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Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
A new film about Lyme disease is being produced and will be out , hopefully in a few months. You can find the trailer at http://www.undertheeightball.com/

The producer Tim Hall was compelled to make this film due to his sister's sickness and death from Lyme disease
 

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Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
That's pretty good; I especially like the part where all the other diseases are shown that we get misdiagnosed with, then LYME flashes at the end of it.

I think the conspiracy theory can take away from our credibility though; this was one of the key points Pam Weintraub made in the Live Chat the other night.
 

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Posted by mtree (Member # 14305) on :
 
thank you for posting this...
mtree
 

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Posted by soonermom (Member # 14494) on :
 
Thanks for posting this!

When I read the section "about the film", it talked about how numerous people that his sister knew were being diagnosed with MS/ALS/etc. and how this could not just be a coincidence.

I have the same kind of situation going on around me and there is no way that it is just coincidental!
 

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Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
I have to disagree with not being able to raise logical questions. Conspiracies are very very real and we need to expose them but we cannot expose them if we are told not to talk about them.

We have been told for years not to talk about government involvement in Lyme disease and where has it gotten us?I have come to the conclusion that anyone who discourages people from speaking their concerns is either ignorant of free speech and the rights of Americans to keep their government in line...OR they are complicit in the coverups. It is possible that people believe that keeping quiet helps us gain credibility but I can see that doing so keeps the crimes under the rug and allowed to perpetuate.
 

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Posted by doc (Member # 14471) on :
 
I think the point of that is if a movie or other media articial focuses on the conspericy issue it losses credabilty. not that we as a people shouldnt ask qustions. Doc
 

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Posted by Tracy9 (Member # 7521) on :
 
Right, you have to do things in a sensible order, I think. Pamela Weintraub is very well versed on most issues surrounding Lyme, and I believe her judgement is right on target.

If we wave the conspiracy theory flag, we often get dismissed as crazies. We need to first focus on getting out the awareness of this disease and getting proper treatment guidelines to be universally recognized and accepted.

Then people can dig a little deeper,. It is just the reality. We need to do what is best to get ourselves well and this disease addressed. Theories about how it all began are contraversial, unproven, and can wait.

First we need to figure out how to treat this disease and be seen as credible sick people with a real illness, not something that perhaps secret government scientists sprayed in the air.
 

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Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
I think it's fine to raise awareness. That is very important however when there are facts to bring up...in this case in a movie....then it certainly needs to be brought out before too many more people suffer and die. This whole pandemic is much bigger than just Shapiro, Fish, and the IDSA.

They are not afraid of retribution because there are larger powers behind them that are supporting their actions and controlling research. Basically those in control are allowing the disease to pass through the population and it is necessary that this be exposed. Questions need to be asked.

If you want to learn more about controlled opposition Groups and the tactics used to prevent progress in health activism then you can visit my blog and look under "Activism Concerns"
www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com
 

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Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
We've ignored these issues for 31 years, and we're still looked at as a bunch of crazies. We've nothing to lose. I would direct all those who are skeptical to EightLegsBad's lyme-rage.info, as well as the work of Garth Nicholson and Leonard Horowitz. There are mountains of well-established facts out there indicating that the rabbit hole goes far deeper than we are being led to believe.
 

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Posted by WeRAll1 (Member # 18674) on :
 
Just alone.. The idea and concept of this sort
of presentation .. is bringing awareness to many and
the public overall who are not aware..

Its a Good thing.... no matter the content if you ask me.

Attention and Awareness will need to come first.. and we need that
 

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Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
Actually, for the most part, I think those in government/corporations/universities etc...who may be involved in allowing lyme and the many other tickborne coinfections,to pass through the population......are the ones labeling activists who pose questions....as conspiracy theorists.

Think about it. What better way to take attention of the perpetrators and what they are doing and place it on the victims(in a negative way) who are seeking truth.

We musn't let anyone talk us out of speaking about our concerns. We all know of certain"activists' who present themselves in a very bizarre manner. They are the ones who discredit the lyme movement and it should be questioned as to what side they are really on.

We don't know the exact details concerning this issue but the picture will never become clearer if we do not do research and ask questions. One of the tactics of disinformants or controlled opposition is to ask for definite proof for things there is no definite proof for YET.

For example...let's say that Plum I. is involved....do you think they are willingly going to give over any incriminating documents?

We need to be firm, persistent, calm and show our sincere concern. We don't have to act like hysterical nuts. Most of us don't act that way anyway. If we retain our composure and appear logical(with certain facts to back us up)then sooner or later it will be the perpetrators who appear to lack credibility
 

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Posted by eric555 (Member # 18343) on :
 
Good Movie Idea !!!


Something for All to Think About, especially if its True.


Just want to know when its coming to Philly, PA ?


 

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Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
 
I am very sorry for the recent loss of his beautiful sister, Lori. My sincere condolences to the family.

I wonder if she got aggressive treatment for lyme disease? Did she get IV abx? I hope that at least they were able to try everything to save her.
 

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Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 

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Originally posted by daystar1952:
I have to disagree with not being able to raise logical questions. Conspiracies are very very real and we need to expose them but we cannot expose them if we are told not to talk about them.

We have been told for years not to talk about government involvement in Lyme disease and where has it gotten us?I have come to the conclusion that anyone who discourages people from speaking their concerns is either ignorant of free speech and the rights of Americans to keep their government in line...OR they are complicit in the coverups. It is possible that people believe that keeping quiet helps us gain credibility but I can see that doing so keeps the crimes under the rug and allowed to perpetuate.

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