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Why Did SANE Vax Inc. Investigate Possible Gardasil Contamination?
The mother of a sexually na�ve adolescent girl who developed acute onset Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis within 24 hours of her last injection of the Gardasil� series contacted SANE Vax Inc. looking for more information.
In an effort to help her now very sick daughter the mother went to an MD practicing naturopath who conducted a toxicity test that eventually found HPV DNA in the girl�s blood.
The significance of this finding is that it is highly unusual to find HPV DNA in the blood. HPV, if present in the body, exists in the epithelial (skin and mucosa) membranes.
HPV or its DNA, by itself does not survive for any great length of time in the bloodstream. Why was the HPV DNA in her bloodstream two years post-vaccination?
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Brings back memories I try and forget about the failed Lymerix vaccine. How I wish I never volunteered for that ....
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Another reason to refuse it over and over for my daughter. My pedi also is trying to get me to vaccinate my son with it also. Ughhh!
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Dont even get me started on Gardasil i was one of the Gardasil girls. My life has been a mess since 24...I am 25 now.. If you want to hear my story or ask my questions please let me know.
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I don't understand how they can justify giving this crap to young girls as young as 9 years old.
The risk for cervical cancer (which by the way is very slow grow cancer and curable), is what 12,000 new cases a year? And they want to vaccinate all the little girls for that? No thanks I'll take my chances!
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This vaccine messed me up bad, I dont knwo if I will ever be the same honestly. Its very scary. I get so depressed I ever got it. And now I am battaling lyme.
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I would like to know more. my daughter is 10. I plan on denying it, but would like info
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I'd be willing to bet there is an online support group for those who have been injured by Gardisil.
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For me personally it just doesn't make sense! The rate of cervical cancer per year is only 12,000 so WHY would I want to put my kids at risk for that?? This is a very slow growing and treatable cancer so all in all the benefits isn't worth the risk to me. So no way I'm giving my kids this.
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In Texas, school age girls had to get it.
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Your right there is a group. Anyone who wants any information on this can PM me. I have been living this nightmare for awhile.
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The vaccine is to help protect against HPV. HPV can cause cervical cancer, anal/rectal cancer, oral cancer, throat cancer... It is also one of the main causes of pelvic inflammatory disease and infertility.
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Again, you have to take a look at the RISKS vs the benefits. What % of people w/ HPV then later developed "cervical cancer, anal/rectal cancer, oral cancer, throat cancer... It is also one of the main causes of pelvic inflammatory disease and infertility"?
Recently we got notices that all the 8th grader has to get pertussis booster shot BEFORE they can start school this year. I opted out due to "personal beliefs".
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quote:Originally posted by momintexas: In Texas, school age girls had to get it.
- It didn't get that far, did it?
-- found this:
"The governor of Texas, Rick Perry, issued an executive order adding Gardasil to the states required vaccination list which was later overturned by the Texas legislature. Perry has also allowed parents to more easily opt-out of the program."
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Well, it was later overturned by Texas Legislature so I'm not sure....
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I agree, the HPV vaccine shouldn't be forced on girls (or boys).
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UGGGGGGGGG!!!
I actually wrote the Texas Governor (and others) when he tried to get the girls vaccinated in Texas (mandatory). I was NOT happy about it at all.
I carefully followed this vaccine through the process and read all the information about it I could find, and it kept smacking of the LymeRix vaccine. Sounded as if it was almost the same thing and it was done in the same shoddy fashion.
Check this out for more info and see what is going on. They are now trying to push it on the Canadians.
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ARG this stuff just makes me angry too. I was in the Navy when everyone ended up with HPV (navy people all living in the same quarters and sleeping together...very young and stupid). This was in 1988. I have a pap every year and it hasn't shown up in 10-15 years. Granted it might be in my blood stream? I don't know. The Gardisil vaccine has killed so many children. Most of them are reported in other countries. Just like others noted on this thread look at the risks vs the benefits.
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It's also wrong to force flu vaccines on us. They came VERY close to doing that 2 yrs ago. (or was that last year?)
They'd have to come after me.
