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Posted by cjnelson (Member # 12928) on :
 
I get the most excruiciating pain in my right leg from my ankle and now expanding all the way up to my knee.

Like a charlie horse but in the front, over the peroneal nerve and corresponding muscles.

it is like the worst muscle cramp, pulling my foot to the side and the pain varies from an 8-10, waking me from a dead sleep.

my leg will feel tired the rest of the day but it seems to only happen at night, during sleep.

I feel it is part of a herx bc it is expanding where it use to only get my foot and ankle and part of my leg and only last a minute or so.

now it extends all the way into my knee and lasts for up to 10 minutes before releasing.

i am also getting more symptomatic in my elbows, NEW - dont ever remember that even in the past, both my knees, my other ankle, my wrist and one finger that kills me!

The pain is horrible.....it is getting to the point that I fear it wont release and is going to put me down, in the bed, completely.

Is this typical? Especially only at night?

[ 22. October 2007, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: cjnelson ]
 

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Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 
Oh yeah I use to get that all the time front, back,& the foot too.
 

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Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
cj,
may i suggest that you edit your topic as you forgot to mention 2 key words OF PAIN.


then you'll get the members with pain during sleep..

to edit, go to right of your nickname, cLICK pencil/paper icon WHICH OPENS UP SUBJECT LINE AND BODY TEXT.


go to subject heading and insert

why IS PAIN predominately during sleep? when done, click edit send. you'll get more readers/repliers this way.
 

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Posted by roro (Member # 13383) on :
 
maybe its calcium/magnesium deficiency? try a mineral supplement with both and vitamin C to help it absorb.
 

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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I take Mega Multi Mineral by Solaray. It got rid of my hand and foot cramps in 24-36 hrs....never to return again as long as I take one every day.
 

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Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
 
If your not already,,,I agree with Roro and I think YOU need to try some calcium and magnesium.

It sure works wonders for me,,,takes a while to all kick in so dont jump ship for awhile after taking them.

IF you are already taking some,,,better inspect the quality,,,,ie,,,try a different brand. And for crying out loud,,,dont waste your money buying cheap Walmart brand either(store brand) cause that stuff IS worthless or worse!!

I use Citrical for calcium,,,the stuff with vit D in it. And GOOD magnesium from my pharmacy,,,ask for the BEST,,,doesnt cost MUCH more to go first class with THIS stuff!!(lots of junk magn. out there!!)

Otherwise see if a restless leg drug from your doc might help relax a bit. Another trick my daughter does is to take a couple tylenol just before bed time!! Helps her!!

Otherwise there is some powdered stuff you can take at bed time, that relaxes quite well...cant remember the name but if you need contact me and I will look it up!!being--just don--
 

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Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
 
To reduce the pain and help you sleep, I would ask your doctor about Zanaflex (generic is tizanidine). It's an antispasmadic that reduces pain and helps sleep.

As for cause, my first thought is that it is circulation related. That would explain why it is happening at night when you aren't moving your leg and it's level with your body.

It could also be muscle pain, and the lack of movement allows the muscles to stiffen at night. If that's the case, the magnesium is important as is making sure you are hydrated. Zanaflex will also help if it's muscle.
 

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Posted by cjnelson (Member # 12928) on :
 
Lymetoo

I looked up the Multi Mineral by Solway and they have:

1. Multi Mineral w/o Iron
2. Mulit Mineral with Asporotates

I have no idea what asporates are and not geting good results with my search this am - Im sure its MY brain though!!!

Justdon

Can i go to the pharmacy and ask for better quality Mag? Is it rx?

Aniek

Zanaflex appears to be rx too is that correct?

Of important note on Zanaflex, warnings state DO NOT TAKE WITH CIPRO!!!!!! thought that was worthy of sharing

Thanks for all the good info...
 

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Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
 
Yes, zanaflex is prescription.

I actually was on cipro for a short period while on zanaflex. My pharmacist and doctor both said it was ok if I took them at least 2 hours apart. It's that they can't be metabolized in the liver at the same time.

But nobody should take both without talking to a doctor.
 

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Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
 
Two reasons.

Natural cortisol levels are lowest at night, especially between 1-6 am. Cortisol reduces inflammation.

Lymph system doesn't drain as well at night, when it can't use gravity and muscles are not moving.

Ouch. Some good pain management suggestions here.
 

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Posted by luvs2ride (Member # 8090) on :
 
ditto bejoy and ditto the calcium/magnesium suggestions.

Mag eliminated my leg/foot cramps completely.

Luvs
 

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Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
 
Cj, your post asked why this happens at night. I was hoping someone might explain this.

My headache and stiff neck gets worse at night. Either can't fall asleep or stay asleep even with ambien.

Sometimes seems to start as soon as I lay down and wondering if it's because it's more pressure in that position.

Hope I'm not getting this thread off topic since I don't have the same symptoms as you. But I've wondered why this happens at night.
 

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Posted by cjnelson (Member # 12928) on :
 
Not at all Marz, I get other symtoms to flare but my leg/cramping is just teh most dominant if you will. I get frustrated waking up screaming

and crying almost everynight. it is rare i dont anymore, so it is just forefront, masks all the other pain, i guess, but it is all there 2.

hope the thread helped you!
 

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Posted by lymeflox (Member # 10543) on :
 
cjnelson:
Are you taking or have taken in the last two years cipro or levaquin?
Those symptoms are identical to the ones caused by fluoroquinolone antibiotics. Same pain, same pattern of behaviour through the day.
Hope that is not your case and that it resolves soon.
 

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Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :
 
Are you taking Potassium as well? Are you getting enough fluids? Dehydration can also cause the same symptoms, and I recall having this (although mine went down to my toes, and wrapped up to my sciatic area).
 

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Posted by IMHisda (Member # 6998) on :
 
I had those symptoms too and was prescribed Quinine Sulfate for the muscle cramping but really helped me was making sure I had minerals every day. I took Multi-mins from Biotics. Whenever I'm on that it goes away. If I don't have any with my I try to eat some banana and it seems to work. Sometimes I think we feel more pain because it's easy to focus on right before sleep but I think it might have something to do with lying down. I seem to get ankle pain usually when lying down.
 

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Posted by AP (Member # 8430) on :
 

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Originally posted by Marz:
Cj, your post asked why this happens at night. I was hoping someone might explain this.

My headache and stiff neck gets worse at night. Either can't fall asleep or stay asleep even with ambien.

Sometimes seems to start as soon as I lay down and wondering if it's because it's more pressure in that position.

Hope I'm not getting this thread off topic since I don't have the same symptoms as you. But I've wondered why this happens at night.

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