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Originally posted by R62:
This will not eliminate the need to check out detox pathways will it?

Genova Comprehensive Detox panel and or methylation panel?

Do you all think those are necessary as well?

Thank you all, Robin

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Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
 
Are any of you doing the drops with biophotons?

I am wondering how it would work to take the drops, then use light on the gates, and also length of the spine for organ accupuncture points, along with a solar plexus vial of global blood RNA/DNA.

I'm getting good results that way with generic allergy substance vials, and this might give custom made drops a boost as well.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Is there a primer on these merdians and gates? I think if I could envision that clearly, I would get half this info! Are these the points you have posted, bejoy? I look up acupunture meridians and the human body is so full of them I get brain collapse in over drive. I am so sorry to be so dense. I wise there was a primer section with all the homeopaths and such listed, applicable meridians. I am such a jumble at this point. Robin
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
"I am wondering how it would work to take the drops, then use light on the gates, and also length of the spine for organ accupuncture points, along with a solar plexus vial of global blood RNA/DNA.'


No, Bionic works at a different level. AI works at DNA. The drops are extremely, very, very effective - you would not want to add any light to them. Not recommended.

Since antibiotics would deliver a totally different information to the body, it is not recommended that any meds are done, except when they are very necessary (blood pressure, heart, etc.)

Take care.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
agree with gigi. The drops will likely cause a reaction all by their lonesome. From what I understand, the drops are essentially deeper information--as gigi said-- bundled with photons, so treatment with the bionic or other photon therapy would be redundant or unnecessary.

relapse shouldn't be a concern, because the drops are removing barriers to permanent wellness. Regardless of what stage you are in treatment, it seems like it would be make any treatment thereafter less repetitive, more productive
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
We were told by AI to put "all thoughts or worries about any infections peacefully to rest".
They do a broad range of testing of everything that might have been a problem at one time. That is also what I find testing. That is what my ART practitioner also finds -- nothing. An occasional metal. We are now working on chemical toxins - which, we are told, are the worst problem for everybody because of the constant exposure to so many.

We have got to clean up our act - us and our environment if we want to live a good life. That's where it started. Not with Lyme. I am convinced of that.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Jewel (Member # 18878) on :
 
Is it safe to use a rife machine when doing the AI treatment? Or should I first do the AI teatment and then use the rife?

Thanks,
J
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I am on round 2 of the drops. 2 nights now I have had very vivid dreams which others have also reported. My second round showed all chemical toxis (5 of 7) and mercury. I found it hard to believe that mercury did not show up in the first round and there it was in round 2. Too early to report whether or not this treatment is working but I do feel it has strong impacts on the body and remain optimistic.
 

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Posted by Ocean (Member # 3496) on :
 
I have a few questions for those of you doing (or have done) the drops.

Do ou know what they are composed of? What do they taste like? How many weeks do you take them?

And is there a page of testimonials that you could direct me to??

I'm definitely very interested in this, need to decide if I want to try this or take the abx that will likely be prescribed at my LLMD's visit next month (I've never taken abx for Lyme, rarely have taken them in my life).

Oh, last question (I promise!), have you noticed any herx symptoms, besides fatigue???

Thanks!

Ocean
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
All information can be found on the AI website and in many of my earlier posts. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&langpair=de|en&u=http://www.allergie-immun.de/

They also will send you their study of some 200 people detailing the results if you e-mail them.

There are some testimonials on the website.

Take care.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
ocean-

there might be very mild, almost indiscernable mineral-y taste. as I understand them, they're just water drops bundled with photons carrying the desired information.

I didn't herx in the traditional sense. Similar to when I used the bionic.. I just got tired. A few nights I was sweating up the joint, but that's about the only thing besides fatigue.

However, I was releasing metals. Binders were testing pretty consistently, so I know the allergies were allowing my body to release toxins it's been holding onto for who knows how long..
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
How did you all get turned on to this firm in the first place? Doctor referral?
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
I'm very interested in doing the Allergie-Immun test/treatments, however, I'm wondering when is the best time to do it.

I'm currently working with an ART practitioner and taking one antibiotic (Bicillin), many supplements, several "Healers Who Share" vibrational remedies and a few medications.

I'm planning to go to Germany for Bionic treatment in about four months.

Would now be a good time to do the AI treatment, given everything else I'm on? Or should I wait until stopping the antibiotic or meds, or perhaps not until AFTER Bionic treatment?

I hoping that some of you who are currently doing AI might have an opinion on this.

Thanks!
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Seekhelp, I learned about Allergie-Immun from Gigi as I'm sure everyone else here did.

AndrewInCa - had I known about it last year, I would have done Allergie-Immun before I went to Germany for Bionic treatment.

Blockages get cleared, your body is retrained to release the toxins/metals it forgot how to or nerver knew how to let go of and your body stops attacking you when you eat what should be harmless foods.

Makes sense to me that all this would make biophoton treatments all the more successful as there would be far less to deal with.

The Allergie-Immun remedy works on a different level then meds and supplements and hopefully Gigi will come along and explain more about that.

I believe in an earlier post she shared a conversation she had with the folks at Allergie-Immun and they suggest taking only meds that are absolutely necessary.

Hope that helps some and good luck with your plans to do A I and your trip to Germany.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Just curious as to the likelihood of eliminating multiple chemical allergies....
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
When doing the Allergie-Immun program, is it necessary to avoid exposure substances you are allergic to?

Just thinking of NAET and other programs where you avoid the allergen (like certain foods) for a certain period following the treatment.

Also, do you avoid anything before you do the testing?

How long do you take the drops for? Sorry if these have been answered elsewhere. I'm continuing my reading.

Thanks. I'm considering doing this.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
We got our third test results today. We find that our body does not react the way it should to 10 chemical substances, 6 reaction-relevant foods (thiw could be ingredients, oils, etc.) and three biologic substances.

I am not even going to try to sort this thing out - because I do not understand a lot about the process. All I know is that I can feel every drop I take in, and not only that, all the emotional blockages are also found and treated.

A couple of days ago I relived for about 2 minutes the rushing, chest crushing effect and sound of a 500 ton American bomb falling less than a mile from our home in Germany - in 1944 when I was 13 years old. It is like rewinding a movie. We get ill on several levels and will only heal if we address all levels.

If I had to do it over again, now being aware of AI, I would have done this therapy on day one before anything else. All the attempts to detox heavy metals and chemicals including the inherited ones, are next to useless if the body does not recognize them as toxins. So we think we are detoxing - well, maybe a molecule or two, but the majority remains with you, until the body finds its new regulation. This is what AI is all about - it takes the errors out and reprograms the system, so that it can clean up as it should have done all along.

We are born with a few errors in the system and pick up a few on our own during our life. Amy Yasko's test didn't answer a darn thing for us, but AI gave us the answer and offered the solution.

We still have a ways to go - the older, the more accumulation. Kids sail through this therapy wonderfully and well - even our 39 year old son is having major improvement just one week into the drops. He most likely inherited my husband's wheat allergy because he started to have problems
early in life.

Reversing the polarity at all the blockages at the DNA level - is all it amounts to. It can only be done in small sections, and so the only thing to keep in mind is that it is not done in a week. AI tell me that it is the most difficult thing for them to keep people doing the drops, even though they may not see any results for a months or three month. A recent MS patient took close to a year to get out of the wheelchair and be functional again. I heard of a woman in a wheelchair with a bleeding brain - she is walking in the park again.

They do not recommend working with other frequency treatments, lights, etc. The body is very busy doing its thing with 15 drops of informed water! I can testify to that.

We are waiting for our #3 bottle of drops. We will only stop when all my husband's symptoms are gone or if they can not longer find any errors in the system.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
NAET is not treating at the DNA level and therefore is not a permanent solution. It did not wipe out my metal allergies nor anything else permanently. We were treated by the NAET founder herself.

They only recommend going easy on the foods that really cause you a problem - and then only for the first two weeks, when most of the primary food allergies are erased.

You don't have to do anything specific before the test.

They recommend not adding any homeopathic treatments at the same time, because any frequencies such as homeopathics deliver may be confusing to the body.

You will find most info on their website. I have rarely seen such an informative website - sadly it is not all in English.
 

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Posted by sk8ter (Member # 8671) on :
 
GiGi I had tried NAET years ago and I don't think it helped. Do you feel the AI is the best other than the Biophoton in Germany?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Andrew, did you decide to go for the AI now?
When I emailed the site for advice, telling them I have Lyme and co and am on abx, they said you can take the tests and drops AT ANY TIME.

Carry
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I don't believe GiGi will be replying as she said she's left the forum on another thread.
 

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Posted by psano2 (Member # 11711) on :
 
How long does it take to get the test and then to get the treatment after ordering? I emailed them this question a couple of times, but they never responded.

Patti
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Does anyone know what is in the drops specifically.. how the water is informed?

Thanks, Robin
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
The company (AI) can't even explain how it works and admits it on their website. I'm sure others here may provide a better educated guess based on their knowledge of energy medicine.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Hi psano2,

I got my test results in just over a week from the time I mailed them (US west coast).

About 8 days later, they e-mailed me a link to a pdf file of the report that I could print and save.

I had only ordered the test to start with, but as soon as I'd read my results, I ordered the treatment. I would imagine 1-2 weeks to receive the treatment/drops.

Hope this helps.
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Nutmeg,

Were the results what you expected? Any thoughts ahead of time or inclinations as to things that bother you?
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
I can figure how they work in the big picture sense.. I want to know what is in the drops.. they have to know how they make them.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
How different is the analysis than an asyra analysis? Thanks..
 

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Posted by nomoremuscles (Member # 9560) on :
 
I don't understand.

Wasn't Gigi already cured of her Lyme and everything BEFORE the bionic? Didn't she say she was surprised to have gotten a bit of a herx from that one?

So...

Is Gigi using these drops herself? If so, did she relapse or something?

Or are they for her husband?
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I think both Gigi and her husband uses them. That's what I recall reading.

Cured of Lyme may not mean perfect health. lol. I think many on this board have this perception Gigi is the picture of absolute health and has no issues whatsoever because she may have knowledge others can't understand or access to.

I don't know her personally or live in her body. We can't presume anything. Hopefully the Lyme issues never came back and she's trying to wrap up loose ends.
 

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Posted by nomoremuscles (Member # 9560) on :
 
Seek,

I thought she had posted to that effect in the past, that the Lyme and friends were gone, and she was symptom free.

That was why this confused me.

I can see giving it to her husband, as he is still very symptomatic -- if I read correctly -- but why would she need the stuff herself?
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Hi Seekhelp,

My results were interesting (to me anyway...LOL!).

Energetic blockages in the spine match all of the areas where I have had injuries, pain, arthritis, stiffness, and muscle/connective tissue/nerve involvement.

I had no faulty processing of food substances and industrial toxins that were tested. Did have faulty processing of 3 molds and 3 fungi, and to 4 of the metals. These metals match up to the ones that always show up in higher levels on my toxic metals tests.

No energetically blocked glands (hypothalamus, pituitary, pineal, thyroid, etc). There is an enzyme dysfunction, but I have not read what that's all about yet.

No genetic weaknesses in genetic tosins, bacterial disorders, bacteria, or viruses.

I had major dysfunctions and/or blockages and low energy or flow in all of the bioenergetic systems they tested. Everything was in the high yellow or well into the red zone. Also high toxic body burden of recirculating heavy metals and contaminants.

Bioenergetically blocked areas from traumatic events. I have been working on these for years, so I wonder what testing would have showed before I did all that.

I think the results show why I can't get well with anything I've tried. It doesn't matter too much what I eat or take, something (many things?) systemically are not working well, and I'm not clearing out toxins as well as I need to.

I'd really like to understand this better, so I've got a lot of reading to do before I start the drops. Looking forward to some resolution!

Who knows, maybe Lyme and coinfections are not even a factor?

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Gigi is not here, for what I know, Gigi was in remission before she went to Germany last year. She had been in remission from lyme for years.

Her hubby had also gone through remission periods, but lyme surfaced again with his other health issues lately. He had troubles to walk, some Parkinsonian problems etc.

In fact, Gigi went to Germany to treat his hubby mostly, not really herself at first hand. She used the Bionic on her ancient broken ankle when she was there, I think she's got an implant or so in her ankle, and ONLY AFTER using photons there, her borrelia reapppeared after years being dormant. She got an EM rash next day or so.

I'm talking all this through memory, if you'd like more details you gotta scroll through her posts since about July 2008.

I had an almost exact issue for my borrelia. It had been dormant since September 08. After first days using photons in January (not to kill borrelia, as it had been dormant), I got a lyme revival.

That is what I'm treating now. So I do think photons can make dormant infections alive probably because it activated our immune system? (a guess).

Gigi and her husband are also older than most of us (in the late 70s or early 80s, if I'm not mistaken), so you can imagine that they could be having many more health troubles than most of us here in this board.

I also had been lyme free for months, and it didn't make of me someone in perfect health, even though it was MUCH better than when I had active lyme. I still had loads of skin candida, fungi and many many other infections to treat, mostly on my skin and GI tract. Just borrelia and all my tick born coinfections were dormant.

So yes, getting lyme down is not the end! Gigi's theory is that there must be something BEFORE we fell sick with lyme making us 'weaker' to have such chronic condition. That is why she has been doing AI too.

I see kids being bitten with ticks every year and they don't fall sick. Adults too, many many. I fell sick after my first tick bite ever and so did my daughter. Every time we get a new tick bite, 2 out or 3 times, we fall sick again.

So, I think she's right. We need to treat other deeper health conditions, not only the borrelia infection, to be in better health, so that we don't fall SO sick every time we get a new tick bite.

My daughter was in remission from borrelia for more than a year. This January she got a relapse. She had been out of lyme treatment for the whole of last year (except when she caught TBE after a tick bite, but it was not lyme but encephalitis)... So yes, people relapse...

To my view, anyone can profit from the AI approach, even the ones called 'healthy'. Husband doesn't have lyme, never had, but has allergies, so I think he's one that would profit from the AI drops.

I hope this helps.
 

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Posted by ElaineC (Member # 9857) on :
 
Can one do the AI drops at same time as abx treatment? Or is this not advised? Thanks.
 

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Posted by nomoremuscles (Member # 9560) on :
 
Thanks for the detailed response, Brussels.

I understand better now. Good luck with your own therapy and health.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
I asked the AI folks if one could take antibiotics at the same time.

The answer, from the head researcher, was that the drops act on a different level, so they don't interfere with any other type of treatment. And, that many people with borreliosis were doing this. (that is not verbatim)

I re-asked about it being ADVISIBLE or OPTIMUM to take the drops while on antibiotics, and received no reply.

GiGi had said that one shouldn't be taking antibiotics at the same time. She didn't cite anything specific at the website relating to this.

Pausing the antibiotics isn't an option for me right now--I'm on Mepron and Zith now almost 8 months, and don't want to let the buggers have a long "time out" to reproduce again!!!!!

I personally decided to do the drops anyway. I'm waiting for them to arrive.

Best,

Cass A.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
The only thing GiGi told me that might possibly interfere with the AI drops is homeopathic remedies. Everything else reportedly works on a different level.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by NMN (Member # 11007) on :
 
I would like to hear feedback from people about this. The whole thing reads very vague to me on the website.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I agree NMN. The company could do much better explaining things for the price. I can't say for sure if there is more in German, but I'm using the Google translator and appear to be viewing all pages. I saw some stuff, but not a ton.
 

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Posted by ElaineC (Member # 9857) on :
 
No, it's pretty vague in German also!!
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I got my AI results just now.

According to it, my body is incorrectly identifying:
-wheat, gliadin/gluten, corn, soy
-various molds/fungi (penicillicum, mucor strains)
-phenyl mercury acetate
-lead, nickel, copper, mercury

I seem to not have that issue with lactose, yeast or sugar, which kind of surprised me.

[ 03-10-2009, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: zombie_mummy ]
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I am also showing genetic weakness to 4 diseases/toxins: psonirum, medorrhinum, syphilis, tuberculinum

and many blockages in my brain, spine, glands etc.
 

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Posted by Jewel (Member # 18878) on :
 
How do you take the drops? Directly in the mouth or put the drops in water? Do you take it on an empty stomach?
 

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Posted by jl123 (Member # 15594) on :
 
It is my strong opinion that if someone is severely blocked- liver/spleen etc, that mercury or many other toxins will not be able to cross through this muck. I think it might even have the potential to deposit toxins in this mock making things worse.

Thats the counter-argument. JL
 

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Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
up for others taking the AI drops. i'm really curious to know your results and how you're feeling as the treatment progresses.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
I am finishing up my second round of drops in a couple of days.

My second test results showed I had cleared the faulty processing of wheat, corn, soy, molds, fungi, lead, mercury, copper and nickel, along with the two chemical toxins that showed up.

I do take binders when I feel the metals moving but it does feel different now. In the past it felt like they were just recirculating if I used something to pull them.

I also take liver and kidney support when needed through testing. I haven't needed to take lymphatic support since early on in the first round.

For many months I had not been able to wear my reading glasses. I suspect there is nickel in the frames. I am able to wear them now.

First round I was highly energized and had lots of emotional releases at the same time.

This round I am experiencing a pleasant tiredness a lot of the time.

All in all I am pleased with the results so far and look forward to getting my next test.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Good for you, Nanadubo.

Which binders do you take and it what quantities, if you don't mind my asking?

Is your organ support herbal?

Hope your next test or round of drops goes well,

Carry
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Did those on the AI therapy do muscle testing to see if AI Drops were good for their body at this time before proceeding?

I just was ART tested yesterday for the drops, and got a NO!

My ND who is very good with ART did the testing, and also used her assistant to verify the answer.

We were both suprised with the NO.

So I am holding off for now...although I already sent in my sample...but haven't received the paypal invoice yet.

Anyone with the same situation?

I'm not sure what to do next, as I was planning on doing the drops and then going for the bionic treatment.

lymeparfait

lymeparfait
 

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Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
up again
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
i had my energetic practitioner test me for it, and she got a strong yes. That may not have been the case if my detox organs were stressed out at time of testing. Lymeparfait--since this therapy is geared for your body, the only reason I can come up with for the no is that you're having detoxification impairment so your body wouldn't be equipped to deal with the release that comes with the drops.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks for that thought Joey. It confirms my intuition.

I have always felt that I do not detox well.

I seem to accumulate fluids in my tissues my whole life and can pick up water weight easily...I am a thin person, but swell easily.

I am doing the PKU test just recommended by Dr. K.

Maybe this will show up something related to detox problems.

I just do not want to take a new protocol if it will be detrimental, just to follow everyone

else...although I have good inituition about the AI drops. My ND also had good feeling initially

about the drops...but now she says for me, it's a no. I need to know the next "yes" ! That's the

frustration. I always have to have a plan A and plan B.

I'm always looking for the remedy to kickstart my healing!

Thanks always!

lymeparfait
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
ukcarry - I use the biotensor to test for binders. More often than not, it's activated charcoal, sometimes zeolite.

I have herbal tinctures but I do use homeopathic remedies for liver and kidneys if they test VERY strongly.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Hi Lymeparfait:

I don't know if you are able to muscle test yourself but here's something I have had success with when I am stuck or my body is causing me discomfort:

Muscle test to see if your body says no to the drops because another priority (could be more than one) is required before the drops.

I have had negative energy blockages from traumatic life events interfere with my body's ability to process frequencies and photons. ( I usually find these by asking what age it occurred.)

You can clear these with EFT tapping on whichever tapping points you test for -- using whatever phrasing your body tests will work -- Could be something like: Clear (or other action words) all negative energy blockages from whatever event or emotion(s) that are impairing my body's ability to process frequencies or photons (light & color) according to my true Creator-designed (if you feel good about this wording) eternal positive energy genetic code. And then tap in positive word(s) or a phrase that tests good for you.

You will know if you are on the right track if you start deep yawning, tears running down your face, nose running etc. -- all signs of the body clearing negative energy. (may also be signs you're tired or getting a cold. LOL)

Sometimes there are several different blockages piled on top of each other, so test percentage of clearance as you go.

It could be as you say that you need to clear negative energy blockages from detox pathways before you start the drops.

Another thing that may be blocking you: Inherited genetic misinformation. Blocked communication pathways. Of course there are many more possibilities as well.

Another thing you should be able to do is test every part of your body ie. organ, system, gland, body part etc. to see if you test strong for "I Love myself", if not you may be able to clear this by tapping in something like "As my Creator loves me, I love myself". This is helpful because often our body's definition of love is incorrect. (Some people may prefer to use "All the positive loving energy in the universe" instead of "Creator" --- whatever you are comfortable with.)

Your practitioner may have already tested for some of these but if not, it's something you may be able to do on your own that doesn't cost anything.

Anyway, it may give you an inkling of why you don't want the drops right now. You are right that it's best for you to clear things as your body is ready for it in order to minimize discomfort.

Not everyone is successful with this method, but no harm trying. Hope you find your next "Yes" soon!
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
This is very helpful, Looking.. thanks!
 

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Posted by jam338 (Member # 14002) on :
 
Looking, thanks for contributing the information on clearing blockages. For those of us new to muscle testing can you please help us (me) better understand how to find out what age things happened. I mean by what process/how does the body communicate that a specific thing happened at age 15 lets say?

For example, I think I was 15 when I was tick bitten. Are you saying there is a way I can ask my body to reveal the age when it happened? If so, can you guide me to how to ask and interpert that?

Also, you said use whichever tapping points you test for.....can you please clarify what that is and how to do it? Thanks.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Oh, you're welcome, I just learned how to do this off of the internet and then expanded on it. It's something most people can learn to do without spending any money although some people do go to a practitioner for it, and it gives you a sense of having some control over finding at least the energy blockages that may be contributing to ill health.

There are many EFT sites with diagrams of the tapping spots -- this is just one which I have no affiliation with but it explains it pretty well:

http://www.eftemotionalfreedomtechnique.com/

I also use other tapping spots just by muscle testing. You need to ask questions your body can respond yes or no to.

So you ask if you need to use any of the spots on the diagram and then go through them quickly to find the ones you need. You can also ask if all spots are on the diagram.

If no, then ask if there is 1 more, 2 more etc. until you test yes. Then just ask is it on my head, body, arms, legs, hands etc. to narrow it down. Anyway with practice it will go pretty fast.

As far as finding traumas that have happened at a particular age: Just ask if it was in utero, then birth to 5 years, 6 to 10, 11 to 15 etc. until you find the block of time your body tests strong for then you can narrow it down year by year. You can also ask if negative energy from this trauma is emotional, physical, energetical, chemical, pathogenic etc. or a combination.

Another thing I have found helpful is to test only for positive energy truth to find where I have negative energy blockages. Again, you can just ask head, body, arms, legs etc. one at at time until you figure out where it is. You have to practice until you "get' it.

I just test using the o-ring method with my fingers until they test strong. Also when clearing blockages with tapping, it helps to find the most effective word.

Sometimes the word "clear" is not enough, it may be delete, erase, expunge, purge etc. all this negative energy. (You can use a thesaurus to find synonyms) I have a small cold laser that I also use to clear some spots when I test for it.

The more you can unburden your body from these pockets of negative energy, the better it can function.

Your body should release these blockages by priority of what is in your best interests.

I hope this is understandable, there is a lot more you can use it for once you get used to the method but this will get you started. If it is still not clear, let me know and I will try again.
 

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Posted by kplyme (Member # 15317) on :
 
For those who have ordered the AI drops, how long did it take to receive your order and how was it shipped -- US Mail, UPS?

Thanks.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
kplyme - it has taken a little over two weeks. They come by mail but you recieve an email during that time with your test results.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thank you, Nanadubo: funnily enough, it's charcoal and liquid zeolite that I have too at present.
 

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Posted by kplyme (Member # 15317) on :
 
Thanks, Nano. I received the results a week after I sent the sample. AI said they shipped the drops on 2-28 and if I didn't receive them soon they'd reship.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Looking,

Thanks so much for all the great info on testing!

And especially for the encouragement...I am

definiatley working to find the "yes".

I will experiment with your testing techiques!

This is all so new to me!

Please continue to pass advice!

lymeparfait.
 

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Posted by jam338 (Member # 14002) on :
 
Looking, thanks so much, so interesting!! Ok, so regarding:

"Another thing I have found helpful is to test only for positive energy truth to find where I have negative energy blockages"

Can you clarify more about what you mean by "positive energy truth" please?

I am trying to learn this so I can ask my body if it is time for allergie immune drops for me. Someone else said they tested and the body said no. MOJOEY said maybe that only means "not yet"....not yet a priority in treatment.

So, maybe this is a way for us to learn when it is the right time for us.

If I understand correctly, I think others may be using the biotensors for this purpose, right?

Is the same truth in answers the same no matter what the device or process used to access it? I mean the source of the information no matter what the device is really from a source within us right?
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Okay, well I actually use "Is this answer completely & exclusively positive energy truth in harmony with my Creator-designed genetic code?" (Just trying to get around the "negative energy" which can come from many sources (pathogens, heavy metals, physical and/or emotional trauma, chemical damage, drug residues, faulty electrical or energetic wiring, spiritual harm which interferes with your relationship with your Creator (some blame God for losing loved ones etc.)

As for Jam's other questions:

If I understand correctly, I think others may be using the biotensors for this purpose, right? -- Answer: I understand biotensors do the same thing but I don't have any personal experience using one.

Is the same truth in answers the same no matter what the device or process used to access it? -- Answer: I can't comment on devices or processes I haven't used but I'm sure there is more than one way to do this.

I mean the source of the information no matter what the device is really from a source within us right? -- Answer: Yes, but it can be "confused" or "blocked" by some "negative energy" sources discussed here. Ideally, our bodies should self-correct and our energy pathways should stay open but when your body is overwhelmed it cannot process everything correctly.
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I started using this because at times you will get "iffy" answers or a weak "yes" and this is a clue that your body is communicating something and you need to find out what. Sometimes when testing a supplement it means you want an ingredient in the supplement but not the rest or that you have something better you can use.

You can ask things like:

Is there a negative energy blockage that is interfering with this response? Or do I need to word the question differently? Is there another question(s) I need to ask as well or before this one?

You have to be your own detective and listen to your body clues. I believe that the symptom you are having that is bothering you the most is usually the one your body is asking you to work on and that is why it intensifies. You can just ask do I need to work on "whatever" symptom first. I have developed my own kind of "check list" that I go through to find what the problem may be.

The method I use is my own combination and adaptation of bits & pieces of different energy work including EFT, neuromodulation, energetic balancing etc. developed out of a need to help myself when I couldn't afford treatment so I put it out here for free for anyone else who cares to try it.

I believe I need to reset my genetic code to default as much as is possible. Using the computer analogy, our body programs have corrupted files & viruses (negative energy) that need to be deleted because "our personal computer" is no longer sure which info is valid and uncorrupted. Ideally we need to reboot back to default instructions installed by our "manufacturer". This is how I look at this anyway.

This has helped me go from "I feel like I'm dying", to "the more of these blockages I release, the better I feel". Not that you don't need the big guns (medical treatment) to go after lyme when you can afford them, not saying that at all. Each person needs unique treatment that is tailored for them, so see your Doctor -- this information is not medical advice!

Energy work can keep you from becoming more blocked up and deteriorating further in my experience. I don't want to overwhelm people with TMI so I'll stop now.
 

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Posted by jam338 (Member # 14002) on :
 
Looking, thank you so much for the very helpful clarifications. So, that we don't inadvertently hijack this thread (further) could you please PM and share your checklist questions with me? Or maybe we could start a separately titled thread as I am sure others may be interested in this or even want to contribute their own process. It would be extremely helpful for those of us who are just learning. Thank you for considering about it.

If I am understanding the AI concept correctly, it progressively finds and removes negative imprint codes. I have no idea how it accomplishes that, but it sounds facinating.

I can see why GiGi and others have been so excited about this. I am guessing that all of us have bad imprinting codes that have accummulated and resulted in our inability to self-correct illness.

While it may all sound like voo~doo theory, we should remember so did DNA science in the beginning. Fifty years ago who would have possibly thought that science would eventually be able to identify a person by a hair strand, from fingerprints, or saliva??? Or that stem cell offers possibilities??

Evolutionary science always starts with confusion and doubting Thomases. Perhaps the AI process is indeed on the leading edge. Those who are doing it here are certainly reporting very interesting things.

Other than GiGi, who here on LymeNet has been doing AI the longest?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I am in at the start of round 3 now. I think GiGi is just about to start round 4 in about a week.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Just sending off for round three here.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
I just recieved my first shipment of AI drops. I recived only one bottle.Is that correct? Im the litature it stated 2 to 3 bottels.This hardley seems like it will last two weeks.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
1 bottle lasts 2 weeks. The literature is referring to future cycles.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Has anyone seen their CRP (C-reactive protein) level go down using the AI drops?

Someone was asking how long it takes to receive the drops. I ordered the test first, then the drops after I got the report.

Report arrived via e-mail link 8 days after I mailed my sample from the west coast.

Drops arrived by US mail about 9 days after I ordered them from the website.

I started taking them today. So far, so good.

Someone wrote a while back that they couldn't get the drops out of the bottle. You have to pierce the top of the spout (underneath the white cover) with a needle or pin.

My Lyme-friendly MD was very interested in my report at my appt. yesterday. I gave him a copy. He said he might call AI to find out more about their treatment. I muscle-tested strong for the drops.

I'm going to give my chiropractor a copy of my report tomorrow and have him muscle-test me too.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I received my report and my daughters report together today. They are almost identical results. We have very different symptoms, but obviously genetically connected. I was thinking the results would be very different because of her fathers genetics...

Also, I muscle test very strongly for Mercury...but none showed up yet in my report...but my daughter has mercury in hers. (with no amalgams in her)

I was always wondering if I could have passed metals to her along with the lyme...but also wonder if they got our results mixed up? We sent them together, but they were marked very well.

Can my mercury show up in later test results?

Has anyone else compared their results with a family member or anyone else to see if they are standard type of disegulations that most people have or truley unique by individual?

Just wondering.

LP
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Wait til later. I did not show Mercury in cycle 1 and thought the same. It showed up in cycle 2.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Yes, mercury/toxins are passed to children. The first born is at the most risk from what I understand.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks Scott,

What does the AI drops do for the mercury/metals?

Does it help the body be able to release them finally?

LP
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Thanks Scott for answering.

I started to take the drops late last night.I was super stiff sleeping last night and my usual Myoclonic leg jerking was gone. I am just getting ready to take my 4th dose. I have been crying on and off all day for no reason, I have been reallly acky, feels like the flu.

I have been diagnosed with M.S. and much later diagnosed with lyme .

So somthing is definitly at work here. And if it can somehow help me I'll be screaming it from the rooftops . Terri
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
I got my AI drops last week, and did my best to cut back on suppliments before I started them.

I also completed Mepron/Zith!

So, I started 3 days ago. My thinking is definitely clearer than it has been. Hope things are UP from here!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by maureen2174 (Member # 11471) on :
 
Okay, a couple of questions about this....

1) how many drops do you take each day?

2) how many times per day?

3) is it recommended to refrain from other treatments like rife and infrared light therapy while using the drops?

Thanks!
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Can anyone give some advice on the different techniques you have used to address the emotional blockages, both inherited and aquired?

Or do they just emerge as you are taking the drops and naturally remove themselves without any psychological type work or therapy?

My results say I have 9 bioenergetically blocked areras in my subconscious, or traumas experienced in life.

7 areas of the soul blocked that adversely affect the system : emotional relics inherited by parents: ie. horrible war experiences.

I am not aware of them or how to have them emerge to take care of them.

any thoughts?

LP
 

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Posted by jam338 (Member # 14002) on :
 
Scott, Nana, MoJoey, & others doing the AI drops:

Are the drops homeopathic or a different derivative? I tried to review the website and can't find information. My brain problem is really bad.