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Vaccine is what caused me to get lyme
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Only the Lymerix vaccine can give you Lyme. Perhaps you already had dormant Lyme and a vaccine lowered your immune system so the Lyme could take over.
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Well yes thats what I meant... This vaccine is horribble
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Check this out Tricia. You're gonna be royally ticked. They are implementing forced vaccines in California IN MINORS and WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. Hopefully it will get vetoed. Otherwise it will become law.
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This is something we're working on here now - there's a bill on the governor's desk now, waiting to be signed, and everyone in this state and across the country is contacting him - DON"T SIGN this bill!!
It says they can pull kids aside in school without telling the parents. Whoa Nellie - what about parental consent? That's why parents' groups are up in arms across the country.
Merck, the manufacturer of the vaccine, paid a lot of our state reps some bucks. So for a little money they sell out our state's kids?
Anyone is welcome to call the governor's office here and give them an earful. Including that the vaccine isn't safe and isn't even proven to work.
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I would love to call
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quote:Originally posted by jlp38: Check this out Tricia. You're gonna be royally ticked. They are implementing forced vaccines in California IN MINORS and WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. Hopefully it will get vetoed. Otherwise it will become law.
GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!! You got to be kidding me!! I was just down at the health office signing a "Personal Beliefs" form to get my kid out of the Whopping Cough Vaccine and now this?!
Oh I'm not happy!!
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You can call or email from any state. I'm sure he'll be more likely to listen to Californians, but he has a chance to set a precedent here and influence other states. I hope he chooses the right way to go. I believe there is a link in the article to make it easy to email.
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It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
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quote:Originally posted by jlp38: It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
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Exactly!! I should have the right to do what I feel is best for my children. I don't need the Gov't to dictate that to me. I called the Governor's office already.
They asked for my name and zip code. I wonder how many times I can call?
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This is a precedent state - if they can get it passed here, it's more likely to be tried in other states. So call the governor's office here - NO GARDASIL BILL!!!
1) Runs roughshod over parental consent and informing parents, takes advantage of kids not knowing much about the situation when asked if they can be given the shot.
2) not guaranteed to work
3) 49 girls are already reported to have died from it
4) countless side effects reported
5) looks like it may have recombinant DNA in it that may mess up young girls' physiology and physically hurt them in time. See the top post here!
6) there are natural ways to handle the HPV STD problem, and immune-boosting.
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Check out this link that explains about how the vaccine contains HPV dna, which can cause the recipient to test positive for HPV after vaccination.
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If you've been watching the GOP debates at all, this has been an issue there too. Rick Perry signed an executive order mandating this vaccine. Thankfully Texas said "no way" to him and repealed it.
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quote:Originally posted by jlp38: [QB] It really doesn't matter if you are pro-vaccine or anti-vax. The question is, do you want parents to make decisions for children or the govt?
- Amen to that!
I don't even want the government making decisions for ME!
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We arrived to the point where the governments in most of the Western world are working for certain groups of people, who own the economy and the finances.
The governments are corrupt, bribed or/ and working directly with the lobbies.
They work for the pharma lobby, for the financial lobbies, for the agricultural lobbies, for the military industry lobbies.
They don't need the population for anything. We're just trouble for them.
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What happens in one state can become a precedent for others -
AB499 is sitting on CA Gov Brown's desk waiting for his signature. If he signs it, this means that schools can vaccinate boys and girls with the Gardasil vaccine for HPV.
The vaccine isn't specifically mentioned in the bill, but since the bill allows for minors to be medically treated for health conditions at school WITHOUT ANY PARENTAL KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT, this is what will start to happen.
There have been 22,000 adverse reactions reported, including Guillain Barre paralysis, and 89 deaths. Kids are not old enough to do the research it takes to make choices like this.
If any of you would like to help us in CA, you can call the governor's line at 855-468-2796, or email at www.gov.ca.gov.
I am currently communicating with my two state senators, who both voted for this bill.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brussels: [QB] We arrived to the point where the governments in most of the Western world are working for certain groups of people, who own the economy and the finances.
The governments are corrupt, bribed or/ and working directly with the lobbies.
