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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
I called my gyn office today, and the PA called me back and told me it is still being cultured but is showing a yeast infection. The gyn is out today but will call back tomorrow with a script.

i do the stupid diet except for breakfast...i eat 14 g of carbs a day if that. I guess i will just continue to starve myself.

Im starting to wonder if i just dont have systemic yeast and not lyme at all. Maybe my herx's are yeast and not lyme.

im also taking probiotics 6 times daily and just add caprylic acid (spelling)

actually cant wait to see what this yeast is resistant too!!

I feel like im the only one with this issue too...everyone else seems to be able to do treatment but me.

[ 28. April 2006, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: cantgiveupyet ]
 

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Posted by luvs2ride (Member # 8090) on :
 
Hey Can't,

You "Can't give up!"

I am feeling the exact same way. Is Lyme my problem or yeast?

Mine is systemic and harder to eliminate. I also have black yeast which I can find precious little about but the doctor says it is too hard to kill for orals to work, so I will be receiving IV treatment for the yeast starting 5/10/06.

The test he used was High Resolutio Blood Morphology and it was really cool to see.

Maybe you have read my other posts about it, so I won't repeat here.
 

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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
Hi luvs,

i do remember your post. I guess i will make an appt with a holistic dr to get the yeast checked out. I have their email here, i will ask what tests they run etc.

luvs- are you off abx for lyme?
 

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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
Also what digestive enzymes are good for getting the yeast under control?
 

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Posted by alliebridge (Member # 9103) on :
 
I would suggest adding salads, PB8 and garlic.

For me, when I'm eating salads at both lunch and dinner(along with whatever protein I'm eating), it seems to keep yeast at bay.

I also have good luck with the PB8 brand of probiotic.

I have to take anywhere from 6 to 12 capsules per day, though, when I'm on antibiotics.

Even if I'm eating low carb, if I don't eat the right balance for my body, I can start to feel yeast coming on.

I think it has to do with maintaining the right acid/base balance.

Like if you eat a (bunless)cheeseburger, eat a salad with it, to neutralize the acid in the burger.

I think I read about this first in the book "Protein Power" and it makes sense.

In the past, I had systemic yeast so I feel I'm almost an expert on the subject, sorry to say!

Back then, I took caprylic acid, along with garlic pills, the oil of oregano capsules, and a few others.

They did help. It took a while, though.

Good luck with it!
 

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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I know someone who does oil of oregano drops everyday even though her yeast is under control. I think the added salads would be a good idea...and GARLIC.

I can't seem to tolerate garlic...don't even like it...but maybe it will work for you, can't. Don't give up.

I also bought something called Kolorex from New Zealand that someone here mentioned. I've only taken it for the past two days, so too early to tell.


 

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Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
 
hey cangiveup
yeast can become resistant to diflucan

maybe ask your doc about another anti-fungal.

I have the same problem and am beginning to think maybe I also am resistant to diflucan.
am going to ask about nizoral.

I have an article that says yeast very seldom become resistant to nystatin,which is a good prevnetative but hasn't been effective for killing it for me.

natural supps for yeast are freeze dryed garlic,caprilic acid,olive leaf extract,coconut extra virgin oil,grape seed extract,and oragano oil if your stoamch can handle it.

take care
and hang in there
 

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Posted by Bon (Member # 5999) on :
 
Hi !

Yogurt? Have you tried that to your mix?

Bon
 

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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
thanks everyone,

i will try the salads and see how that goes.

im taking garlic, and caprlic acid and im looking for another probiotic to use. ive also added an immune booster.

my yeast is resistant to diflucan, so i was on Vfend for 2 weeks......guess that didnt work either.

im worn out from all of it, ive taken a lot of abx over the years and never had a yeast problem. now i do, and cant escape.

and now im back to wondering if my herxes are just yeast flares afterall.

i was thinking of buying that kolorex too...at this point im desperate.
 

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Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
 
Heya Can't,
I have frequently been in the same position as you.

The is it Lyme or is it a fungus among us, place.

I have had to stop ABX in the past to treat out of control systemic fungus. Diflucan does NOT work for me as an anti-fungal at all.

Nizoral worked fantastic on me, quite a few times. Now that it's gone generic I find that some generics work better than others.

I see Dana is contemplating Nizoral as well. If you ask your doc about it and are going to try; I think I can figure out from the empty bottle I have which generic worked the best.

Good luck you can get rid of this it's just a matter of finding the right thing to do the job.


With lesser cases and while off ABX I have used pau d'arca tea. Do not do this without checking with your doc, though.


