cantgiveupyet
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I called my gyn office today, and the PA called me back and told me it is still being cultured but is showing a yeast infection. The gyn is out today but will call back tomorrow with a script.
i do the stupid diet except for breakfast...i eat 14 g of carbs a day if that. I guess i will just continue to starve myself.
Im starting to wonder if i just dont have systemic yeast and not lyme at all. Maybe my herx's are yeast and not lyme.
im also taking probiotics 6 times daily and just add caprylic acid (spelling)
actually cant wait to see what this yeast is resistant too!!
I feel like im the only one with this issue too...everyone else seems to be able to do treatment but me.
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luvs2ride
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Hey Can't,
You "Can't give up!"
I am feeling the exact same way. Is Lyme my problem or yeast?
Mine is systemic and harder to eliminate. I also have black yeast which I can find precious little about but the doctor says it is too hard to kill for orals to work, so I will be receiving IV treatment for the yeast starting 5/10/06.
The test he used was High Resolutio Blood Morphology and it was really cool to see.
Maybe you have read my other posts about it, so I won't repeat here.
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cantgiveupyet
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Hi luvs,
i do remember your post. I guess i will make an appt with a holistic dr to get the yeast checked out. I have their email here, i will ask what tests they run etc.
luvs- are you off abx for lyme?
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cantgiveupyet
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Also what digestive enzymes are good for getting the yeast under control?
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I know someone who does oil of oregano drops everyday even though her yeast is under control. I think the added salads would be a good idea...and GARLIC.
I can't seem to tolerate garlic...don't even like it...but maybe it will work for you, can't. Don't give up.
I also bought something called Kolorex from New Zealand that someone here mentioned. I've only taken it for the past two days, so too early to tell.
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hey cangiveup yeast can become resistant to diflucan
maybe ask your doc about another anti-fungal.
I have the same problem and am beginning to think maybe I also am resistant to diflucan. am going to ask about nizoral.
I have an article that says yeast very seldom become resistant to nystatin,which is a good prevnetative but hasn't been effective for killing it for me.
natural supps for yeast are freeze dryed garlic,caprilic acid,olive leaf extract,coconut extra virgin oil,grape seed extract,and oragano oil if your stoamch can handle it.
take care and hang in there
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cantgiveupyet
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thanks everyone,
i will try the salads and see how that goes.
im taking garlic, and caprlic acid and im looking for another probiotic to use. ive also added an immune booster.
my yeast is resistant to diflucan, so i was on Vfend for 2 weeks......guess that didnt work either.
im worn out from all of it, ive taken a lot of abx over the years and never had a yeast problem. now i do, and cant escape.
and now im back to wondering if my herxes are just yeast flares afterall.
i was thinking of buying that kolorex too...at this point im desperate.
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Heya Can't, I have frequently been in the same position as you.
The is it Lyme or is it a fungus among us, place.
I have had to stop ABX in the past to treat out of control systemic fungus. Diflucan does NOT work for me as an anti-fungal at all.
Nizoral worked fantastic on me, quite a few times. Now that it's gone generic I find that some generics work better than others.
I see Dana is contemplating Nizoral as well. If you ask your doc about it and are going to try; I think I can figure out from the empty bottle I have which generic worked the best.
Good luck you can get rid of this it's just a matter of finding the right thing to do the job.
With lesser cases and while off ABX I have used pau d'arca tea. Do not do this without checking with your doc, though.
Good luck I hope it's better soon. In my case the first time this happened I found the fungus mimicked all my Lyme symptoms. I felt enormously better once it was taken care of.
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Back when hubby and I didn't know much about health issues he was being treated for mercury toxicity (a couple of years before the Lyme).
The holistic doc suggested he do a Vitamin C flush. Bought the Vitamin C powder and followed the directions. The diarrhea flushed out yeast hubby didn't know he had.
He got a rash in the groin area -- neither of us knew it was yeast -- tried all sorts of anti-itch creams etc. Eventually, a couple of months later when he went back to the doc he was given some prescription Nizoral cream which cleared the rash right up.
The first week he was taking the oral high dose Vitamin C after the Vitamin C flush test he would come home and go right to bed after supper. After a couple of weeks he started
staying awake and then he had much more energy as long as he took his 12 grams of Vitamin C a day (divided into 4 or 5 doses a day).
Might try increasing your oral Vitamin C if you aren't willing to do the Vitamin C Flush.
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I have had a terrible systemic yeast problem. I am currently taking oil of oregano (oregacyn 450mg) 2 capsules 3 times a day, olive leaf extract (seagate 450mg)2capsules 3 times a day, garlic (kyolic 600mg)1capsule 3 times a day , grapefruit seed extract (Nutri-biotic 125 mg)1 capsule 3 times a day and pau d'arco (Natures way 1.09g) 1 capsule 3 times a day on and off a week.
It is FINALLY almost under control. I have done this intensive treatment for 2 months along with strict diet. I only eat protein, some fruit and lots of low glycemic index veggies...lots of baby green salads, broccoli, green beans, etc. NO SUGAR.
I feel soooo much better. I got theese recommendations from Dr. Cass Ingrams book "the cure is in the cupboard" and I also added the grapefruit seed extract on my own. When I run out of one of my ingredients and don't take it I feel it almost within a few hours.
My only dilemma is how long do I need to keep this up. I have been doing it now for 2 months. My kids go to Dr. J in Conn. and he said 6 months. It is expensive.
I am off all ABX for my lyme so that is not a factor for me. Not sure if you can take some of this stuff mixed with ABX.
Oh and I take Theralac pro-biotics 2 per day away from all my herbs.
Hope this helps some. pattiecake
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cantgiveupyet
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thanks,
i guess i should have written what i have been on. More antifungals then abx that is for sure.
Diflucan- 2 months, some of the time with abx
vfend 400mg/day for 2 weeks.
im on therelac- dont feel it really does much. i take one a day since im not on abx
metogenics powder probioitcs (6 times daily) and ultra flora probiotics. I will buy the PB8 this weekend.
I cant take vitamin C or the olive leaf because it burns my bladder something awful. i will try the oregano oil.
i really think ive had this yeast since january and the first gyn missed it as the culture came back in 3 days and im finding it should take 7 :-(
I guess i will know more when the gyn calls me today.
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i swear by oil of oregano capsules!!
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I cant take vitamin C or the olive leaf because it burns my bladder something awful
Ugggg, sorry about that......Have you tried Ester C ? its easier on everything concerned. Bon
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cantgiveupyet
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Well, i was in the shower and missed the gyn call (ugggh) and she left for the day and wont be back until wed. But i did talk to the PA and im going to be on Nizoral. twice a day for 14 days. I sooo hate antifungals!! She didnt think topical would make a difference.
its the same damn strain!!
And my MRI was NORMAL!!! wohoo.
of course all my questions about the surgery next week will have to wait until wed...ugh.
so everyone pray that this will help me get better.
I think im becoming the fungus.
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Man oh man!
You can't give up!!!!
I'm thinking about you. Hope the new med works for you.
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I don't have anything else to add or try but just wanted to send some support your way! SOrry you are having such a rough time of it.
My NP did say that the probiotics have a better chance of taking hold if not taken at the same time as the caprylic (Sp) acid or other killers or with food because stomach acid can kill them.
She also mentioned the acid/base balance and drinking lemon water.
So many idea and things to try.
Good luck!!!
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cantgiveupyet
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i will start taking all the 'killers' at once so that leaves room for the probiotics during the day. Ive been trying to take them away from meals.
its amazing how far i did come....i realize it now that im back to square one again.
im eating salads with all meals too. something has to work eventually..this is crazy.
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