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robfar
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started doxy yesterday. got a rash last night(about 3" and looks like 2 fingers together) by my underarm and became pretty depressed today. still waiting for igenx. had a positive elisa and negative w/b. please, some adice would be great

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Sorry I don't have words of wisdom but doxy IS difficult to tolerate, all kinds of weird side-effects, not the ones listed either.

My face used to itch on it and after trial and error I changed my shampoo to the dandruff kind and poof my skin stuff disappeared.

Depression is normal too, but can be very difficult to live with. Upping my Omega 3 really helped. Pls check with your doc and hope both your rash and depression improve.

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under armpit rash is probably yeast

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Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself.

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sorry as i should have described it better.

the rash is on my back near the armpit.

anyone hear of a herx with a rash?

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I have broken out in Lyme rashes 3 times since starting antibiotics 1 year ago. You are herxing and the spirochetes are on the run.

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Sick since at least age 6, now 67. Decades of misdiagnosis. Numerous arthritic, neuro, psych, vision, cardiac symptoms. Been treating for 7 years, incl 8 mos on IV. Bart was missed so now treating that.

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I was able to take doxy for a couple of months and it really helped decrease sensitivity to sound like a miracle.

However, at some point I started to get silver dollar sized spots, raised, red, so itchy and painful. I had to stop. I tried doxy again several times over many months and each time, the same spots, in mostly the same places, even leaving scars.

So, it's not for me. However, just one place - if it is tolerable - may fade soon. It if is not tolerable call your doctor and see about getting a different medicine.

Also, are you taking your liver support supplements? That is vital. Milk Thistle is what you want. As mentioned above, Fish Oil, too.

The rash could be toxins exiting through your skin, which is the largest detox organ we have. If the liver is overwhelmed, the skin will show it. And, a toxin overload will also cause depression.

Be sure to drink lots of water and get good rest. This will get better.

And, your diet is good and you are avoiding all alcohol, artificial sweeteners and MSG, I hope.

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

ILADS Guidelines

and

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Dr. Burrascano'sTreatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Go to page 27 and also pages 31-32 for self-care information.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease


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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:


http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)


THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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Backing up . . . you said the rash looked like two fingers.

So, if they are elongated, this could be a Bartonella rash. Can you get a photo in good light?

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www.lymediseaseassociation.org

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- In the menu to the left of their home page, you can clink on photos of rashes.

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i have a pic but i don't know how to download it.

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i have a pic but i don't know how to download it.

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Does it hurt or itch? Be sure NOT to put any sort of corticosteroid or hydrocortisone cream on it, even if just a small percentage of steroid in the cream.

Aloe Gel may be soothing, you can get a tube that is 99% pure organic aloe at most vitamin stores.

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keebler, if he has an aloe plant; can't he use the juice directly from the plant to put on himself or have someone apply it for him?


you mentioned doxy so i'm going to paste my info on eye sensitivities below for you and others ... protect your eyes!


SENSITIVITIES: EYES--LIGHTS, NOISE/SOUNDS, AND CHEMICAL SMELLS !!

Betty's ROLL CALL of MEMBERS WITH EXTREME SENSITIVITIVITIES TO LIGHTS, SOUNDS/NOISE, AND CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=046537#000000


EYE SENSITIVITIES & NOIR, no infrared sunglasses info., 2-28-06 updated YES, I have what you have! Are you on doxy too? That made my extreme eyes 200% MORE sensitive than they we were earlier. I learned a lot about eye sensitivity/lighting on www.marshallprotocol.com board.
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/4.html detailed!


I ordered the NOIR sunglasses.
http://www.noir-medical.com/noir_amber.htm

You will need 2% amber and 10% amber ... Style no. 901 and 910.
1-800-521-9746 TOLL- FREE, ONE YEAR GUARANTEE!

mention you have lyme and marshall protocol, they will give you 10% off! I'm NOT on MProtocol, but mention it anyway. I was on their new board almost 12 months!

Also they have been kind enough to replace the SCRATCHED LENSES & BROKEN BOWS! How's that for service? I'VE NOT had to return broken/scratched lenses!!

In fact, I have a terrible time where they drop to the floor, and 1 of bows will break off the connecting PLASTIC piece connecting to the lense itself. They just take the info over the phone from YOUR STATE'S REP!

I don't drive often at night, but I can wear NOIR's 901 lenses at night while driving; it creates soft candle lights coming at me...tolerable. NOT to wear in town with all the action of people crossing where they shouldn't be.

Driving daylight hours, be sure to wear DRIVING GLOVES and a LONG SLEEVE SHIRT/JACKET so you will NOT SUNBURN ! I got burnt bad on my 1st out of state trip to new LLMD in Minn.