They work for the pharma lobby, for the financial lobbies, for the agricultural lobbies, for the military industry lobbies.
They don't need the population for anything. We're just trouble for them.
Isn't it nice that Occupy Fill-In-The-Blank place has started!! Wow - everyone working together to correct the injustices. You can read what's happening around the country and world at www.occupytogether.org.Posts: 13171 | From San Francisco | Registered: May 2006
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Make more trouble and call the senators or whoever you think are working closely with the lobbies (or ARE the lobbyists themselves!).
They won't do anything if they are paid to do what they do. It's their job to push for crapy things like that, but at least, they will know there are people who aren't so 'sheep'.
I understand why some people decide to homeschool. No an option to everyone though, but after controling our kids minds, they will try to control the our kids health? What comes next?
If you read what the US army does with military personel going to conflict areas, you really wonder...
I do believe they test loads of pathogens in these mystery vaccines they give to the poor military personel, because the diseases these people take after, are so devastating that even, I think that there is more than simple 'normal pathogens' inside.
They have no idea to what they are being vaccinated, for what I read.
Knowing that borrelia strain that makes us sick has probably been engeneered and probably escaped from a lab, it is really scary.
If they do experiments with the military personel in mass scale, who can garantee they wont' do it in the children??
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The syndrome is contagious!! If it is, it has to be infectious! Where are these pathogens coming from??
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vaccination (anthrax) and Chronic fatigue syndrome
It's amazing that in Wikipedia, they say vaccines are not the cause of GulfWar Syndrome, but they provide no proof. Most articles point clearly to a relation between anthrax vaccine and Gulf War Syndrome!
the article in wikipedia even said the Iraqs bombed the troops with some biological warfare! I wonder when, if the Americans never found any weapons of mass destruction!!!
Fortunately a suffering war veteran is re-writing the article for Wikipedia!
This is worse than passing a law saying that children over 12 can decide on their own if they want to smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol.
This is yet another example of how the big corporations run the government. I wonder how much money the governor made off of this one. Someone needs to "Occupy" outside his house (i.e. protest).
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Thx, jlp and James, for noticing - good idea, James - there should be an occupation of Brown's home AND the legislature!
Will be watching for protest organizing - it's going to happen - so many people contacted the governor's office asking him not to sign something so potentially injurious. They had a special line for it and I heard comments were running very negative.
Y'all better be watching out for your states, since CA has just set a precedent, one that I hope will be overturned here in some way -
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Disgusting is the right word. Makes me wanna cry. Hopefully parents will educate their kids to refuse if that is their desire. I wonder how many people will pull their kids out of school over this. I know if we lived there we'd be moving or homeschooling, although my kids have been told they are to kick and scream or do whatever they have to do to get away from someone who would try to give them a shot. It felt a little like paranoia when we first tought them that, but I guess it was just reality. How can parents be responsible for their children if they can't even make basic health decisions for them? And you know this is just the first step. Adults will be next. I guess I better end this before I get all political.
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That is horrible!! Hope it can be overturned.
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Here's how I imagine it happening in school: Teacher: "Alright kids! Everyone line up for the vaccine shot. Come on, now. Everybody get in line. Let's go!"
Then all of the kids get in line. It's expected by the administrators that the kids who get in line are those that are voluntarily agreeing (without their parents consent) to get the shot. Any kids who don't want the shot are expected to be forcefully unwilling, and to not get in line like the other 95% of the kids.
This will be very difficult for the kids to do, because of peer pressure.
Basically the parents will have to teach the kids to "never get in line for a vaccine shot! You must be forceful!" Either way, this will be very difficult for the kids. I'm sure that the kids getting the shots will tease the kids who don't get it.
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I agree with James. The kids will just line up, and some won't know what's happening because they're not paying attention. Others will know what's happening but be too intimidated to speak out (that would be MY son).
The kids will not be told much details and they will NOT be told that they CAN opt out.
In our school district, middle school kids can't even take an ibuprofen in school without their parents' permission (giving a note to the school).
This is outrageous and I am sick to my stomache.
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