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Posted by lhm312 on :
 
I know this doesn't belong here, but thought it would get the most attention.

I had sent several emails to [email protected] and she finally wrote back. It takes her weeks to respond.

She's trying to tell me the search is working because she tried it, and asked which words I had tried. Guess she figures none of us know how to do a search after all this time.

It's been a number of weeks since the search feature hasn't worked. Can others who are annoyed as well please send email to [email protected] to express their upset?
 


Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
Me too.

Don't understand how she can get it to work and we can't.

I always hate to complain about things when this is a free service being maintained by a few volunteers. But it would be really nice if search worked. That was one of the many things that Lymenet did better than yahoo groups. Could never find anything when searching yahoo lyme forum.
 


Posted by suz9601 (Member # 6968) on :
 
Count me in. I am new here and have tried on numerous occasions to search and 90% of the time it won't work. When it does work, it will take it soooooo long to find it. Very frustrating.
 
Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :
 
Count me in as well. It is NOT working


 


Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I agree. I posted about this more than a month ago, but since the feature isn't working I can't bring the link up.

Jenifer emailed me a week or so ago and said it was working. I have gotten it to work, but it's VERY slow and tricky.

What I found is that if you do the search, then when it just sits there, take your mouse and click on the page....anywhere. [well, almost]

Sometimes it will then bring up the items you're wanting.

but it definitely needs some work

This really hinders our ability to help people when we can't find links for them.

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Posted by arg82 (Member # 161) on :
 
I'm pretty annoyed about this, too. Since we can't search, we don't benefit from previous information and end up having to ask questions all over again and not get as much information. Frustrating when we KNOW there were discussions about certain subjects before but can't ACCESS them. Should more of us e-mail someone about this? They can't ignore it forever.

--Annie

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Posted by zuzuu (Member # 6826) on :
 
I'm glad someone brought this up, as I'm pretty new here and thought I was doing something wrong. I really want to use the Search function as I hate to ask questions that have already been hashed over a few times. But I guess I'm going to have to. By the way, the people on this forum are really great to help everyone the way they do. I appreciate it.
 
Posted by tequeslady (Member # 6832) on :
 
She probably asked you the words you used, so she could try to debug the problem. She has to try to replicate the issue you had. I believe it is good news that she asked what you had entered.


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Originally posted by lhm312:
I know this doesn't belong here, but thought it would get the most attention.

I had sent several emails to [email protected] and she finally wrote back. It takes her weeks to respond.

She's trying to tell me the search is working because she tried it, and asked which words I had tried. Guess she figures none of us know how to do a search after all this time.

It's been a number of weeks since the search feature hasn't worked. Can others who are annoyed as well please send email to [email protected] to express their upset?



 


Posted by minoucat (Member # 5175) on :
 
What I've found is -- it works fine at 3 in the morning, when there is no user load on the site.

Otherwise, it churns away and often times out.

So yes, I'll email her too and let her know.

I'd be interested in how much the traffic on this site has grown. A lot, I think, which puts stress on the entire system.
 


Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
the more people who email her, the better
 
Posted by HaplyCarlessdave (Member # 413) on :
 
Yes, it would indeed be good to have the search function work . Well at least they have it "looking good": -- the story of life in America, eh? Now a search function shouldn't be so hard to write, An internal engine really is needed here, because, for example, google's "spiders" (categorization programs) can't get past the password protection. It really would be very good to be able to search, especially when people first find the site and are looking for answers. I used it many times- I may have had problems at one time, but then it got fixed, and was very helpful.
DaveS

 
Posted by richtersl (Member # 2554) on :
 
Got a question: for those who are having problems with search, how are you connecting to the Internet? Via a telephone modem?

I ran a search yesterday at work and it worked fine. It was slow as molasses but it worked. We have a network connection to the Internet and it's normally pretty speedy. But it was really dragging its feet yesterday with the search.

For those of you using telephone modems it may not appear to work because you're probably timing out before your search results are being displayed.

If the moderator can get it work, the moderator either has a network connection, cable connection, or DSL connection to the Internet.

I'm not sure how often the servers here are maintained. But it sounds like this one needs some maintenance.

Linda
 


Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
 
I can successfully do a search under seeking a doctor, but that's it. It has been so frustrating the last couple months.

Pam
 


Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
 
WOW! richtersl !!!!! How ya been ? didn't know youwere still around lymenet....

Hope all is good with you.

robi
 


Posted by Areneli (Member # 6740) on :
 
The site is getting bigger and busier and what worked before may not work too well now.

Eventually, there will be a need for better equipment and software servicing the website. These will cost money and perhaps that is why it is delayed.

 


Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
Think you have put your finger on the probable cause. Heard there were some astronomical number of hits on this website, many more than posts would suggest.

Plus, they didn't get the kind of donations last time they were looking for, to pay fees and buy equipment. And, I think relying on volunteers for a long time, the same ones, can be iffy. Getting qualified help is always a problem for efforts like this. How many of us are doing volunteer work of any magnitude for years at a time?

On the subject of connection, I have dial up but search did work better in the past than now.

[This message has been edited by lou (edited 05 April 2005).]
 


Posted by lhm312 on :
 
I have high speed internet service, and everything else is working.

I am still getting "website not responding" when I try a search, and have tried at different times of the day.

Maybe if Jenifer can at least tell us what's happening and when it might be resolved, we would feel better.

In the meantime, please contact her so she can understand how many of us are affected.

 


Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I have DSL and I recently have been able to get results on the search function, but it's extremely slow.


 


Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :
 
Im upset,,, 9 out of 10 it does not work
 
Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :
 
Yes, I totally agree. I've tried for 3 months with NO success using my dial-up modem.