Thanks for help in understanding whether they are homeopathic or not. Asking because I was told by a doctor a few months ago that homeopathics that my body was not yet ready for homeopathics. Not sure about now. If they are not homeopathic then it isn't an issue for me to worry about.

Thanks for help in understanding whether they are homeopathic or not.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
As I understand, they are energetic, not homeopathic.

LP - the AI drops should address these issues. So if you are doing AI drops, then you are likely on track.

5 drops 3 times a day. They do recommend avoiding other treatments and especially homeopathics. I have continued most of my other treatment options.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
jam- they are not homeopathic. Water with energetic information.

lymeparfait - as there have been days were I have done nothing but cry and many old things have come up, that could be helping with the emotional blocks. Not sure what to do about the ones we inherit.

Haven't felt like I needed therapy but lots of time spent forgiving myself and others and just riding the waves when they come.

maureen2174 - you take the drops three times a day. I have tested with each round for how many to take. The first round I ended up only taking 1 drop 3x a day.

Second round I could take 4 or 5 3x.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
I think it's important to remember that there is no single remedy that will detect every which problem we have. For example, I'm not too sure about the explanation that dairy allergy didn't come up for me in my results because it's only due to cows consuming wheat.. so ultimately it's a wheat allergy. Also, I have a sulfur allergy that may be secondary to other SNPs, yet when I asked them about it they said I don't have a sulfur allergy.

That may be true at the DNA level, but that doesn't mean it's not an issue.

My point is..this therapy should change the terrain to make it more conducive to healing, but I'm not sure all my "expressed" allergies will go away. Although I'm open to being surprised.
 

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Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
for those who are doing the drops, do your LLMDs know about it and approve? i wonder if continuing other treatments makes the drops less effective? it seems most of us would be hard pressed to stop all treatment before starting the AI program..
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Just want to say it looks like Scott and I were typing at the same time. Wasn't trying to repeat his answer

heiwalove - I no longer have an LLMD and I doubt if the one I had would understand or approve. He told me many times that he doesn't know or understand much about energetic matters.

One MD I have shared my test results with is very excited and supportive of this. I am only able to see him as part of the process of having had my amalgams removed and I wish he were available to be my PCP.

My guess is too many treatments at the same time is like too many radio stations trying to tune in at the same time.

I take very few things now. A few supplements and detox support when needed.

Often (for me) the drops revisit old issues even if only on an energetic level.

For instance, my test showed I had many blockages that related to "elimination" and I started having some gut issues.

They felt very real but after undergoing a colonoscopy yesterday, it was completely normal aside from a small polyp being removed and all my blood work is completely normal as well as x-rays and various exams.

I am left to think that the remedy is going to work on repairing the energetic blockages in that area.

The gastro I saw certainly wouldn't have approved of the remedy. He doesn't even approve of colonics - calls them too alternative and a real money maker!

That gave me a good laugh when I compare the cost of a colonic to a colonoscopy!!
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks so much for all the good feedback about the AI treatments! Very much appreciated.

Regarding use of the word homeopathic.... it can be deceptive. This is my understanding of it:

In the USA, unless a `remedy' starts with an actual substance, it cannot be termed `homeopathic'. Therefore, some of the electronically generated or imprinted `nosodes' should not be labeled as homeopathic because the process did not begin with an actual product/substance.

So, while all the `attributes' of a homeopathic remedy may be there, the manufacturer isn't supposed to market it as `homeopathic'. So, some sites simply call their remedies `homeopathic-like' or `homeotherapeutic' or refer to them as `resonances' or `energetic imprints', etc..

So, just because it doesn't say it is homeopathic doesn't mean much. It's a matter of terminology. If it ACTS like a homeopathic medicine, I think it should be treated as such from a consumer standpoint.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
AI drops are frequency based or energetic as I understand, not originating from any original substance like true homeopathics.
 

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Posted by jam338 (Member # 14002) on :
 
Scott, Nana, M0joey,and all....thank you very much for the clarification and additional info about AI. It will be interesting to read your ongoing experiences. Please continue to share as many of us are learning from you with gratitude.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
I asked about the number of drops a day, also. I settled on starting with 3 each time (just by deciding--no testing) to start, and am now up to 5 at a time, three times a day.

I cut back on my suppliments, but am still taking quite a few!!! I decided not to end the anti-seizure ones at this time.

I got a go-ahead from my LLMD to end my loooonng Mepron/Zith treatment and sent him a copy of my AI test results that came to me in email. He's interested in seeing what happens! Whoo hoo!!!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
I think I'm herxing from these AI drops. I started them one week ago tomorrow, 5 drops 3x day.

For the last few days I've had a sore throat that's gotten worse. It hurts more when I swallow, and is quite red. No spots or anything.

There is some fullness and tenderness behind my jaw, especially on the side where my throat is the sorest. The tenderness was worse one night last week. Lymph congestion, perhaps?

No other symptoms (fever, extreme fatigue, chills, etc.) like I would expect if I was actually coming down with something.

Anyone else experience something like this? It's not bad, just a little bothersome and I'm wondering if I should decrease the number of drops.

Thanks,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by Lymic (Member # 19335) on :
 
Hi everyone,

With regard to the use of the AI drops, are the drops added to water or beverages of your choice before it is consumed? Or is it applied to the bottom of your tongue directly? Lastly, is it important whether it is taken on an empty stomach?

Thank you in advance.

Lymic
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I'm a bit disappointed with AI right now. I got my report Mar. 10 and was told the drops were in the mail, but they're not here yet...
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
This generally is not an AI issue but a mail issue. I have had them arrive in 5 days and as long as 14 days. If you email them, they will often send them again if it has been as long as it has been for you. I would say by Monday, you should ask them to send again.

I put them in a couple ounces of water.
 

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Posted by Lymic (Member # 19335) on :
 
Thanks Scott. Do you drink it on an empty stomach? Would it be more effective if the drops are taken sublingually so it doesn't have to go through the GI tract?

Lymic
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
I hate to mention anyone's name, but..... has anyone heard of or been to see Andrea Candee in South Salem, NY?

Apparently, she sort of specializes in Lyme Disease, and it appears that her primary treatment is with `vibrational remedies' that deal with MIASMS...... when I read about it, it sounds very similar to the Allergie Immune remedies?

The Science of Vibrational Healing:
http://www.andreacandee.com/Articles.html#Vibrational

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Excerpt:
In the history of natural healing, first there were herbs, then came homeopathy and now there are vibrational formulas. All work well when you have knowledge of how to apply them.......

Many of the formulas are based on miasms, the weaknesses in our bodies inherited from the illnesses of our ancestors. Miasms are the basis of all chronic diseases and appear in electrical form on the DNA. When a remedy is based on a miasm, there are a series of realizations and benefits that can occur. If, for example, 12 bottles are needed of a particular formula, the first third of the bottles yields benefits in the physical body. In the second third, we start to add the mental/emotional value when we begin to recognize patterns that need changing. In the third part, we perceive issues from a more spiritual perspective. In very individualistic ways we put the patterns and lessons together by the end of the 12 bottles. You need the full 12 or so bottles of the remedy to get the full physical result, the full mental result and the full spiritual result because they are all connected in the harmonic hologram of the body. ......

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(Healers Who Share, a group of independent health consultants based in the U.S., Canada, Norway and the European Union).

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So, she's part of the Healers Who Share network - David Alan Slater group. This makes sense now; the HWS remedies definitely sounded like AI, too. One person who posts here - NikkiB maybe? - is doing the Healers Who Share drops and her report about it was VERY positive. Let me go do some searching.....

Okay, yes, it is nikkib .......

(latest thread) Frequency Remedies - Update!
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/77865?

earlier thread) Frequency Remedies Working! thread:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/75427?

Boy, that osteoporosis story sure impressed me..... and it happens to be one of my big issues....

Do you think you might be able to attend one of her talks or workshops?
(Note that there are both - you'd have to inquire about which to go to.)
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Truthfinder...thanks for the search.

It appears that others who are doing the AI drops now from Germany have already investigated these...would like to know what Scott and Joey know about this remedy versus the AI drops?

OK...Here are the cut and paste posts from nikkib....(below)

Healers Who Share:
We were tested for the 3rd time by the electrodermal testing women that works with Lyme patients we go to: 1st time- loaded with Lyme and yeast....then started the remedies; 2nd visit- (about 4 months into remedies) she only found about 25% of the lyme frequency intensity and no yeast; 3rd visit this weekend- couldnt find any lyme and no yeast. Daughter tested clean as well. Granted- It could be hiding....but she usually could pick it up anyway. We feel great and I just wanted to share it! I think a lot of what was holding us back was the virus' attached to the lyme and coinfections which the frequencies kill. Yes, I had been very very sick. Please search my old posts about the program and my past symptoms. It gave very specific info in my past posts, but I would be happy to answer any other questions to help others! I have heard of many people this has helped now (with only a few exceptions). As with most Lyme related things, it has cost us a lot of money, but extremely worth it- (cost depends on what they find in your saliva and how many bottles of the remedies you need). Good luck!

I have had all my questions answered with different people from HWS who have spent hours on the phone with me. You can speak with David )the tester) directly during set times 1 time a week. I spoke with him once. His directions are very clear, so i didnt feel the need for more guidance. There are a lot of practitioners that use this program that can be "middle men" if one needs guidance with it (thats how I found out about it from a practitioner in Westchester). I wanted not to spend another $250 for a consult with this woman when the company would do it directly. Same info, not consult charge.

I guess with the people it is not working with I think of many possibilities: diet, heavy metals, mold exposure, hormone imbalance. I am saying this sincerely, because I think diet and detox are most important....helps the immune system and then you can go after the bacteria better. I just had my hormones tested to see what was thrown off with the Lyme. No results yet. I have also changed my diet and have been detoxing for about 1 year, so I am sure it all helps. Also, I heard with this company that when you give your medical history, give every last detail, as even the smallest thing from years ago can help them find the correct frequency match. Too many choices of what to do to treat lyme, but something has to work ....right? Happy Holidays.

Later post by nikkib....

For all that were waiting for my next update, it is now 7 months into doing the frequency remedies I posted about (no abx)... as well as my daughter- 7 years old. We are both now about 95% back to health (we only seem to get symptoms when we are coming down with a cold or virus). We have not had symptoms in quite a while. Feel great, lots of energy and back to work, gym, travel.....Thank God I found this and it worked for us.

Does Nikkib still post?

LP

[ 03-30-2009, 09:05 AM: Message edited by: lymeparfait ]
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Sorry but is this AI you are talking about?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
The post is about the remedies from Healers Who Share. I don't know much about it. I have heard they are good but extremely expensive compared to A I.

I only have experience with A I and this is ongoing.

The first remedy I took in January cleared the dysregulations for foods, molds, fungus and metals.

This means that now my body can deal with them as it should have many years ago - won't happen over night but it is happening.

I am now on my third remedy which deals with chemical substances found that were not being eliminated. This one has been a bit rough so far.

This is not about lyme for me, it is about dealing with the things that allowed me to become so ill in the first place.

You can be rid of borrelia but if you cannot deal properly with all its pals, metals, yeast, fungus, mold etc., then there is still work to be done IMO.

It's all in the gut folks! If you can heal that, you will go a long way.

If you are born with a gluten allergy and eat it your whole life, it will catch up with you. You may know you are allergic or it may be silent but it is doing the damage.

Gluten free diets will never keep you gluten free, it is in everything. This is why I decided to go the A I route and see if the information can be changed.

I am able to eat wheat and gluten now but will still try to avoid it for the most part until I feel my gut has healed.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Questions:

Did anyone save their English-translated pages from the AI website? If so, would you share them? (Seems like we could save everyone some time and brain damage if we could either post or share pages already translated.)

So, the test results are in German, correct? And they arrive in PDF format? If so, how the heck do you use Google to translate a PDF document?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Nana,

A question about how to take the drops.

I have a teenager going to college in the Fall...I want to start the drops for her this Spring/Summer.

After the first one or two rounds get completed, can she take a large break between treatments?

Or will this stop any healing that has already begun with the first set of treatments? I know she wil not keep up the protocol away from me.

Just want to know the practicality of starting a treatment that cannot be completed in regular intervals.

Any thoughts?

LP
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
LP, nikkib doesn't seem to be posting much; her last post was on March 20th and she started a thread about using certain abx during pregnancy, which seems like a strange question.....?

So, LP - are you still ART testing `no' for the AI treatment?

Cooper, if you want more info about the Healers Who Share formulas, here's the main website that I'm familiar with:
http://www.healerswhoshare.com/

AI: The test is 90 euro while treatment is 305 euro.
90 Euros = 118.765 US Dollars; 305 Euros = 402.481 US Dollars
So, as of today, the AI testing + drops = about $521.00.

I don't recall if nikkib has ever been specific about the cost of the Healers Who Share treatment for her (and family). I think the initial cost of the test is $100.00, then the remedies are in addition to that. Their website gives prices for their bottles of remedies. IF you have a lot of issues and need a lot of bottles, you are going to pay more. It isn't one set price like the AI. Something to keep in mind.

Last I checked at the HWS website, testing was backed up until about the first of June in David Slater's group, but it sounds like (from nikkib's posts) other HWS practitioners do testing, also? Maybe I'm off-base on that one.

As Nana said about using the AI: ``This is not about lyme for me, it is about dealing with the things that allowed me to become so ill in the first place.''

Gigi's posts here (and elsewhere) say the same thing. She got well, but it took a lot of effort, time, and money. And afterward, she still worked hard in a constant, daily battle to keep the toxins and bugs at bay to avoid relapse. Why? Because she was never able to clear the fundamental problem, i.e., her own predisposition to harbor and retain a lot of garbage.

Ever since I started reading about miasms (going back 200 years), I've felt certain that they were a key element in everything we do to maintain or regain health. The real challenge was finding the right practitioner or treatment protocol to deal with miasmatic problems in a definitive way. Never in a million years did I anticipate that we could - or would - have open discussions about miasms at LymeNet!!! (I'm still in a state of shock over that one.) Nor did I ever imagine that there might be a specific protocol that focused on the miasmatic approach......

We owe a lot to GiGi, and to those people who have followed in her footsteps. Many thanks to ALL of you. Keep those reports coming.

[ 04-04-2009, 07:48 AM: Message edited by: Truthfinder ]
 

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Posted by Clancy (Member # 8774) on :
 
Our test results were in English. They sent them about 3 wks. ago.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Tracy, the results are coming in English now. The first one is a PDF and subsequent results come in the mail along with the remedy.

I think this page will allow you to navigate the site:

allergie-immun.de/Englisch/allergietherapy.html#a980


LP - With two weeks on the drops and the turn around time for the next remedy, your daughter could get 3 under her belt before college.

Maybe she wouldn't need that many and maybe she wouldn't need more.

I would email them regarding long breaks as I don't know for sure.

You can use translategoogle.com to get a decent text for an email.
 

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Posted by psano2 (Member # 11711) on :
 
Does this treat only allergies, heavy etals, and blockages, or does it also directly treat the infections?
 

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Posted by bejoy (Member # 11129) on :
 
With regards to the osteoporosis situation: It seems to me that this type of remedy AI, Healers Who Share, etc, helps to balance hormones.

Osteoporosis is a common symptom of low progesterone levels. Natural progesterone supplementation has been shown to reverse osteoporosis.

The amount of information available in a saliva sample or a blood sample is enormous.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Nana,

My daughters drops came with german instructions that we cannot read...
How many drops in how much water? I recall others saying it is tobe takin in water...or are they sublingual?

Is there a standard protocol for taking the drops...or do I have to get her muscle tested for this answer?

Tracy..I am getting re-tested soon to see if I finlly get a yes...My drops already came in the mail with my daughters...but I"m not going to use them until I get the OK.

My ND thinks I may have a problem with detox, which may be why I am getting a no at this time. I"m getting tested now for PKU....the bad detox gene.

LP


LP
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
5 drops 3 times a day is normally what is used
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
OK,

Just re-read some of the older threads...some say 1 drop, some say 3 drops and some say 5 drops...were these directions given individually to each person, or did they just decide using muscle testing or a biotenser?

so just to get started...I decided to start my daughter on 5 drops in a few oz of water today...

Please tell me anyone...if this is not right!

Thanks,
LP
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
LP -PM sent
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I am still waiting for my drops. It's been 20 days now, since they gave me my report and told me my drops were in the mail...
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Call them or email and ask them to send them again. It happens. It isn't AI. It's the postal system.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I know, I'm just bummed -I was hoping to start this sooner. I had been holding off on photon tx because of AI.

I have sent off another email today.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Zombie,
Contact them by email...you should have them if you already paid by paypal. Mine came very quickly.

also I received a prompt reply last night to my questions about instructions...

FYI: Instructions:

They are to be taken directly into the mouth.
NOT IN WATER...at least that's what they say for me and my daughter.

3 - 5 drops directly in mouth. I asked if they were to be put under the tongue...and he just replied directly in mouth...

Others may have different instructions.

Others who are taking them have told me they use the biotenser each time they take them to get the exact number of drops. It's between 1 and 5! So it varies by individual..


Others without the tenser or muscle testing just keep to 3- 5 drops/ 3 x day and make sure they have enough in the bottle to get through the two weeks....at least 1 drop left per treatment to make it through the two weeks.

The two weeks of drops 3 x day is important.

Then you must wait two weeks without taking anything for your body to regulate. Then take the saliva sample and ship to AI.

It's a 4 week process.

There may be some lag time for them to make it and ship it back to you.


LP
 

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Posted by Clancy (Member # 8774) on :
 
Z-M, I know how you feel about the wait. Scott is right about the mail. Our first samples never made it so we had to resend and wait an extra 2 1/2 wks. to start.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
So it is recommended to order both the test and treatment drops together for quicker delivery.

For some reason the processing time lag happens if the test only is ordered, then paid for. And then if you want the treatment, it takes them more processing time.

Order it all together.

LP
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
My currrent instructions say to only wait one week before sending off a new saliva sample. It has changed each time I have done it. The first time I was to send right away.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks, all, for the additional info....
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Some interesting emotional releases for my daughter in the first few days on the drops.

She came home from school reporting that she (usually a very quiet and private girl), spoke out, and couldn't control her outrage about her teachers' personal opinion her teacher shared with the class.

She normally would hold in her feelings out of respect for her teacher...but today....she blasted the teacher in a 5 minute verbal barrage that she couldn't stop. Completely out of character. Everyone in class noticed this was not her!

It was a rightous/moral type of anger against a deep belief. She said it was like an out of body experience...a very strange feeling that came over her that she could not control, she said.

She is normally , very in control of being quiet and respecting everyones beliefs.

Also, she is sharing things with me...and taking time to tell me what's on her mind...this is so unusual in the past two days! She rarely shares anything with me ...it is noticeable. It's been a good thing...it is very possibly related to the drops. We'll see.

also, yesterday she has been smelling things that she describes as "dead animal smells" in our house....and there are no smells! Smells never bother her. Assuming that's the drops as well? Something is happening in the brain.

LP
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
What is to be expected re: physical experiences after your first round. The boy in the plastic bubble thing Im going through since Mepron Zith/Ceftin is too much...I need hope re: chemical allergies ... Anyone?
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Oops. I made a typo in a previous post (which I corrected).

Cost of the AI test + therapy drops = about $531.00 (as of today). Still, this could be a bargain if you end up needing several bottles of therapy drops and several subsequent tests - it's all included in a flat fee. If you've been ill for a long time (as I have), I suspect the treatment could be quite lengthy.

Here's a workable link to the English home page, then click on the left for additional pages in English. There's a lot more there in English than when I was there last. (Thanks, Nana.)

https://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/index.html

I ordered a free `sample analysis' by e-mail, so I'll see how that reads.

At this point, after some comparisons of the AI and the HealersWhoShare tests and treatment, at least in my own case, the AI sounds less expensive and far less complicated than the HWS.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Here's a Question and Answer page, translated by Google.... (I hope this will work).... it might answer a little bit more....

http://tinyurl.com/cyx2dl
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
up my last post
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks for the new info post. The translation helps me with my questions!

LP
 

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Posted by psano2 (Member # 11711) on :
 
Hoping to get a response...

Does AI treat only allergies, heavy metals, and blockages, or does it also directly treat the infections?

Anyone?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
psano2 - I'll take a stab at this but wish I was more informed. I've gone through 3 rounds of A I on faith but not with a lot of information other than the website and others who are taking it.

My understanding is that the infections linger because the body no longer knows how to deal with them due to all the crossed wires.

So the allergies to mold, fungus or other things can make it impossible for some things to clear up. Once the information is corrected then it is possible for infections to be dealt with.

They are not looking specifically for diseases when they are looking at our blood or saliva. They look for blockages and incorrect responses to different things.

So the answer to - does it also directly treat the infections? I would say it treats them in an indirect way. Hope that makes sense. Could be the allergies, metals and blockages that allow the infections in the first place.

I do know that the son of someone at the lab had lyme a number of years ago. They had him on antibiotics for a couple of months and then just decided to go with the remedy.

He spent some uncomfortable days in bed and that was the end of it. He was a teenager I believe. This is third party information but I have heard it a number of times and have no reason to believe it is not true.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I confirm what Nana says.

I have been emailing AI with loads of questions.

They say the immune system is able to function better after the inherited allergies and disfunctions are regulated, and the immune system fights the lyme and pathogens/viruses. The immune system begins to finally be able to do it's job.

Heavy metals and pathogens may need work after the treatment, especially if reinfected. Also much depends on how sick you are, or how damaged your immune system is. it takes time for the drops to regulate your system.

They say give it time, you will not see immediate improvement. That's why you need time in between the treatments.(2 weeks). Noticing improvement is more gradual for those who are the sickest, from their experience.

Children and teens seem to do the best as they have less to deal with as far as new viruses and environmental toxins. They usually only have to get the inherited disfunctions taken care of and many do not need additional treatments after the drops.

But many believe the bionic 880, rife or other treatment will be more effective. They encourage natural treatments, and don't think antibiotics are good for your body in general. They don't use them much in Germany, I believe. Like we do in America.

The lyme is different here, so I do not believe the people at AI truely know the extent of our lyme and co-infections and how sick this particular disease makes us in America.(my thoughts)

They say the inherited disregulatins are all gone after your total treatment, but they recommend doing the treatment every 2-3 years if you are starting to get more new environmental problems.

AS I find out more, I will post.

LP
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Also,

I was finally muscle tested again at my ND with ART. Originally I tested a strong NO.

This time, as the drops were delivered to me with my daughters, as I had the actual drops, I tested a YES.

I started two days ago. I have had no reaction to report.

My daughter appears to have her depression lifted. (not severly depressed...but always down and weepy and negetive to everything and everyone)

She started the drops 1 week ago. Very noticably happy, content and agreeable in all things. This is different! Over the past few months, I was seriously contemplating anti-depressants for her, per her LLMD. She has had many traumas on top of the lyme and co.

I wanted no more chemicals in her body. She was begging me to try the anti-depressants. I was feeling like a bad mother not to get her relief...but also feeling bad adding another substance with side effects. I was looking for natural help.

So I was Hoping that the bionic 880 would help or the AI. This is an experiment...there is no harm with these drops...but very co-incidental that she is feeling good/great.

She reports no depression this week Just feeling normal. We will see if this continues.

LP
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Hey, thanks LP and Nana..... that's good news about your daughter, LP!

I received the sample Analysis (in English) from AI. Interesting.

I did notice one thing stated in the Analysis that conflicts with what is on the website. The Analysis states that only 3 rounds of drops will be provided. The website indicates that they will provide as many drops and tests as necessary until the blockages or dysregulations are removed (for the flat treatment charge).

Anybody know which is actually true?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
They do provide as many as needed from what I understand. I am waiting now for round 4 to arrive and know others already on round 4.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Yes, my understanding is they provide remedies until no more blockages/dysregulations are found.

They do ask for a small amount of money for postage and packaging after about the second round.

LP - glad to hear your daughter is doing so well.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks Scott and Nana - glad to have that question answered.

Psano2, if you are interested in treating infections, the HealersWhoShare protocol might be a better fit for you. I just sent a PM to AndrewInCA to see if he has any news to share - he went to a HWS 'class' and started on their treatment around the first of March. Hopefully, he will be posting an update soon.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I asked if the security xray machine at the airport can harm or change the frequencies of the allergie-Immune drops?

They come with minimal packaging.

Just thinking of the posts of how xrays harm nosodes.

Response from AI:

"I do not think technical equipment can do this."

This was not an absolute no.

Any thoughts about frequencies and xrays?

LP
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Wrap them in foil if you want to be safe.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Do you think there could be a problem shipping them to us from Germany without foil wrap? I'm sure they get some sort of scan.

LP
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
All of the remedies I've ordered from the U.K. and India work just fine. I don't remember any special wrap from the ones from London (too long ago), but the ones from India were packed with just Styrofoam around them, and they are DEFINITELY still potent and work fine. All came in amber glass bottles (though the ones from India are just barely tinted.)

Even airport scanners don't seem to bother them- as long as they are in glass bottles. One homeopath takes her kits to Indonesia every 2 years, and the remedies in these same kits work fine for her. The kit boxes are just plastic. She said she's never tried traveling with remedies in plastic bottles. So, maybe the glass acts as a decent barrier?

Looks like it might be awhile yet before AndrewInCA has some time to post about the HWS drops, but I'm sure he will when he gets some time.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Is anyone doing any lyme and co treatment while taking the AI drops?

As most of you know, I was plannnig on being in Germany this week getting the bionic treatment, and have been off of antibiotics for 4 months, and doing no killing. Basically just detox and nutrients, preparing for the bionic.

I feel the lyme is attacking me in the brain again.

Any suggestions on a protocol as I am doing the AI therapy? This could be several months before I make it to Germany now.

LP
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear LP,

I just completed about 260 days of Mepron/Zith before starting the AI drops about three weeks ago. I'm waiting for my second round to come in the mail, so I'm off all antibiotics, etc., at this time also.

I didn't stop taking the vitamins and minerals that help with leg cramping and seizures.

Also, I'm taking the simplified methylation protocol recently discussed here on Lymenet.

Personally, I'd recommend doing the methylation, as this helps with detoxing. (Along with any other detoxing you do--my LLMD recommends chlorella). My LLMD--Dr. A--says that this protocol cuts down on treatment time by about 40%.

I'm also taking niacinamide (100 mg) about every 2-4 hours. This seems to help with cognative problems.

You could try some of the herbal remedies--Buhners or Cowden, for example.

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I just received a reply from AI concerning a question of whether he see lyme in my results.

He does not see lyme, but see's things related to antibiotic use!

It's hard to understand exactly what he means by this with his translation in German to English. some of the meaning gets lost.

It could mean:
his test does not show the diseases like lyme

or
I do not have lyme anymore?

I am curious, anyone have thoughts?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Seeing things related to antibiotic use could be the chemicals showing up.

He couldn't find any lyme in me either. I knew this but it was good to hear it yet again!

I believe he would see lyme if it was there from what he has shared.

Still feeling symptoms can be mold, fungus, yeast, metals, viruses - any or all.

A I takes patience, things clear in little chunks but it does happen.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Nana... are you feeling better from your AI treatment?
 

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Posted by kplyme (Member # 15317) on :
 
Question.....did any of you get really sick after starting the drops. I feel like it has stirred up every infection I've ever had in my entire life. I'm herxing like crazy and am on an abx break, so I don't get it.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Cooper - I wasn't feeling horrible when I started AI. Each remedy has been different for me. With the first one I either was tired or had a lot of extra energy.

Went through a lot of emotional releases as well as toxins with the second and third. A lot of the energetic blockage in my intestines has improved.

The third is working with chemicals that show up in the testing and it was by far the roughest for me.

Mr. Grundmeyer at the lab says that this is very, very hard work that the body is doing. A lot of rest is required.

For me, when regulations are taking place, it is not always pleasant but doesn't last very long.

It is different for everyone. My husband is doing the remedies as well and feels nothing except a little tired.

Each remedy is working on something different. We could never handle it if were happening all at once. I feel fine but have gone through some rough days on this.

These are issues we were born with and/or have had for a very long time. Not a quick fix. I will continue with the drops until no dysregulations are found.

My reason for doing this was to get to the bottom of how I could have gotten so ill in the first place and allow the corrections to be made.

Borrelia has been gone for six months but the tick bite was just the straw that broke the camels back 9 years ago (IMO).

The terrain had established itself and is now being cleaned up.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
KPLYME,

HOw long have you been treating the lyme and co-infections, and do you feel any of it has improved before you got off antibiotics and started the AI?

It seems like most people who posted about their AI Drop Treatment experieneces are in a better place physically before they began the drops, either by using the bionic 880, or after detox and feeling well enough to get off abx.

I haven't seen any posts of those just starting with the AI drops with not long history of lyme and co treatment.

I'm sure there have been some.

Just wondering at what level functionally you are and about your previous treatment to see how the drops are affecting you. This info could help others as well judge how treatment could progress and some of what to experience.

LP
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
NanaDubo,

I finally placed my biotensor order yesterday.

LP
 

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Posted by kplyme (Member # 15317) on :
 
Thanks, lymeparfait, for responding. Yes, I've been on abx for years and was in a good stable place when I started the drops. This is my first round of AI and felt fine the first week, but at the start of the second week I had a severe sore throat, killer headache, eye infection, bad cough, etc. I almost never get colds or flu and this seems a little different. Strange.......seems like a big ole herx!
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I started round 4 of AI drops today.
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
Please let me know what do you cleared from it when you get the answers.You are ahead of me.
You can write me privatly !

Are you done with CHEMICALS yet? My son is ahead of me too.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Still had chemicals show up in round 4.
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
ok I was hopping they were gone..but I guess is not that easy .

thanks for letting me know.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Scot,

What are the type of reactions you are having from round to round.

Just want to know what type of things to expect...or to compare.

LP
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Fatigue, smelly urine - that's about all I notice. Oh, and vivid dreams. Stop when I am not on the drops and come back when I am everytime.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks Scott.

I haven't noticed any big symptoms, except possibly fatigue, as the past several days I have been extremely sleepy in the middle of the day.

It isn't the debilitating type of fatigue I used to feel with my ebv and active virusus, but I feel I need to take a nap. Then I"m rejuvinated. Not sure if this is related to the drops, but I am into week two of the first round.

Also lots of "not so nice" gas. My family is not appreciating my presence this week.

LP
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Thank you Nana...and everyone.... for your inspiring replies.

Do the folks at AI know what the co infections are...ie: Babesia Bart?
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
I just got my results from the second saliva sample I sent right after I completed the first round of drops.

According to the results, I have ONLY TWO areas left to be corrected--some chemical toxins!!

I'm astounded!!

We'll see how the second round goes!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Just sending off for round 4.

I am expecting to be dealing with more chemicals in round 4 as well.

Cooper - I don't know the answer about co-infections.

If they are working on having the body return to a state that recognizes toxins, viruses etc., as "invaders" that have long been unrecognized, I can only guess that everything is addressed even if indirectly.

Have you tried emailing them with questions?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
LP - we'll have some fun on the phone when your biotensor arrives.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
CassA, how do you know that is all that is left? Did they specifically say that? They find things in layers. So that may be all that showed up, but it doesn't mean that is all that is left unless they somehow said that??
 

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Posted by Tonglen (Member # 18472) on :
 
CassA, curious as to whether you feel any better after doing the AI drops? For example, any specific symptoms reduced? Thx!
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

Scott: OK--all that showed up in the second test was two chemicals that are named. It also says that 14 unnamed chemicals were found, but that these have been corrected already.

My first test had lots of substances with bad reactions, blockages in the spine, and much more!! The results from THIS test say that those are all fixed!

I was surprised that so little seemed left to deal with.

Anyway, I'm in an email conversation with Herr Grundmeyer about my results. He sent me something in incomprehensible English, so I've asked him to write to me in German, which I've studied in the past, so I can translate it myself.

If the 3rd test shows more to handle, well, that would be fine, too!

Tonglen: As for results, some things are better and some things are not. I've only done the first round, mind you.

