This is the 4th time taking it.
I took some Mondayl night probabbly 1/2 a pill in 2 doses. I felt some herx rections in my knees and body but they didnt last long at all.
Did the same thing last night with the same response.
Today I just took the same dosage and right after I felt pins and needles in my legs and arms. Maybee Im being parinoid but this isint supposed to be a good sign.
Does the flagyl neuropathy last this short?
It seems strange. I only had it for 5 minues.
It was not a herx type feeling,, I usually get severe burning all over my sking especially my feet from the biaxin early on,.
Thanks in advance!!
LH,
I had this flagyl-induced numbness, and stopped it 2 days after it started, thinking this was a neuropathy.
I stopped the flagyl as a precaution.
Check w/ your doc., or drug books,and sites for indications on when to stop.
As best I recall, I think this is an indication to stop the flagyl, at least temporarily.
Best to err on side of safety, and check drug sources until you get an answer.
pq
"ohh 250mg twice a day will be fine."
No side effects....
"should I start off lower?" I asked...
Nah,,,
Yea right,, I know better , im taking it slow
I see him on Friday ---woo hoo!!!!
I keep taking more and more slivers tonight and I feel slight pins and needles..
I want to be better so Ill struggle through this.
No major herx though.
Anyone else on this board continue with flagyl even though it gave them the sensation of pins and needles?
Perhaps what you feel is cysts breaking.
If you have plenty of them and they break all the time it may look like needles.
With time it should be less.
Too early for neuropathy
It builds up overtime?
It doesnt feel painfull just numb and like pins and needles,,like they fell asleep.
In my hands and in my feet and actually my scalp.
I had true neuropathy from the biaxin and that was PAINFULL,, felt like sunburn.
My feet swelled a little turned purple and BURNED like they were being dipped in hot acid.
Sophmore = Wise Fool
You can always go back to it.
Find out if flagyl-induced neuropathy is permanent or reversible. If you take it long enough without a break you'll know for sure, either way.
I still suspect you feel the same thing that I feel: breaking cysts - and it is a good sign.
It makes sense Areneli.
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It was determined in the other post that it was nerve irritation not the cysts breaking.
It does say that Flagyl causes nerve irritation.
He said that the Flagyl induced neuropathy usually happens after a long time.
He might be smart in some ways but he doesnt know everything.
You do not want permanent neuropathy in your hands and feet. Imagine not being able to walk without pain, and not having much of a sense of touch in your fingertips. This is what happened to me, and it's about as un-fun as having Lyme. I'm slowly recovering feeling with high dose ALA supplementation, but it's very slow.
I doubt your feeling the cyst forms breaking.
Its nerve pains. Lyme causes that.
The cyst's you speak of aren't very big there microscopic.
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Flagyl causes that I continued but if it becomes to much lighten up. Its oersonal choice between you & llmd.
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I just want to get better.
How much Flagyl were you taking and how long were you on it?
Did you have severe side effects on it that led to the permanent damage?
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Originally posted by hobokinite:
Be careful with Flagyl. six years later I still have damage from it! If you have any chemical sensativities or aweak liver, or trouble detoxing, get off of it!
I bet you will feel the same popping, because these are the cysts.
Anyway, for now I stick to the cysts disintegration hypothesis as it fits the best my observation.
I took 1 and 1/2 pills today.
I just took the last one an hour ago with food and I know that its making me itchy.
All over my body,,, not tooo bad but enough to want to scratch.
I was taking 250mg 3 x a day but Iam a big fellow and he llmd monitored(bloodwork) my liver every 2 months at first it was every month for a while bu my body seemed to handle it okay.
Dont drink any alcohol ever while takeing flagyl can have sever reactions.
This drug may also be prescribed to relieve itching associated with gallbladder obstruction.
Matbe something is doing this to your gallbladder ? Lyme? ?Biaxin? Flagyl?
Thank you for your care and information.
Ill will print out this thread and bring it to my LLMD today.
If I dont get snowed in that is..........
I took 2 pills yesturday and at night I was itching so much.
I woke up and coulndt go to sleep for an hour because of the itching.
Wonder what it is,, side effect, allergy, does it go away? Ill be talking to the doctor today. Hopefully he wont be short on words.
However one must have purpose to live and feel worthy of it.
The flagyl I think cleared my head a little but its tough to tell at what cost.
Maybee the itching is from the yeast die off?
I do not yet have a herxheihmer from it even after 4 days.
