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Posted by flygirl (Member # 6669) on :
 
Hi all,

I am taking milk thistle for my liver, and I may take artemesia one day... I read something here about turmeric, and oregano?

I am also scarfing 6 acido pills a day.

where do I find out more about these non-prescrip drugs? what else could I take to help me along?

I also drink a lot of water...

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Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :
 
www.real-world-health.com

Their site might be under construction, but you could give them at call at (877) 681-5921.

Their fantastic people who work with my LLMD and have helped put me back together again. They'll be more than happy to discuss your situation with you and perhaps give you some tips to help speed your recovery. Tell them Julie told you to call.

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Posted by fulfillment09 (Member # 6492) on :
 
Hi Flygirl,

I have liver problem too and I'd tried many different products for years for that condition. Some were good and others was a waste of money. I had also used milk thistle, reishi (ganoderma lucidum) with other combination of medicinal mushroom herbs (don't remember the brand), and also several types of chinese herbal products. Some with good results, but overall still not enough to treat my symptoms.

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Posted by trevor (Member # 4353) on :
 
Hi flygirl and Merry Christmas!

I'm so glad you're wanting to know more about "natural remedies".
For the liver, there is really so much you can do. The milk thistle is a good one, if it agrees with you. For me, I can only take small amounts of the stuff. Of course there is no one protocol for all of us!

Thorne is a great company and they put together a liver support formula called S.A.T. It stands for Sylimarin (sp?), the latin genus for milk thistle; Artichoke, and artichoke is really underrated, it's quite amazing for the liver; and Turmeric. These three are great.

Dandelion is great for the gall bladder which is a a small, pear-shaped muscular sac, located under the right lobe of the liver, in which bile secreted by the liver is stored until needed by the body for digestion. So it should be considered when discussing the liver. In the past, I used dandelion tea to resolve painful biliary sludging in my gall bladder caused by rocephin (it's known to do this).

There are also many medicinal mushrooms that are excellent for the liver, such as, turkey tail, zhu ling, reishi, cordyceps (also great for lung function and stamina), shiitake and chaga. These mushrooms also display numerous other beneficial effects. Some are anti-inflammatory, most are anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-cancer, and there's so much more. Medicinal mushrooms are an understudied, poorly understood treasure chest of magic. There's a product called "Liverforce" put out by New Chapter that contains the above mushrooms and is quite good.

Always be aware of the quality of your sources. Everything must be organic, or the equivalent of this (getting the label "organic" is tricky for many companies). And very importantly, be aware of drug-herb and herb-herb-supplement interactions. I recommend buying a thorough book on interactions.

The amino acid Taurine is great for the liver and my doctor has told me that lymies tend to require this amino.

Alpha Lipoic Acid is also great for the liver. It's also a "universal" antioxidant, both fat and water soluble, and it will chelate metals and chemicals from your body as well.
There's much more, but I'll leave it here,
good luck, it sounds like you're on the right track!

Merry Christmas!

trevor/oliver
 


Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Milk thistle is acidic. May cause the liver to dump alkaline charges...to react with the acids to produce hydrogen.

It's in ER's in Germany to treat mushroom poisoning. If the Germans happen to pick and eat the wrong (toxic) mushroom.

Hydrogen is one of the things that INactivates PFK...an enzyme that Bb is dependent on.

Normally Mg is supposed to control this.

Citrates also INactivate PFK. Think...

We need to make a LOT of hydrogen...little mineral, lots of acids -> hydrogen.

But to get the hydrogen INTO the cells = CoQ10. Which we make when we exercise, if we have the nutrients.

With the die-off = acidic as the toxins in the outer cell wall are destroyed.

Eat foods that are alkaline, have high Mg content, and low glycemic index. This is the safest route...good foods and good water (get the fluoride out - filter).

You do NOT want to trigger insulin (with sugar, not complex carbs).

I see you have cats. Cat scratch disease, bartonella, also uses Mg in its enzyme reactions. Are you co-infected?


 


Posted by flygirl (Member # 6669) on :
 
thank you everyone!

I have babs for sure, LD is suspected once we rattle the babs cage.

I am taking milk thistle as a preventive, so far, no liver probs!

the kitties are a recent addition, I don't believe I have anything from them.

is the green drink (barley grass juice) any good?

it goes down tough though!
 


Posted by fulfillment09 (Member # 6492) on :
 
green drinks are good. I like the fresh squeeze wheat grass juice. The taste is nothing to be excited about, but it's healthy.
 


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