I wear my darkest tinted RX sunglasses always with my NOIR wraparounds over them, and my floppy straw hat too; shields my face/side views

NOTE: Wearing sunglasses that BLOCK ULTRA VIOLET LIGHT, help to prevent CATARACTS.


DRUGS ASSOCIATED WITH LIGHT SENSITIVITY by Minoucat
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=048201

Eye Floaters and Spots 9-07
www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/spotsfloats.htm
http://www.eye-floaters.com/floaters-entopticphenomenon.php

There is also something that is called "Scheerer's phenomenon" or "blue field entoptic phenomenon".
This is basically the ability to see white blood cells traveling through in the squiggly capillaries of your retinas... especially when looking at a blue light. (like the sky)
When a leukocyte travels through.. it makes a wiggling motion. The link below is v\ery interesting and even has an impression of this phenomenon. "Scheerer's phenomenon"


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77825
How lyme impacts the eyes - legit sources from Marnie, 2-22-09

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=504579

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/76692?#000007
Originally posted by Rebekah 6.7.09
Hi. Newbie here.
I'm a very sick eye doc with Lyme, bartonella, and borelliosis.

Eye pressure up to 29 may be normal. Not a very good test for glaucoma.
Better to look for dammage to optic nerve (visual nerve) with dilated exam.
When in doubt, a threshold visual field test (painless but boring) can be done to detect early glaucoma.

Other reliable tests that can help pick up glaucoma include corneal pachymetry and gonioscopy.

I agree that optic neuritis is a much greater concern with Lyme than glaucoma, but of course the possibility of glaucoma still exists in everyone.

If you're quite concerned about glaucoma, easiest way to rule it out would be the visual field route. Maybe ask a glaucoma specialist for a second opinion.

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Betty, good point. Yes, of course . . . the actual Aloe plant, itself is the real deal. I just haven't had an aloe plant for years and forget about that.

Also, robfar, be sure to avoid sun on your skin when taking doxy.

good luck
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Keebler were you having an allergic reaction? Or do you think it was the bugs? My son is having the same problem on Nystatin.

It's happened twice and it has resolved each time on its own.

Thanks C

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C3MOM,

I don't know. What I found very odd was that each time, at least four times (maybe five) over six month's time that I tried, the rash spots were EXACTLY in the same place for 8 of the 12-13 total.


And the rash would start within 20-30 minutes after the 2nd time. My doctor said that it would take longer if that were an allergic reaction. He is not a LLMD so I did not pose the question of if these might have been hot spots of spirochetes reacting.


I think it is highly likely, in my case that this was a spirorchetal reaction as I have read of similar things. Or, since I can pass out from someone's perfume - with porphryia, I don't "do" chemicals well - it might be that my body reacted much more quickly than a typical reaction from the drug for someone else.


However, since even after just one pill, the spots were torture and there would be no way that I could survive any more pain from those rashes. I've never been in such pain and I can handle a lot.

No alteration in my liver support changed the reaction with subsequent trials.


Even after just one pill, the spots would burn and itch, pinging way down into my leg tissue - for a full week. It would take a month for the greyish scars to fade and, years later, I still have one spots where the skin is still sort of grey and itchy.

Very odd.

the sad thing is that doxy allowed me to be with people as it was the only thing to soften the hyperacusis and help prevent seizures from startles. I took it to be able to safely go out and be around life.


When the doxy rash stopped me, I tried minocycline but the vertigo around that was unbearable for me. Once the minocyclyine also helped decrease the hyperacusis, but the next time I took it and went out, I had major sound problems and passed out from the pain in my ears.


So, for me, I switched to allicin and then on to andrographis. But nothing, nothing, has been able to replicate the wonderful relief I got from noise by taking doxy. It was truly a miraculous drug for me in that manner and I'm so sad that I could not continue it.


So, C3MOM, if your son is having a reaction and it is uncomfortable for him, I suggest changing. Can he talk Olive Leaf Extract? That is wonderful for candida and has many other benefits that Nystatin does not.


All this is too miserable to have to be more miserable by anything that we can switch around (or change the dose) if we have to. And, since it is impossible to know exactly what causes the reaction, I think it's best to stop and switch. The visible reaction may be only part of a larger reaction that we don't see. Minor stuff, okay, maybe work through it. But, if the message is clear, listen to the body.


Each person is unique and we may never find out why someone can take something and the next person cannot.

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ROBFAR,

Sorry to put all this here. It's not to scare you. My reactions are rare but, as C3MOM asked, my answer here may help shine light in case someone else has a similar reaction.


I also don't have a LLMD and have been trying to guide my own boat. That is never the best idea. So, I hope you get the best medical guidance that you can.

Good luck.

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