Perhaps this drug is not for you.
Itching correlates with liver difficulties.
The gallbladder store the stuff the liver makes.
DRilled him as usual.
He said that the itching and knee pain was a good sign. He told me to take some benedryl,, so ill just take my allegra.
The pharmicist said to watch for rash or hives or swelling of lips or tougue,, the doctor DR. S said the same thing.
I said how long should I be on flagyl and then he said : Do you want to get better?
He said I can stay on it for months,, we need to pop those cysts.
When I asked him if flagyl was good for the neuro stuff he said no. He doesnt know how that can help. Only plaquinil is better for the joint pain.. There are only 3 cyst poppers./
Then I said,, well if my brain is loaded with cysts are they affecting my memory and concentration and mood...@???
Are the cysts harming anything or are they active... He couldnt give me an answer, he said he didnt think they were harming anything.
So ill keep taking the flagyl untill I die I guess... Thats when Ill have my true answer.
At least to all those who frequent this board and to the Oh so famous doctor Zijad.
I just want my vertigo to clear up and to feel some hope of LIFE like all of us.
I have switched to Amoxicillin but even if I no longer take Minocycline (that in my opinion destroys cysts if given in large dose) I still have a small number of 'cyst popping'. Apparently, Minocycline has some delayed action on cysts. I may consider switching to Mino from time to time for a week or two apply dose 400 mg. It seems to be a good idea.
After two months of suffering on antybiotics I no longer have huge herxes on 12 g of Amoxicillin that I take now.
That means that majority of my bugs in my body have been killed.
Still, there are plenty of cysts to pop in my body and the brain to pop and free bugs in the brain to kill.
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Still just very itchy.
Im keeping on the lok out for a rash and breathing dificulties etc
I just cant belive that the doctor said that this was a good sign and it means that it is working.
Then in the next paragraph he said that the BIAXIN (which is what Im on) works great with plaquinil.
So I said then why dont you put me on that!!@??
He said,,, ohhh;:::::well wait and see what will happen (in his bosnian accent)
I need some more responses!!
Is it possible to just continue to feel better on the flagyl without a major herx???
Cause thats what Im feeling, a week on it allready and Im in less pain, my fog is clearing a little and Im less tired.
Is this possible?
Or is it another manefestation of my mind HMMHOO
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I don't think so
Unless its suppressing the cysts ability to thrive? hmm'
I had a kinesiologist muscle test me about 6 months ago and he said that I tested positive for Chylamidia, I think its possible that the Flagyl is hitting that and this could be some type of co-infection.
Either way "we will see what will happen"
I will keep this thread posted at this most interesting time in my life.
I have only been on 250mg twice a day for 4-5days.
I hear people going up to 1500mg a day. More then 3 times my dosage.
That could be why I have some herx type symptoms,, fatigue knees hurt depression ...after I take the pill and then in an hour I feel great!
I dont get it... however I would like to and not be ignorant.
I am not on Flagyl because of neuropathy problems. I am on Tinidazole, instead AND mino. Can't remember the dossage. Tini on five, off 2 - 3x a day. I haven't had any major herxes with Flagyl or these two. Maybe lots of minor ones, but nothing that knocked my socks off.
Wanted to stay on Flagyl because it was so immediately good at clearing the brain. In days I felt sharper, was able to function better, etc. But the neuropathy in the legs was not an option.
If you can stay on Flagyl, then go for it, I say.
I feel that my new cocktail is okay, but very slow and I'm getting impatient, too.
It's hard to go back and forth in feeling wellness, cause you're always comparing now to when the meds were helping more, let alone, before you got sick.
Anyway,
good luck with whatever you do.
hopeful123
Exactlly,, I thought it couldnt be that I would surelly herx right away. So far some small herxes and a clearer head. Still have the constant vertigo and MCS which contributes to the fog but...
You experience with flagyl sounds like mine.
Havent had neuropathy yet, hope to never on this. The BIAXIN herx gave me terrible burning. It felt like someone was dipping my legs in hot acid.
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I have some itching right after I take it and then my skin feels much better and Im in less pain.
I like this drug. Its doing something.
No nasty herxes yet, still on 500 mg a day.
I wonder how high I can go and for how long.
I know Zithromax, Biaxin, and Ketek are in the same family. However I had a much worse herx on Biaxin then the zith. The zith just upset my colon and gave me burning at the exit point.
Didnt try the ketek yet.