At this point, my tinnitus is worse, and I now have some light vertigo again, which I've not had for about two years. However, my ability to think is much better, I have more stamina, and I seem more stable day to day.

My temperature still tends to be subnormal, and I do HAVE to take a nap at least once a day. Other annoying symptoms also persist at this point, but nothing debilitating.

Also, I've been off antibiotics now for a little over a month--I stopped Mepron/Zith at a good termination point and let the Zith exit my body before starting the AI drops.

I'm expecting the second set of drops to arrive within a few days!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks for the updates everyone. This is SO helpful.

Two questions:

1. When you folks write to AI (Grundmeyer), do you just write in English or do you translate your message into German before you send it? (Seems like someone mentioned this but I can't find it.)

2. Has anyone noticed if symptoms they've had the longest seem to be the last ones to disappear? (I'm talking about things you can `feel', like tinnitus or anxiety or vertigo, etc.)
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
This kind of stuff is what is being referred to in the documentary, The Living Matrix. Addressing dysregulation seems to be where quantum, physics based medicine is going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-I7JTXCbo

The documentary is fascinating. I am doing NMT and I do not know if it is as effective as or less effective than AI or NES for that matter, which is mentioned in the documentary and which did lead to one woman's healing.. (NES)..

But my body temp has gone up and my hair is not falling out. It could be the cowden herbs.. ??? I'm hanging in with it as the cost is relatively low. Neuromudulation Therapy. Then I plan to look into AI if I feel I need another kind of dysregulation therapy. Energetic drops with NES and AI as opposed to energy field therapy with NMT... all to address dysregulation.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I go to translate.google.com, write my message in English and hit, translate to German.

Then I cut and paste it into the text of the email to Mr. G.

I find he understands it better that way, but he sends his replies back in his own broken Engish, and sometimes it's hard to comprehand his exact meaning.

It may take a few attempts in emails to get the meaning, but he always replies.

LP
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Tracy - your second question:

I find I have revisited some of the first symptoms I had which had not been present for quite some time.

For the most part they have been brief visits but not pleasant most of the time. I am in hopes that my body was bidding them farewell.

As far as translategoogle goes- you can experiment with writing something in English and translating to see if it makes sense before you put it in an email.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
oops - what I meant was to translate it twice - English - German and then to English.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks LP and Nana - yes, I knew what you meant, Nana. Good idea to 'double-check' the translation by translating it back to English. I would not have thought to do that.

[ 04-17-2009, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: Truthfinder ]
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
To those who have completed several courses of AI drops:

Do you feel it has really resolved issues at dna/cellular level? How can you tell?
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
I have finished round one of AI several weeks ago . I have never felt so fatieged and tired as I do now. I am most likely one of the sickest people doing AI on here. I have been diagnosed with M.S. for 19 years and several years ago with lyme and Mycroplasma.I am really hoping this is a good sighn such as feeling bad when one is herxing. Terri
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

As for translating my questions into German--I haven't tried that! I have, instead, worked to make the sentences very, very simple!! No commas. No phrases. Etc.

Then, I have him write back in German. I've used the Google translating engine on his replies, and (from my knowledge of German) these translations seem to be accurate.

I asked him if there was any evidence of Lyme in my second test. He said no--that I was free of Borreliosis now. He also asked for me to send him the results of any test I have done.

I don't know quite where to go with this datum. Since I have tested positive via IgeneX, Bowen Labs (twice--at the highest level!!), and the lab that replaced Bowen and have a low CD57, I really don't know what test I could do that would show if Lyme is gone NOW.

Suggestions??

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Kissis, I'm sorry to hear about the persisting fatigue..... have you written to AI and asked them if this is `normal'?

Also, since it has been `several weeks' since you finished round 1, do you plan to continue the treatment at some point?

All I can say about the `fatigue' thing is that when I have taken homeopathic remedies that worked well for me, I usually experienced profound sleepiness at first. This is considered a very good sign by homeopaths. But this `tiredness' usually does not persist longer than a couple of weeks, and usually there is some improved sense of well-being in the mental department (not necessarily in physical symptoms right away - mental improvements usually come first followed by physical improvement).

Cass, do you think they want `new' tests or `old' tests? It almost sounds like they would like to see any new tests to confirm their findings. (?)
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Tracy,

Yes, he clearly wants new tests. I had a new CD 57 test done about a month before starting the drops, and it was 36--the same as over a year ago!!! I've been treating for Babesia most of that time, and not Lyme.

I'm very interested in what test I should have done now, as my LLMD's plan was for me to go onto IV Rocephin next, plus Bicillin, to treat the Lyme!

Any suggestions????

Love,

Cass A
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
No, Truthfinder I have not written to inquire but it's not a bad idea. But from reading others exp. it sounds similar. I think I just feel extra weak and tired because I usualy am but never at this degre. I just sent in my second test so I will be doing round two when they arive.I payed out big bucks for me so I am going to stick this out while crossing my fingers.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Does anyone know what these drops have done for GiGi at this point? I'm sure some of you still talk to her.
 

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Posted by Lymic (Member # 19335) on :
 
Does anyone know if the drops would expire if not immediately used after receiving them? That is, can I use them a month after receiving them and expect the same potency? Thank you.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I think they are ok a few weeks after you get them since some get stuck in the mail for that long at time, but you might ask.

As for GiGi, she no longer posts here so I don't think we will get further updates from her sadly.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Lymic,
That's a good question about timing of receipt and taking the drops. Please post when you find out!

LP
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I'm going crazy here: I have still not gotten my drops!

They got my payment for 395EU on March 9th and emailed me my analysis the next day. I was told that the remedy would be sent out the 11th.

After waiting a few weeks, I emailed again. This time, I was told they were mailed on March 14th.

On April 6th, I asked them to re-send. They said they would do it the following day.

It is now April 22nd and still no drops.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
kplyme,

I had a bad sore throat with my first round of drops, too. It was very sore and very red, and I also had a few tonsil stones. No sign of white spots in my throat, and no other cold or flu symptoms at that time.

The sore throat started just a day or two after I started the drops. It lasted for about 3 weeks, at which time I caught a cold (air travel, lack of sleep, extremely stressful situation). That is almost all better now and the sore throat is gone.

I mailed the second saliva sample just over a week ago, and am awaiting my 2nd report and 2nd round of drops.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by kplyme (Member # 15317) on :
 
Thanks, Nutmeg. We're on the same schedule.....I too sent my sample back a week ago and am waiting for round 2 and the report. I'm Celiac and tried eating some gluten and I can report that problem has not been cleared.
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
Scott !Question for you !

Did you cleared your metals yet and chemicals.CASSA it seems you are an easy case with less bloackages....NOT my case !I still have to clear many things.

I hope I can clear the bloackages in my spine as WELL one day .

Kissis ..YEs the first round was very tough for me ...even emotionaly ..I could feel things released from MY brain and was in almost tears for NO REASON.

Even on the second round I ended up in bed once i took the drops and was very fatigue as WELL.I have SO many chemical and toxins to release..

One thing IS fascinating.The test with the vials about the ones that show that have been cleared from AI drops ( answers) do really test negative while I tested with biotensor and with pendulum.

OVer the time I could see the paterns of mercury going from high low and more lower...WAS amazing...The ones that I have not clear yet..still show positive...

HAS anybody reached the point of clearinng MIASM , or HAVE had LOW enzymes ...have they been regulated yet in theri case ..I am curious as it will really take me longer to get there than most cases ?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just sent in for round two as well for me and my daughter.

The only noticeable clearing for us with round one is lessened anxiety and depression.

We never eat gluten usually, so haven't tried to see if there is a difference after 1st treatment.

One thing I wonder about that may be related, my daughter has lost her taste for meat completely and has asked me to only give her vegetarian food. She says she cannot mentally think of eating meat. And her tastes have changed over the past month.WE don't eat much meat as a family anyway, but this is a new thing.

Just received my biotenser today, so I will learn to check some things with this.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Metals for me did not show up after round 2. Chemicals were in round 2, 3, and 4. I am sending off today for round 5. So it seems that chemicals have been much more of an issue than metals from their testing. We'll see what comes up next. I had a remarkable result on my latest Environmental Polutants panel showing that I am dumping major amounts of toxins according to the doctor and I attribute it to AI.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
That's great news Scott! Seems like the chemicals remain an issue for me as well although so far the number of them hasn't been as high as I thought it might be. Waiting for #4 and will see what they come up with.

I would like to get tested as I feel like a LOT of toxins have moved out. I tested very strongly for binders throughout #3 and want to see what has been accomplished in these past 4 months (other than the things I can feel).

I had wheat and gluten show up on #1 but I am able to eat it now without feeling insane! I am not overindulging as it will take some time for my gut to heal and I don't want to burden it much right now.

LP - interesting about the meat. I am a meat eater and I have major cravings for meat and salt all the time now. Particularly when I feel metals on the move.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just got test results that I have PKU, or
Kryptopyrroluria. This is the genetic and some believe acquired detox problem.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Wondering if AI therapy can regulate this?

Of if I should take the PKU therapy along with the AI drops:

consisting of large doses of Zinc, Maganese, B-6, Borage and Black Current (Omega -6 fatty acids)

Any thoughts?

LP
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
LP,

PKU and Kryptopyrroluria are two different things. Were you saying you weren't sure which one you had, or that they are the same thing?

This is interesting because Healers Who Share diagnosed me with PKU several months ago and I am in the middle of treatment with that specific remedy from them.

The therapy you mention is for Kryptopyrroluria. Dr. K warns that if you do this therapy, you must supplement with copper as well to keep the zinc from activating HSV.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Sorry, my keyboarding is bad sometimes.

It's KPU which my ND told me stands for Kryptopyrroluria.

I don't really know much about it except for what I google. Dr. K told my ND that a good number of his lyme patients are positive for this inability to naturally detox. What is PKU?
And what is HSV?

I"ll mentin the copper to my ND when I see her on Monday to discuss the treatment.

I'm waiting for a response from A.I to see if I should treat this during the AI therapy.

This sequencing of treatments gets confusing to me.
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
LP,

I agree - figuring out how to sequence treatments is as hard as figuring out which treatments to do.

PKU is Phenylketonuria. If I have it, it is in a mild form as a don't exhibit major symptoms.

HSV is Herpes Simplex Virus.

To read an article which contains Dr. K's view on Kryptopyrroluria (and the zinc/copper issues) go here and click on "Click here for full article":

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Protocols/Herbs-Used-in-Treating-Lyme.html
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks AndrewinCA!
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Waiting now for round 5 and feeling very optimistic that the AI drops are making some nice shifts.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
great to hear. I'm waiting for round 4. There was definitely some major chemical-dumping for me in last round
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
For AI drop-users in the US, how do you pay AI the $10 they request for postage?

I had to send the 2nd sample when I was out of town with no computer and no checkbook, so I didn't pay the postage fee they asked for this time. I do want to pay it, though.

The letter that came with round #2 of the drops today says to pay with postage or a bank note. I doubt they want US postage stamps. Not sure what a bank note is--do they mean a personal check, cashier's check, money order, or what? And do they really want US funds?

I thought about asking them to invoice me through PayPal. What is everyone else doing?

Thanks,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
I've been sending them $10 through paypal. It's easy to set up an account and you just send the money to their email address. That way they don't have to invoice you.

I send them an email giving them a heads up that I have sent payment.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I do it through PayPal as well.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Thank you, Nana and Scott. I will do it that way through PayPal.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I finally got my drops this morning. Does anyone know if they should be stored specially, ie. kept in a dark cupboard?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Yay! I just keep mine out of direct sun.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
So, I started AI yesterday and this morning I had a head full of clear mucus. I've been sneezing and blowing my nose constantly.

Also, my bowels are loose -which is a big change for chronically-constipated me.

I'm not sure if all this is due to AI or coincidental. I'm wondering if anyone else had a similar reaction with it.
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
I put them in refrigirator .
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Zombie, how will you know which is from the AI and which is from cumulative effects of the Progurt working?

In any case, I'd like to get the drops you got.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I never understand why people need to know which is from one thing vs. another. If you take a multi-vitamin and it makes you feel good, do you need to know which of the 100 things in it helped you? As long as you feel better, what does it matter? If you take every potentially helpful treatment and only do them serially when something like Progurt takes a year and something like AI takes a year, you may be delaying your pain and suffering for a long, long time.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
The thing to know would be if one new treatment would be counterproductive if added to another ongoing treatment.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 

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Originally posted by lymeparfait:
The thing to know would be if one new treatment would be counterproductive if added to another ongoing treatment.

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I really can't see how taking a probiotic like Progurt would interfere with AI... It's a food, not a drug.

Also, I have been using Progurt for 3 weeks but suddenly had liquid diarrhea the day I began AI. It just caused me to wonder.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks, Zombie - that's the clarification I needed. I wasn't quite sure if the Progurt had STOPPED working and you were back to your old, `abnormal' self or what.

Yes, LP - I agree.

Usually, I'll know within 10 days how I am reacting to something new. But because my symptoms fluctuate anyway, combined with `incomplete evacuation' and `mechanical slow-transit constipation', it may take longer to understand the effect in the GI department. People who don't have this problem can't relate to it, understandably. Nevertheless, it is a critical consideration for me, personally.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I still think Progurt is great stuff but AI is working on a much deeper level.

According to my first AI analysis, my 2 worst problems are:

1 toxic body burden by recirculating heavy metals
2 dysfunctions/acute blockages in intestines

I strongly feel that the AI drops are resolving these issues.

I have not had a loose BM in YEARS. Since starting the drops 4 days ago, I've been having 2-3 every day.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well I started round two of the drops on Monday, I think I got to three times a day once then down to twice a day and today only one time. The problem is it is making my Trigeminal Neralgia, extreme mouth pain act up. I have written to A1 to see if doing it only once a day will still benifit me and if because of dosing scedual should I take them longer than the two weeks.

It is definitly doing somthing to me, those 5 little drops are very powerfull !
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I agree that probiotics and the AI are fine to take together. It was just a general comment about making sure we all are careful, and understand what we are taking together and why.

Some are novices here, and others are more educated in protocols. We are all learning from each other as well. It's a good thing!

I am still waiting for my round two of AI, but am on the Progurt and the KPU protocol for Dr. K.

I am having some unique things going on. I still have constipation, and now I am getting loads of candida in my mouth! It looks like cottage cheese and is sticky.

I am also curious if the candida release is causing my constipation. Bowels are light yellow light brownish when they appear!

Anyone else have this?

Just wondering if this is from the AI or the Progurt or KPU? Or the combo of it all.

I don't really have to know what thing is producing the candida dumping...but I am very curious as always about new positive things with my body, and am happy something I can actually see is being released.

LP
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
My goodness - everyone seems to have such unique - and sometimes surprising - reactions. I would be SO tempted to take a homeopathic remedy for some of this - like Kissis with the Trigeminal Neuralgia flare - but that's NOT allowed on the AI, I guess.

(Please let us know what the AI folks says, Kissis.)

Very disconcerting for me about NO remedies; it's like taking away my security blanket.

LP, yellow stool can be several things: rapid transit through the GI tract, insufficient bile secretions, certain parasites, eating a lot of rice.... pretty big list. And maybe that candida thing would cause it - I don't know about that one. That's amazing about the candida `dumping' in your mouth.....!
 

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Posted by nyjohn (Member # 15361) on :
 
hi ellen,
according to classical homeopathy texts,
mucus and loose bowels being released from the body is good and it's a sign that you have been given a correct remedy. it means things are releasing/regulating.
so that's good!
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
When you are in AI drops the best is not to be on any homepathic formula I was said.

The reason it to let the body take the entire information and let it do the job.

Also when you take the first drops the body is taking that information as putting it in action ( have tested as when you reach like 10 days on drops the information is about 80 % in the body ) .At the very last few days your body has already takne most of it and start working ( even though was working even before ) but now is adapting strongly to it.

I have tested how mercury was letting released from me as I was taking the drops.Over time ...yes as metals are first that came into my FINDINGS ( due to the bridges) ..I started cleaning them and my candida came up worst.

I knew that as the metals were released I have only one job to do..testing for binders..

I used to test VERY VERY HIGH on A/C in the begining.

ALMOST 2 months in a row.Now I almost do not test for it at all.

If you are having Yeallow /orange Bm than means your liver is not producing enough biles due to the parasites , infections that have already bloacked the liver before drops started .


Also somtimes is so much dumping of the metals released and your liver is not able ( due to the previous inflamation /inflection load) to process some more ...toxins released.

You need to bind them .Avoiding ( if you can) homepathics ( are a NO when in AI drops) ...and medications as well..but when your body needs them desperatly -I was told you can take them.

It is just the fact that will not let the body receive 100% of the information.

I did the treatment on diferent aproach the first and second time testing as I was doing them to undertand the level of working and what was doing .As i was doing other things..I noticed based on testing that I did not reached 100% in the first round as they were interfiering as I did on the second ROUND.

I was able to be off everything ..besides a few symtoms that were scary before I started the second treatment ..knowing that I wanted my body to receive all the information and everything you take is interfiering with it and I also got the answer that I can be off everything the second round .It came out TRUE.

BEcause I tested and saw myself to be true..I managed to not do any kind of treatment with second round.My information was completly absorbed the second round.

I know is hard to do when you already have too much going on and the body is already off balance due to the high levels of toxins and inflamation and you are already off balance.I am talking about the ones that are very sick with active infections and have many bloackages already.

THE DROPS worked 100% and I managed to be off every thing on the second round.

Overtime I also was able to test with vials( that I have had handy as I ordered them exactly as it came in my sons test) ...all the things that originaly came out positive on him came in my case ...so when my drops started I have had them handy to see how my body was affected as I was taking the drops.

I have had handy all the vials and saw how once my body received the information I am releasing them , even the percentage and organs .I could see them overtime droping in percentage ...

Funny that I wanted to do DMSA and ALA a while ago ..and could not due to the hig level of inflamation but now I TEST NEGATIVE on them as I do not need them .

My body has already released mercury from the brain and other cells....over the time ..and now I am no longer having mercury bloackages .THIS IS WHEN MY LYME and ALL COINFECTIONS TESTED STRONGLY negative from MY LLMD last week.

I tested my daughter that has not done the AI.She was positive on MERCURY and tested positive in ALA and DMSA.

The drops definitly helped.I also noticed that every time I treat I see that I wake up a few bugs of borrelia.When the body releases the chemicals and metals...a few CYST that were hiding in them are activated.

I will mention as when I was very high on load of BORRELIA in my brain ( neuro) I was very high on mercury in my brain level 10 from 1-10 and the same amount of borrelia ( ART) my ND that first diagnosed me when still have not seen an ND and done IGENEX at that time.

So releasing them from our body is a MAJOR step as the bugs might be in remission hiding..but can come back.I really am glad so far on what I see with the drops .Hope continues further.

I do not have anymore chemical sensitivety and when I woke on the stores the smells DO NOT BOTHER me any more ( it used to be aproblm e for me for over a decade) even though I have 100% babs/protozoa and other infections lurking in me..but seems that the body can handle them way much better now that the chemicals and food alergies and metals are going down in my case.

I also tested for the bread yesterday ( even though I ate all the time before but I could feel that was making me sick after).I could eat and I was allowed to have with no side efects one piece of grain bread.2 was not OK but ONE was FINE with no problem.ANd I felt no diference at all.BEFORE I could not as it will made me sick and I would feel like enchephalitic in my brain .

So my for son .I also noticed I am craving BUTTER and MEAT....and have noticed that this are great BINDERS in my case when my body is releasing them .MY BM and digestive track seems to recover.Before when I was very sick could not touch butter and meat as I was not ready to digest it...as my digestive track is better I am craving for it .

At my sickest I was in juicing as my gut was acting out on anything I was eating..my liver was exsploding ( insipte of 5 liver flushes and many parasites killing I HAVE HAD DONE) .

I have not tried PROGURT yet,that will be in my future.I also tested very low in probiotics.Interesting as before I needed up to 15 sometimes a day due to the inflamation.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well I got a reply back from A-1 and he said 5 drops 2 x a day will surfice for 2 weeks. I just hope I can make it through the pain.I can barly talk and eating is like torture with this TN . Please guys tell me this is worth it ? I feel like I have to tough this out.
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 
HI Alv

It was really interseting to read your post, esp re the mercury ... great news you are no longer testing positive to chelation for mercury. Will you have any more testing done to verify this or do you feel for sure this problem has gone?

I've decided that I'm going to switch over to AI as Ive been really encouraged by everyone's posts here.

Ive been doing NES (nutrienergetics.com) for a few months and prior to that Field Control Therapy and they do all seem to work in a very similar way, eg on the DNA level and quantum physics level and giving the body the correct information, but it will be more practical and cost effective for me to do AI.

I know I still have a mercury problem and a big detox problem so it will be interesting to see what comes up in the test and how I get on with the drops having tried the other two approaches.
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
One thing SHIMMY!

I am not wasting any more dollar to test.I have been around ANDREW CUTLERS forum 3 years ago.I was not ready for it than.I meet another doctor that aplies it at MY BIOLOGIST dentist.

He would not address the MERCURY if you have a LEAKY GUT.

So I did things one at a time.I reduced the inflamation based in ART , worked on keeping my kidney , liver top work status, cleaned parasites non stop for 3 years( will be a maintanace for the rest of my life)...as I was doing AI ...I found NO NEED for CHELATION.

If my immune system is picking it up and releasing it on its own why do I need to do it.


If the IMMUNE SYSTEM takes the info to correct the ERROR of not recognizing MY MERCURY as a problem...and now is working to get it out..than WHY do I have to go any further.

I have used tablespoon of CLorella and CILANTRO for mercury but seems that AI works in very deeper level ..and my imune is doing its job itself when he was suposed to do it since in the begining.My leaky gut and my kidney back than could not handle the release of more mercury .


THE FIRST thing that I invested on my health 3 years 1/2 ago was REMOVING MY MOLLARS , root canals...did not try to save any of them and all the bridges and fillings over life time .I did not know about lyme than BUT I knew based on HULDA CLARCK that every cronic disease should start from that treatment.

Also my teeth were hurting LIKE hell than .i have been compleining from my jaw for almost 15 year.No one could figure it out.

I was done with MANY types of EXSPLANATIONS from EVERY surgeon and profesor that I have seen in regards to the JAW.NO one even cared to see if there was any cronic inflamation going on .I feel they are a JOKE !!!

ONLY the BIOLOGIST dentist gave me a hint when he saw my mouth that there was a CRONIC inflamation to get at that POINT -while the regular DENTIST was telling me to use tothpaste for SENSITIVE TEETH.Are you kidding me sensitive teeth ?They were hurting like hell!!!They were sensitive for over a decade.


I also have later a MERCURY tatto surgical removal.Beilive it or not 2 years ago..bugs liked to hang at the mercury tatto.I had to do the second surgical removal to another surgeon that knew about lyme and still was trying to convince me that THE TATTO is not doing anything to me.

Seems that THE MERCURY has been licking in my jaw for decades ..since a kid and even though MY BIOLOGIST dentist scraped it ...he could not scrape any further.I have had BONNE mass loss due to the infaction that HANGED out exactly there.

My rest of frontal teeth that never had a ROOT canal and never got filling are left and they are very strong right now.So yes mercury there and bugs were going handy together.

I probably will continue showing chemicals from injections( as I have done SO MANY to fix my mollars and CREATE exspensive BRIDGES THOUSAND of DOLLARS wasted -WHO KNEW ?) and I was killing myself .

I am not going to waste MONEY to proove this and THAT as long as I test negative energeticly for anything.

I tested with BIOTENSOR and with Pendulum.AI goes even deeper that this two and ART as well.

Only by testing I got to where I am .I never did anything that IS NOT TESTING for ME.Inspite of MY LLMD wanted me to try.ONCE I knew I was alergic to CEPHARIN( that was the only time I did not tested for it with my llmd ) as MY LLMD wanted to try KETEK and this ( I did not had the drugs with me and was first time trying )....

I told MY LLMD I was alergic ( tested in germany as I could not use it a decade ago) .My LLMD did not beilive me or better say thought I was having a herx.

I was really scared and took it but instead of the whole dosage I took 1/2 .In two weeks I start caughing and I looked as ASTHMA atack.

Since than I never ever tried anything without testing it in my body .VERY SIMPLE as that .WHen my body said NO for one thing I never took it.I move on to the one that TESTED positive only .So I based my progress only on TESTING whatever was the thing that I was using, herbs, homepathic, drugs, vitamins every thing.

Back than I did not master any of test.I was too SICK but was still trying and was not giving up but not trusting myself either.

I went to MY ND that is master on TESTING .I tested and MY ND said NO WAY ..your body said BIG NO.CALLED my LLMD to let know that was killing me and making ME WORST!


The money I spent on vials ( out of curiosity ) to FIND if it was WORTHIT on what it says is doing was enough for me to continue .

YES I test it as I needed to know if this really is working.So I ordered all the vials that MY SON tested previous to me POSITIVE.Than I ordered some mines.

Over the treatment of the begining ...I could see the levels droped.It took over a month to see that my body was releasing mercury ...THIS IS ALL I CARE!!!

The confirmation that I test NEGATIVE for DMSA and ALA and I test negative to take it IS GOOD ENOUGH for me.

You can all draw your own conclusion and make your own decision.For me was enough to see what is working .

Brussels beilives on what she is doing as SHE KEEP testing NON stop.It took time but I did not give up to master it and I am glad I did.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Is it super important to do the drops before Bionic treatment or would it work to do the drops after treatment?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
It works no matter when you do it, but I am told there is a possibility you may not need the bionic treatment after the AI drops.

AI will clear many things, so after treatment you will know where you stand and what is left to work on if anything!

Most doing the AI therapy had already been to Germany and had the bionic treatment first. Since I had to cancel my trip to Germany in March, it was recommended to me to start the drop therapy first. I also added the Progurt Therapy.

So I am now doing the AI drops, and may do the bionic at a future time.

lp
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
lymeparfait--

That would be wonderful if it were true, but allergie-immun is also finding new allergies as they go along & constantly updating their database. In my case, the AI has been helpful but doesn't eradicate physically-expressed allergies completely. For example, I am still allergic to gluten and even after my heavy metals allergies were supposedly "cleared", the progurt still sequestered heavy metals, I'm still finding deposits of mercury in areas like my pharynx, and I still tested positive for a tuberculosis homeopathic despite "clearing" this allergy too.

I am not bashing this therapy as I think it has been very helpful for jump-starting re-regulation of cellular communication (which is really the end goal), but it can't do it all by itself.

It would be wise to do this before the bionic tho, as it will certainly make photon treatment less redundant and more productive.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Speaking of which.. just got my round 4 back. 6 chemical substances and 3 energetic blockages. woohoo
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
Hi Alv,

Just wondering how long you have been doing AI and how many rounds you have completed.

My integrative doc feels that metals are my no. 1 issue and wants me to begin iv chelation asap.

I'm seeing him in 2 days and will get the results of my edta challenge then.

I'm thinking I want to hold off on chelating until after my next AI results come back...
 

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Posted by Alv (Member # 15192) on :
 
I would not mess up on any of the IV.I have done so many things before I did AI.HAVE finished the 2nd round and I showed up metals for the very first time.

I beilive that many things I have done have helped my body in one way or the other ..I have done major things..and killing also COinfections..before doing the drops.Left with a few now.

If AI was the last thing I needed than so be it.I am not OK with IV again and never was.I would go for DMSA or DMPS and ALA based on ANDREWS CUTLER protocoll as the safest.You can not play with mercury .

I have done through trial and errors many mistakes..and I can not recomend this to people.

If your body has too many infections..going on they need to be addressed as well and have your kidney and GUT top function ..to get them out...

We are all diferent and is very hard to match one with the other.

Some have done some protocoll and some not and the priorities of the treatment are difernt from one or the other due to the DIFERENCE of all the reason we are sick .

My point is ..when I was sick ...and DID major KILLING of BUGS...I have had to stop KILLING for 2 MONTHS.I needed to open up my kidney and bind the metals .It was like playing hide and sick .

Too many things going on at the same time and MY ND had to change the protocoll to keep me alive and bind the metals that WERE RELEASED ( due to MAJOR killing I DID without knowing I have had LYME and coinfections ).

I have been doing almost 4 years cleansing and HERXING non stop.

So I really can not allow myself compare with somebody that has just got bit or had never had mercury on his mouth.You really need somebody to guide but based on your BODIES priority and needs.

The BODY can handle SO MUCH and can CLEAN a CERTAIN amount.I noticed that too much inflamation and infections going around..than the liver is cloged and can not get them out quckly it will take time.

MY SON for instance ..he did not have mercury alergy and HE never showed MERCURY with my ND ...but he still is slowly detoxing as I CAN NOT BE agreasive with him .He is just a KID.So he is cleaning very slowly also due to the fact he has more active coinfections as I DO and a slow second phase of the LIVER .

ALSO I did 5 liver flushes that allowed me to go with higher dosages comparing to any other person while my son had hard to deal with certain amount.
HIs liver is cloged and ispite of doing many things...it was never ready to detox any of the kinds of toxins fast.

I am strugling with him and be patient.

I WAS WAY AGREASIVE with MY SELF On my treatment for 4 years.I was LUCKY that HAVE done major cleansing before I found out about LYME.MY LLMD said YOU ARE READY TO KILL once learned on what I have done.

This might as well be the reason I was OFF antibiotics on 19 months when I have seen people at MY LLMD office that THEY have had PORTERS in their chest for 5 years and THEY WERE NEVER SICK as IN MY CASE.I was more severely sick than ANYBODY ELSE.They still are in Antibiotics.

I decided to aproach with a diferent treatment as I did as I DID not accepted to STAY On antibiotics all my life.NO WAY .I used every thing I COULD to be on top of INFECTIONS and DETOX.

So DETOXING has been non stop for almost since 4 years ago.BINDERS have been in my system non stop.

I have had the disease ALL MY LIFE and HAVE all the coinfections of EUROPE AND USA!THink about that .
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
Thanks Alv,

I will bring my AI analysis + booklet with me when I see my dr. and I will ask to hold off on chelation for the time being.

He seems like he is open minded -he trained in Germany and speaks the language fluently.

I strongly feel that AI is doing something for metals -I have that metallic taste in my mouth since starting the drops 5 days ago.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Reading these posts back and forth makes me realize I'm in a whole different world. I am absolutely clueless about all this testing, metals, etc. If it truly takes all that to get better, I'm a dead man.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

I've completed Round 2 of the AI drops now, and am waiting the week to send in the new sample for Round 3, per the written instructions.

I just had a CD-57 test done, and it came back at 48. The last two, first done in 2007 and then in December 2008, were both 36--exactly the same level. So, it appears to be coming up!

I've been taking my temperature more regularly, and it is still trending subnormal, with few readings in the 98 and above area.

I had some previous symptoms that had disappeared start up and then go away: vertigo, headaches, runny nose, back pain.

A lump I've had in my arm for years is now nearly gone.

Tinnitus is worse.

Thinking and ability to persist in a task requiring thinking are BETTER!

I have more appetite--the body wants to be fed!

I'm still having to take a nap every afternoon, and have some insomnia.

I am continuing to take the vitamins and minerals relating to seizures and severe leg cramps, but no herbs and no homeopathics.

Also, I do take the methylation factors, chlorella, and zeolite to help get toxins out of the body, which I was doing before I started the AI drops. I also started a mild pro-biotic a few days ago.

I'm planning to take some anti-fungal stuff after I send off my test sample while waiting for the next round of drops to arrive.

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks for the AI reports all!

Joey, I appreciate your candor, as we all go along more is being revealed to us following your footsteps as to exactly what AI can do for each individual.

Do you believe it has to do with what disregulation was inherited, and deep in DNA, versus what was acquired as far as what is cleared? For example, have you heard of anyone ever cleared long term with the gluten intolerance allergy?