Also, I thought with the money donated last fall that they did get enough money to do what they intended too.

I'm all for emailing Jennier.

Bettyg
 


Posted by KrisKraft (Member # 4329) on :
 
I vote that LymeNet move over to the discussion engine used by the Canadian Lyme group. It seems much better on many levels.

Any seconds to this motion?
http://www.canlyme.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=6ad378716ef1e7fab8b3f6183699ee0e

KrisKraft
 


Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
 

I have a regular phone line for the computer
and the search function has rarely worked.

I "gave up" the search.

Its very frustrating when time is very limited.

This disuades people from continuing with a subject matter on a thread in an in-depth manner, as eventually they find themselves having to comb-through threads searching for a topic, V-e-r-y time consuming process.
 


Posted by joycejcwat101 (Member # 6848) on :
 
I also get "Web site not responding" no matter what or how I try to do the search. I also have a dial up.

Joyce
 


Posted by lhm312 on :
 
Obviously the problem still exists and lots of people are affected.

Has everyone emailed Jenifer to let her know how pervasive it is?
 


Posted by lhm312 on :
 
up
 
Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :
 
I just emailed Jenifer about this. Thanks for the reminder.

Bettyg
 


Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 
I used yesterday
 
Posted by JillF (Member # 5553) on :
 
It works for me. Always has. If I feel like waiting 5-10 minutes... It takes for freakin ever. Always has but these past few months, it seems to be even longer.

I have cable modem by the way. Our network is fast, so it's not our side that is the problem.
 


Posted by ArtistDi (Member # 2297) on :
 
I thought it was just my computer, but I can't
get into the search engine either.
 
Posted by danq (Member # 2126) on :
 
The problem, dear Lymies, is twofold:
1) lots of people on a limited resource
2) lots of posts to search through - over 105,000 in Medical.
3) the search is looking through all the text of every post!
4) the equipment's probably inadequate - and the software is old, too.

How's that twofold? Two folds gets you four sections - try it with a piece of paper...

I just tried a search here - at midnight (left coast time).
Medical - 105,000 posts : 2 minutes.
Computer Questions - 1160 posts: 4 seconds.
Those figures are going to be quite different during the daytime when all you Eastern Lymeheads hit the keyboards!

Now about Point Four above: equipment can't get any better without more $$$$. That's a tough one for us, 'cause one of the wondrous aspects of this disease is how it saps our ability to make a living. But that's the root problem with your slow search... one of them that is.

For now, to speed up your searches: where it says, "search in", check "Subject Only" when that would do the trick. To make such searches possible, make the subjects succinct and informative.



The other factors are ones that some people aren't gonna like mentioned. That's Redundancy and Long-Windedness. Because the speed of the searches depends on how many topics have to be read, and how long each one is.

Redundancy is when someone posts a question that's been answered 12 times this month. Using the search function can help alleviate that, but we're getting into a chicken-and-egg thing here...

Long-Windedness speaks for itself. Over and over and over. It includes incessant harping on one thing or another, and unending arguments about who's attacking who. Lots more to say on that, but I don't wanna be on the chicken side of this egg...


Dan
Lymetoo is too a goon! ..and ask Tincup which one...

[This message has been edited by danq (edited 09 April 2005).]
 


Posted by Jenifer (Member # 697) on :
 
Just to let everyone know, I am aware of the search problem on LymeNet's Flash Discussion Board.

Because there are three different search functions on LymeNet, I did not know that the Flash search was the one that was not working properly. I am now aware of that.

All explanations as to the problem are valid. LymeNet has grown substantially! This means there is more traffic and more posts. This is probably why the search worked faster at 3am when traffic is slower. The servers are old and LymeNet has invested in new servers which are in the process of replacing the old ones, thanks to donations!

Because of the slowness of searching every post, faster connections will experience less wait time. I have a cable modem which is probably why it was hard for me to understand what the problem was at first since I was not experiencing it.

To minimize the search wait time, please try to define your search information to a specific forum. Even if this means you have to run the search over again for each forum, this may reduce your wait time and the "website not responding" error message. Also, try to do the search within the past few days. That means less posts the search has to look at, meaning faster results.

I am very dedicated to LymeNet. I do try to put as much time as I can into helping LymeNet users and I apoligize for the delay recently in getting back to some people. I have not had much spare time recently and I feel bad that I could not put more time into LymeNet. My schedule should be lightening up in a couple weeks though!

Please bare with us while we try to fix this problem and update LymeNet. In the mean time, please try the suggestions I have made above.

Sincerely,
Jenifer
[email protected]

 


Posted by lhm312 on :
 
I give up. I followed Jenifer's suggestions and am still getting "website not responding."

I have high speed internet service. This is very frustrating.
 


Posted by ibrakeforticks (Member # 6785) on :
 
I have dial-up, searching never seems to work. I just tried again, limiting the search to Medical Questions and to 30 days, and it still didn't work. For now maybe the search option should be removed.

I for one would pay a fee to get access to the wealth of information that seems to be in old posts.
 


Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
It is now working for me, with dial up. Does take a little longer than in the past. I am sure that if they whack off a lot of the older posts, it will be faster, but then we lose good stuff. If people would just post stuff in the right forum, and avoid the other aggravations that Dan identified, there would be less of a problem.

Do I need to point out that this thread should have been on general instead? But then, you already knew that. People who don't bother to post anywhere except medical are part of the problem. Please don't say that it is too hard for lymies to switch forums. This is really silly. It is no harder than switching threads in this forum.

If you are willing to pay a fee, then donate to lymenet when they ask for donations.

Grumpy response, I know, but that old saying about looking a gift horse in the mouth applies here.

[This message has been edited by lou (edited 16 April 2005).]
 




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