Thank you, I saw a mention of this somewhere else, but couldn't find it anywhere!
Posted by LittleLymie19 (Member # 15610) on :
Is this brand new, or has this been available for a while?
Posted by JKMMC09 (Member # 15795) on :
Thanks for posting this. Dr. B states in the beginning that every section has been updated..? Am I missing something, or are these basically identical to the other, 15th edition guidelines?
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
JKMM - they look pretty much the same to me.
I did take a pretty good look.
Posted by lymednva (Member # 9098) on :
I looked the new one over, with my copy of the old one also open to compare. I did find some subtle differences in them, but they are not major.
For instance he has added Transfer Factor as an additional supplement, not in the required list. I know the LLMD's in my area are now using it.
That was the main thing that popped out at me, but I didn't do a line-by-line analysis.
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
if you notice any other changes, would you let the rest of us know what they are SPECICIALLY.
i went to ilads site; it doesn't have 08 burrascano's guidelines there at all! wonder why??
Posted by DebAz (Member # 18039) on :
Hi Guys
Ok I did a side by side comparison. I did not read word for word and just compared the document about paragraph by paragraph and may have missed things.>So this may not be exact.. But here is my list of differences.
Differences in newest Guidelines compared to 2005 Guidelines
Page 25 26 and 27 Added section "Sorting out the co infections"
Page 28 New info given to get supplements from additional places
In all areas of Supplements there has been various changes and additions to each description and i advice people to re read the full supplement section as well the following additions to the whole supplement section:
Basic Daily Regimin NT Factor Added
Alternative Treatments CITICHOLINE Added
Immune Support Transfor factor Added
For Fatigue Took out "For Fatiuge" section
Other Optional Vitamin D Added
Page 31 "Lyme Disease Rehabilitaion" is rewitten and added to
Posted by JKMMC09 (Member # 15795) on :
Thanks Deb,
Its hard to believe in 3 years (last guidelines were in 2005!) those are the only "updates"...hmm..
Posted by billclo (Member # 12939) on :
And he barely mentions Tindazole as being probably more effective than Flagyl, with fewer side effects.
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
He mentions Flexcreme (Flex Cream) by Pharmanex as great for body pain. I was considering it for my daughter but you can only buy it from a consultant.
That really sucks. Anyone try it? Buy it without MLM?
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
Does Dr B have some financial connection with Pharmanex ?
Deb you are consistently amazing. Thanks for all your effort.
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Thanks to Dr. B for still helping us, even though he retired a couple of years ago.
He is so MUCH appreciated.
These guidelines have saved lives over the years... and given many non-LLMD's a base to build on so they could help folks too.
I know they kept ME alive when there were NO doctors around here.
Thanks Deb for sharing.
OH.. and if folks want MORE info... and MORE studies to be used as a basis for the next set of guidelines...
Be SURE to work to get our Congressional bill passed so some of the funding for research will come OUR way rather than going directly into the ducks pockets.
The billions wasted by the IDiots in research and on vaccines, etc that could have HELPED us with our disease is horrible.
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
big thanks deb for comparing 05 and 08, and your summary!!
hard to believe you're a new member with about 500 posts already in 2 months!! Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
up; buried on page 2...
i was sent dr. b's 08 guidelines thru my home email and i added deb's COMPARISON 05 TO 08 NOTES with it too help them as well!
suggestion to forward them both and dr. b's supplemental list
[ 29. December 2008, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: bettyg ]
Posted by migs (Member # 16496) on :
There are also some difference in the section where he discusses different antibiotics. Telithromycin and a couple others are mentioned.
Posted by DebAz (Member # 18039) on :
And that is different.. Boy you would think i would catch that one since that is the med i am on.. What page is that difference on.. can you let me know
THANKS D
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
to all who copied my newbie package links into their word ms program,
please delete 05 link and add deb's new 08 info, her comparisons, and supplements info!! thanks.
i updated my newbie package link now; finally the lymenet system would accept this edit, and it now shows 08 on the table of contents and actual links, etc! Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
up for richie and others who didn't know this like we all didn't!!
Posted by richedie (Member # 14689) on :
Rather than no coffee, he now says no caffein.
Not sure why he is still so strong against starches. That is a myth that starches will progress a candida infection or cause one. I know people who cured a candida infection with a vegan diet based on starchy foods such as potatoes, brown rice, etc. The science is there to support it and my LLMD agrees with me.
My doctor's main requirement with food is to eat well and avoid junk such as anything refined, overly processed, sugar, etc. I stick to whole foods, grains, potatoes, veggies, fruits and some organic chicken and some organinc eggs along with plenty of nuts, seeds and other odds and ends. I think I do fine and have avoided a yeast infection just fine. Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
since debaz started this, she did a COMPARISON OF 05 VS. 08 GUIDELINES ...
she listed them above; someone was looking for this post lately.
up so whoever might be able to see it and compare.
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
how come they won't come up for me?
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
What changes were made to the rehabilitation?
Posted by joahsark (Member # 20598) on :
The link appears to be broken, even directly off the webpage. Anyone know how to get it?
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
ILADS Lyme Disease Treatment Guidelines Summary by ILADS
Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses by Joseph J. Burrascano Jr, MD
Guidelines for the management of Lyme disease by ILADS
More Lyme Treatment Guideline Links from National Guideline Clearinghouse
* Summary of ILADS Guidelines for Lyme Disease * Summary of IDSA Guidelines for Lyme Disease * Lyme Disease Guideline Comparison
Posted by Siciliano (Member # 15920) on :
Hi, DebAz, I tried to click onto your link for the guidelines by Dr. Burrascano and it does not work for me.
It says it is "not found". Am I doing something wrong?
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