Any way, the only disregulation clearing I believe my daughter and I have truly experienced is emotional clearing of anxiety and depression. It appears to be directly related to AI.

Whether that remains is to be seen. But in my daughter, it has been dramatic and positive. A complete turn around.

We have not received our reports after round one, and have not tried gluten to test yet.

Also, does anyone have a good , mild detox protocol or product that would be easy for a teen to do along with AI.? She still gets migrains and does have symptoms of recirculating toxins. Would love to give her some relief.

Thanks, LP
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 
Hi Alv

Thanks very much for your reply. Its very interesting that you dont need to chelate, thats great. I totally understand where you are coming from regarding tests. I think its great that you persevered and trusted yourself with the testing and that has worked for you. I am not confident enough to do that for myself yet but my practitioner does dowse for me.

I know HC's protocol has worked for a lot of other people too...though I only did her parasite treatment for a short while myself.

Thanks again, all the best with your treatments!

Anne
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 

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Originally posted by m0joey:
lymeparfait--

In my case, the AI has been helpful but doesn't eradicate physically-expressed allergies completely. For example, I am still allergic to gluten and even after my heavy metals allergies were supposedly "cleared", the progurt still sequestered heavy metals, I'm still finding deposits of mercury in areas like my pharynx, and I still tested positive for a tuberculosis homeopathic despite "clearing" this allergy too.

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Originally posted by lymeparfait:
Received my 2nd set today.
Shows industrial toxins, mostly pesticides and a wood preservative.

Will post symptoms if any.

LP

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Originally posted by m0joey:
Maybe after the treatment is complete, gluten allergy wouldn't be there anymore, I don't know. I think it is definitely in the DNA because my father who is not sick has similar allergies to me for whatever reasons that built up through the generations: lack of oxidation, emotions, toxins, etc.

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I'm not holding my breath over AI clearing my gluten issues either. My otherwise healthy brother is also intolerant.

He had a test done that showed he inherited 2 gluten-intolerant genes -1 from each of our parents (sorry, don't know the name of the lab).

My feeling is that AI can resolve 'pseudo' allergies (disregulations) but perhaps not 'real' allergies that are hardwired into the DNA.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
I am certain that the AI is very therapeutic at the least. After I started round 3, my energetic doc had to treat me for chemicals in my blood. As soon as I started round 4, she had to do the same thing again. In fact, the toxicity of the chemicals was at 50% above what it should be in my blood. That is right around the level of my heavy metals about a month ago (it's now 20-30%)

I'm honestly not fazed much by the fact that I still have expressed allergies. My previous post wasn't bashing the treatment.. just saying that people shouldn't expect to be eating gluten, sugar, dairy again after 2 weeks of treatment. I'm more interested in the overall disease that results from dysregulation, and it seems thus far that the AI is able to provide information to the body that no other treatment has.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Scott anyone? Can anyone now doing the AI drops eat gluten yet?

I have other family members with gluten intolerance too but part of me thinks we all could have gotten Lyme disease passed down to us from one relative. I have been bitten after that. I still have hopes of being able to eat a little bit of gluten some day. Like a donut a pizza some bread some real pasta in Italy, brownies and other gluten fantasies.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Having briefly read this thread , I would like to add some personal observations. This is just a brief appearance by myself and I will go back into retirement after I hit the ``send'' button.

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Not all dysregulations or allergies are found during the first AI testing. As AI testing continues through the many different body systems, more are found and more are corrected as testing continues. Reprogramming/Clearing/Correcting the allergies or dysregulations or errors stored in the electromagnetic system does not mean all the accumulated toxins are then gone from the body instantly, as expressed by someone here. The correction is made by correcting the polarities.

As the Immune system then starts to recognize the metals, fungi, mold, and thousands of environmental toxins, and as the emotional releases start to happen, the body builds new regulation pathways, and starts to dispose of the toxins. It no longer tries to hide them, adding more burden to the body, as it has done probably for many many years as we took medicines and substances the body did not know what to do with. Some of these made us ill.

As the wheat is again acceptable as a good basic food, when the polarity has been adjusted during the correcting process, the leaky gut can eventually start to heal and the toxins are no longer being released into the blood stream, entering the damaged brain blood barrier (toxic metals?) that put many of us on a wild neuro ride. The gut will take several months to heal, so I am told.

Certainly, all the toxins accumulated over many years, often since birth, are not expelled overnight. Some of them are, but it will take weeks, months and for some longer before the effects can be fully felt. Sometimes it may be the industrial chemical that is contained in the wheat food that has not been cleared yet!! If all the toxins were to head for the exits at once, we would probably die in the process. We have masterful organs, but they do have limited capacity.

I was aware from my training with Dr. K., but still surprised how many emotional blockages we seem to brush under the rug over our lifetime and the number of conflicts and and inherited toxins we can store from our ancestors. I suppose -- just as we inherit the blue or brown eyes, certain talents, we inherit some of their conflicts that were probably passed down to them by earlier generations. All these are engraved as an electromagnetic pattern in our DNA and cause us to respond in certain ways, sometimes hanging on to toxins that will eventually cause us to become chronically ill. As some and eventually all these are found via the AI therapy and the errors corrected, healing can begin. Spirit, soul, body.

Photons are not used in the AI therapy process (PSP = Polarity Signature Programming) It is merely a process of finding the errors and adjusting of the polarities throughout the whole system.

I know from experience when using photons in the past, which I no longer do, many toxins are being mobilized. That is when I also learned on my own body that, if the body does not recognize them, i.e. when allergic to any of them, these toxins are then merely shifted around within the system and stored. Even though I had been very well for many years, I started to become very ill, with many unpleasant neurological problems.

If the body does not recognize any of these mobilized toxins (metals, chemicals, fungi, etc.), i.e. we are allergic to them, as became obvious to me because we started to feel worse and worse, I realized that these are merely shifted from one place to the other to be deposited in any body compartment available. As some time passed, I became very frightened and very disillusioned, as I was going from very well to worse very rapidly. My husband lost all mobility literally from one day to the next, and could no longer walk at all or put a spoon to his mouth. Today he shuffled a deck of cards and played solitaire. This is what happens as the regulation circles are being changed with AI.

We had not taken the AI test at that time yet. Now I know that all the IV's, the pills, the supplements many of which we were allergic to at the DNA level, could not possibly bring the results we wanted. It became very obvious to me that for myself and my husband I had caused an avalanche within our bodies which only started with the application of biophotons (with or without nosodes) and I became very worried, started my search and found AI.

Sometimes certain chemicals are combined with certain foods and cause allergic responses. All need to be found and corrected.

I compare our own situation to one particular MS case that was treated successfully with AI (from wheelchair to bicycle) where it took about a year for all the chaos in the system to be eliminated. Fortunately, the person was a younger person. The older the person, the more accumulation, the longer it takes to clear them over time. We are finding this out now. Nobody can forecast what is permanent - but we know synapses do regrow. All takes time and a lot of patience and hope, and continuing the drops.

The body is working day and night when the AI changes are taking place. Mainly at night when all other activity is absent. And for some the night is not long enough to accomplish all, so we felt very tired during the daytime. I can feel the effects of the drops within an hour of taking them. By using photons, I had mobilized an avalanche of toxins that basically could not find the backdoor to get out. I was allergic to most of them and did not know it. My husband had all the major ones - wheat, corn, soy. Now we know why all soy-based supplements didn't work before !!!!! Every time we took any, we stressed our body more.

For most people, the sequence in AI testing has to follow the different''wrong'' paths the body had taken over the years. I liken it to a traintrack - a blockage here, removal, taking another turn, a blockage there; it may take many turns and only very little and minor improvement before all blockages - allergies - dysfunctions - errors in the system are corrected. Sometimes the last blockage found, the last switch brings the turnaround. But the process has to go backwards the very same way as the dysregulations set in. If the body does not know how to handle a substance we take in, it stores it; the more, the worse. For some, benefits start immediately and/or partially as toxins can start to release. There is a huge amount of emotional clearing! Cry me a river.

A friend, just recently lab diagnosed with Lyme, is showing many improvements on AI drops, now bottle #3. Her old depression left with bottle #1. Her cat which she had to move to the basement because she became so allergic to it - is now back with her in the rest of the house. She is very excited and only concentrating on positives in her life, leaving the other behind - starting a vegetable garden and planting a tree! She has lost a couple of her major pain symptoms. She is much less concerned with Lyme at this point and doing what feels good.

We have a dynamic system, one part dependent on the other. I keep thinking of the bicycle I rode almost seventy years ago, with the dynamo on the wheel turning on my headlights!! If the dynamo didn't touch the wheel, or the wheel wasn't turning, no lights.
If you stop after the first bottle, or second bottle, you probably will not reach the point where all errors have been found and eliminated to where the body can function unencumbered. So AI's mantra is ``keep taking the drops'' until your symptoms are gone or until they can no longer find any dysregulations when testing.

The first two or three rounds are the easiest. Getting rid of the most obvious problems. Then AI gets busy changing the polarity addressing the nervous system, the synapses, and so much more - most of it I do not understand and AI does not have the time to give me more than a few hours of lectures over the phone. I am very grateful for that. When all the vibrating sensations are finally gone every day and every night, that is all I care about at this moment. Luckily I am almost there. A lot of toxins exit through the eyes - mainly chemicals.

I am glad that I did not attempt KPU when I heard about it originally, and would not attempt that program as long as my system is not clear of dysregulations. I have heard years ago from Dr. K. that many people are allergic to zinc! But this is based on ART testing, not AI's testing method. We suffered enough due to not really understanding and knowing facts.

Our aim is to start eliminating the toxins and, extremely important, releasing the emotional conflicts and stored pain memories. AI seems to be one of the easiest psyche couches. The other day, I relived an event in my life from WWII. As I was sitting on the couch quietly one evening, this memory - like an old movie was running before my eyes: A 500 ton bomb falling near my home, accompanied by the sound of a tornado, knocking the air out of me for a moment - just as I lived through it more than sixty years ago. I clearly relived it -- my childhood friend sat next to me and my Mom across from me in the bunker underground - all of us the picture of horror. My Dad was the warden
making sure all people reached the bunker on time.

It is quite common to relive old pains - marked in the DNA as an electromagnetic pattern from many years ago. All subjective - and it disappears within a short time. The hip pain that I experienced several years ago during a fall reappeared recently - that's all I need, so I thought - no, it disappeared totally after 3 days. The pain was tolerable, but I definitely remembered the accident. DNA memory removed.

AI is not concerned with the details of the emotional conflicts. It merely finds the blockages when testing and corrects them. The correct information is infused into the water. With the reprogramming, the allergies are lifted, the body starts to recognize the toxins, the memories, all the stuff it had been packing away somewhere in some body compartment without ever being able to eliminate them, thereby lowering our immunity and making us susceptible to any microorganisms, Lyme, parasites, viruses, endlessly. The body was not able to distinguish good from bad and accumulated toxin thereby damaging the terrain where many pathogens would be able to take up housekeeping safely. Dr. K. published about that in the nineties. Suggest you read it again - I had posted it many different times (``Heavy Metals and Chronic Disease'' during the ten years I had been posting on Lymenet.

I think I said it above, but will repeat it to respond to remarks about ``still retaining toxins'', thankfully, our body is a highly intelligent work of art. It knows that if it were to get rid of all toxins and unwanted medicines we had accumulated over a lifetime all at once after taking a few drops of informed water, it would not get us well, but kill us instead. For further protection, the body seems to grow fungi, but we often then become allergic to fungi, mold, etc. These allergies were lifted with the first AI test, but again it will take time for the die-off. Our organs only have limited capacities.

I have often heard it said - it took years to accumulate, it will take time to get rid of it. And the longer the system had to live with it, the longer it will take to get it out. Age plays a role - .Biological information does not work at the molecular level, but rather via the electromagnetic imprint (Polarity Signature Programming = PSP).

It doesn't matter much to try to figure out which allergy causes what -- rather, per AI, it is the combination of all errors that cause the problems; these same errors causing different problems for different people. We are unique.

So I don't expect instant rewards, but a few, savoring even the very the small ones as little as they may be, until the system can shake itself out and improve step by little step every day, with every drop. With AI, I have found that it often means 4 steps forward, three steps back. But we still gain the one with every move. Like a fever, it has to reach the highest point before it can do the repair. My husband is doing just that. AI confirms that this is often so. All body systems are addressed, as you can tell by studying your first test results that contains all the important details. They will not mention many of these in future tests, because it would be way too cumbersome to do that every time. The just go on and find.

For some people it will take three months, for some people it will take a year, with checkups/controls the following year.

The main message for me: when trying to mobilize toxins in our system through any means (medicines, biophotons, herbs, physical/structural treatments, exercise) it will not bring total success or any success as long as the immune system does not recognize the toxins that are being released, as long as it is allergic to any of them. If we stir things up, try to mobilize toxins through the different means, while the immune system does not recognize them as a toxin or misinterprets any, it is forced to stashing them away in any available body compartment, joint, organ, etc. No gain this way, just more misery now or down the road and another aching joint. So getting rid of these dysfunctions, allergic reactions, reprogramming, in my mind, should be done before anything else. All else causes added stress and weakens and robs the system of more energy and resources.
That is what we finally figured out. I have talked about this before.

I had learned many years ago from Dr. K. that if allergic to a substance, the body does not know how to get rid of it.\ It also causes us to be unable to absorb certain substances properly. If a wheat sensitivity, hidden or known, lasting long enough, to damage the small intestines, many become iron deficient, because the gut is damaged by the allergy and will not be able to absorb nutrients the way it should I was not aware of how many we really had been dealing with most of our lives. ART did not detect them at the DNA level.

Now through AI, I learned that even the worst, wheat allergies, can be eliminated through DNA corrections permanently. They have never had a case in many years where a wheat allergy had to be treated again once it has been corrected. We can then eat all the wheat we want and even brush our teeth with wheat-containing toothpaste, or eat the sausage containing wheat, or eat the eggs from chicken who live on grain, and then no longer be stressing our Autonomic Nervous System. Live and learn, and learn more.

Sometimes chemicals are part of any food and if that is the case, all have to be found and treated. That means all the layers in the system have to be tested and errors found.

All the above stems from my own more recent observations and asking questions and learning. Even the memory pattern of Lyme is engraved in the DNA - while the real bugs are long gone. I would like them to stay ``gone'' and no longer make the idea of Lyme my constant companion. Therefore I shall now go back to my beloved retirement from anything called Lyme. We are doing nothing but the AI therapy until we get the'' all clear'' . My husband will probably take a year or longer. Chaos in the system.

We are not doing KPU while some of the energetic blockages remain, because I do not want to force any allergic toxins into the system before they are all dealt with. And I am certain that when we are done with AI, we will not have to worry about any blocked pathways. Because that is what AI is all about. It takes time. Life has become quite simple with 3x5 drops of ``informed'' water a day for a couple of weeks. The break in between is nice, but the body keeps working with the new knowledge - that I can feel.



Take care.

P.S. If you want to contact me at home, please do. [email protected]

P.P.S. and please note, no, I don't get paid by anyone, and I have nothing to sell but goodwill. I am also wearing a bulletproof ricocheting vest and have a spam filter!

Thank you for some of the nice notes I received in recent months. I apologize for not having been very good at answering.

From my observation, most commonly found dysregulations among people who suffer
from chronic Lyme or chronic ailments are:

Wheat/Gluten/Gliadin (many children are born with these today)
Corn
Soy
(This includes supplements and substances made from these ``foods''. My guess is that glutathione frequency also falls into this connection, as do many of the soy originating supplements,phosphatydil cholines, lecithin, etc. etc. I have long wondered why we don't have enough glutathione? You may want to check this out yourself and see what you find out. I have been wondering about this for a while)\

Most fungi and mold, penicillins
Copper
Lead
Nickel
Mercury
Many chemical substance groups - any of the some 60,000 we are exposed to daily
(I have discovered that for me chemicals/neurotoxins cause most the burning and the vibrating sensations). Testing positive for a number of chemicals - means Groups of chemicals, not a single chemical substance.

Unresolved emotional conflicts from present life and ancestors, including miasms TB, syph type, yersinia, etc.
Many energetic blockages caused by the above and combinations of the above, including nerve/synapse problems, GI blockages, organ blockages, all being addressed by AI over time. Only some can be addressed with every test and bottle. Testing positive for a number of chemicals - means Groups of chemicals, not a single chemical substance.
Energetic blockages caused by unresolved emotional conflicts of present and inherited from ancestors.

Finding the cause.

[ 05-05-2009, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Thank you for spelling all of that out for us. Much better job than I could have done. So glad you dropped by!

This is why I said I am leaning toward this as a stand alone therapy.

Repair the damage, get the systems working properly and the body can do what it is supposed to do.

Someone asked if anyone is able to eat gluten yet. YES!!


5 months ago if I even looked at a slice of bread I was in trouble - eggs joined the club along with dairy.

Today I am having a "home alone day" and have been eating a little crazy for me. Just killed off a mug of java chip ice cream while watching the ball game.

This morning I enjoyed three eggs and brown rice toast.

I east pizza on occasion, and burgers complete with bun!

My normal diet consists of quite healthy food but now that I can eat these things..... well you understand.

I am still healing my gut so I don't go crazy with these foods but I am able to eat them without a problem.

Thanks Gigi
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
I did round one of AI in January and it said I cleared gluten. It is now May and I still cannot eat gluten. I am on round 3 now, but I think it will take the gut a long time to heal.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Gigi thank you for the reply. It gives me food for thought.
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
Gigi - thanks for coming back and sharing more info on AI.

Some questions for all who have done Bionic treatment and are doing AI:

Can the Bionic and AI be used concurrently? I assume some of you are currently overlapping both of these treatments. Or have you stopped using photons while doing AI? I understand the course of AI can be quite long, so are you alternating modalities?

I know some people are going to be concerned about whether AI should be completed before beginning Bionic treatment. It sounds like that is what Gigi is advocating, although might that not be practical for some people? (e.g. those with raging infections that need to be controlled by some type of killer - abx, herbs, etc.)

As always, isn't energetic testing the best tool to determine the ideal treatment order for each individual?

Opinions, please...
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
I am not doing bionic treatments while doing A I.

I test everything, including the A I drops. The first remedy I could only take 1 x 3 but have been able to do five drops since then.

The drops are definitely an individual treatment. The information in the drops are for you alone. As a dear friend recently said to me "one persons lyme or babesia etc., is not another persons".

When the two weeks are up they test to no longer take. I have hung on to my old ones and they always test no once I am finished. Could just be me.

Gluten - as Gigi explained, there are many other ingredients in there - chemicals or groups of things that could be the cause.

One of the chemicals a lot of us showed an allergy to is one that has mercury in it that they use in grain silos.

Might not be just gluten, something in a particular oil? Could be many things.

I have been free of lyme for 8 months. The people in the lab at A I can find none. Metals, fungus, yeast and chemicals are on their way out. I prefer to let them leave at their own pace rather than use killers and chelators.

I used them all in the past when the allergies were all there - like fanning the fire.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
A couple of things Gigi said specifically that made my ears prick up....

``ART did not detect them at the DNA level.'' (She was speaking here about allergies and sensitivities.)

So, does this mean that ART testing simply CANNOT `see' these problems at all - ever - or does this mean that ART techniques can be modified - perhaps the right questions asked - to reveal these problems? And if ART is incapable of detecting these susceptibilities at the DNA level, then does the same hold true for ANY type of muscle testing or dowsing?

``Even the memory pattern of Lyme is engraved in the DNA - while the real bugs are long gone.''

Which is why, IMHO, antibiotic treatment will always have it's limitations in a certain subset of the population, even at this point in time. And perhaps more importantly, future generations may inherit dysfunctions associated with the Lyme `complex', even if the bacteria were eliminated from the planet yesterday. Just something to consider if you have kids. I'll always believe that in some energetic way, I inherited `Lyme' from my father.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Question to people who have not started AI on the full dose of 5 drops, three times a day:

If you start at lower dose, do you still stop after 2 weeks, or 2 weeks after you reach full dose?

I'm just about to send off my test,


Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
You take it for two weeks, 3 times a day regardless of the number of drops.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Andrew--

If I could go back, I would finish AI before I started the Bionic. Especially with your (and my) issues, the bionic will may improve your symptoms slightly, but might also make you a lot worse.

Think about it this way.. I treated with the bionic aggressively for about 4 months, barely improved and actually regressed in some ways.... now I'm treating emotions & on round 4 of AI and have improved noticeably. In retrospect, the decision is easy.

No matter what tools we use, the product of all our analysis will be to want to kill infections. If the underlying problems aren't corrected, the milieu will continue to be distorted and be hospitable to pathogenic forms of bacteria/viruses/fungus. In essence we're just two- and three-folding our suffering in exchange for a few months of remission. Being patient and giving your body the correct information first pays off in the long run.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
I am not going to disagree with Joey, but I would like to know what treating aggressively with the bionic means? The bionic is not to be used aggressively after you have done the initial treatments from what I understand.

Take Nanadubo who benefited from the bionic and is now using the AI. She did not use the bionic aggressively once back from Germany.
 

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Posted by Ocean (Member # 3496) on :
 
I'm sorry if I missed this question/answer...but can you do AI and abx or natural treatment for Lyme at the same time, or is that a bad idea???

I am very very interested in this for my son and I(and the rest of the family if we had the money right now).

Thanks,
Ocean
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
People respond differently to the bionic treatment for lyme. From what I gather, the people that benefited significantly from a handful of bionic treatments have more classical lyme disease with coinfections, and not so much chronic fatigue syndrome (defined by systemic anaerobic metabolism, postexertional malaise, orthostatic intolerance) For me, energetic tests didn't show much if any improvement for anything besides lyme, so I began to treat those other infections which were just as pressing as lyme itself with the bionic. This meant avg 4x/week.

Yes in retrospect this was too much, so I can't say if I would have regressed if I did 1x-2x/week (per Dr. W's revised recommendations). But I can say with a high degree of certainty that neither approach would have been enough to kill off my bugs when the anaerobic metabolism isn't addressed (too easy for them to come back).

Both changing anaerobic metabolism to aerobic (HBOT, ozone, valkion etc) and treating underlying allergies have to do with changing the milieu into a healthy one.
 

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Posted by nyjohn (Member # 15361) on :
 
in regards to doing the a-i drops before doing the bionic...and this would only be my opinion...
when doing bionic, you must not be on abx. i think the same goes for a-i drops.
there has been some talk saying that it might be a mistake to do the bionic first.
i think that statement would be wrong. i am not taking the a-i drops, though. yet, i did do the bionic treatments.
in my meager opinion, to go off of the abx to treat with a-i would be dangerous. the lyme is the nastiest of all of our toxins and bugs. the metals and allergies and dysfunctions do not replicate like the lyme buggers do. i would think it would be of upmost importance to stop the lyme in its tracks asap. that is why we take the abx in the first place. to unpeel the layers, you need to start on the outside, with the most obvious and damaging symptoms/illnesses. and, as we should know here on lymenet- the worst is the lyme.
the bionic does stop the lyme for most people. then the rest can be taken care of while the lyme has been tko'd.

just my opinion. i understand why we get sick with lyme (ie, coinfections, dna dysfunctions, etc). but- we had them before the lyme got us sick and we were living life ok, no? i don't think that something like a-i would stop lyme from replicating and spreading throughout the body while doing just a-i. that long-term approach could still allow the bugs to do their thing. again, i will probably get flamed for saying this- but i really think that it must be stressed that you need to kill that lyme first so it doesn't get worse!
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I would have ideally done AI drops first and photons later. The photons released many toxins, metals, etc. that the body may not know how to properly handle/excrete prior to AI. So, my thought (and no one knows) is that AI then Bionic would have been my ideal order.
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
Could some of you (Scott, Joey...) answer my question about whether you are interleaving treatments with the Bionic while doing AI treatment?

Since both of them are relatively long-term treatments, trying to figure out the best way to stage them (along with other treatments) isn't easy.

Doing AI first may be ideal, but it is encouraging that everyone who has done the Bionic first and then AI is doing well now. So it may work either way.

Thanks!

[ 05-06-2009, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: AndrewInCA ]
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Andrew--

I hope you read my previous post. yes I am doing better now but I certainly took a roundabout way to get here.

I am barely using the bionic now despite still having bugs aplenty to deal with due to the likelihood, as scott said, that it would just shuffle around the toxins or bugs.

I feel much more comfortable resuming bionic treatment after AI is finished...if it is still necessary then
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I have done Bionic treatments while on AI. I personally feel comfortable doing it and energetically, it seems ok for me. That said, it is generally not advised as I understand.

Doing Bionic first was a bit bumpy, but I have not had the opportunity to do it the other order to compare.
 

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Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Thanks Gigi for your nice and detailed post. I think I got the general idea!

--
NYJohn, I guess I understand what you mean. I was also with high load of borrelia that were literally eating me up alive and I wouldn't be able to probably survive any other long term treatment without lowering borrelia load FAST.

I guess there are different types of people, different diseases. Many people have a sort of low grade but chronic infection, with milder symptoms, than it would be probably best to do the opposite, first AI then BIonic to help clear die off toxins...

but in a case like mine, where symptoms grew exponentially every day when I got active borrelia, I wonder how much I was going to be able to wait and see my body changing with AI but not using killers.

In any case, loading the system with toxins by overkilling is never a good idea. No matter what killing method we use. Instead of going forward, we go backward, that's almost certain!

A possible idea of protocol for the high load germ people could be a combination of the two?

Some AI drops, then in between AI bottles, get a Bionic session, then again back to AI after a while and so on? Just an idea...
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
Brussels,

That's what I was thinking (alternating therapies), and it sounds like several people are are doing exactly that. I'm sure it is best to space the modalities out as much as possible so you don't have them overriding each other.

Thanks Scott and Joey for your responses - they were helpful. It is difficult to figure out the best way to try these new treatments.
 

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Posted by nyjohn (Member # 15361) on :
 
i was saying in my case, i was getting worse every week with the lyme, so i needed to kill it fast, or at least stop the rapid progression of getting worse. i think that if i had stopped the abx for a long-term treatment with a-i, i would have been at a high risk for more neurological damage by the lyme, and also risking going into deeper depression and despair about my deterioration.
i have yet to do the a-i, and perhaps i did stir up some things with the bionic treatment, but i am very glad i was able to do it and get myself off of the abx, which were not only killing my bank account but were also adding more toxins to my body by the day. i could feel the abx hurting me.
i figured that if i can kill the bb, which was stressing my body and mind out so horribly, then my body, assisted by other less invasive approaches (such as a-i, homeopathy, etc) can then save its energy to work on the rest of my issues.
if the a-i were to take me many months to realign things, prior to attacking the lyme directly, i don't know if i would have been able to make it..physically or mentally. my spirits were down and i needed to know i was about to heal. and the treatments in germany brought me out of some serious pains both body and mind.
now i feel i am ready to sort out the rest. yes, i still have moments as some symptoms creep back here and there, but things are now able and ready to be worked out, and i feel i am moving forward and leaving more behind.
i am thankful for those who are using the a-i approach are having such good luck with it and can share their experiences with us.
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 
Yes thanks to Gigi for that post!

I think it makes sense to alternate too, that is was I am planning to do, although i havent started AI yet. I think in my case too I dont think that I could wait for months and months without specifically treating the infections.

Having said that I did another energetic therapy, which is similar to AI called Field Control Therapy for 5 months prior to having photon therapy with the Bionic. Though I did feel the remedies were quite strong and I had a lot of detox effects from them and also some improvements, I hadnt made an awful lot of progress overall with FCT after 5 months. Though 5 months is not a very long time.

However I do wonder if they did help to pave the way and unblock some things possibly contributing to my initial improvement from the photon therapy.

The remedies work in a similar way helping the body to get rid of toxins including metals on a DNA level, though they dont address allergies specifically like AI does.

I remember just a few days prior to my first initial significant boost in energy from photon (2 weeks after my 5th photon treatment) I took another course of FCT remedies and coincidentally, or maybe not, I had all sorts of pains around my liver and in various lymph areas as if some kind of release was taking place, and then a couple of days later had the biggest boost of energy I hadnt had in a long time which lasted about 4 days. I basically completely stopped having adrenal crashes, which was unheard of in my case, having severe adrenal insufficiency.

It could just be coincidence and I cant prove it but I feel the FCT energetic remedies may have helped my body to release the toxins stirred up by the photon therapy.

I stopped doing FCT (to start NES instead) and also again perhaps coincidentally I havent made as much progress and been able to sustain that good response though this could be due to a number of reasons.

Good luck Carry, I hope having the AI test is worth it for you and the drops help!! I'll be sending off for mine in a few weeks.

[ 05-07-2009, 05:30 AM: Message edited by: shimmy ]
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thanks for all the reports by users - very helpful. It's essential for those of us assessing the AI treatment before trying it that we know what OTHER treatments are being used at the same time. Seems to me like some of these `other' treatments could dramatically affect the outcome.

By their very nature, the AI drops are dynamic or energetic treatments, acting on levels that go beyond simple physical action. If they are able to subdue miasms, they must also be very LONG-acting and DEEP-acting upon the vital force of the person.

This means that there really isn't any time `between' rounds of the drops. Just because you are not actively taking the drops doesn't mean that treatment has stopped. The action of the AI drops continues.

Homeopathic remedies are like this, also; certain long and deep-acting remedies have a potential action of 60 days or longer. The effects of some other short-acting remedies are gone in 1-2 days. Each remedy can disrupt certain disease processes in the person, just like that same remedy can be disrupted or antidoted (nullified) by certain other specific remedies. On the other hand, certain remedies may be complementary to one another.

I would be EXTREMELY selective about any treatments I did while on the AI protocol, especially those which act above the `physical' level. If you start mixing `dynamic' therapies, there's no telling what you might end up with down the road. You could end up totally or partially antidoting the AI drops, or reducing the long-term effects, or speeding up the action of a process that should act slowly, or altering the natural focus or direction of healing of the AI drops...... who knows.

Taking some binders to help mop up released toxins or metals is one thing.... but I really don't know what category biophoton therapy falls into. Seems like it acts on levels above the physical, but I really don't know.

All I know is...... anyone who does additional treatments during the time they are taking the AI drops should qualify their assessment of AI accordingly. This is the only way the information will be helpful to those considering the AI treatment plan.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
My daughter and I have started the AI drops first before the bionic, we may be one of the first on lymenet doing it this way, as we had to cancel our bionic/Germany trip.

We do not have CFS, and for comparision sake, we are on the healthier side related to symptoms.

But do have all the common EBV's, Candida, strep, mycoplasma, toxoplasmosis, etc in active states. I also have acquired lupus, which tests very active.

We are getting better all the time after starting the AI therapy. Neither of us have any lyme showing up energetically. We also do not have any lyme showing up in my DNA with the AI therapy. (I questioned AI about my results).

I also do not have any lyme showing up in my igenex bloodwork either! Don't want to spend the money on my daughter with Igenex again now, but I would be interested to get her tested just to know if it was free as well on that test. (previously we were both very positive/active with lyme and co with igenex)

The lyme was released at the same time we started the drops, and previous to the drops,we were also working on emotional issues by several means.

so it's hard to know which thing we did was the catalyst for lyme to be released, (AI, rife, natural protocols, prayer and healing service, emotional release therapy, botanicals, forgiveness) I think it was a combo of things above, and the deep personal desire to be open to healing with no expectations, prior to AI.

But the antibiotics we originally were on, did not remove the lyme. ABX only did give us some relief of symptoms, until the herxes. ABX did clear the RSMF, and Ehrlichiosis, or maybe push it so deep it does not test now. Then we stopped ABX, and started to detox and do natural things to prepare for the bionic treatment.

but as far as lyme being gone and all the symptoms gone, it happened and I will not question the exact how, but accept the gift!

For those here questioning their ability to get off abx, I know it is hard to compare to others online.

