I have been getting this thing where I am getting visible purple veins. I don't know if I would define them as "spider" veins or not.
I did get a few spider veins when this started, out of nowhere. Then, the other ones started coming on my legs. They are a little redder than normal spider veins, but still purplish too. They are not very well-defined (they look a little "blurred" under the skin). But they are there.
It's not just like when you are cold and your capillaries look blue-ish; these don't really come and go like that.
But I am starting to get them on my calves, ankles , feet, and "love handles" now. They started on the thighs and buttocks.
They are not really really well-defined, like I said, but when I pull my skin taught (my skin has also gotten less "elastic") you can see them much better. They are very tiny.
Anyone have theories about this?
I am on Mepron, Zithromax, Plaquenil, and Amoxy.
This started before my Mepron/Zith treatment, but got dramatically worse after it. I also started beta blockers for POTS/dysautonomia around this time.
I am just not sure if they could mean Bartonella, or are more of a, "don't worry about it, sickness manifests in all sorts of ways" thing.
I have been diagnosed with Bart, but right now am supposed to just be working on the Babesia.
If you all think this is Bartonella, is there an antibiotic I should add to my mix? Maybe I could drop the Amoxy and add something different? Bactrim? Rifampin?
If this is indeed Bartonella, I just really want to treat it now. Should I?
Sorry, I have a million questions!
Thank you...
Posted by wantabe (Member # 14703) on :
Same thing happened to me after starting treatment for Lyme.
Search "spider veins" to see my post and replies... I haven't learned to link yet...
Yes, mine is Bart.
LLMD started me on iv rifampin 600 and the marks have stopped, but have not gone away.
Wishing you health Posted by ANON (Member # 14992) on :
Hi,
I have also noticed this. I suspect it's related to Bartonella, as I never had this problem before. It seemed to worsen with treatment, so maybe it's exacerbated by herxes.
Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
The first that that came to mind is Bartonella or BLO, consider investigating. If you feel the urge and can't bare it anymore, get tested through Fry Labs, otherwise, a clinical consult with a doctor trained in co-infections and Lyme Disease complex, would be best.
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
Bart gave me these, as well as petechiae and blood-red
stretchmark-type things
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
Hossier51.You have percribed exactly what I have.
My son has them more than I do .He has them on his buttock and his back .Me and my daughter in the thighs.
Ok by just loocking at the picture My sons DR confirmed VEFG of BART!
Still waiting from FRy for the answer of lab work for my daughter.I already have on top of this BART henselae as MY daughter too.
I beilvie that I have bart and BLO at the same time.Will see!!!
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
adamm and Alv,
Are yours very tiny? And do they not always "web" out like spider veins?
But mine are tiny, almost like little short rods in some places.
Posted by tickalert (Member # 7033) on :
I have the same thing. I always thought they were due to a coagulation problem. Could this be the case? Not sure if I have Bart...probable.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I am pretty sure this is hookworm aka clm (cutaneous larva migrans) Type this in to your search engine and you will find plenty of info from e-medicine.
From my personal experience, I have gotten rid of a load of worms and parasites. Hookworms, filarial worms,and thread worms,just to name a few, and am still working on it.
I really believe this is a major part of lyme disease. Hope this helps.
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
Hossier 51 !
YEs mine are exactly as you perscribe.
My last test 2 days ago showed that I have Mucoplasma and LYME as active .The rest eithere are in remision or their load is very low and my body is not stuck with them.But they might come back again as it ehrlichia and mucoplasma did all the time.We will see.Now I am on levaquin and flagyl and azithromax sure HH capsules( is meant to kill BLO also) .
But dealing with lyme and mucoplasma.Now I am covered as a SPIDERMAN with green veins all over my BODY!Not very noticeble but I never had them at least not 10years ago and my little "Worms " are red or purple very small and you have to pay attention and you will notice them....came out since my lyme became active.
That was 2006 and after and the covered my body completly!
It looks as BARTONELLA is in remission.First time since 14 months.( I know that is still there in my jaw).
My foot do not hurt like before are way BETTER!
LAST year (3 years in a row though )I could not walk and I felt like I had CONCRETE BOOTS on my feet all the time and could not breath going upstairs.
Posted by lymemommy (Member # 12495) on :
For me at least, the little tiny veins are bart.
Other than a little batch of them on my ankle, I didn't have them until I started taking rifampin, then a few very tiny ones (about a 1/2 inch long) appeared on my thighs.
I test pos. for two strains of bart and myco, but negative for lyme.
My husband, who has bart and lyme, is loaded with stretch marks, big angry looking ones, but no teeny tiny veins like I got.
hope that helps. kp
Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
Yes I have exactly what you have and they apeared right after I started RIFAMPIN!
Same with my son but for my daughter they started when I challenged her with HH capsules and she reacted and herxed right away.
Muscle testing again shows MUCO and BART !!
Muscle testing showed for my son also BART AND MUCO.Even though he does not have stretch marks but Covered complelty on this tiny "Worms " and stripes.
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