Good luck I hope it's better soon. In my case the first time this happened I found the fungus mimicked all my Lyme symptoms. I felt enormously better once it was taken care of.
 

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Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
Back when hubby and I didn't know much about health issues he was being treated for mercury toxicity (a couple of years before the Lyme).

The holistic doc suggested he do a Vitamin C flush. Bought the Vitamin C powder and followed the directions. The diarrhea flushed out yeast hubby didn't know he had.

He got a rash in the groin area -- neither of us knew it was yeast -- tried all sorts of anti-itch creams etc. Eventually, a couple of months later when he went back to the doc he was given some prescription Nizoral cream which cleared the rash right up.

The first week he was taking the oral high dose Vitamin C after the Vitamin C flush test he would come home and go right to bed after supper. After a couple of weeks he started

staying awake and then he had much more energy as long as he took his 12 grams of Vitamin C a day (divided into 4 or 5 doses a day).

Might try increasing your oral Vitamin C if you aren't willing to do the Vitamin C Flush.

Bea Seibert
 

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Posted by tothepoorhouse (Member # 8595) on :
 
I got a bad yeast mouth (black tongue) from taking oral doxy......and what saved me was Theralac. You can buy it online by searching by name.

Worked great for me!
 

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Posted by WildCondor (Member # 434) on :
 
Um, have you tried anti-fungals?
Nystatin swish and swallow, Diflucan?
 

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Posted by ICEiam (Member # 7519) on :
 
My daugher is having what we think is a huge candida problem and her LLMD just put her on Amphotericin B hoping it might take care of it.

Mycelex made her have stomach pain so bad she couldn't stand it. She has been on it before. Hope this will help, it sure did it for my friend.

She also takes, Olive Leaf, Oil of Oregano, Caprilic Acid and probiotics for her yeast. I guess it wasn't enough to keep it away.

Good luck,
 

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Posted by pattiecake (Member # 6424) on :
 
I have had a terrible systemic yeast problem. I am currently taking oil of oregano (oregacyn 450mg) 2 capsules 3 times a day, olive leaf extract (seagate 450mg)2capsules 3 times a day, garlic (kyolic 600mg)1capsule 3 times a day , grapefruit seed extract (Nutri-biotic 125 mg)1 capsule 3 times a day and pau d'arco (Natures way 1.09g) 1 capsule 3 times a day on and off a week.

It is FINALLY almost under control. I have done this intensive treatment for 2 months along with strict diet. I only eat protein, some fruit and lots of low glycemic index veggies...lots of baby green salads, broccoli, green beans, etc. NO SUGAR.

I feel soooo much better.
I got theese recommendations from Dr. Cass Ingrams book "the cure is in the cupboard" and I also added the grapefruit seed extract on my own. When I run out of one of my ingredients and don't take it I feel it almost within a few hours.

My only dilemma is how long do I need to keep this up. I have been doing it now for 2 months. My kids go to Dr. J in Conn. and he said 6 months. It is expensive.

I am off all ABX for my lyme so that is not a factor for me. Not sure if you can take some of this stuff mixed with ABX.

Oh and I take Theralac pro-biotics 2 per day away from all my herbs.

Hope this helps some.
pattiecake
 

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Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
 
thanks,

i guess i should have written what i have been on. More antifungals then abx that is for sure.

Diflucan- 2 months, some of the time with abx

vfend 400mg/day for 2 weeks.

im on therelac- dont feel it really does much. i take one a day since im not on abx

metogenics powder probioitcs (6 times daily) and ultra flora probiotics. I will buy the PB8 this weekend.


I cant take vitamin C or the olive leaf because it burns my bladder something awful. i will try the oregano oil.

i really think ive had this yeast since january and the first gyn missed it as the culture came back in 3 days and im finding it should take 7 :-(

I guess i will know more when the gyn calls me today.
 

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Posted by hopeful123 (Member # 3244) on :
 
i swear by oil of oregano capsules!!
 

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Posted by Bon (Member # 5999) on :
 

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Originally posted by cantgiveupyet:
thanks,

i guess i should have written what i have been on. More antifungals then abx that is for sure.

Diflucan- 2 months, some of the time with abx

vfend 400mg/day for 2 weeks.

im on therelac- dont feel it really does much. i take one a day since im not on abx

metogenics powder probioitcs (6 times daily) and ultra flora probiotics. I will buy the PB8 this weekend.


I cant take vitamin C or the olive leaf because it burns my bladder something awful. i will try the oregano oil.

i really think ive had this yeast since january and the first gyn missed it as the culture came back in 3 days and im finding it should take 7 :-(

I guess i will know more when the gyn calls me today.

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