But I recommend working with a ND who does ART, or a good muscle tester, that can help you RIFE, or do something naturally to bring the load of lyme and co's down, before attempting the AI treatment. That way your may be more comfortable and feel better physically while starting the AI.

As far as continued treatments with AI:

My daughter does still test positive for bartonella by ART, and never through blood work, so no ABX ever for bart from her original LLMD.

So we have decided to treat her with some natural remedies for Bart,(tested with ART and biotenser) during her two weeks break from the AI drops.

She has had herxes during the two weeks off. And one last fever/flu type herx so far for a day.

I have been told by the AI folks, that taking any antibiotics would be detrimental. As they are absorbed, and create added stress to the body as it is trying to regulate.

"It won't effect the drops doing their work, as the drops are at the DNA level, and the antibiotics are not, but it will create more disregulations, and cause the body more stress. It is counterproductive. There is no reason to take the antibiotics" , AI says.

Also, AI has told me, do not take any natural remedies that have been energized with frequencies! This will disrupt the frequencies that AI drops have and confuse your body. Garlic, and other natural things are ok if not infused with frequencies.

This is true as well for any frequency machine. We cannot use any frequencies or be near running Rife machines when we are on the AI drops. So no Bionic 880 treatments as well while on the AI therapy and no bionic treatments during the therapy breaks, as the regulation work is still being done on breaks, says AI.

KPU: my problem

I am doing the KPU protocol, as I started this on my AI break, as my ND ART tested me for this.

Originally, I was planning on doing the KPU therapy before starting the AI therapy...but my ND read my results wrong, and I started the AI, before finding out that I had major detox issues, that my intuition always said I had!

Also my urine test showed I was very positive for KPU. I too was concerned that it may cause more disregulation, and not be necessary while I was doing the AI. But I am also concerned, that if I do not detox well, what is happening to my re-circulating toxins, that are being removed with the AI, if they are not detoxing naturally?

I thank GIGI for her info about the KPU, but I am still in a quandry about continuing the KPU or just leaving it all until after the AI is comlete?

I was never comtemplating doing any treatment other than AI, until AI was complete.

It always seems complicated.

Any thoughts?

LP
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Truthfinder, very good post!

LP and others, when I emailed AI some weeks back to ask if you can be on abx during AI treatment, the reply simply said it can be done 'at all times', so I assume that there is no hard and fast rule about not being on abx, just that absorption of the drops will be better without the drugs??

I had decided to stay on abx at least for round 1 of drops and then reassess.

Joey [love your blog by the way!] ,I was diagnosed originally [many years ago] with ME/CFS so, as with you, my Lyme involves a lot of weakness and fatigue amongst the many other symptoms. I am very encouraged to know that you are improving, both for your own sake and selfishly, because it gives me hope!
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I just finished my 1st round 3 days ago.

While on it, I had some major detox symptoms:

loose bowels, runny nose, stinky urine/b.o./vaginal discharge...

...metals are on the move for sure -I taste metal all the time.

I also broke out all over my neck, chest and shoulders. They were hard blackheads and, when squeezed, they were bright yellow.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
If you didn't see it on A I's website, you can subscribe to their newsletter and translate it.

It's a good way to understand more and read Mr. G's thoughts on many things.

The memory of things can linger long after the body recognizes a substance for what it is.

When I was very ill and could only manage some days to pop ezekeal bagels into the toaster, all the while moaning about how sick I was - there is a emotional factor to all of these issues that A I works with as well.

The invisible along with the visible.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
ZMummy, your detox symptoms are interesting, especially the blackheads that turn yellow! I'll watch out for them when I start!

Has anyone who has been on the AI drops for longer noticed any weight changes, as I believe that allergies do cause weight gain or loss?


Carry
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I should also add that my skin has cleared up since I finished the drops 3.5 days ago. It's quite remarkable.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
No weight changes. Acne increase - yes. Another person I know very significant acne increase.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Oh, thanks, Carry, for posting about staying on abx and what AI said.... I'll pass that on to someone who was just asking about that.....

Wow, Zombie - that's amazing about your reactions.

Thanks everyone for the updates.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
Oh yeah, I swabbed my ears last night and a LOT of BRIGHT YELLOW ear wax came out. Can't help but feel it is related to AI detox...
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
ZM--Dr. Saul Pressman says that ear discharge from ozone insufflation is a preferred route of toxins leaving the body and can continue for months to years after beginning insufflation. So that is very good to hear!
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

I just received my 3rd round of AI drops.

During the "break," I've taken some Diflucan for possible yeast, as I was on zithromax for about 8 months or so. I also rearranged some of the supplements I was already taking into the KPU protocol--I only had to add Manganese and increase zinc a notch or two.

I'm taking the 5 methylation factors, which help with detoxing, and chlorella. I also took some intestinal detox, but had no major action from that.

I have suddenly been wanting to do a gall stone cleanse, but now will wait until I'm done with this two weeks of drops.

This test came back with 11 unidentified or unrecognized substances as reacting.

The only biological test I did--as Herr Grundmeyer asked for any test that related to Lyme, which he said was now gone--was CD 57. It went from 36 (where it had stayed for over a year) to 48--a 33% increase.

Having better days now.

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Good post, Cass A : good news about your CD57 result and especially that you are having better days.

I had my first test results back on Friday [only 3 days after the sample was posted from UK!] and have a few questions for others doing AI:

Did others find that the first sections up to the food and other substances were entirely abnormal? With one exception, mine were all over 7.4 [with 10 as completely blocked] and one [dysfunction/acute blocks in secondary energy] was 9.9.

In the substances section, I had the usual suspects: wheat, corn, gluten soy, 3 penicillium forms and 3 mucor forms, no industrial toxins and the usual metals ..lead, mercury, copper and nickel].

Incorrect cell polarity 72%], 6 energetic blocks from the subconscious and 9 'inherited burdens [eg war experiences] from parents and grandparents.

Lots of blocks on the spine, 3 glands [pineal, thyroid and pancreas] and enzyme dysfunction.

Like ZM I had all 4 genetic toxins: anyone know what Psonirum is? The bacterial and viral sections were blank, but perhaps they will show on subsequent rounds...was this typical of others' results on round 1?

Hope nobody minds the detail; I tried to keep it short, but couldn't think of any other way of swapping info.

I am going away for a week in early June, so have told Herr G that I will be ordering the drops on my return.


Carry
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Wow, more excellent information....

Carry, Psorinum is a 'Scabies nosode' - Psora is one of the 4 main miasms..... here's a description of Psorinum symptoms in just one Materia Medica (book of remedies):

http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/p/psor.htm
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thanks for the explanationof Psorinum and for the link, Tracy.
I identify with many of the symptoms described on your link, but hopefully not all of them [especially not all th foul odours]! Gruesome!

Carry
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Ha, ha - yes, few people will have ALL the symptoms of any miasm - especially those with 'mixed miasms' - and there is certainly comfort in that.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
The pattern I have observed is those with 3 or 4 of the miasms seem to be the sickest. In seeing probably a dozen of these results now, the pattern seems pretty clear. Correcting them should also be a significant benefit. I am about to send off for round 6 this week.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thanks, Scott, that's very encourageing: good luck with your next round,


Carry
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
interesting observation scott. thnx
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
My daughter has had a major increase in her acne.
Interesting that others have posted this.

Not just the regular type, but hive looking, as well as cystic forms, and others are white heads. All large and all on her face, back and chest and arms.
This is hard for a teen to emotionally handle.

[ 05-28-2009, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: lymeparfait ]
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I've had an increase in acne as well as has one other person I know on AI. Very notable. Face, back, etc.

I would not worry about the pill impacting her AI for that period of time. Might want to validate with AI team.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Acne everywhere on upper body for me too
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Hi,

Haven't posted here in years.

The Ai stuff seems really interesting.

As I have multiple and severe allergies and going broke after 15 years of trying to treat this stuff, I do have a question.

Who doing thsi treatment has actually seen a decrease in their airborne allergies like dust and pollen?

If I geta few Yesses, I'm ordering this right away!~

Blessings,

Michael
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I'm not going to say it's been great yet for airborne allergens - I still feel the the allergy season upon us. It is a long process that takes up to a year or more to complete and I am only at 5 months.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I was hoping the Progurt (stll waiting for it), AI and some stress reduction (stress Eraser) used daily would work somewhat fast.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Taken from AI's study that was done in 2005/06,
they list all the categories of problems for which people took the drop therapy.

For instance, Hayfever, aka pollen allergy, inhalation allergy, sneezing attacks, chronic runny nose:

Total of 68 took the therapy
26 male, 42 female

When done to completion - usually within several months depending on age, etc.

Of the 68 total - 47 had no longer any symptoms
18 of the 26 male no longer had any problem
29 of the 42 female no longer had any problem

Of the 68 total - 14 had partial symptoms remaining
10 of the female had had partial symptoms remaining
4 of the male had partial symptoms remaining

Of the 68 total - 7 had no change
3 of the female had no change
4 of the male had no change

This means that in the Hayfever category:

Of the total 68 ---- 69.12% no symptoms left
of the total 42 women ---- 69.05% had no symptoms left
Of the total 26 male --- 69.23% had no symptoms left

In that study, 5 people of the 6 with wheat allergy, 5 were totally free.

Same study, 6 people with gluten intolerance, 5 were totally cleared and 1 partially.

While the above were treated for these specifics, many other problems/ dysregulations/ errors in the system were improved within the same therapy.

As indicated on their website, AI will send you the study if you ask for it. The study covers many different problem areas, from bad back to shortness of breath, etc. etc.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Among the "asthma" sufferers, as displayed in the same study I mentioned above, there were 37 persons. 28 no longer suffered from asthma after the PSP therapy (drops); 5 still had partial symptoms left, and 4 had no improvement. That is a 75.68% effectiveness of the therapy if done to conclusion, i.e. it is continued until no errors or dysregulations are found in the DNA or symptoms are gone.

It is an amazing therapy if you stick with it. Young people manage to sail through it very quickly. Our son at 40 has great benefits. For us older folk, who had many years to brush things under the rug or get treatments and manmade medicines the body did not know what to do with thus burdening the system even more, it will take longer. Wheat/gluten/gliadin intolerance and the thousands of chemicals are among the worst offenders if the body does not recognize them for what they are. Good food or toxins.

Correcting the polarities is all it is, so that the body is able to work with the correct "information".
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Thanks Gigi. Those numbers look good to me.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
Thanks for that info, Gigi. Good to see you posting on here.

I have only done round 1 of AI and my seasonal allergies are as bad as they ever have been (this is the worst time of year for me).

Having had these allergies since infancy, I figure it will take a much longer time for AI to clear these dysregulations.
 

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Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
 
hi GiGi! thanks for the great info. just wanted to say i've missed you and it's wonderful to see you back, if only for a brief moment.

take care.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
I just sent in my latest sample from round two,some of you may have remembered how much the first round made me feel so weak but after doing the latest , two/ I have been feeling pretty darn good. I think I have more energy and maybe even a little more strenth.
I just hope this feeling last and its not a false alarm.

Just curious, I have read alot resently about the acne kicking in, wich round is it most preavalant?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Acne increased during round two for my daughter...she has had an acne problem prior to the drops. With the drops it got more severe. Almost likeher body was tryng to release toxins.

No acne for me yet. Although it has never been a problem for me, even in my teen years.

We are starting round 3 next week.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Our largest organ for elimination is the skin.
Make sure all other organs get all the assist to flush out. Not plain water, because it runs straight through. But juices, mushes, soups, apple sauce. The three compartments of the gut require different consistencies to clear.

Skin problems relate to the 60,000 chemicals that are in our world these days, and it will take more rounds to correct the dysregulations toward these chemical groups in order for the body to be able to recognize and eliminate them slowly. We are on #5 and still show chemical blockages.
No skin or acne problem, but all other organs working extremely well.

I always test for glycine during the chemical releases, sometimes charcoal, lots of pectin in the fruit mushes (melons, apples, pears, or veggie mushes). I cook a lot of soups/bone broths, etc. All that helps.

Fungi/mold problems were all corrected in the first round of drops and the body starts to deal with it.

Have patience. It didn't happen overnight and it is not going to be fixed overnight.

When the body can regulate again, all will function again. Picture a string of christmas tree lights. When one bulb stops lighting up, the whole string of lights doesn't work. That is the same dynamic at work in our body. Every round of drops will turn on more lights!
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Anyone have increased joint pain in new areas and inflamation during AI treatment?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Good to hear that you can feel improvements, Kissis and I hope you continue to gain in strength.

Gigi, it's good to read your posts again and you write so vividly: I like the metaphor of the Christmas tree lights!


Carry
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Okay,

I'm gonna try this. It's just money. I hope Scott or Giogi cvan chime in about one last question or two:

1. I am a horrid detoxifier. Lyme treatments in the past porbably did work but they made me too toxic. Can I still do this?

2. DO they say this will attack Lyme and other critters too?

Thanks and Blessings,

Michael
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/76170?

Hobo, I remember responding to you some 4 plus years ago, about energetic treatments.

At that time, I was not aware of AI and also the fact that many Lyme patients have many dysregulations/errors programmed into their DNA.
Most Lyme patients who have taken th AI test and have told me of their results, have between 30 and 40 errors when tested by AI. Any one of them and certainly that many affect the body's ability to fight any disease or any toxin.

If it does not recognize the toxins or know a good food from a bad one, it cannot get rid of the toxin or accept the good natural foods. It is a bad situation both ways. Sadly many children today are born with these allergies today and because they do not know about AI they are forced to live with a very restricted diet. When you do AI, most people can eat most foods again within a short time, and after the food releavant chemicals have been corrected.

Please go to the AI website and use one of the translating engines to learn more about their method of treatment. I learned from Dr. K. many years ago that if one is allergic to a toxic substance, the body cannot get rid of it because it simply does not recognize them. It also has a problem absorbing some of the good foods/substances that it needs for healthy living.
So you can readily see, where that leaves us when it comes to defend against pathogens or any undesirable organism.

The allergies have to be corrected. The body has to learn to regulate again as it was meant to do.
That is what AI does.

Before you get into any program, you should certainly research it to your satisfaction. The information available on their website is enormous - just a bit difficult because it is in German and you have to do a little extra work. But you will gain a totally different perspective.

I am convinced that it will open up the detox channels for you -- IF YOU HAVE THE PATIENCE TO STICK WITH THE DROPS for a few months - because you have had the problem for a long time. They test for all infections and will take the proper action. Most the time, infections are long gone and only the memory remains in the DNA.

I myself wish I had known about this treatment a lot earlier, at least before I got into photons or any energetic treatment, and know that we could have avoided a lot of heartache and a small fortune. If you stir the pot by any method and the body does not know what to do with the fallout, it spells trouble. Some people call it
herxheimers; I call it mostly redistribution of toxins -- meaning you will find these toxins again down the road holding up your recovery. The longer the stuff has been brushed under the rug, the longer it will take to dig it out from all the different layers in the system. But a lot can happen in a few months --- rather than years!

Read the thread I linked above which I started a while back when I first became aware of AI. The wheat/gluten include literally many other foods because the body responds to frequencies, and the wheat frequencies are involved in everthing from toothpaste to grain-eating-chicken to grain- eating- cows who deliver milk.

On top of that, many of the 60,000 chemicals, many of which we have become allergic to, are involved in all these foods because they are used in the processing of food stuffs and penetrate our environment. Which ones did you last
use on your head? So whichever is the culprit, whether you are allergic to wheat or allergic to a chemical, unless all these "errors" coded into the DNA are corrected, becoming healthy again is quite difficult (impossible). Even if you stopped eating.

Please read and learn and share with others what you find.

Take care.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Gigi,

You seem very pro this treatment. How long have you guys been on it?

I'm gonna order it. Why not?
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
Is anyone doing AI also using detox foot pads?

I have used them before but have started using them every night since finishing the 1st round of AI and I feel they are helping a lot more.

I have been using the Kenoki 'gold' foot pads but have placed an order for ones containing zeolite. Has anyone else tried these??
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Gigi I am just wondering about your thoughts now on the Bionic 880 protocol:

"I myself wish I had known about this treatment a lot earlier, at least before I got into photons or any energetic treatment, and know that we could have avoided a lot of heartache and a small fortune."

Are you saying now you think the Bionic 880 treatment was not worth it financially looking back on it and you are having regrets about having spent the money on that treatment for your husband and for purchasing a Bionic 880 to bring home and use?

I am a little confused. I thought the Bionic 880 treatment really helped your husband and he saw many improvements? I thought you posted he was so much better after the treatment in Germany he could stop using his walker and he was then able to once again feed himself, cut up his own food and return to the gym?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Lymeberry, as I tried to explain in several other posts about AI, when treating with photons while these allergies and dysfunctions are present, many toxins are being mobilized with any die-off. But since the body does not recognize these toxins for what they are, i.e. is allergic to them, the immune system does not step in to clean up. The toxins are then merely shifted from one body compartment to another, often creating other problems. It created major problems for me and for my husband as the weeks went on. Shifting of neurotoxins is not a pleasant experience as most of us know, and often things get worse instead of better. It's not what people call a herxheimer, it is merely a redistribution of toxins. It may happen right away or gradually.

This is why we have made the decision - photons of any kind are not for us right now. The Bionic is packed up and gathering dust in the garage.

Yes, my husband was doing better and circling the house a number of times, which was wonderful; but that was the end of it. From that point on, he went downhill very quickly. I myself, who had been feeling perfectly well before photons, but used it for an old fracture, started to not feel well almost immediately with photons, but tried to ignore it and blame it on stress of travel, etc. As it turned out, I had a few of the worst months of my whole Lyme life after photons. Now, with the AI treatment I am hoping to dig up most the garbage and finally get rid of all of it. So, to answer your question, I do not consider the Bionic 880 program as it is performed and recommended to us safe for people who harbor allergies at the DNA level to so many substances. Try shaking a champagne bottle vigorously without removing the cap!
It can be a real mess.

Hobo, we started AI in January and are now starting bottle #6, this time in an effort to clear over a dozen chemical groups and emotional blockages, as well as addressing nerve functions that were affected, especially for my husband. I am keeping my fingers crossed! Our bodies are working overtime and we are doing nothing else but binders (pectin, glycine, charcoal, etc - I hide them into fruit mousse). The older, the more toxin accumulation and it takes longer. But 15 drops of informed water is easy to swallow! And I am about back to my normal feeling good, but will of course continue until no "errors" are found in my "software" any longer.

And everything happens for a reason - if I hadn't made the acquaintance of the Bionic, I would not have found AI.

Take care.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Zombie, thanks for reminding me about the foot pads. I used them before A I but after a couple of months they started coming off fairly clean.

I have the gold as well as the aqua ones. The aqua is for metals as well I think, but don't know if they have zeolite in them.

Think I'll give them another try now that A I has facilitated being able to release more toxins.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
GiGi, what do you attribute others success with the Bionic 880 to based on your experience (and husbands)? It seems like for many, it cured nearly all their Lyme issues. Less toxins? Less DNA-level allergies?

That's frightening the Bionic 880 didn't help long-term. I guess more long-term studies may be needed to assess its usefulness for Lyme.
 

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Posted by Ocean (Member # 3496) on :
 
Seek,

I am all for the Bionic, BUT!! I have read of a few others who are worse off afterward. There is one person who went over last month who is now in a wheelchair.

I've read of others who get worse with antibiotics (this person who went over also was worse with abx, hence the reason to do the Bionic).

But, you are right, some people do REALLY well with it.

Take care,
Ocean
 

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Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
GiGi- It's pretty unbelievable that you were telling people to get a job bagging groceries to afford the Bionic treatments & now you are saying yours is gathering dust...

I guess it's "buyers beware"...

I'm glad I didn't spend my life savings to go to Germany like many were considering.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
I am sure people receive varying benefits from the Bionic 880 treatment and AI drops as with any protocol. Some people are much sicker than others to start with and have different coinfections and viruses. Some people respond better to different treatments. Some people do not follow directions.

I also find it very difficult at times to research how well any one protocol works on this forum by reading some people's posts and their blogs due to lack of full honest disclosure which happens for whatever reason. I am sure there are many reasons for that it just makes it confusing for many off us trying to figure out how the protocols are really working out for patients. Seeing how many of us are looking for answers in order to try and improve our own health it is frustrating.

Some people seem more straight forward then others and some don't post about things that might be helpful to the rest of us for example if they over treated and did not follow Dr. W's instructions.

If they would disclose the good the bad and the ugly and operator and intuitive error it would help the rest of us see a better snapshot of what happened so we could learn from their experience and so we can get an idea if any one protocol might really be helpful to us or not.

I think most of us are on this forum trying to get well and many of us are looking for answers because conventional methods are not doing enough for us.

Commissions, sales and egos and a thing called denial get in the way of us eager readers getting a true snapshot as well. It makes it difficult and frustrating to try and read between the lines about what really went on with a patient and a protocol when certain things are not disclosed yet other things are but maybe not necessarily for the right reason.

If someone is making a commission I have no problem with it unless they don't disclose that fact. Then it muddies the waters because we readers don't know if what they are posting is a sales pitch or fact or where the enthusiasm is really coming from. Receiving commission and not disclosing that fact here is an abuse of power and not fair to those of us sick and looking for answers.

I know some people did go to Germany and came back and did over treat by not following the doctor's instructions yet for whatever reason they did not bother to mention they over treated which makes it difficult for the rest of us to see if the Bionic 880 treatment might be a go match for us or not.

Ocean what happened to the person that is now in a wheelchair? I feel very badly for anyone whose health became worse from any treatment. Are they sure it was caused by the Bionic 880 treatment or could it have been something else? I wish they would let us know what might have caused their health to become worse and I wish them the best.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Gigi seriously if you want to ever sell your Bionic 880 do please let me know. I still would like to own one but do not have the funds for a brand new machine.
 

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Posted by Ocean (Member # 3496) on :
 
Lymeberry,

The person in the wheelchair is possibly just herxing badly, I'm not sure. I know that they also got worse on antibiotics too, so it seemed that any type of treatment really hurt them.

I know that this person was also on steriods for a while before Lyme was found to be the real cause. I imagine that that could have something to do with it.

I agree, it makes me feel so badly when someone is trying to get better only to get sicker, doesn't seem fair.

Take care,
Ocean
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp,

"GiGi, what do you attribute others success with the Bionic 880 to based on your experience (and husbands)? It seems like for many, it cured nearly all their Lyme issues. Less toxins? Less DNA-level allergies?"

I am very pleased if others can report they are now "nearly cured from Lyme issues". I don't know why their success and I can't answer for them.

As I posted weeks ago more than once, if I had to do it over again, I would make certain that I have no DNA dysregulation, no metal/fungi/mold/chemical allergies, no organ blockages, no emotional blockages, etc. If so, I would try to take care of those major problems before attempting anything else; i.e. before resorting to photons and similar mechanisms in an attempt to wipe away chronic infections.

After all, the dysregulations, the errors in the software, are at the root cause of any chronic disease. That we know now.



Take care.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 

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Originally posted by NanaDubo
Zombie, thanks for reminding me about the foot pads. I used them before A I but after a couple of months they started coming off fairly clean.

I have the gold as well as the aqua ones. The aqua is for metals as well I think, but don't know if they have zeolite in them.

Think I'll give them another try now that A I has facilitated being able to release more toxins.

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I ordered these zeolite pads from the same site that has the gold ones (Health Marvels). The zeolite ones seem to be a new item.

Mine are in the mail. I'll report again after I've used them a few times.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
As for photons, they seem to have gotten me off antibiotics which was itself a miracle. 7 months now. But it did not resolve all problems, nor do I think it fully resolved even Borrelia.

Symptom-wise, there was not a significant improvement, but again, holding after the stopping of ABX was still quite notable. I continue to use the Bionic 880 but it was not a five treatment cure.

My observation is that photons have been a tool for many people but I don't know of any US people that are saying it was a cure. It seems that most of us that have done it are still on our journey looking for more answers, even though we may have found some of them with the photons.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
It is encouraging the photon treatment did get you off abx. That is no small feat. I am sure many people here would be happy if they could get off abx.

I don't think anyone including Dr. W. believes that the treatment is a 5 treatment cure.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
I agree.. I have yet to hear of anyone that was cured using just the bionic.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I agree lymeberry. I don't regret doing the photon therapy at all. It has been a big learning experience for me.

I am in agreement with GiGi though that if I could have reversed the order, I might have done AI first and then the photons. The photons do seem to stir things up and for some, they may not be ready for it. It makes sense that you would want your system to recognize metals, chemicals, etc. before stirring the pot.
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
I am planning on stirring the pot first. Perhaps AI later. We shall see what happens. I am hoping good things will happen.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Are you going to do Bionic 880? In Germany? When do you go?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I have been and will be extremely candid to all on this thread about our experience with the AI therapy, in hope that others are as well.

It is so amazing to me to see some of the recent developments in our lives during the first two treatments.

AI has helped with emotional blockages that we did not even know we had!

Seems like weekly, more become exposed and cleared. Have found the need for my daughter to speak with a therapist as well as a priest so she can feel secure to have a place to share very deep feelings and thoughts that have come out of no where. She is beginning to feel very free she tells me.

She also tells me things that I would never have told my mother...she feels compelled to share with me, although being extremely private normally. This has been very positive.

My daughters acne seems to have settled down slightly to about 1/2 of what it usually is. It was at a height during the chemical regulation.

My eyes became very dry during the chemical phase, and eliminate crusty mucous. This is not the norm for me. I also have more peace in my life and anxiety free during treatment and with prayer.

She still has major problems with her hormone regulation, and are hoping the AI will work on that. If this problem does not get better, we will try the bionic therapy, after the AI is complete.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Scott,

I am confused. Sometime ago you posted in a thread about your vision that your eyes were the about the only remaining problem you had. Now you say you are no better.

I don't get it.

Not trying to be rude. Trying to understand.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Forgive me if this has been asked and answered: A friend wants to know if you can take AI drops if you have mercury amalgams.

Thanks. Hiker53
 

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Posted by lymeberry (Member # 20102) on :
 
Gigi did say that was okay hiker.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Lymeberry,
"Gigi did say that was okay hiker".

Not that I remember, unless I was speaking of what others have told me while gathering information/opinions. Taken out of context.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I would not make such a blanket statement considering the subject matter.

I would certainly not make any statement whatsoever to the inquiring person.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I ordered the AI but on a websearch found a message on Joey's Blog calling it a sham. Of cours ethat was posted without a name. ANyone investigate it? Not wild about wasting more $
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
hobokinite:

I don't take stock in unsubstantiated opinions, esp. when they're utter denunciations (or outright praise). One should always get a "why" before letting yourself be swayed one way or another. I'm not sure if you're the one that PMed me, but I do think you your bang for your buck with this therapy. Just about everyone reporting here has had some kind of significant reaction from these drops of water with information, and it's a one-time fee for however months of it your body needs.

I am certainly in the camp that would've done AI before going into the killing phase in hindsight.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well I just started on my third bottle today , around 3 pm. It is almost 10:30 pm and before 3 my face was fine. I now have a face rash on my lower chin.I am certain they are from the drops.So its definitly doing something.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Well, I already ordered it. I have heard good things too and you guys seem to have Hellzapoppin, so hopefully it will live up to it's hype.

The loan poster sounds like some of the ones who were anti the Biophotons too.

Thanks guys,

Michael
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
"Gigi - I'm doing Dr. K's cilantro / chlorella detox, as I'm having 8 amalgams removed. Do you think this might interfere with AI tx?"

We are more than containers for Lyme"

It is well documented that much of the mercury from amalgams has moved into other body compartments. If you have them removed, the mercury will go into circulation, and if you, like many Lymies, are allergic to heavy metals, your immune system will not be able to recognize the metals and therefore not remove them.

So, in my opinion, it is not a good idea to do the removal before you make certain that your body is able to recognize the toxins. If I had to do it over again, I would never do any killing or detoxing therapies without reassuring myself that these errors are not a problem for me. Everyone I know, my friends away from LN, who have taken the test, everyone is allergic to heavy metals which means the body can't get rid of them.

Besides being allergic to metals, they are allergic to most of the major foods and many of the chemical groups. So read about the AI test before you create yourself anoother problem by removing the fillings. Removal does not mean all the mercury is out -- most of the mercury has long wandered off and settled elsewhere. That is the problem with toxic mercury.

Hope this helps, Ping.

Take care.
 

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Posted by cactus (Member # 7347) on :
 
I have been catching up on this thread, and am very interested in AI for all of us.

Reading it has raised a lot of "extra" questions for me, with regard to allergies. There are many references here to the benefit AI can have on allergies, including food allergies.

Reading this is like having 2 worlds collide for me, since dealing with the potential for anaphylactic shock is a part of daily life for my family. We are dealing with severe, life-threatening allergies to multiple foods.

So - at the risk of sounding very ill-informed about AI, I have some questions. ( Where better to ask though? )

When speaking of allergies, in this thread, are you referring to IgE or IgG allergies? Basing it on experience? Muscle testing? Any other testing?

Are you speaking of allergies in the sense that there is an IgE response, a histamine reaction? Or more along the lines of food intolerances? Something else?

(I am not questioning the validity of any type of testing or the severity of any type of allergy - only trying to ascertain whether more research into this is warranted on the allergy question for my particular family.)

Has there been any reduction in the incidents of anaphylactic shock due to food allergies, as a result of using AI?

And of course - safety? In individuals with this type of severe allergy, how safe would treatment with AI be?

Obviously, I am not considering throwing away the Epi-Pens and feeding an allergic individual peanuts or any other allergens. But the possibility that there is a chance to lessen the severity of a reaction or lower the number of reactions to unknown "may contains" is intriguing.

Any experience with this? Or links to literature on it?

Thanks,
Cactus
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, from here http://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/index.html you click on the orange words "more info" and on the same page again "more info". (You have to click on the orange banner on the home page where it says "English" first.)

I have just gotten off the phone talking with them. I call them a lot because of my husband's situation. As a rule, they say, if a chronic disease has manifested itself for ten years, it takes an average of one year of drops to get through all the different layers of the system to get to the inner core. So that gives you an idea. All I can tell you is that taking some drops of water a day is easy compared to all the other bitter pills.

I learned that we can take all the chelating agents in the world, if you are allergic to any of the metals and have other blockages throughout the system, it is very difficult to get the metals and toxins out, because the body has lost or never had the ability to detect them as toxins. Or in the case of wheat and other food stuffs, simply was reacting in error. If the metals are not detected, usually it also does not respond to all the thousands of chemicals that are everywhere around us, and so we end up collecting chemicals in our body also.

My husband did heavy metal detox under the best physicians, including cilantro, for ten years and never got rid of an appreciable amount or the bulk of the toxins/metals collected over his lifetime. The reason: he was allergic to mercury, lead, copper and nickle at the DNA level which we never knew until we did the AI test. All other energetic testing (I think we had done all of them) do not detect allergies/dysregulations at the DNA level. He also had allergies for many foods, the silent kind that one does not necessarily feel, and that created the leaky gut.

We both also had error/dysregulations that caused the body not to recognize many chemicals and worst, it was not responding to fungi/mold/penicillins.

I think you would be wise to at least do the test and see if there are underlying problems for you that holds back your healing. The AI test is a lot less than other genetic testing that offer no solution to the problems they find. We have done these tests also and that did not bring us one step forward.

It's the terrain that needs fixing in order for the microorganisms not to be happy there.

Hope this helps - take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cactus, I know a lot of the answers, but not firm enough to post them here.

If you have such problems, it would probably help you to start reading by googling or subscribing to Babelfish translations to get a better understanding of the AI therapy from their website. The website is so extensive if you go through all the links, you will be reading and learning everything that is involved in the therapy, even the method of testing and making of drops is explained.

Why the testing method is totally different from any other allergy testing is also explained.
Allergens are not involved - because if the body has regulation problems, allergens do not exist.

I wish the people spoke English, but they don't - not beyond reading some English text, but answering is difficult. Trying some of the translating engines is probably best to give you a better picture.

