Does this indicate babesia?
It is my understanding that wormwood is a standard treatment for babesia, although it also kills other parasites and even candida. I have never been tested for the coinfection babesia.
Is the herx-like reaction from a single dose a back-door diagnosis of babs, or is something else going on?
Bc
Here's a really good article:
http://cmr.asm.org/cgi/content/full/13/3/451?view=full&pmid=10885987
I would definately consider this carefully.
Some other atrimisinin derivatives target Babesia more specifically.
There is allot here if you do a search on Artimisinin.
Mo
I read on an orthodox medical site where the combination of quinine and clindamycin were used. Is clindamycin similiar to mepron...both anti-parasitic drugs?
Get the good stuff, Nutricology, here.
Proper dosing is important
(I'm not a doctor, etc... just one of the gang)
Dan
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Dan...Besides that, why would you just start on Artemisinin, and not try to bring down the load by using mepron and a macrolide?
Just curious...
My LLMD uses this as standard, and said none of the one things would work on it's on, but only make the babesia resistant and "impossible" to treat.
He didn't say anything about taking a break from the Artemesia.
DLL
The sun is a gazillion times hotter than a frying pan, but you don't fry when you go outside - because the dosages are different.
One doesn't take as much Artemisinin as one does Wormwood. And, as I said, "proper dosing is important".
"Besides that, why would you just start on Artemisinin, and not try to bring down the load by using mepron and a macrolide?"
For one, I tested negative for Babs so the doctor wasn't going to treat (and thus in theory I had no load to bring down); and I have a history of little or no herxing; and all info that I have read indicates that Artemisinin is safe at doses far higher than I would contemplate.
Note that the herb Artemesia has many components that are not present in Artemisinin, which is a refined product. So your strong reaction does not necessarily predict anything about how you'd react to Artemisinin.
Add to that, the oft-forgotten truth:
not everything that feels bad is a herx.
Dan
Just hitting on some of the questions that I didn't see answered. Clindamycin is an antibiotic aka Cleocin. It's the quinine that would be acting in lieu of the Mepron.
Another macrolide that people use instead of Zithromax is Biaxin XL.
Also, my LLMD rx'd 1 100mg NutriCology Artemisinin 3 x's a day. The bottle says 1-2 capsules 2 x's a day.
The general rule with Babs is that you have to use at least 2 things against it at the same time. Using only one will create drug resistence.
Also, babesia is a protozoa not a parasite. It attacks and destroys red blood cells.
I tried my artemisinin when I started all the other stuff. I got hit so hard, I had to stop. The next time I started up while continuing with Mepron and Zith, there was no problem at all.
Did it form resistence or did the Mepron and Zith lower the load enough for me to tolerate it? I don't know.
That's all I can add to this thread for now.
I will say that I've been treated for Lyme, Bartonella and HME for 2 years and I did not make any progress. Now that I'm being treated for Babs, I feel a whole lot better.
Good Luck,
Corgilla
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