Thanks GiGi, again you post w/ some of the best info!
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I have some cultured veggies on the way and am looking forward to trying them. Thanks for the great info!
Posted by lymedesign (Member # 8791) on :
Click on the link about the "Incredible Hangover Solution", there is an interesting recipe for young coconut kefir that is good for candida.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Don't you love this website --- I learn something new every time I click into it!
Posted by DeniseS (Member # 7276) on :
With respect to the cultured veggies on this website, just be very careful that you don't have mold allergies!
I had had a question about whether to eat fermented healthy foods (miso, tempeh, cultured pickles etc) and I believe now that they're great for you as long as you're not allergic to molds like I am.
I'm not trying to be a naysayer here but want to save folks from the immune taxing effects of eating something they might be allergic to. My sx of mold allergies were not obvious until I eliminated moldy foods from my diet. Voila, my rashes disappeared. (Mold rashes, not EM rashes.)
I hope that helps someone.
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
Why would the cultured veggies have mold? They are cultured with bacteria.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Cultured vegetables should be prepared like any other food, in a clean kitchen: with clean organic vegetables, clean tools, clean glass container, and clean hands.
Posted by sofylyme (Member # 7900) on :
Mold??? I dont know if any of the following is true but will tell it for whats its worth.
I bought organic cabbage, boiled everything I used and made sauerkraut.
Shortly after starting eating it I went completely down the hill and couldnt remember how to get up and where to go if I did.
After quite some time it finally dawned on me that perhaps the sauerkraut played a part so I stopped. I did not get better immediately.
Several weeks went by and I thought about yeast so stopped all salads afraid of unseen mold on the greens and even the fermented Braggs natural vinegar.
I also remembered to start eating my xylitol mints several times a day.
After 3 months of barely functioning on Dec 1 I had an abrupt turn around. I suspect fungus/yeast was the issue.
Often when you buy cabbage it has had the outer leaves removed and who knows if mold was growing on it. Ive certainly seen what was mold on veggies in the produce dept.
If you are very sensitive to fungus almost any fresh veggie in the dept could be contaminated cus if junps around and you cant always see. it.
From now on its frozen veggies for me. They are usually picked and frozen right away so they dont sit around and take days to get shipped which invited nasty stuff to start growing.
Yup, Im afraid of that stuff now and it makes it easy to restrict my diet even more than it already was.
I buy one fresh thing and thats romaine which I smear with almond or cashew butter cuz I can only push so much chicken & fish down my throat. The butters seem to fill that void for starches. Meat protein & veggies just dont quell my hunger not to mention I need the butters just to try and keep on enough weight so the wind doesnt blow me away
Tomorrow I might feel completely different but today my brain is working good enough to write this and this morning I walked the dog for 20min at a brisk pace.
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
Sofylyme, how did you make the Sauerkraut? What cultures did you add? or did you just make it with salt?
Vitamin K contained in many cabbage type vegetables is an anticoagulant. Are you taking a blood thinner?
I dont believe I have an allergy to nuts cuz I eat the same one every day and when I was feeling so good last summer and then this spring & early summer I was still eating them.
Ive known people with nut allergy and saw what happened to them when they accidently got a trace of nut in their system.
Im not having that kind of reaction. As much nut stuff that I eat every day Id been dead by now. Ive been eating them for years.
I do not eat anything with peanuts.
Posted by DeniseS (Member # 7276) on :
My mold allergy doc (Dr M) told me not to eat anything that was cultured: salt "pickles" included. This doc has an excellent reputation and several others on this board have mentioned seeing this doc.
I'm not clear on the diff betw mold, yeast and bacteria. All I know is that when I eat the mold-free diet this doc recommends I stopped having bloating at all.
I tested allergic to many foods (granted the blood test has more false positives than the skin test) and I had much less bloating after eliminating the foods. Many of the foods were ones that I'd never noticed any overt rxn to.
Also, as I understand it the cultured foods are just the veggies mixed with salt without any bacteria, enzymes etc added. So there might likely be all kinds of things cultured in these foods which might be fine for some folks but for me miso, tempeh, soy sauce and salt pickles are out. I feel much better when I don't eat them.
It also maybe have something to do with the fact that I used to eat a reasonable amount of these foods right around the time when my gut was really leaky. Soooo, I expect that I might have developed the allergies at that time.
We all have to keep open minds to what our own bodies, experiences and intuition tell us. If cultured veggies work for you, then go for it. They just don't work for me.
My $0.02 in case it helps someone. Denise
Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :
UP!!
Posted by Kayda (Member # 10565) on :
I used to be able to eat fermented veggies & Apple Cider Vinegar, but eventually I couldn't tolerate them when the yeast got bad.
My allergist advised me not to eat anything pickled or fermented or with mold. This was such a blow to me because of the wonderful Lactobacillus & Acidophilus present in sauerkraut. It comes from the cabbage leaves. (sorry, lyme brain here, it's the good "bugs" similar to yogurt cultures). There are also lots of good enzymes. It's very, very healthy.
I know several people who started eating cultured veggies and had their health turn around for the better!
Every once in a while I try some to see if I can tolerate it (usually get nasal congestion, bloated stomach). One day I hope it can be a regular part of my diet.