Take care.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Everyone, can someone please remind me the address and method to send your blood in for testing with AI? I'm considering it.

Do you send the blood sample and ask them to send you a Paypal invoice or do you need to pay first?

Any info is appreciated. Their Paypal section on their website is down.

Please PM me if you'd like with the info.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp, you can send a few (2-3) drops of saliva on a piece of tissue, wrapped flat in a small piece of foil, seal it in a small baggie, to them. It is not necessary to send blood - saliva will do the same.

Via Air Mail
Allergie Immun
In den Hahndornen 16
D-67273 Bobenheim am Berg
Germany

give them a brief list of your symptoms and put it in a regular letter size envelope with 94 Cent stamp on it, marked AirMail. Maybe take it to POffice and have it weighed.

I notice their PayPal page is up again. Do the PayPal and send them a short e-mail at the same time telling them if you want the test only or the whole therapy. Ask them to send you the results by e-mail. Our first 16-page results came with the drops in the mail and I was so anxious to see the results. I think they also mention on their site that if you do the whole therapy, you can break it up into two (or so) payments. Just ask them.

Good luck and hope you have very few red x's and red numbers and blockages.

Take care.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Thank you GiGi. I have zero doubt there will be a LOT of blockages!
 

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Posted by AndrewInCA (Member # 2010) on :
 
Lymeparfait,

Thank you for your detailed description of how AI has been working for you and your daughter.

One question - have either of you been on antibiotics during the AI treatment?

Thanks!
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
I am awaiting analysis/remedy number 2. Do they email the analysis or mail it with the bottle?
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
zombie-mummy,

I got my 2nd analysis in the mail with the bottle last month. Currently awaiting my third analysis and drops.

Goood luck,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Zombie,

The analyses after the first one are not detailed. My third one just said how many chemical and energy blockages I had and not what they were. It came with the drops. My first one was e-mailed to me.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
If they could perfect all blockages, wouldn't we be immortal and live to 500?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp, not quite - But life is a lot simpler if you can at least eat and enjoy good healthy bread without getting neurological handicaps from it. Your body will forever be thankful.

Yes, new toxins are always developed - some 60,000 to 80,000 manmade chemicals now --- and everything you buy seems to stink more and longer. So one has to be vigilant and be thankful someone was smart enough to come up with a solution to correct our software, at least to this stage.

Mr. G. told me just recently that many kids' problems start after vaccinations. Same with animals. They treat cats and dogs successfully!

Take care.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I just started round 6 today. Energetically, they continue to test very well for me via muscle testing. Still more chemical groups and engergetic blockages to address. It will be interesting to see who is the first American that finds out that they have no more items to correct with AI. I'm interested in hearing how others do with these over time. I'm of the belief that they are helping me to detox much more effectively.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Had a visit from our friendly nurse A. today. Toxins - chemicals, metals, are really flowing and need

Support - support - support - Drain Drain Drain!!
So the skin is not overloaded! Liver and Kidney assist -

She suggested (not Projogurt) support for gut - her pref. Betaglucan from Bioimmersion Sacromycis boulardi Jarrow, for good bug establishing, (with gas being a good sign of die-off)

For Lymph: cilantro pesto (2 T a day) on foods, toss (fresh) it in broth/soups, cilantro tea, lots of cucumber juice ( I mash them up in my little B&D 3cup chopper - I always have one in reserve in case one breaks down and Walmart doesn't carry them anymore - they are the best for raw apples, mousses, etc. )

For kidneys: lots of watermelon (pee a lot),
Renelix

Liver: Sauerkraut (made with nothing but fermented cabbage and salt - no preservatives - I find one at Albertsons (can). Most imported ones from Poland and Germany taste great and have no additives. Why in the heck they have to add an additive to Sauerkraut is beyond me!

Kefir, Butyrate (if it tests), Hepat (I think it's Sanum - I don't have it yet)

If you have the KMT - put it on back or omentum - gut (Liver kidney support - they are now working overtime!)and run program #3 (lymph), tissue repair #4, eyes tone #6

My husband is sleeping with it tonight with face mask on back. Runs 4plus hours.

Color if you have Air Energy singlet Oxygen, color blue/green for metal outflow.

To correct anemia (from past malabsorption) - Italian prunes fresh or frozen - spinach - apricots - Floradix

Stick with foods - as God makes them
I am sure some people have more to share.

Thought some of you might be interested.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Scott, the corrected software will bring changes and improvements for a year or two after finishing the drops -- that is what I was told the other day. If you really start to think about this, it is quite logical. Most of us have spent years only at half power to have gotten where we were.

Look at the green-yellow-red sections (starting 1.1 - all of those are tested and reorganized. They do not describe at every test what they are finding. It is way too difficult to understand and it would take up too much time. I know they work the synapses, nerves, myelins,etc.

How many switches they have to change depends on how long the train (body) has been going in the wrong direction. First they correct the outer layer. Layer after layer from outer to inner is gone over, and only if the outer layers are corrected, i.e. switched, can they go on to the deeper layers and finally the core. Any error in any of these layers can show up as a different behavior/symptom/cause. So sometimes subjectively we may think things are getting worse, while actually, as AI tell me, things are getting better and better, in tiny increments. That is why it is so important to stay with the drops until they can no longer find any errors.

So the most important thing is to stay with the drops and to not give up even if you feel not much is happening. Eventually, at one time, so they say, they will reach the goal. Or the inner core of the onion.

Make it an apple instead of an onion, sometimes there is no sign of a worm on the ouside, but it is hanging out instead near the core of the fruit.

Rule of thumb: the longer the chronic problem, the longer it will take drops to correct the dysregulations. The body has to fully regulate in order to function at its best.


Create your own reality by the way you think.....
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
What Gigi says has certainly been true for me.

During round three I felt like a kid again. Extraordinary strength and energy. Building raised bed gardens, sawing, hammering, and digging.

Round four must have reached a much deeper level. I test for lymph, kidney and liver drainage/support nonstop as well as binders.

I have woken up with searing ear and sinus aches but no infection there. Old stuff moving along I suspect.

Yesterday I felt like I was getting mosquito bites all day in scores of different places. Kept swatting at myself but I was laying on the couch watching the baseball game!! No mosquitos.

The first day of round four my lip twitched for two days and then it was done.

My eyes continue to burn and crust as the chemicals come out.

Due to a mishap I had to start over again with round four which has slowed the process down some but have just sent off for round 5.

I will stick with the drops until they now longer find errors. I am doing nothing else except organ support and binders, occasional magnesium, very little else.

The hundreds of supplements and tinctures I have collected are bagged up and put away.

Some day when no errors are found I really want to know what to attribute it to so I am keeping it ever so simple.

I enjoy raw spinach right out of the garden along with parsley daily (never liked cilantro). I have a dozen different kinds of lettuce that I harvest every evening.

Other than that, all my body is asking for is meat and eggs!!! (and more drops).

Some days I get really down that I feel worse and some days I am just grateful that I don't have to put a name to what I am feeling and know that "this too shall pass."
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
P S - I read something yesterday that the A I team posted regarding trying to detox things that your body doesn't recognize as toxins.

He said "it is like asking someone to go out and pick a tulip when they have no idea what one looks like."

I liked that one.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
P S S and most importantly.

THANK YOU GIGI
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Love the kisses, Nanadubo!

Lots of great information in these posts, thank you everyone.

I have had a bit of a crisis with palpitations non-stop this week and have had to cancel my week's holiday [pout].

At least I have found out today what is causing my worsened state :thyroxine levels have soared too high, despite the fact that my dose has been constant for years.

The timing could have been better, but at least it means I can order the drops a week earlier!

I have written to Herr G though in case he has altered the policy of one price including all cycles of drops, because my tests results did say cost would include up to 3 cycles.

I am pretty sure that I will need many many rounds, so I want to be sure on price.

I shall save some of the good detox and binding ideas, thank you again.


Carry
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Ping, I have just received his reply that the price covers limitless rounds, so no need to worry,


Carry
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Mine said the same re the 3 cycles, but I have already done 6 and I have not heard of any discussion about charging more for cycles beyond 3. Are you speculating?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
As far as I know, nothing has changed re price. I think it used to be some time ago that people needed less bottles and that was more the norm.

We are, the world is, getting more toxic and it takes more bottles, but they still charge the same (probably old text) That's my explanation. I had been told by other practitioner who is using the therapy for patients that some people are needing more bottles in recent times. I didn't ask why because I was not all that familiar with how this treatment works at that time.

I am sure if you take "stuff" that is not natural to the body, it has an effect of how the therapy works. An already "injured" body is easily "derailed" keeping in mind how this therapy works. That is why they are not in favor of pharma products and only if one cannot be without.

Take care.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Thanks for the update Gigi! Good to hear that we're all consistently testing for loads of drainage support during the remedy.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Can you get extremely ill if not taking binders because you don't do alternative testing (i.e., ART)?

I have no access to this stuff. I don't want to destroy my liver. Thoughts?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Taking binders has no relationship to ART testing other than some optimize what to take using such methods.

So, will not using ART mean you get ill? Not necessarily

Will not taking binders mean you may get ill? More likely.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Scott, I mean if you don't muscle test and tons of toxins are pouring out due to AI drops, can you get severely ill? No regular doc or typical LLMD will understand or recommend specific things.

I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp, what are you doing now to support your liver, etc. while on killing agents? Same thing applies with AI. Except when doing AI, the toxins are actually heading for the exits wanting to leave, whereas if we are still allergic to them they many are stuffed away in some body compartment where they will create problems again and again. My first reaction to AI was 2-3 normal BM a day; just like a baby -- every time it eats, it poops ---- unless it is already wheat allergic!

You don't need ART - which really only applies always to the present moment - not for tomorrow or the next week. Tensor testing only applies to the here and now, not tonight or tomorrow. The polarity, as it exists at the present moment when testing. The same for pendulum testing. No energetic testing can predict what the energy of the system will be in a few hours. It is only a loose guide. Common sense should always come first.

You could always get the inexpensive tensor (you make a donation if you can afford it) and learn to do it. It will tell you if you would prefer charcoal to some other binding agent at a certain time, like tonight before going to bed. It will also give you a clue as to what your body is detoxing depending what it tests for. My tensor I feel is worth its weight in gold. I can't fool it and it is my guide and always ready. Nobody can afford to have an ART person at the ready all the time. There is lots of talk here what people use - all can help. But it takes a little effort.

This is what I like to stick with:

As a rule, I think the body still prefers real food as much as possible. Whatever does the trick to evacuate, start sweating again, start peeing lots, etc. Only do what feels comfortable - so I was told. Feel good, read, love, walk, learn, sleep, rest, rest, rest, the body is very busy rebuilding regulation. Let the emotions happen --- watch out and recognize them. You don't need someone's couch. Stay away from the naysayers and the superbug discoverers! The switch into the right direction is already being made with the drops. Take the time to cry.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp,

"I know about the general stuff like activated charcoal, chlorella, etc. I'm not sure how bad it can get with AI...that's all."

AI sees the type of big or little chaos as they do our testing. That is why the testing is done in layers. And the drops are made to be tolerated. If you want even less reaction, reduce the intake of drops. Even one drop, i.e. "whispering the information to the body" will do (so Mrs. G. told me). They also recommend "take as many as the first number that comes to mind when you touch the bottle", but never more than 5 drops three times a day. Or test with tensor, etc. The reactions are shortlived, sort of like a gentle wave going through the system. Listen to your body.

Now I am off the air.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Thank you GiGi for the insight. I appreciate it.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Total 5 rounds for me. They didn't find anymore energetic blockages. This is very good news, and does seem to agree with what Gigi said.. the longer you've been ill, the more blockages you will have (I've been sick for about 4 years)

In the final analysis, my intestinal areas are still in the yellow (dysfunctional), but they say it will take some time for restructuring to occur (up to 1 year if disruptions existed for 10 years). Also, my "available bioenergy capacity" is still in the red (10-20%), & my incorrect cell polarity (% of cells with incorrect polarity or lacking energy) is unchanged from initial analysis, both of which make sense with my remaining symptoms being linked directly to mitochondrial dysfunction.

[ 06-05-2009, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: m0joey ]
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Cool. My reports have not been at that level of detail for a few rounds. What that new Joey? My round 6 just had chemicals and blockages again.
 

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Posted by zombie_mummy (Member # 17402) on :
 
So, is it my understanding that their final analysis will be more detailed, like the first one was?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Congratulations, Joey, even though a few areas are not exactly perfect [I was going to write A1!!].

Hope you will continue to progress in leaps and bounds,


Carry
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Zombie--that seems to be the case. I'm not sure what their format will be when others are done because they seem to change it with time.

Many areas showed improvement. The bars that didn't correlate with my remaining symptoms.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
I tested high for Pyroluria. I am doing treatment, as are many others. Is it advised to stop the KPU protocal to do AI???? Energy testing says no. Thanks for any feedback. Joyce
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Can you do AI testing if on Abx?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Healing,
"I tested high for Pyroluria. I am doing treatment, as are many others. Is it advised to stop the KPU protocal to do AI???? Energy testing says no. Thanks for any feedback. "

As I understand KPU, it will, if effective cause to mobilize certain toxins, etc. Most Lyme people who have taken the AI test so far all have major dysregulations for many toxins, so in my mind it would not make sense to shake the tree with the KPU before doing AI.

What happens if the immun system on the DNA level does not recognize these toxins? It would seem that if doing KPU when the body doesn't know what to do with the debris, it would only be adding more fuel to a fire that is already out of control.

AI works on the electromagnetic information level. KPU works on the biochemical/molecular area which is secondary.

AI suggest only to do what feels good -- in an effort to support, because the body is hard at work during AI restructuring (as I tried to explain above in several posts). And during that restructuring there is already some detox taking place.

Maybe check with your doctor.

Take care.

P.S. How do you energy test this? Testing refers to the presence, not the future. Just wondering and curious.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seekhelp, certainly you can take the AI test while on abx, and see whether you want to do the therapy or not.

Take care.
 

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Posted by n.northernlights (Member # 17934) on :
 
I ran across something that looks a little bit like AI drops: http://www.mkprojects.com/index.htm i wonder if it belongs in this thread.
 

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Posted by n.northernlights (Member # 17934) on :
 
Yes, it looks different, but some things are quite similar. Of course it is not tthe same, but I think it is along the same train of thought. http://www.mkprojects.com/ts_JimPrandi.htm

About joey, the cells with the wrong polarisation, I read about a treatment where you hold two glass rods and get treated with light and it is supposed to correct it. No idea if it works.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/50400#000000

This was discussed several times a few years ago.
I just had found another thread besides this above, but lost it and don't have time right now to search. Search and ye shall find. I think it was under vibrational assessment or similar.

I ran into this http://onibasu.com/archives/cl/13623.html
Mr. G. told me about this old case where the child learned to speak again.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/49952#000010

This is another thread where Mary Kuru was discussed.
 

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Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
Has anyone actually read how this treatment is suppose to work? I read the entire site and all I can get from it is they supposedly add electricity/energy/vibrations to a mixture of water and ascorbic acid?? There's no merit to that whatsoever. Anyone that has a full understanding of chemistry knows water has one vibrational frequency... that's it, same for ascorbic acid and other molecules. This really sounds like a bad scam preying on people that don't understand the details of certain subjects of science by stating vague downright silly explanations.

I read more on "vibrational medicine" only to find the same nonsense. I want everyone to understand this, every chemical has a set vibrational (in chemistry called resonant) frequency that is determined by it's molecular structure, you CANNOT CHANGE IT unless you actually change water into hydrogen and oxygen for example.

If this treatment was to somehow work then they have no idea how it works, they can't explain how it works and it's something no one on the planet can test as of yet or be sure about because no science backs it up.

I just hate to see any of us wasting time and money while we're desperate. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying anything that works. But if you understand everything to this you'll understand that the old theory of letting yourself bleed out the infection or allergy has just as much merit as this.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Oh no, it's not legit?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I'm very optimistic and have had good results with AI drops. I am on round 6 now and will continue the full protocol.

I've seen far too many things with the treatment to suggest it is working. There are common threads of experiences that people have while on the drops.

There are many different types of vibrational medicine out there and the statements above discount many/all of them. My journey has been significantly impacted in a positive way as a result of energetic testing and frequency-based therapies.

I wouldn't count AI out based on one opinion, an opinion from someone that has not experienced the therapy personally.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
All I know is that immediately after starting the AI batches for chemicals and toxins, my energetic doctor tested chemicals & toxins in my blood as a priority to be treated. Similar trend happened with heavy metals after the first round of AI

Their final analysis of physiological markers actually correlated with what symptoms of mine have improved since starting AI and what problems I know still remain.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
mOjoey,

Not to say AI doesn't work, but since you have to tell them your symptoms and improvements each time you send in a sample, how do we know their final analysis is not based on what you say rather than the sample of saliva or blood they test.

Just playing devil's advocate (I am waiting for round #4 and don't know yet if it works, except I do feel tired on it).

Hiker53
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I strongly feel that any alternative practicioner/company that knows your symptoms before delivering a service is very prone to fraud. That's my issue with Nutritional Response Testing (form of ART).

I say the practicioner should know nothing concerning your condition and make an accurate assessment using the tool they offer for pay. Otherwise, how can you sleep at night knowing they didn't abuse the situation?

Scott, as the Bionic 880 got you off Abx, do you think AI drops will be able to get you off of the supplements (or most) you take currently to sustain your health? Also, this applies to the many other alternative treatments (Progurt, Magnets, etc.). I'd hope eventually this would happen as it would show success in my eyes.

Personal accounts of people's health on the product(s) is helpful too though.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Don't know what AI will do in the long-term yet. I doubt I will ever stop doing at least portion of what I am now. Some ongoing but smaller protocol I suspect over time.

If it turns out that very little is required after AI, all the better. I suspect I have 6 months left before I am done, but we will see.

Seekhelp, do you feel the same about conventional medical doctors? If they can tell you that you fractured your ankle only after you tell them that it hurts, is that fraud? Do you just go sit in their office and ask them to tell you what's wrong?
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Scott, that is a good analogy about the conventional medicine doctor. Well, first I am not a doctor. They would provide proof via X-ray, MRI, CT-scan, etc. that the joint is injured so it's verifiable by outside sources.

I'm not fan of conventional medicine at this point you may imagine! BUT BUT BUT, remember they aren't 'selling' you something based on their results. That's huge. The conventional MD tells me to rest, wear a cast, or other ideas. The alternative practicioner under a NRT scenario says the 'cure' is $500 more with of supplements they sell in the office. Conflict of interest is an issue for me. When under one roof you Dx the issue, propose the solution, and sell the goods, providers must be more carefully reviewed IMO for your own financial safety.

At least AI is 'peeling an onion' that doesn't cost additional $$$ to see the next layer. lol. NRT is the opposite. The onion is the size of a watermelon to make more $$$ off the ill patient hoping to achieve that unholy health status.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well I havent been taking suplements as A1 instucted and the only " therapy" Im taking is the A1.I havent eating or done anything from the ordinary and im doing round 3 now and my finger nails are starting to grow long and pretty.That has never happened before.Cant wait to paint them soon !
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I'm not so sure they aren't selling you something. You get prescriptions. They often profit. Or many of them also sell other products in their offices.

I think it depends as much on the person and their own ethics as it does anything. I understand your point though. Unfortunately, it is also the types of things that come out of NMT or like testing that are not covered by insurance so it seems even worse.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Yes, you are right. I don't believe for a minute docs pushing SNRIs aren't making kickbacks on this stuff in the form of vacations. I worked on another end of the health care arena and know about some of this first hand.

The bottom line is there is a lot of corruption in the world. One has to sniff it out the best possible to survive.
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
Because I never actually gave them an update of my symptoms. Got lazy about it to be honest.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
My experiences to date:

Tired or extreme energy

GI issues are resolving

Very old vertical ridges on fingernails going away

My skin is soft and smooth, wrinkles and all

Detoxing at my own bodies rate and more easily

Sweating more

Face is breaking out

Anxiety a thing of the past

Yeast seems to be resolved

I think a lot of fungus has moved out of my head and sinuses

Some days have been rough but I am feeling quite good

I can eat the foods I had been allergic to as long as I don't over do it - gut needs to heal more

Everything changes day to day

Someone mentioned that anyone with a knowledge of chemistry would see this is bunk - not exact words.

I read it to my husband who does know chemistry and he said they may be correct about molecules but there is more out there than chemistry in the universe.

If you have watched "The Living Maxtrix" you will hear from many science experts that energetic medicine will be the medicine of the future.

Didn't people once think the world was flat?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Started round three.

More chemicals have been found in me and my daughter.

I am now getting acne...I"ve never had it before.

Daughters' acne had cleared during the two week break, but now is blooming again with round three.

Also, emotional releases with her.

My eyes crust in the morning, like I"m eliminating more toxins. And my joints are swelling more than normal.

My nails are growing for the first time in years. They have been very thin and brittle. Now are improving.

LP
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
I am still confused whether you can take binders such as zeolite while doing AI or wait until the period between rounds of AI or wait until you have totally finished AI to do the binders?

And what about vitamin supplements. The main ones I take are vitamin D and the omegas and milk thistle. Occasionally the biotensor says to the multivitamin or vitamin B, but not regularly.

HIker53
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Ping and Hiker, I've been wondering along the same lines: it certainly takes an act of courage to cut yourself off from years of multiple supplements!

I am going to have handy zeolites, charcoal and Jarrow formulas' Toxguard Heavy Metal Detox [Pectasol Chelation Complex] for when I think metals are released.

As for other supplements, I'm thinking about keeping on with magnesium, maybe digestive enzymes and basic liver and kidney support, unless told otherwise!

What about probiotics? Are people taking them whilst on the therapy?

My first round of drops has been sent out and I'm in UK, so I will probably be starting at the weekend.


Carry
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
The acne has been sporadically bad for me. (Also never an issue before). It's still coming out even though I'm done with treatment.. we only have so many routes of elimination, and the skin is our largest organ. Only makes sense.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Ping,

I have done three round of AI already. The third round showed the same amount of imbalances as the second round, but they didn't say if they were the same imbalances or different ones.

I e-mailed Mr. G this morning as did a friend of mine, but let's share what he says. He does not speak English well, so I did the e-mail in German and said to write in German and I will use the google translator.

As I said before I take very few supplements now and am more curious about whether I can take zeolite with AI.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
When I asked Mr. G about organ support and binders during round one he said they were fine once I started releasing things, which he didn't think was happening yet back then.

Now I have used them with round 3 & 4 but away from the drops by a couple of hours.

As I wrote early on, I cleared the incorrect information for foods, metals, molds, fungus and chemicals with round 1.

2,3, and 4 have been newly found chemicals and blockages.

One of the pages of the first report speaks to the question about supplements.

I do take probiotics and am going to get betaglucan which gigi spoke of.

I tried Progurt for a spell but it was WAY too strong for me.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Hi Nana, what was your Progurt experience? What was it that was too strong? Interested in learning more about that. Thanks
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thanks for the info, Nanadubo.

I'll definitely share experiences, Ping, and good luck to you too when your drops arrive.


Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Scott, Progurt was good for my digestive tract initially but I find the salt water does the same thing.

Within an hour of eating it - and only 100 ml - I felt horrible. I stayed with it for awhile and I think it was pulling fungus and metals too fast.

Just my thoughts.

Ping, Apo-hepat is the one. You can also get the brand Pekana.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Nanadubo,

What did the first report say about supplements? It was all in German and I would hate to have to type it all into an internet translator if you know the answer. Yes, call me lazy!!


I am glad AI is working for you.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Hiker53,

I got a copy of the first report via email that was in English!

You could ask for that, rather than trying to translate the hard copy.

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I just hope this works. Even my allergies have allergies at the moment. I need a pollen free zone.
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Mr. G replied to my e-mail and said supplements and binders like zeolite were okay. However I am getting ready for round #4, so I don't know if that applies to each case.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
https://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/your_order.html

This is how I got through to AI/ PayPal the other day.

Hope it works. Germany has a holiday today. Office of AI is closed.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Addresses dysregulation but in a different way. Very interesting.

I'd love to hear what you all think of the concepts and I expect that this is not taken or discussed as NMT vs AI or visa versa.

I have had several sessions with strange "coincidental" shifts or just plain shifts, two which were most notible:

After T3 recognition was addressed, my body temp went up to normal range and my hair stopped fallin out. It dipped back lower and I added a glandular blend and 1 iodoral. Prior to NMT, I had used lugols on and off and thylolar. No help.

I experienced a strong traumatic response to an event that had me out emotionally for days. After my appt where my trauma pathway was addressed, the stong emotions that I seemed to be close to lost in were gone.

I am still half in disbelief.

The explanation and thoughts of Feinberg are extremely interesting.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/lfeinberg.htm

Video interview with founder of NMT.

Leslie Feinberg on using language to restore communication between the cells

NMT is a proprietary system of health care developed by Dr. Leslie S. Feinberg of Oregon, and is a result of his many years of studying the multitude of methods of energetic medicine. In 2002, a breakthrough in his research resulted in the creation of a powerful system of healing based on the marriage of accepted principles of western science with Traditional Chinese Medicine concepts.

NMT is directed at re-establishing the body's innate capacity to heal. When illness happens, it is often a result of factors that confuse the body's internal control center, the Autonomic Control System (ACS), making it impossible to regulate the body to a healthy state.

Some of the factors affecting the ACS include allergies, toxic agents, confusion in the autonomic nervous system, errors in sensitivity settings, environmental chemicals and pernicious synaptic patterns (PSP's). Dr. Feinberg defines PSP's as errors in recording of data in the nervous system that compromise regulation of body function. They are patterns of reacting set in the body, based on past experience and family patterns.

Leslie Feinberg's NMT, Neuromodulation Technique, is one of the most elegant and efficient pathways to healing developed to date. Working with consciousness at the quantum level, NMT helps create clear communication between the cells of the body, By reinstituting proper communication between the cells, the natural healing systems of the body can progress without impediment.

Feinberg says that NMT uses language from the practitioner directly to the client's body to determine where the breakdown in information systems is taking place. Using NMT protocols, the practitioner works with the quantum healing forces of the body to gain cooperation from the areas of the body, mind and soul that have fallen out of communication and the healing process follows - sometimes surprisingly quickly.

Learn the principles of the Feinberg Technique: The Feinberg Technique

For a full explanation of how the Feinberg Technique works click on the following link:
The American Chiropractor

Related articles: Smithson Clinic

To find an MNT practitioner near you or to become a licensed practitioner, visit Dr. Feinberg's website at www.nmt.md

[ 06-12-2009, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: R62 ]
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
R62, since you have expereinced this therapy, could you give a quick explanation how the instructions are given to the body, in a practitioner's office, how long does it take, how frequently are the treatments done, and what is the cost involved.

I have spent a half hour on the sites and still can't figure out how the treatment is actually done, what they use to do it, etc.

Appreciate your explanation.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
The scripts I cannot quote. They are long. My therapist seems very intuitive naturally. She uses her body to dowse during the queries, scripts.

You are familiar with how energetic testing is most responsive to the most specific questions? I think that is playing here.

The queries, scripts are very specific. When she ran my dna pathway, it included specifics I was familiar with and not familiar with going indepth into the methylation pathway for example.

At some point, though fascinating, I tend to give up trying to consciously keep up with the info in the query, script.

I wish there was an example of one available. I was impressed with how specific they are.

The query and instuctions, script are read from from the computer. But to get to a pathway, first the practioner asks questions as to what is going on and where you are symptomatically.

Then she makes a decision to test the relevance of addressing a pathway and asks this body if this pathway is beneficial to address and gets very specific even with that question.

She puts parameters on this such as the ability of the body to handle the effects of treatment.

Once settled on a pathway, the script begins. I have only had one in office visit. The rest have been long distance. So I cannot remember how many times she tests me in response to the scripts.

There is a point at the end of the script that she has me breath and pant. She measures the effect through the computer until I register 100% .. how this is accomplished I have no clue.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
I can add that the script, instruction, query, whatever addresses past, present, future, miasms. Also cellular level, dna.

The only touching that is involved is the muscle testing. For me, that was sometimes a hand on my arm while my therpist dowsed with her body while sitting by my side.

Questioning along the lines of: is the body recognizing the specific query such as T3 or a certain type of toxin then a script for the body.. and honestly I am drawing a blank other than remembering how specific.

This is not suppose to address your conscious mind, rather your unconscious mind which does rule your body.

30 minutes can do one or two pathways depending on how indepth that pathway gets.

I think cost varies among practioners. My cost is 65$ a visit. Every 3-4 weeks.. it takes time for one to process.

It is more expensive that AI in the long haul, I would think. To further clarify, I am not posting this to compare one better than the other, rather to gain and share insight and perspective into these types of therapies.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
If you get to about 27 minutes on the video, he gives an idea of how a session goes.

At about 38 minutes, he tells how effective NMT is for treating cavitations.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
R62, thank you. That explains some of it. When I have time, I will listen.
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We have done AI since January.

For the first time in years, my husband's blood pressure in many years is now tending to be normal around 120/75, without any medication. Not even licorice or hawthorne. It used to be so low that I could not test it. He fainted several times where I had to revive him with capsicum tincture and take him to ER last November.

For many years, for him it was also impossible to find a vein to do a blood draw - without going to very difficult areas. 4 pokes, arm baths, etc. used to be the rule, even in a hospital, except a special Dr.K nurse who had the hand for it. The last two draws this month took less than a few seconds.

So one of the major hurdles is being overcome - which of course means an improvement in oxygenation of the body. The terrain can revive where all the critters and toxins could hang out. This, with a few drops of informed water and no medication whatsoever is miraculous in an 83 year old.

There are other small changes in his major problem area - motoric. But as expected, it takes to get to the last error and the core to clear all dysregulations. He is not there yet.

We will see what the rest brings. We probably will be in this process (taking drops) for a few more months and are fully prepared to do that. I was told that the when the drops are finished when AI no longer can find an error in the DNA, the ability for the body to regulate again would of course continue and the body would shed some of the toxin, relearn some functions, as time goes on. In other words, errors removed, and now body can or is supposed to function again as it should have done before toxicity, infection, emotional loads, etc. Only as it has the chance and time to fully regulate again, will the health change. The tools to clean up are now there -- this is how I understand the therapy. Some people will have a quick breakthrough, some will take longer. The body took many years to arrive at the state where it is difficult to overcome infections. It took my husband some 83 years to accumulate all - lots of it in the Navy with heavy chemical exposure. He is clearing many chemicals along with emotional blockages right now! Body, soul, spirit.

So any of you you are doing the drops, hang in there and be patient. As long as you just feel a bit more tired or have any sense of something going on in your body, the body is responding to the drops. This is what we are told.

We are very happy with the results so far and will keep doing the drops. We are doing no other ``forced'' detoxification while on the drops, because the body is very busy building new regulation cycles and detoxing at the same time. Enough is enough. We only support of the systems/organs to clear. I think I described this in other posts.

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While I am at it, I would like to send Pyjorka a comment in response to hers of a couple days ago.

Pyjorka,

I always find it amusing when someone tells only what they know as THEIR truth! inspite of not being familiar with the subject at hand. Yet this thread exists and seems to be of interest to many.

I would welcome your making your opinion known, if you could prove to me that this therapy is not effective; and then of course your onesided way of looking at things should be made known. But as long as that proof is missing, it should not be an indication that the therapy is not effective and does not work, and worse, calling it a scam. It only is an indication that science still has its limitations. It makes me think (sadly) that you have not done enough research in this particular area, especially not as it relates to the AI Therapy and the whole philosophy behind it.

For this reason I feel your comments do not mean much and are unimportant at least to me, especially after experiencing the therapy for a number of months in very positive ways.

Good luck on your way and, as I have learned over time, investigate things twice and thoroughly before you entertain them.

