Fugate, PhD
The best nutrition in the world will not do anyone any good if it doesn't reach our tissues. The gatekeeper to tissues is the microcirculatory system, which includes blood vessels smaller than 0.1 mm in diameter. The health of the microcirculatory system is now recognized as critical to the total health of the individual. (1)
Gotu Kola's Effect on the Circulatory System . . .
From Wound Healing to Brain Health . . .
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Conclusion
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Gotu Kola's primary action is enhancement of the health of the circulatory system. Because circulation is critical to the health of the entire body, Gotu Kola offers benefits in a variety of conditions.
The antioxidant and collagen supportive functions of Gotu Kola are particularly important in enhancing healing of damaged tissues.
Gotu Kola is bitter and astringent in taste and cooling in action. It is a brain and memory tonic, and an anti-poison, and very useful for wound and skin healing.
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The primary effects of gotu kola include both wound healing and improvement of mental clarity and emotional balance. . . .
Research Highlights . . .
Numerous studies from around the world have demonstrated its efficacy in treating keloids, leg ulcers, phlebitis, slow-healing wounds, leprosy, surgical lesions, cellulitis, burns, dermatitis, venous disorders, and even cirrhosis of the liver (Maquart et al., 1999; Shukla et al., 1999; Hausen, 1993; Cesarone et al., 1992).
These studies illustrate the plant's numerous stimulating effects on the healing processes of the skin and connective tissue.
* The Indian Central Council for Research on Ayurveda and Siddha, citing more than ten pharmacological and animal studies of gotu kola, also found evidence of the following characteristics:
CNS depressant [calming without causing drowiness], memory enhancer, anti-convulsant, antispasmodic, behavior and intelligence enhancer, and blood sugar regulator (Pandley et al., eds, 1996).
- Full chapter at link above.
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I went back to read your post to be sure I got everything. I missed the mention of yeast.
Candida, alone, can cause depression and exhaustion. I have found Olive Leaf Extract (OLE) to be fabulous help to eliminate candida. It's all I need to keep it away if always taken from the start with abx treatment.
(The dry mouth that some of the sedating Rx can cause, also contributes to the growth of yeast, especially in the mouth, as it upsets the salvia/ pH balance.)
I assume your daughter's diet has been in line with the lyme and anti-candida diet so I'll not go into that (Singleton's book has much detail on diet, though).
I find that good diet is not enough, though, for the times I've been on abx. But I've never been on them long but candida is nearly instant for me if I don't take OLE &/or diflucan.
Diflucan might also be an option but it can be a bit hard on the liver. Still, once candida has started, it may be necessary to hit it with diflucan with OLE as the back up and then standard support to keep it away. (Again, Singleton's book has more detail.)
You can search PubMed (at the link in above post) for more on Olive Leaf Extract. There are many abstracts there.
CIMO/Escola Superior Agr�ria, Instituto Polit�cnico de Bragan�a, Campus Sta Apol�nia, Apt. 1172, 5301-855 Bragan�a, Portugal.
We report the determination of phenolic compounds in olive leaves by reversed-phase HPLC/DAD, and the evaluation of their in vitro activity against several microorganisms that may be causal agents of human intestinal and respiratory tract infections,
namely gram positive (Bacillus cereus, B. subtilis and Staphylococcus aureus),
gram negative bacteria (Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Escherichia coli and Klebsiella pneumoniae)
and fungi (Candida albicans and Cryptococcus neoformans).
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At low concentrations olive leaves extracts showed an unusual combined antibacterial and antifungal action, which suggest their great potential as nutraceuticals, particularly as a source of phenolic compounds.
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