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Posted by scottie (Member # 9956) on :
 
Hi All,

I had been in treatment with oral and IV abx for 2 years (minimal improvement)and the last abx I took was levaquin which seems to have fried my central nervous system because I can no longer tolerate abx. I've done herbs in the past and am now seeing a chinese doctor who treats with chinese medicine and acupuncture....but I'm not doing well and even seem to be slipping backward. Does anyone have any thoughts on what I can do next. I'm very scared. Thank you.
 
Posted by swedish lyme sufferer (Member # 14579) on :
 
Hi,
I am sorry to hear you are not well.
Have you tried Fluconazole?
That is treatment for candida, so it is not an abx, BUT
my LLMD claims it is one of the best treatments for Lyme!
Esp. Neurolyme, it goes directly to the brain.
It sort of cuts something so the borrelia can not multiyply or whatever....

I think you should try this if you have not already.

Hope you are better soon!
 
Posted by swedish lyme sufferer (Member # 14579) on :
 
Also, some people are Rifing,
others doing the vit C/salt protocol.

I do not know how good these are, but many people seem to get better.
 
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
 
Take a look at this website. i have barely read into it. Just thought i would share

http://www.lymefree.com/
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Homeopathy might be an option. Bejoy posted she used Deseret Biologicals with success. Hiker53
 
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
 
deseret bio website

http://www.desbio.com/series-therapy.html
 
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
 
Another thought...Bee venom

Search it on this site. Some folks have had some good sucess.
 
Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
 
Anything besides antibiotics is considered experimental, but if you are in the mood to experiment, there are some good suggestions in this post:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=062900#000000
 
Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Scottie, have you considered consulting with an ART practitioner or a good kinesiologist (muscle tester) to determine what herbs/ treatments may be beneficial for you at this time?

It seems like most of the people here who have success stories with alternative treatments also had some help from a `muscle testing' practitioner.

This might be something to consider to get you out of the `confusion' state and on the right track with treatment. [Smile]
 
Posted by ArtistDi (Member # 2297) on :
 
Scottie,

I had a similar circumstance happen to me years
ago, which prevented me from taking antibiotics,
supplements, etc. I had to see a drug allergist
at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston--one of the few in the country. She determined that
my body was pushed into an autoimmune state from a drug cockatail that I took. It caused burning
sensations throughout my body, and later, seizure
activity.

After countless doctors and alternative protocols, I finally saw a llmd who seemed to understand what happened to me. I had to go on
steroids plus low dose pulsed antibiotics via
IV to recover more. I had a vasculitis-like
injury and it has taken me many years to achieve
the health I currently have.

I know the views on steroids here, but it was
my last resort. I was tested by the neuro in
NYC and now take smaller doses of IVIG as well
for nerve damage.

You might want to get assessed for an autoimmune
type injury or state. My local llmd says she has seen other patients go into autoimmune from
drugs themselves.

Since you are from MA like myself and if you would like to know the name of the excellent drug allergist I see, please e-mail me.

Best.
Artist
 
Posted by ByronSBell 2007 (Member # 11496) on :
 
Why ABX did you take by IV and how much?
 
Posted by ArtistDi (Member # 2297) on :
 
Hi Byron. I don't know if you are asking me or
Scottie, but in my case, I can only tolerate
IV antibiotics. My drug allergist said the vein
is less reactive than the gut. When I would try
orals, the burning would resume throughout my
body. Not good for me, and a precursor for
seizure activity.

I took IV doxy because I could tolerate titrated
doses and because it would combat the lyme,
Erlichia, mycoplasma pneumoniae I had.
 
Posted by Mtgirl (Member # 13278) on :
 
This message is for Artist. Sorry the PM is not working!
Can you email me more information about your drug allergist? I am allergic to sulfas, zithromax, all picc line plastics and dressing adhesives, and now diflucan. Right now my LLMD has taken me off abx for two weeks while I am fighting thrush. Oh the good times! My LLMD wants me to see Dr. J in SC as he has way more experience with the "difficult cases." Any direction would be helpful. My email is [email protected].

Thanks!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 9189) on :
 
For any type of allergies, access www.naet.com
NAET is an allergy elimination technique that works for many types of allergies. IME about 80% of the time it actually eliminates the allergy.

There are specific blended herbals for bacteria, made by www.inno-vita.com and www.systemicformulas.com

And mountaingirl if you are interested in alt treatment in your state, I personally know a nurse / Naturopathic doctor in Parkersburg. Her daughter got lyme about 18 years ago and Bonnie was told that it did not exist in WV. She proved the "authorities" very wrong with her research and found some very effective ways to treat her daughter. So post if you would like to meet her. I have known and worked off and on with her for about 6 years.
 
Posted by D Bergy (Member # 9984) on :
 
Using a Rife machine is one option. There are many users at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/

I am leery of the Salt-C thing. And I use my fair share of unapproved experimental treatments. I do not know of anyone who has had exceptional results with this, and it has harmed a few people.

I would use Salt-C as a treatment of last resort. But that is just my personal opinion.

My wife and myself use Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS), and I think it is far safer than Salt-C. Although neither has been tested thoroughly. If your stomach is trashed from antibiotics, I would not recommend MMS. It can be hard on the stomach.

There are lots of alternative methods, but these are the only ones I am familiar with. Pick one you are comfortable with from all of the good posts, and ideas.

D Bergy
 
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
 
You could try essential oils. There are posts archived here by Farah. Hardynaka also rubbed essential oils on her skin.

I'm just dipping my toes into essential oils, so to speak, slowly, trying to get more information about safety. They seem to give me good results.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
There are herbal protocols - Cowden, Buhner, Zhang, etc.

Some people have found that they are useful.
 
Posted by skimpbiz (Member # 4433) on :
 
Sparkle,

What are you experiencing on the Cowden protocall thus far? Any progress?
 


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