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I also would like to add here that I have been asked some time ago by
Mr. Grundmeyer whether I would, if the need arises, help translate for some people, if they have certain questions. I agreed that I would gladly help --- which in a way I have done all along already for people I care about. I do not get paid for this either, and I only help when there really is a language difficulty. I don't translate texts from their website and I do not translate medical reports, etc. It is too time-consuming and carries too much liability. I do not want a job -- I have plenty on my hands. My flower garden is also thirsty and the birds scream at the empty birdbaths!

You all have fun this summer - it is really going to start in a bit over a week. My veggie garden is finally in and I take a walk around with my grandson counting the blossoms on the tomato plants. It is so much fun and Lyme is fading further away day by day.

Take care.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
From Gigi "Lyme is fading further away day by day."

Now, that's a blessing I declare over all of you!

That made me so happy when I saw it.

I'm taking that as my own!!!!!
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Yikes, I got my first AI test via email.

Almost nothing was in normal range.

Many metals and grain allergies.

Rather than get freaked out, I shall go to bed.

Nite.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

I'm currently in my 2-week wait before sending another sample (the fourth) in to Allergie-Immun.

Recently, I've had my blood pressure tested a couple of times. It USED to be so low that a nurse would look at me like, "how can she be sitting up and breathing?" 80 over 50--or lower--was not unusual.

Anyway, my blood pressure is now routinely in the normal range--a bit over 100 on top and about 70 or so on the bottom, as I recall.

Also, I'm having a normal range temperature (98.3-98.6) daily now. For YEARS, my highest temperature during the day was 97.8 or lower. Since subnormal temperature=thyroid dysregulation, I'm a happy person!

I definitely have more GOOD days, on average, than I had before I started these drops.

Still have tinnitus, need at least a one-hour nap each day, memory problems, and a lack of productivity.

I am also taking the vitamins and minerals for KPU treatment (but a bit lower on the zinc)--I was already taking everything except the Manganese! Due to seizures, which started up while treating for Lyme, it's not safe for me to stop these supplements.

I've just begun a parasite cleanse, working with my LLMD, and hope to be done with the first segment of that before the next set of drops arrives.

Hope to hear more reports from those taking the AI drops!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Lovely to hear about those great changes, Cass A: I would love to get my temperature up and thyroid
working properly, after my current thyrotoxicosis scare has died down.

May you continue to reap benefits,


Carry
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
My cycle 1 drops arrived this morning, but I want to postpone starting them for probably about a week or at most 2] because of the thyrotoxicosis problems I'm having [ie. until worst symptoms die down].

Presumably, since thre is no requirement to store them in the fridge, there is no problem associated with keeping the drops for a bit longer than expected?

Carry
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
One more time as the instruction don't seem clear. AI or 2 weeks and wait another 2 weeks to do the next saliva sample, or do you do the sample right after the first 2 weeks of drops?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I send the next sample the day that I complete the round.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Did anyone else get mostly high yellows and a few reds? I think I only had one thing in the normal range.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Hobok, my instructions that arrived this am with this first round of drops say, 'Please send us a saliva sample about 2 weeks after you have stopped taking the drops'.....
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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, keep going from the link above to

https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=marketing_us/send_money

I know it could be made easier.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo, all the tests I have seen from people who have, had, or do not have Lyme yet, look very similar.

One of the main culprits is the wheat; and the 9.1 (present life unresolved conflicts); 9.2 Inherited conflicts; and 14.1. (Inherited toxins).

If you add up all the red x's and the red numbers -- all those together cause the problems.

When these are corrected with the drops, the green/yellow/reds will return to better when the body is able to start regulating again --- it can take months as long as the body keeps regulating in the right direction. The drops will continue to work long after you have finished.

One particular error does not cause one particular problem. It is the SUM of all
which eventually can make us ill, unless resolved.

Don't worry about the conflicts - if you feel like crying, cry!!! Just learn to flow with it.

Take care.


P.S. Of all the some 15 tests I have seen, I was the only one that did not have any wheat or food allergies. Maybe this is the reason I was able to get over Lyme rather quickly, especially at my age. This is my take on it. Wheat intolerance, even hidden, was my husband's downfall, because it results in poor nutrient absorption for many years (leaky gut, etc.)
 

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Posted by Forgiveness (Member # 20417) on :
 
Hi Gigi, just started the drops this week, very tired and I have a cold from doing to much in my ministry, but that will pass. I like the AI drops. Troy
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, their e-mail address is

[email protected]

that is the one I have been using for months.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Troy, as you start clearing out some toxins, that can feel very much like a cold. That has been my experience.

Take care.
 

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Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
Hey Gigi I wasn't saying I had proof of anything. I don't have proof that eating dog poop won't help me get better either but I'm sure not going to try it, and I definitely won't pay someone for it. (sorry it sounds like I'm being a smart@SS I just pick an extreme analogy to make a point) Typically if you do something you do it in order to get a certain reaction. That's why it seems like a complete shot in the air to pay so much for water especially when the lab won't say how it is they infuse it with electricity... since they can't since it's not possible as far as anyone knows. So the real question I have is... what exactly are they doing? They won't say. Their rationalizations are typical of a strategy used by con artists, which is called disconnected metaphors. And when people use this strategy they teach others that don't understand the truth to use the same metaphors to get more business.

If I come up with my own theory that it might be possible to combine water with heat energy that will burn certain organisms when it comes in contact with them, yet I can't test it, prove it, or even figure out how to possible implement it.... then I would also just be selling people water.

So there's a big difference between a closed mind and simple logic and reason. But anyone that does this treatment can test it themselves. Finish the treatment then go get your food allergies tested at a lab that actually tests your food allergies with science. All I try to do is share my expertise when I can because I know I've needed direction from people in other fields of work since I don't know the things they've learned. I fell for a network marketing scam once cause I have no clue about that sort of thing, so no need for anyone to feel bad about figuring things out later than never.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
You mean the same food allergy testing that you can send to five different labs and get five different results?
 

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Posted by pryorka (Member # 13649) on :
 
Hey SForsgren, about what you said, what you're talking about happens because different labs test different antibodies. There are IGg1 IGg2, IGg3, and IGg4, plus IGe. Once lab that tested mine all they put on the report is IGg, but when I call them they tell me it's IGg2 they test. Why the heck they seem to pick a random one and not specify it on the test? I dunno. But when choosing a lab to test try and find one that test all four IGg antibodies. Another thing that throws food testing off is the actual food itself because of where it's grown the soil chemistry can alter protein levels in the food. So yeah it's not perfect, but keep track of what the lab is actually testing and you can better keep track of results.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
Can you be on your treatments while doing AI?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
pryorka, as I understand, this is not always the case. Some have sent blinded samples from the same blood draw to the same lab for the same test and gotten widely varied results.

Science alone does not have a cure for us. Thus, some of us are looking beyond today's science to options that may or may not become tomorrow's.

I agree with ping. If you do not find this therapy rationale, please allow those of us using it with results to continue our discussion.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Ping, my report months ago was in German but I went back and read my husbands which was more recent and in English.

They make recommendations regarding hydration, energy-relevant foods and supplements.

Since I don't know if these are specific to my husband, I'd rather not quote it but I suspect yours will say something similar.

I think that since our bodies are working so hard and overtime to make these regulations, he feels taking many different things may not be necessary or helpful - unless of course someone is on heart meds or the like.

He does tell us that if you need something to take it since the drops work on an entirely different level.

I was taking many, many different things when I started this in January and continued for a while.

I only take binders and organ support when tested as good thing and tweak things with this or that when it feels like it might be good.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
How specific does AI get? For example chemicals: are chemicals addressed as chemicals or are a specific list of chemicals addressed?

Same with emotional blocks, dysregulation? Can the test pick up which emotions and then address them?

Specific miasms, etc?

Can I get a copy of what AI addresses? Will the intitial test give that info?

The drops are made by matching frequencies (or not) to a healthy model of frequencies and then supplying the healthy frequencies?

Does anyone know how this is different from the other allergy/dysregulation therapies that involve energetic drops?

Sorry for all the questions at once. Thank you.
 

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Posted by Forgiveness (Member # 20417) on :
 
Well, the cold started coming on before I started the treatment, but I know the treatment is working, I am getting in the sauna now. I don't worry, I just trust. Troy
 

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Posted by Forgiveness (Member # 20417) on :
 
Gigi, is your husband better, I am going to pray for him. Troy
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, unless for an acute infection, they do not recommend abx. Of course, if someone needs an asthma drop or heart med to stay alive, that cannot be avoided. Many people here believe they cannot exist without abx -- I was the same way in the first few months -- and the decision is up to the individual. Some of the pharma drugs is what got us into trouble and all that plays a role in the clearing and returning the body to full regulation again.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
R62, you might try requesting the sample report from the AI website.

That will give you an idea of what they test for and what level of detail is provided.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
P.S. Of all the some 15 tests I have seen, I was the only one that did not have any wheat or food allergies. Maybe this is the reason I was able to get over Lyme rather quickly, especially at my age. This is my take on it. Wheat intolerance, even hidden, was my husband's downfall, because it results in poor nutrient absorption for many years (leaky gut, etc.)

To this P.S. I should have added that unlike many others who have taken the test I also showed no inherited toxins. i.e. no miasms. They do play a large role in chronic problems - as I was told by AI.

There is a lot of information on literally every aspect of chronic situations, and you really have to make an effort to read some of it by using a translating engine. Literally, every question is answered. Start by translating the Fragen & Antwort section (Questions and Answers). Another good place to read is the Forum. German people are not very good at spilling their personal life on the internet, but you will get some good explanations if you pick some of the new dates.
Remember, in German, the 9.6.09 means June 9.

You will also find some direct input from the AI Team responding to certain questions and general comments.

All the answers are there - even if the translation sounds a bit backward at times. You will get the general meaning of what is being written.

Please do make the effort. I don't care to get into battles of word with any naysayers and doubters - that train has left the station a long time ago.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
can someone PLEASE tell me if you can do AI while on herbs and Supps? I am having a HARD time going thorugh the thread because of cognitive and severe EMF sensitivety....

If someone could answer this I would greatly apprciate it....

To those who know me and my situation, do you think AI is worth it???

THANK YOU!
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Yes, you can. I am.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Great. Thanks Nutmeg. Thanks for the up, ping.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
thank you very much.... I think i am going to try it!!
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Gigi, I have printed out every bit of info I could get may hands on from the translated site and from the German site using a translator. I appreciate the direction, which I followed months ago.

I will go look for the sample report and see if that helps. Thats probably the best guide I can have.

I do not appreciate the implication that I am a naysayer, doubter etc. No way did I put that out and no way will I take that on.

Asking questions does not mean one is challenging and if one is for the sake of learning thats ok too. I do not like the idea of generalizing folks who do have questions as naysayers and doubters... not that there is a thing wrong with doubting.

For the sake of arguing, thats another matter.

Ive taken the NMT to another thread where folks who are using it (or interested in it) can talk about it.

If we need to create another thread for those who have questions about how AI works, perhaps we can do that too. What do you think?
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
NMT thread:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/82349#000002

Someone has posted some of the pathways addressed.

Body Talk thread:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/82357#000000

(personally I am interested in all three (AI, NMT, Body Talk) as well as a few other modalities, understanding the differences and strengths of each one and how each one might contribute to my healing)
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Gigi, thanks for sharing what info you have. None of us should expect you to do more than this as you are just using the product not producing it.

I did not see Gigi use anyone's name or make any implications, I read what she wrote as a generalization that she wishes not to get caught up in any disagreements due to her experiences in the past and why should she?

I'm sure some questions we have can only be fully answered by those producing these drops.

I'm very interested in seeing where this treatment takes you all.
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
No ones name has to be said. I did not expect Gigi to answer or anyone else. I hoped someone could answer.

I am familar with the dynamics.

It is OK to ask questions without others throwing out words such as naysayer or doubters which in context by nature imply.

If anyone has concerns about my intent, they can ask me personally. If someone wishes to draw boundaries with posters in general, do so in a separate post. Thank you.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
R62, I have never accused you of anything. What's bothering you? You seem to complain about me on other threads. I have tried to answer as best as I can every question you have directed at me also in previous threads. I can't do more.
So please leave me in peace.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Troy, thank you. My husband is definitely showing improvements as I posted earlier. AI is as hopeful on the old as it is on everyone else. They told me yesterday that they have had a few very difficult similar clients and why shouldn't their therapy work -- just because he is a little older? No, it will just take a little longer.
They hope and so do I.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, it is not necessary for you to order a test kit. It is much quicker if you just order the test, if that is what you decide, and send them a couple of drops of saliva on a small piece of tissue, fold a small piece of foil around it, put it in a snack baggie and mail in a letter envelope stamped with 94 cents, marked AIRMAIL. Maybe have it weighed at the post office. You can order the test only or the whole therapy. A friend of mine is making it in two payments because of short funds.

Enclose one sheet with your name, age, address, etc. and tell them how you intend to pay. AND TELL THEM SOME OF YOUR MAJOR SYMPTOMS IN FEW WORDS. That's what we did and it saved us waiting 2-3 more extra weeks. Sometimes it takes 10-12 days just to get overthere, and of course the same coming back, and somtimes it took less than two weeks for both the saliva sample sending and then getting the bottle back. The post since DHL is no longer doing the US portion for the German Post is unpredictable.

Good luck in your decision-making.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Is anyone following the advice that came with the drops to eat sugary ad carbonated drinks and sweetened apple sauce etc?

Since I am prone to candida and am sugar-intolerant, I'm reluctant to do this: what is the rationale for it, does anyone know?


Carry
 

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Posted by R62 (Member # 18531) on :
 
Gigi, if you have read the my threads more thoroughly, you will see that I have taken up for someone that was not being heard in my opinion and that I also took up for you on the bionic thread and the other thread you are referring to.

What praytell have I directed at you on previous threads?

Leave you alone? You are good at playing victim and not taking responsibility for your words.

Leave you alone? I will be more than happy to "leave you alone."

(excuse me, that was "leave you in peace")

Gigi, I am not sure if my questions were ever directed at you for you to answer, just anyone.

Sometimes my questions are answered and sometimes not. Thats how it goes. I appreciate when you have answered my questions, no doubt. I so not appreciate the way you have on a few occasions, as in the time you almost chastized me to "go do my homework" and put some effort into it after seemingly un beknownst to you I had been searching the archives for hours. You can be rude and meanspirited as well as helpful and kind.

I understand that you have a long history here and that it has not always been easy for you. I'm sorry that happened. You stuck it out in those times, and I can see why you have the respect from others than you have.

I am not a fighter. I do not argue for the sake of arguing.

I will draw boundaries.

You have no clue who I am and what I stand for personally and obviously choose not to hear when others (like me) have taken up for you, not that anyone is obligated to.

All you hear is when you not been taken up for. I see both sides, Gigi, and I will not take one side over another for the sake of it.

I really dont want to post on this thread anymore.

[ 06-13-2009, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: R62 ]
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
The colon needs different kinds of liquids to function properly.

He speaks of carbonated mineral water frequently as different substances in water change its behavior.

"Non-carbonated mineral water does not satisfy the colon's water demand."

Fruit juice, soups, stewed fruit, apple sauce all supply different forms of liquid. He does mention them always being sugared - soups salted.

I'm not sure why the sugar but I wonder if maybe he feels that this is also a food that shouldn't hurt us cooked in foods, when things are operating properly.

If you can't tolerate it I'm guessing that unsweetened applesauce if fine. Bottom line I think is to take in plenty of liquids in forms other than just plain water.

R62 - chemicals are addressed as chemicals. Sometimes they are named and sometimes not.

Miasms are listed, energetic blockages as well as where they are located. Inherited toxins, inherited unresolved emotional traumas as well as ones we've collected on our own.

The initial test results are very in depth and specific. Hope this helps.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thank you for explaining, NanaDubo:

I think I'll give sugar a miss on the first round and maybe try it on round 2.

I find myself naturally wanting to eat food much more salted than how I liked it years ago when in better health, so that won't be a problem for me, though I see your difficulty, Ping.

By the way, Ping, did you ever try hawthorn for your hypertension?


Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Ping - do you use Himalayan salt? If not, try doing a google search. It's much different than sea salt.

ND
 

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Posted by m0joey (Member # 13494) on :
 
For anyone with systemic candida, I would be hesitant to follow those "sugary" recommendations. I'm (tentatively) done with AI, and I still have systemic candidiasis. In fact, it's the one type of pathogen I'm consistently testing for now. Especially for those with CFS symptoms--our bodies are relying on anaerobic metabolism and hence produce tons of lactic acid. This is a vicious cycle that leads to acidosis and fosters growth of candida. A few weeks of AI drops will not change that. A few months down the line, maybe.

If you feel hypoglycemic, it may mean that your pancreas isn't working. It produces not only insulin to break down sugar into energy but glucagon to break down glycogen into glucose. Because of the strain on ATP production, our pancreas is stretching itself thin trying to pump out sugar and glycogen for energy production. Support the pancreas, and you may find relief. Pancreatic glandulars are an option, and I take CCK, which stimulates production of enyzmes by the pancreas--which also reminds me:

you need proper enzyme support to oxidize nutrient molecules to a form that can be converted to energy by mitochondria. This is a commonly overlooked step in energy production. For many, Betaine-HCL and a complete plant enzyme complex (I use quantum digest) is a must
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Below is some of the text that comes with the English version when you get your 16 page test results. The instructions come with the test results, nothing in the test kit. I made my own as I described somewhere above. They are economizing as best they can to keep the price affordable; that is what I assume being familiar with German mentality. Thinking green.

Joey, I heard year after year after year by Dr. K., that as long as the excess metals are in the body, the body will produce fungi to protect itself from the damage by the metals.
A systemic fungi problem will take months to disappear, once the dysregulations re fungi/mold/penicillin, etc., has been lifted usually with the first drops. I think that will take time - the body is working. My husband's only fungal toenail is already growing out healthy started on the third month of drops. But I am sure internally it will take longer. He had a bad (silent) case of aspergillus, etc. etc. and was not able to deal with any fungi or penicillin, etc. Ai found him to be allergic to all of them. All tests from Lyme people that I have seen or heard about are allergic/blocked to most fungi types at DNA.

Re Enzymes: If you get your test back, many I have seen, including my husband's, show an energetic blockage, an "Enzyme Dysfunction", at DNA. That alone will explain many of our problems with metabolism. Encymes are the catalysts for chemical reactions. They are in all cells of the body and are specific to the different organ systems. If these don't work, not much else will work too well.

Here is the text re food and drink. I think I posted a couple of months ago that I was told by AI that drinking water by the quart or gallon is not the best idea because it runs straight through. I have had similar input from Dr. K. I am sure some people saw Dr. Oz's test with water drinking by twins (on Oprah). Fazit: whether you drink a ton or none of plain water - no difference in the test results

They recommend to satisfy the different compartments of the digestive tract to use foods that contain a lot of liquids. Nano mentioned it well. Then the different digestive sections have something to work with besides water using different consistencies - mushes, soups, juices of all kinds.

When they mention the word "sugary" I know that they are not talking about the "sugary" part of canned fruits as they are available in the US. My mother used to put up fruits for the winter, and the liquid contained barely a trace of sugar and of course the juices of the fruits. That is what they are referring to -- not the syrup type. It's hard to keep the true meaning when translating into another language.

Most German household unless they are very poor have a box of mineral water supply in the cellar or other cool place. There are so many natural water wells supplying different mineral waters depending on the area, all over the country - that is the water they are referring to. They all contain different levels of minerals and everyone swears by the one that helps him/her to have a good BM every day, etc.

I don't think AI is talking about Gatorade or soft drinks loaded with artifical flavors, chemicals and sugar.

As children and adults we used to take a basket of empty bottles and take a hike 15 km away to the nearest Bad (bath) something, usually also the name of the city or town. We had a good long drink and then filled the bottles and carried them home. Often the fountain spitting out this water is in the middle of town, the market place. It is still that way in many of the smaller towns. People spend their vacations drinking the waters there and over the years, decades, centuries, the towns turned into resorts for vacationers.
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This is a part of the Instructions that come with the test results - which in total is a 16page report:

PSP-Therapy Instructions

As a result of any measure aimed at strengthening the immune system, the activity of the immune system increases - as intended - and a lot more additional harmful substances are made available for elimination.
If the elimination capacity is not sufficient - or if it is reduced - side effects occur that actually can become dangerous. Also, the patient may mis-interpret the situation: ''This does not agree with me...''
It is logical, although often ignored that the elimination of harmful substances and toxins can occur only through excretion. This is mainly excretion through urine and colon, in addition there are transdermal excretion (not only sweat) and excretion via tear fluid and nasal discharge. The role of vomiting or coughing

A prerequisite .for excretion is a sufficient supply of water, salt and alkaline pH. If these prerequisites are not met, the excretion of harmful substances is not possible. A typical consequence is an overload of the lymphatic system with swelling in the lymphatic areas, fluid deposits in tissue, especially in joints, feeling of being bloated and without energy and of having limited motility. In addition, skin imperfections can occur.

`Hay fever' - often mis-diagnosed as an allergy - is only the body's attempt to eliminate via nasal discharge the pollen it has identified as intolerable. In case of liquid or salt deficiency or if the body is in the basic area, the body cannot make available enough nasal discharge for excretion; the result is 'dry rhinitis (Schnupfen )' and the alarm cry 'allergy'. Usually one would have watery eyes and a 'full nose' for a couple of hours. That would be it, however, to get rid of the rhinitis, the nose is `dried' (trockengelegt) and the fluid supply reduced...

According to a US study 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated, numbers for Germany should be similar. Even minor dehydration slows down the metabolism by 3%; water deficiency is the number one cause of tiredness during the day.

Eliminating dehydration reduces the risk of colon cancer, breast cancer and bladder carcinoma by 45%, 79% and 50%, respectively.

The first question is how to recognize dehydration. Dehydration is present if the objectives of the human fluid balance cannot be achieved. The human fluid balance functions on several levels, which facilitates the diagnosis of dehydration:

1. First the body tries to maintain the stability of the cardio-vascular system by keeping the required volume of liquid within this system.
2. On the next level, the fluid serves as a means of transport to ensure supply to the body's cells.
3. Any liquid not used for this is excreted, with harmful substances being transported in the excrements.

Problems usually occur in step 2 or 3, especially with excretion, as this occurs on different levels and this is where the first symptoms of insufficient fluid supply occur. Ophthalmologists often detect the symptoms of dehydration at a very early stage, as tear fluid also is a discharge and the eye is supplied with liquid via capillary vessels. However as they are not dehydration specialists, their recommendation 'You need to drink more' usually is ignored.

One symptom of dehydration is that the natural feeling of thirst disappears, another is a certain aversion to increased hydration and the third the habit of drinking unsuitable beverages.

Additional substances in the water change the behavior. Even spring water with suspended mineral particles remains in the body about twice as long, and together with the suspended particles parts of the fluid are separated and discharged via the colon. If the ph value is reduced, we have a sufficiently agreeable tolerable beverage. This is almost the case with non-carbonated mineral water if we ignore the suspended particles. Because of this, non-carbonated mineral water does not satisfy the colon's water demand.

Please ensure sufficient hydration. Carbonated and sugary beverages and juices should be included. Add soups (well salted), mash[7] and stewed fruit or apple sauce - always sugared (canned with sugar).

Bioenergetic Therapies and Diets

Bioenergetic therapy does not forbid specific foods or recommend avoiding them. It does, however, require the intake of energy-relevant foods.

During this therapy, do not avoid specific foods or substances and do not use supplements. This applies also to the bioenergetic therapy of pseudo-allergies or to 'substances known to be harmful' in case of bioenergetic disorders that where mis-diagnosed as a disease (An example is the so-called celiac disease that has bioenergetic causes and is usually treated by excluding gluten. This, by the way, is also applicable if the bioenergetic diagnosis shows gluten intolerance: This intolerance is already mentally `anchored' and bioenergetically manifested although it is not related to celiac symptoms that potentially can be dissolved on
another level.)

Recommendation:

If possible, do not avoid any foods. Exception: during the two weeks you take the drops, you can avoid individual foods known to trigger a reaction. After this time you should begin to eat these again, in particular wheat products, eggs and meat. For good diet recommendations, refer to:
http://www.netdoktor.at/Ratschl�ge/fakten/ernaehrungskreis.shtml

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Take care.

[ 06-13-2009, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Gosh, this is wonderful information.....

Okay, so salted soups/broths, mashes, somewhat-sugared juices..... but what can we use when we want water that is `hydrating'?

I'm sure they don't mean to buy the American version of bottled, carbonated mineral water..... and the `spring water' we have in bottles here isn't what you would find in Germany.....

...... and is there anything we can do to filtered tap water, reverse-osmosis water, or even distilled water so that it will hydrate us? Just adding minerals to water doesn't seem to work (if I read the information correctly).

[ 06-14-2009, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: Truthfinder ]
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thank you, Joey and Gigi, for your answers about 'sugary foods'.

I'm sure you're right re.the pancreas, Joey, and I have taken digestive enzymes of one sort or another for the last 10 years; funnily enough I have been thinking of going back to betaine-HCL as well, or maybe apple cider vinegar or licorice before meals.


Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Truthfinder - many grocery stores or health food stores sell Pellegrino from Italy.

There is also one I get that comes from Germany called Gerolsteiner.

Those two are pretty common in my neck of the woods.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Thank you, Nana. I wrote both of them on my list. I'll see what we have here.

This is so interesting..... seems like the latest prevailing wisdom is that pure water is the way to hydrate the body, and all other forms of liquid (like juices, herbal teas, soups) are inferior to water in this respect.

The AI folks are proposing just the opposite.

I've been avoiding most forms of liquid other than what we think of as `good water'.... and I'm not getting anything out of it. I'm certainly ready for a new approach.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I am still in shock today about how nice my fingernails are! This may not sound like a big thing to you all, but for many years, my nails were gradually getting weaker, thinner to the point of almost having no nails. They had been paper thin and would rip from the tip of of my finger, deep into my cuticle, and pull away from my cuticle, with no connective tissue to hold them in place. It is not a fungus. I tried many nail therapies, and every vitamin, and mineral but nothing helped...it has progressively gotten worse, until the AI drops.

I would have to regularly put bandaids on them just to use my hands, so the nails would not rip and bleed if I hit them accidentally. This is very painful and annoying as it affects everything I use my hands for.

About a week ago I noticed the change... They still have not grown all the way to the tip of my fingers...but they feel so strong and look shiney and healthy. I am typing this with a smile on my face..and no broken or hurting fingers! I am in shock..and amazed, as the AI is the only therapy I have been doing! Specifically the past two treatments are focused on chemicals, and this round is unnamed chemicals.

Over the past 20 years, until I became sick with lyme, I have been doing my nails, not being aware of the damage I could have caused myself by the chemical coumpounds. I do feel that these chemicals are being released by the AI.

I am now getting painful, red bumps, on the joints below my fingernails...almost like the toxins are moving there, away from the nail connective tissue.

Anyone else with similar findings?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
How interesting, Lymeparfait, and how nice for you!
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
That' great LP!!

I have noticed the same with my fingernails although they weren't paper thin like yours.

Mine had a lot of vertical ridges which are going away. Some fingers more quickly than others.

Truthfinder - if you get stuck and really want these types of water you can order them from water maestro.

I have no affiliation with them.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, did you use PayPal?

E-mail me and I will call them to see if it got there. If you sent money by mail, it takes approx. ten days going and then ten days for bottle to reach you. Phone number and address is on their website. If you want me to call and ask, let me know. Glad to do it.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Fingernails and hair -- same with us! If that looks this good - wondering what the important insides look!

Relived a pain yesterday in my mid section. Lasted all day. The minute I felt the pain I remembered a visit to two of my aunts when I was eight or nine where I usually got very homesick and felt that same pain. I relived every phase of that stay - the old bakery with my aunts and grandfather and his floury beard - the huge breadbaking oven --. Even though the house was bombed during the war and is no longer standing. The pain is totally gone today.

This was probably one of the pain memories stored in the spine -- as shown in the test results - which has now been lifted. I used to have a lot of back pain in the early Lyme years, but no sign of any in recent years.

Take care.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
I had exema on my lower legs for almost 20 years, If I didnt use this certain lotion after bathing it would quickly come back.I havent needed that lotion for several monthes now, no sign of any exema It's been about the same time I've been doing A1.My fingernails are growing to, I just keep looking at them in admiration !
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP -

"I am now getting painful, red bumps, on the joints below my fingernails...almost like the toxins are moving there, away from the nail connective tissue."

Whenever I mention anything like this to AI, they suggest increasing fluid intake, to flush things out of cells and rest of body. I posted about type of liquids above.

I cook a lot of broth! Simmer meats, bones, flavoring, a shot of vinegar, for hours. The old stock pot method.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hypertension?

If you do a search (Suche) on AI with the word "Bluthochdruck", you will come up with six hits where they talk about hyertension.

If you click on the different hit numbers, you could translate with google. I know it balances blood pressure because my husband's has gone from a horribly low of 80-90/45-55 to 120/70's in 5 months or less. I didn't watch it every day, so don't know when it started to improve.

You will note that "Weizenallergie" (wheat allergy) comes up on the search for Hypertension, so you may find some answer there.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://www.allergie-immun.de/ihre-checkliste-01.html

Would suggest anyonewho wants to get more details that you translate this checklist. It tells a bunch.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks for the reminder about increasing the fluid intake...
LP
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I should be getting my drops any day noe. Excited more than skeptical cause of all your testimonies.

Is Gigi the first person with Lyme to try this?

Any Lyme testimonies?

I was discouraged that no one has seen a reduction in allergies yet after 6 months.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, yes, Bluthochdruck means hypertension.

Hobonite, from this group, yes, I believe I told about this therapy when I first heard about it. I s o w i s h I had known about it a long time ago. Actually, this therapy has been 20 years in the making. A senior member of the AI Team started it in the eighties, junior member active and very efficient last 10 years.

The son of the family had debilitating Lyme, was treated when acute, about one month, with abx when he was 17. Not being familiar with the drops at time of infection (became a family member later), he did the drops after abx. He is very well today approx. five years later.

I have yet to hear that AI finds Lyme in their clients. Most the time - not. They are not trying to cure infections. Often only the memory in DNA is left - no active infections. The aim of AI is to straighten out the chaos in the system caused by manmade and some inherited toxins to get the immune system to function on its own again to handle all that comes its way. Much on the emotional levels. Millions of people are infected with Lyme and don't get sick. The aim is to clean up the errors in the software, i.e. the dysregulations, the errors in the DNA. Biochemical malfunctions are often the result of DNA programming errors.
The food allergies, fungi, metal allergies are lifted/corrected usually with the first bottle. Then the system can start handling and reacting the way it should, i.e. stop reacting to good natural foods,recognize some of the toxic metals, what to do with the metals that are in the system, and thereby reducing the proliferation of fungi, etc. Read Heavy Metals and Chronic Disease by Dr. K.

Read some of my posts above where I explained that the body cannot possibly remove all neurotoxic substances in one fell swoop. I don't think we would survive that. There are usually no allergies left, unless you take a food that is combined in preparation with a chemical that one is still allergic to ( they refer to it as food relevant allergies). These are removed at every new testing. And there are a minimum of 60,000 chemicals that hit us 24/7, some of them hit us hard.

If you have been ill for say 10 years, it takes about a year for the body to clear out the undesirables and to repair damaged synapses, myelin, nerves, tissue, bone, everything that is affected. In other words, cleaning out the terrain to no longer provide a habitat for tough microorganisms.

Every allergy that I had is gone, except they are still working and finding groups of chemicals and emotional blockages connected with these. There are many layers to this onion - every layer is being searched and addressed. Be patient.

The "feeling good" for some comes right away, for some partially, for some it will take longer. My friend is still battling exzema, but she is no longer allergic to her own cat to have to keep her in the basement. And she has turned into a free person emotionally. Depression gone. for several months now. The system needs time to clear. The skin has been trying for years and since detoxification is starting to function better with the drops, skin problems can get worse at times.

All good things take time.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
About drinking water, last time I saw my MD (lyme specialist, but not total LLMD), he suggested I try drinking "that sparkling water they sell at Costco". (He also though AI sounded like a great idea for me, and he was very interested in the report, results, drops, etc.)

I never go to Costco, and don't know what they sell, so when I asked him for a name he said it's San Pellegrino. I do drink sparkling water occasionally, and always enjoy it, but don't want to drink it all the time due to expense, that fizzy feeling in my throat, and the waste of bottles, fuel for transport, etc.

My MD said though that some of his patients are having good results drinking it.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Nutmeg, In an earlier post I mentioned that many supermarkets and health food stores sell Pellegrino and a few sparkling waters from Germany.

The fizzy feeling may take some getting used to and yes, there is the expense and the bottles but in trying to stay properly hydrated while doing the drops it may be worth it for a spell.

Just a thought.
 

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Posted by Forgiveness (Member # 20417) on :
 
I emailed AI and asked, they said supplements are ok to take. Troy
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Generally, this is what I have been told for several months when the questions arose:

The aim with AI is to eliminate as much of the "materials" that the body does not know to deal with. Highly concentrated manmade vitamins are in that category and not normal to the body. They like it a lot better if we do not use medications and other supplements. It is so expressed in their German literature. If you google/translate, you will undoubtedly find it.

Whatever is needed to stay functional, that is necessary. An asthmatic to survive of course will take whatever is needed to be safe. So with everything else. You will have to be your own judge on that if you think a certain medication or supplement is a must.

Many supplements and fillers don't do much but clog things up - many of us just think we can't survive without them and I learned that nothing is worse than a vitamin that blocks me energetically. We try to use good judgement and take what we think we cannot do without.

I have often talked about taking pharma drugs and supplements with AI, and I have never found the answer to be different than what I am saying here. Of course, it is not helpful to take sixty supplements a day as many have been doing. And since this is not customary in Germany, it is very difficult for them to understand that anyone would be doing this many supplements. I know some people here are doing this, but it will not make the therapy trying to get the regulation back in order easier. Again, I think it's best to use common sense and this is identical to what I have been told when I inquired of AI.

The language barrier is present and it is very easy to misunderstand when one cannot finetune what one is trying to say.

Overall, the less we interfer with what they are trying to do to correct the errors in the electromagnetics, the information system, the quicker and safer it will be. Part of the therapy is a major attempt to clean up some we have caused which the body was never able to deal with, because it does not recognize it thereby only adding even more to the burden of the system.

Take care.

[ 06-16-2009, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
My daughter is complaining about very severe pain behind her eyes, and pain when she moves her eyes from side to side. almost migraine style pain, but not migraine headaches she says.

I believe Nana and others have posted about painful eye issues during hte initial phases of AI...

Anyone else have experience with this?

LP
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Just a general response:

I have had some pains - that did not last.
Some were memories of pain some caused by very old problems, some more recent. If you need a pain pill, so they (AI) say, take one. In the re-regulating process a number of old memories come up. If you read your 16 page report, they are stored in the spine area. They should not last longer than 3-4 days.

Others are toxin caused.
My eyes were also very much involved and still are, one day more than the next. It is a long process until the toxins can exit. I have felt it for a day or two, then okay, then another time again. When the toxins are exiting, which is very difficult from the eyes, I also feel it. But it is not anyhing that makes me unhappy --- the opposite -- I am glad it is finally coming out. My husband also has some matter come out through eyes, especially when he wakes in the morning. Sometimes it burns -- most chemicals are not made by man for the eyes.

I also try to stay away from much eye make-up and use only something that I am certain I do not react to. For many women, we are talking chemicals from hairdyes, makeup, cremes with additives and preservatives, shampoo and rinses, all readily absorbed by the skin, etc. It was never meant for our body, and if combined with bacterial and other pathogens, this is what contributed to the overload that finally broke the camel's back. Add a couple root canals, twelve in my case, and I am not surprised at what comes out now. I try to not pay attention to every little pain, because I think it is ppart of the process. In fact, I have clearly been told that at times things can get worse, before they get better. My husband reacts almost within a half hour --- I take one look at him and I know he just took the drops. For him, this route may be the only way out of a bad situation. We try to flow with it.

I try not to use anything that could possibly still be substance my body does not recognize, is still allergic to (in silence), When I get the "all clear - we cannot find any more", I will still be careful. Because they manufacture the chemicals faster than we can possibly adjust to.

Chemicals will show for some for several months and some of them will not be described in detail. There are too many and too many combinations of them. Often emotional blockages are tied to the chemical allergies.

That doesn't mean everyone has to have similar things happen, but if it does to us, I do not worry. Especially the emotions -- they are all over the place - but as long as we recognize that this is part of the process, it is easier to get through. Most of our problems originate with emotions. The biochemical effects are secondary.

Everything has two sides to it: polarities. Every polarity has an opposing polarity. Sun and Moon. Wellness and sickness. Peace and war. Everything has two sides, and if, like in medicine, only one polarity is taken into consideration, i.e. the material/matrix as opposed to the energetic base, this polarity will gain the upper hand. The consequence is disease and mostly chronic disease. There have never been as many diseases that are not curable as today. AI is trying to bring back the opposing polarity. These are laws of nature - whether one wants to believe it or not. Balance. We do have a choice - and isn't it nice.

Just rambling and not read.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I like teh cat testimony. That to me is a strong one.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo, maybe you should try google/translate the second story on here - I know the person and this is how I first realized that AI would be something I should pay attention to.

http://www.allergie-immun.de/Tiere/erfahrungen.html

My friend, who now can tolerate her cat, is the most honest and realistic person ever. I take every word she says as the truth.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Although I like people testimony better than animal ones. The animal ones show that this is no placebo eefect! I hope I get my drops tommorow!
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I finally translated most of the posts from the AI site with translate.google.com. Very interesting questions and responses.

There was even one about the nail problems resolved.

Confirms what we are posting here.

And great explanations from the AI team.

lp
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I just sent in my sample to get Round 7. It seems that Rounds 5 and 6 were not as notable in terms of fatigue, dreams, etc. Could be a sign that I am getting close to done. We'll see. Still excited about this therapy!
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I just got my test results today. I am a darn MESS!!! Not much that isn't blocked.

The energetic blockages in my spine are dead on where my test results/discomfort is. Eerie. I mean perfectly to the disc!

I have not decided if I'm ready to shell out the big $$$ for the drops. It's a big leap.

Allergic to wheat, corn and soy. I cut out wheat, but substituted with tons of corn/soy before. ALL my supplements have soy...hmmm.

Metals that show up are lead, nickel, and copper.

Genetic weaknesses are syphillis and tuberculinum??? Not sure what this means.

Blocked glands are pineal, thyroid, and pancreas.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just to finally have useful fingernails again without pain and bleeding is well worth the therapy cost to me!

This tangible and functional regulation was so amazing to me that I do expect that other things have happened already internally that cannot be detected by sight, and may never be felt physically, but will help my body be able to heal itself naturally of many of my disregulations, finally.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
I want to try this but I am a little worries that every body's test results seem to be almost identical as far as metals, food allergies, and these miasms of Syphillis and TB.... Can some one enlightem me because I am about to order a test RIGHT NOW.... I just cannot be ripped off anymore... I have been ripped off of SO much money from SO many treatments, doctors and practioners... I just don;t think I could go through that trauma again...
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I know it's personal, but I'd sure like to see people post their report specifics here to compare 10-15 of them. I too am concerned about that UnexpectedIlls.

The fact is picked up no viruses also is concerning KNOWING I have them.

There's always a chance for a rip-off. When a company can't physically explain how their product works, that's a tough sell.

I've grown so very wary of alternative medicine and the stuff I read here. There are a few avid supporters that seem to endorse all alternative and believe these treatments/products bring them one step closer to better health. There are others who publicly state they do not notice any benefits from any of them. The extremes are so much. You don't see middle of the roaders often.

The problem with any alternative (and maybe commercial labs) is they don't use healthy controls enough. Labs like Fry, Igenix, Diagnos-Techs, Neuroscience, and maybe AI probably do not test healthy people and compare to sick people due to lack of $$$ (reason supplied) or whatever reason. I firmly believe these labs should be FORCED to do this and audited by third parties consistently to prove their methodology. If results of sick people = healthy people for the most part, the tests have no validity.

All I know is there is a LOT of $$$ to be made by people/companies from sick, desparate people. It saddens me greatly.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
IMO, I don't think that you will be protected by the FDA or the pharmaceutical/medical establishment either. Is there really a reason that a course of some anitibiotics should cost thousands of dollars? I'm afraid money is very much a motivating factor here.

I saw a documentary of some hearing where the FDA was being taken to task for accepting studies from pharmaceutical companies to approve drug use and disregarding independant studies that came to an opposite conclusion. Wish I could remember the name, maybe it was Frontline or something.

They were also chastized for failing to show safety of drugs prescribed to children as they don't require proof they are just allowed to say the effects on children are unknown.

Recently we have seen the results of children poisoned with cough syrups and medicines which have been allowed for years until finally the damage was just too much to ignore. How many parents trusted these medicines as safe.

The whole system is inadequate and open to corruption and after being made sicker by it, I prefer to trust my own gut about things.

As far as AI drops not showing viruses, I thought I read somewhere in here that subsequent testing after your first round of drops will bring up other things needing to be addressed. Like revealing in layers what you need to work on. Correct me if I have misunderstood this.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
I hear you, Ping. I'm sure 7 yrs. of antibiotics must have cost you a fortune and what a shame it hasn't done what you hoped it would.

At that point what can you do but try other things?

I read on lymenet somewhere a post from someone who was about to lose their house due to the cost of several years of medical & antibiotic treatment. They were thinking that it was all a big ripoff because they were still sick.

I hope we all find what works for us but it won't be the same thing for everyone, I think that's why there is so much experimenting with these different treatments.

I must say though that the cost of AI really isn't expensive compared to what people can spend on doctor's visits & antibiotics.

I'm still waiting to see more results before I decide to try this. Thanks to everyone sharing your results.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Has anyone had a test where every single area is blocked (not normal limits)? I read the report, but to me it's pure mumbo jumbo. No one can comprehend it most likely unless you're a physicist or some real outside the box thinker.

I literally have not one normal result. Spinal blockages, bioenergtic blockages, 6-7 emotional/pyschological blockages, metals, DNA allergies to penicillium and mucor mold fungi(s), enzyme deficiencies, and more. Is this normal for all of you?

How odd is my test?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
If everyone on this site has or had lyme, why would you be surprised that we all have a similar toxic load?

I think this is what sets the terrain enabling us to become so ill in the first place. Lyme is only a small part of it.

Syphillis and TB are miasms - inherited from who knows how long ago. The memory stored in DNA (not active disease in my understanding).

I suspect that like Scott, I may be looking at being finished up soon. I feel pretty normal these days. Hope it keeps up.

For a therapy/protocol/remedy that can go on up to a year - $500 and change is minuscule compared to many or most other things I've come across.

This one requires patience, patience, more patience and a big dollup of more patience. These people are working very, very hard for a small amount of money.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Nana, did you have as many blockages as me when first starting?

Sometimes what's hard to assess is I recall you're doing 10,000,000 other treatment types in addition to AI, along with others like Scott F, Alv, and others. It's so hard to isolate a cause and effect when so many variables come into play.

I agree $500 in the big picture isn't that much compared to what most of us spent to get here. However, $500 times the number of failures, ripoffs, and more is hard to digest. It's frustrating to mentally feel conned at times, especially in front of family as the sick sucker who'll buy anything.

The worst part is it's $500 for a bottle of WATER. lol. My wife would want 25 cases of water for that price bottled. Paying for water is a crazy, crazy notion. lol.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Oh yes indeed.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
You will Ping!!

Seekhelp - I did NOT do 10,000,000 other treatments - actually there's quite a short list if you would like to have it.

And would you be the one to tell someone which stones not to overturn when wanting to get well?

Pretty big job.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I'm sorry, I must be mixing you up with someone else Nana. I was just throwing out the 10 million as humor. Sorry. I can't keep it all straight. I'd love to hear what you do to get/stay well as I always carefully watch those who hit remission as I'd love to be there too.

Of course, I would never tell someone what not to do. I can only speak from my personal viewpoint. With Lyme, or any other chronic illness, one can always fear it coming back, never feel they achieved perfect health, etc.

Sometimes, I just have a hard time understanding how much people put into this stuff with respect to supplements, alternative treatments, etc. when I hear they are doing quite well and decide to try another thing anyways. I think there's a point of diminishing returns. Do you drop $10k wondering if you can get from 97% health to 98%? Know what I mean? When you're at 5-10% health, cost becomes irrelevant. You're desparate.

I look at the big picture when making decisions.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Agree with NanaDubo. It's an inexpensive treatment.

If people are not sure it is right for them, don't do it. It makes no sense to start a new therapy when you don't believe it can help. That truly is a waste of money.

As for people seeing similar results, that isn't a surprise. We are all toxic. I have seen differences in results and the # of miasms in particular seems to correlate highly to how ill the person is in the ones I have seen.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
I guess my issue is that I have tried SO many treatments and I am still as sick as I was when I started 2 years ago... SO yes, you become frustrated, untrustworthy, and tired of it all...

I am not saying that I don't think it COULD work... but just that at this point in the game I don't know what I believe in anymore or what is ever REALLY wrong with me. I go to one of the TOP LLMD's...

So I guess I have put sort of a protective wall up... But only because I have been so let down.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Ping, I'm glad you feel recovered from your 7 yrs of antibiotic treatment. I guess I misunderstood why you are interested in this AI therapy.

What are you hoping AI will do to improve your health at this point?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I understand. This disease is not easy for any of us. That said, we have two options:

1) Keep trying
2) Give up

Number 2 is not an option in my mind.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Ping, yes we are all exposed to toxins. I was just reading how toxic Washington State residents are in this recent report:

http://www.pollutioninpeople.org/results/report/toc

There is no way I could get 7 yrs of continuous antibiotics where I live and I don't have a boatload of money to come to the States where I would have no insurance. So I don't even want to get into the pathetic treatment available in Canada where they won't even accept a positive lyme test from the States.

Even if I could, there's no guarantee I would be recovered at the end of it, as some posting on lymenet have complained about has been the outcome for them.

Ping, you are fortunate if you feel you have recovered. Maybe AI can help improve your health even further, keep us posted.
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
I tried abx for about 6 months with an LLMD and I also did 6 months of the HORRID Marshall Protocol...

The 6 months on LLMD abx I had A lot of issues, constant yeast infections that would not go away with ANY measures, Organs felt weak, And a VERY close case of C-diff which I had to stop abx for 2 weeks.. It was not fun what was happening to me at THAT point but I don't want to get too graphic. I also became extremely suicidal because of the meds and lack of any sort of change or herx or improvement to show me something was happening.

At that point my LLMD's PA didn't know what to do with me.. and basically said that I needed IV but KNEW that my insurance didn't cover it and that I coudln't AFFORD it on my own. From that point I decided to stop ALL pharmacueticals and abx and started eating raw foods, juciing and taking herbs. From that I DID have some kind of imprvement... meaning I was no longer completely bedridden, I could walk myself to the bathroom and even got out of the house a couple of times.. Which I hadn;t done it 2 years.

I have started to get back to that point of being bedridden again all the time.. I am back seeing my LLMD but I STILL was NOT put on ABX because of what happened last time with my lack of respose and other problems.

I am also seeing an LLND who is trying to strenghen my body and systems and also has me on low doses of herbs.. Androgrpahis and Zhangs art... along with some nasty teas and homeopathy.

I see my LLMD in July.. It is the 1st time in a year taht I will have seen him as I ALWAYS saw the PA... He will probably want me on ABX but I don't think it is the ANSWER... not for someone who has been sick for as long as me... maybe if this was caught years ago.. I also do not think I have JUST lyme.. I think there are toxins, chemicals, mold and other issues that make my symptom picture so severe.

I intuitvely feel that ABX may not be the answer... at least not for the 3-4 years you speak of. I would do them if my Doc said... YOU NEED THEM OR ELSE... but I just dont think it is THE answer.

I have been to 3 different LLMD's... and of course as many of you may have experienced... MANY other doctors, practioners, healers, YOU NAME IT... I am SPENT!

And you are absolutely right Sfrosgren.... GIVING UP IS NOT AN OPTION.. I have two children and a Man I love dearly that has stayed by my side and sacrifced EVERYTHING to be here to take care of me... I would never give up. (even though sometimes it is hard and you want to)

Peace & Blessings to all of you, that we find the answers we are so despertaely seeking

(Sorry for spelling mistakes..)
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Like I had said in previous post I am probaly one of the sickest here doing A1 . I have been diagnosed with M.S. 17 years and years later finaly was tested for Lyme +( Im in a wheelchair most of the time, I can walk short distance poorly with a walker due to horrible balance. I am doing no other therapy although I have tried countless over the years.I have been doing the A1 for three rounds now and while no, I am not up and running yet, 20 years or so of ezxema is finaly gone and my fingernails that never in my life grew this great I all contribute to A1. So for those two things alone I think the money has been woth it. Terri
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I think the results (slow but sure) of the guys who have been on it a few months seem promising. Is it the cureall? Hopefully just a missing link.

I cou'dn't cut and paste my test results but:

But Dysfuctions (red and yelows) in everything but 2.3.

No milk allergy showing (untrue I believe), Soy, wheat, gluten, Corn, all top 3 penicillins, botom 4 mucums, Lead, copper, mercury, nickle

9.1 =6, 9.2 + 9,

B;ocks in Sacrum and cocyx - this is really where I do have pain!

Pineal, Throid, Pancreas. Shocked that my tired adrenals showed fine. Enzymes.

bottom 3 gentic toxins. No other bac or virsus.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Hobokinite, that's a mirror of my report basically. Odd. THe spinal blockages are different a bit, but they have a symptom list so they can change it accordingly hypothetically. The impossible to detect items on a symptom list are showing up identical.

Scott, the idea you have to believe in a treatment to work is simply not true if it works. Tell a person going into allergic shock they are getting an epipen injection. If they don't 'believe' in it working, will it not?

I'm not saying attitude doesn't play a big part in health and recovery, but it's the not the end all be all.

I just wants facts, stats, other people's results, progress on therapy and hard data when making decisions. We are all sick obviously, but I'd expect you have to have many less blockages/issues when you're functioning at 95% most days, able to travel, and other normal activities compared to others here bedbound w/serious neuro issues. That's just common sense.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Hard data does not exist for every possible beneficial treatment. If someone is looking for absolute proof that AI works, it probably makes more sense to look for other treatment options where this proof exists - though I am not aware of too many of those when it comes to this disease.

As for my own AI, I showed just as many issues as others. I've still got road to travel. Am at about 80% compared to where I have been. And, I've been there in bed with serious neuro issues. Fortunately, that is not currently my reality.

Years ago, I learned that there are three key parts to this illness:

1) Toxins
2) Infections
3) Emotional trauma and conflicts

I think it is only when we incorporate work on all of these areas that we can get well. A focus on any one or any two alone often disappoints.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I believe Scott's list is correct. I ahve been working on #3 for a long time now with prayer and counceling and stress reduction.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Balance in all things is key.

I agree about the three parts, and while on AI, there is no way to avoid dealing with all three.

Everything comes to the surface, literally.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Could anyone please go over their eye symptoms again. Anyone have twitching and trouble focusing on reading while on the drops? Daughter says her eyes twitch from side to side...not the eyelid twitches. This is new.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
I posted bit about my test results earlier in the thread; they are very close to Hobokinite's, eg:

Dysfunctions, exactly the same [ie all except 2.3]

Same food allergies and metals, penicillins, but one fewer mucor

9.1=6 9.2=9 [same]

Spinal blocks in 5of 6 areas [not Atlas]

Same gland dyxfunctions,ie pineal, thyroid, pancreas and enzyme too.

All 4 genetic toxins

I know it is hard not to be too suspicious of new treatments, especially when you've been losing money in lost wages and spending it like there's no tomorrow on trying to get well.

I waited a while to see what pioneering AIers reported for that reason, but I think it makes sense that we have similar results, as we share a similar illness status!

The cost of this is not prohibitive and AI have nothing to gain from sending out more and more drops, as the on-off price includes everything except postage.

I do understand too about hopes being dashed when you invest hope as well as cash in a therapy.

Yes, it's a gamble as to whether it will help, but as Scott says, if you're not getting better on your current protocol, you can only accept the status quo or try something else.

Ping, I look forward to your test results!

All the best,

Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Lymeparfait - can't speak of the eyes specifically except they have been a source of discharging for me throughout this.

I did have the twitching thing back when I was on round three but it was my lip.

It started twitching (not visibly) the first day of round 3 and continued for two days pretty much non-stop. That was the end of it.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Ping, one first remedy froze in my mail box and they said it was fine. Heat may be different, I'm not sure. Maybe a quick email to them?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I asked the same type of question about:

Heat
Length of time between taking treatment vials
xrays

And they said the water retains the energy information no matter the heat, the length of time, and the xrays and heat do not damage it.

I do think if heated too much, it would evaporate.

But they said, the information does not leave the water.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Posted by Seekhelp:

"I just wants facts, stats, other people's results, progress on therapy and hard data when making decisions. We are all sick obviously, but I'd expect you have to have many less blockages/issues when you're functioning at 95% most days, able to travel, and other normal activities compared to others here bedbound w/serious neuro issues. That's just common sense."

No, it is not just common sense. A friend of mine, fully functional like many people you see walking around when people watching, a little leg swing here, bad dull hair, acne blooming, overweight, old and fat, all these people already have a manifestation of things not right. You don't have to be in bed. I was hardly ever in bed because I had enormous will power to stay afloat. My friend came up with more than 30 dysfunctions
(red x's and red numbers - not the graph charts) From all appearances, there is not a thing wrong with her.

It may surprise you that I have not had active Lyme Disease in over five years until I made the one stupid mistake - i.e. put the Bionic to my body setting off an avalanche of problems that nearly drove me out of my mind. Yet amazingly, I still came up with 25 errors on the first AI test. I expected that I would have a few dysregulations, but 25 --- never.

My husband who is since Bionic treatment unable to walk, while he was able to before the Bionic, and does not have Lyme any longer and was always borderline Lyme and questionable, still showed 33 errors on the first AI test. He never had any problems except movement disorders. No pain - can't move.

Many many further dysregulations are still found every time we test, following these first tests: They are identified as chemicals and similar substances. But the major findings are the blockages, the errors in the nervous system, the emotional blockades, and most of all the damage caused silently by the wheat to the overall system, the damage caused to the Autonomic Nervous System (ANS), synapses and all the different systems broken down that you find listed from 7 to 14.

A major impact is from the inherited toxins/miasms on 14.1 and from the inherited psychoenergetic conflicts. And of major importance 9.1, the Unresolved conflicts of present life. My husband had 3 of the miasms - I had none. I also had no food allergies.


I know that miasms under 14.1 are red flags that they find in the most serious diseases (not Lyme). It's wise to no longer have to deal with them. These are already recognized in the DNA right after birth, even before actual diseases manifest themselves.

Our son, who is on bottle #4 now, just dropped by and told us that this one is hitting him hard. So, thank God, it's working. I am just holding my breath to get all children, their wives and grandchildren on this.. Every grandchild has one or more allergies already. A hidden allergy can turn into a disaster in few years.


As I suggested a few weeks ago, it might help people to get a better understanding that this is not a scam and that it does work if you order the study which they published. It is a study on approx. 200 people that goes back to 2005 showing the results broken down by problem, male, female. Since it has very little English text on it, you can easily understand it by just looking up a few words in a dictionary.

I just would like to tell you that with the pharma at the watch, anybody making false propaganda as some of you suggest, people doing this would have one foot in jail. They very clearly explain who they are and what they do. They also recommend that a practitioner should be consulted. I would post the one study I have here, but it does not copy as clearly as the original they can send you by e-mail. I posted pieces of it a week or so ago.

If you cannot trust AI - please do not go into it. There are many moments where not much is happening and where you wonder - what now?; but there are many moments, all too many for us, where I absolutely understand that many changes are taking place.

The problem arises with the fact that the errors in the system, as they call it, are found in different layers. If all the errors were to appear at once in the same layer, most likely the body would not be in a position to respond to them and to compensate for them. That means then - they have to work through layer after layer which makes for the different bottles with new information.

At the moment they are working on my husband's balance problems - he falls out of the chair and cannot adjust himself --. While they are adjusting that error, another one that had been corrected now has gone worse and one feels everything is getting worse. It is literally section after section, bit by bit they have to work through, and it is up to the client to learn enough about the system to understand how and why and then to stick with it until nothing to correct can be found any longer. Of course, a dead body part is a dead body part. I am not expecting that in an 83 year old man everything can be fixed. As long as the basics are good, we are doing drops until they now longer find anything. Even a 3/4 life is better than that none. We still try to enjoy the day, the grandkids, the daily events and are thankful that we still have each other. We have not a thing to loose. With the changes that have already happened to me and my husband, cost is negligible.

At that point, when they no longer can find any errors in the system, the body should be fully regulating and can then start to take care of the backlog. The immune system can step in and finally direct the concert again -- something it was not able to do with an energetic base, DNA, messed up and gone haywire. Then all values shown on the first test should start to improve further and further. I am sure it will take time.

Looking at my own regulation pathways, they find an enormous chaos, because the system often went zig zag wrong direction when it had no other choice. I had 12 root canals that were constantly contaminating my body.

AI are not against taking medication when necessary. But If medicines are being taken all the time, the body is likely to continue running into the same errors, the same tracks, suggesting that everything is in order to make more of the same errors --often the ones that brought about the dysregulations in the first place. The system is being derailed - again and again.

If this note sounds disjointed, please note that I read and type here and there while doing a thousand other things in between. So please take it as is.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I was the one that had a "no", response for awhile, when wanting to begin.

The testing I used was ART with a ND. It is your own body energy that communicates. It is within and also as explained to me, in the energy field, light, outside your body. Where your long term memory is also believed to be stored.

It depends on how your phrase the questions.
The therapy was always a "yes" when asked if it was good for my body. It could have meant that water was good for my body...it is a general statement.

You have to get good at phrasing the statements to get at the root of what you are searching for. And your regulation needs to be open to get the best response. Many on lymenet have helped me learn about this. I am still beginning.

I suggest you spend time on learning about this before beginning the drops. It will give you confidence in your intuition when you understand this and your body better energetically.

The "no" answer was when stating the AI therapy is beneficial for my body today. That my body would benefit in regulation with the therapy. I waited until I received the yes.Usually I go full steam ahead...but I waited.

There is always a reason for the no. It may even be an emotional reason. This is something for you to investigate. It was new to me, but amazing.

My ND had a strong intuitive feeling that I was harboring anger against someone. This was the day I had my no response as well. She left the room, and said to think about who this was and we will release it...

Well, after a minute, not feeling anger with anyone, I realized, I was actually angry at lyme disease and the whole nightmare it created in my life, and feeling like my life has been taken away. That my husband has lost his wife, and my kids have lost their happy and active mom. I was angry! But never verbalized it or realized it until that moment.

I was also trying to find the cure...the answer...and not stopping to enjoy anything until I had saved my family and myself from the terror of this disease. I was spending way too much time researching online. I was over the top.

This was an overwhelming emotional response and experience. She helped me release this anger, and my healing started to escalate at that time. I let it go. I have worked on other spiritual and emotional things since then, and have been healing physically with that release.

The AI therapy has even brought more of this out. And now I am more relazed, bu just dong this one therapy. (And not obsessively being on line.)

There were other things that were a yes on that day for me. Specifically chorella, and taking the KPU test. For me, at that time, I had just taken out my amalgam fillings, and my body was adjusting, along with moving out candida.

The KPU test proved I had kryptopyorria, and we began therapy. Since then I have gone off that therapy, (another whole story), but am doing the AI alone, until complete before beginning the KPU therapy, if needed after the AI.

It appears the my KPU may be cleared with the AI. That is to be seen. But I feel like my detox pathways are opening.

I also now have a biotenser that confirms for me what is right at any given time. It all is about how to phrase the statements. I rephrase my statements many times to make sure I get the correct yes or no. When I am lazy and only ask one way, I may get the wrong direction.

This takes practice. For important new tretments, I will always get tested with ART by a ND to confirm.

I use the biotenser for general things related to doses, and timing and extra needs.

I also test how many drops each of the three times of day. Also test when to take my next dose.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Ping,
Look for a pm...

Just ordered AI therapy for my other child without lyme symptoms...as I want both my kids to clear disregulations before they have a chance to pass them onto their unborn children...

That's how much I think this is working.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
I mailed AI this morning re hot weather/drops.
They wrote back --

Hallo Frau Gilberg,

ich glaube nicht, dass die Hitze einen Einflu� hat. Im letzten Jahr hatten wir viele Fl�schchen nach Italien, Ungarn, Jugoslavien und und und gesandt, wo es auch extrem hei� war. Niemand hat etwas beanstandet. Die Wirkung war auch vorhanden.

Gru�

Translated - this says, that they do not believe heat has an influence. Last year, they mailed many bottles to Italy, Hungary, Jugoslavia and and and, where it was also extremely hot. Nobody complained and the drops were effective.

Just a question: How can they savely deliver anything (besides paper) if they do not have some way of cooling systems in their vehicles?

You guys seem to worry way toooooo much. Relax and enjoy your day ---
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Just a few thoughts:

"GiGi advised that it would be best to have amalgam removal after A.I."

I am sure that is not the only thing I said, and anyone looking at this sentence only, will misinterpret my comments on amalgams. Certainly I would not do the removal now, if I thought I needed to remove them to get better.

Some people are of the opinion that when the regulation is again up and running and the body recognizes all toxins, including toxic heavy metals, one may not need to remove amalgams. I do not know and I certainly do not want to make a blanket statement about AI and amalgam.

Dr. W. told me, also in writing, more than once, "biophotons take the metals out" . Heck no, they don't, not if the body does not recognize mercury as a toxin or others having a toxic effect. This belief and trust is what got my husband into worse troubles - we moved more metals into the sensitive places/CNS and he rapidly deteriorated to the point where he could no longer walk. Period.

One should not attempt to detox unless sure the immune system is not dysfunctional and can take on the task. In my opinion, many herxheimers during abx is nothing but shaking the toxic tree and trying to find a new spot to deposit the stuff. I am sure that's why symptoms continue and continue - neurotoxin symptoms in my mind cannot cannot be differentiated - to me they felt the same no matter what we were dislodging or whether we were killing this or that infection. After all, they are all hanging out in the same terrain.

I would not at this point attempt to move or kill any neurotoxins until we clear all errors. At that point, it is my belief that we will have an able body that can deal with the toxins much more readily. It took me a while to learn from Dr. K. that it is not the bugs that cause us the problems, but the dead debris and the neurotoxins they leave in the body. There are thousands of them.......

This is how I feel --- all of you may feel differently.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I got my drops today. Did everyone stop every single supplement?
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I know this has been asked and answered in previous opists but I can't find it.

How do I open the bottle? Do I cut the top off like superglue or stick a pin in it?

Do I put the drops in water or right in my mouth.

With or away from food?

Will start in the morning I hope.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Hobo, hope this helps:

Nutmeg wrote:

Someone wrote a while back that they couldn't get the drops out of the bottle. You have to pierce the top of the spout (underneath the white cover) with a needle or pin.

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Most said they were taking the drops directly into the mouth -- 5 drops 3x a day. Someone added drops to a little water.
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You take homeopathics away from food, I'm thinking that would apply to this as well, but don't know for sure.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Thanks, Nutmeg.

Just took them. They kind of taste weird. Is there a weird preservative?

Wouldn't it be fun to be allergic to the AI drops?
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Yup, having a real histimine reaction to the drops. YARGGGGG
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
the tip of the bottle can be cut off with a sharp knife or razorblade - just about 1-2 mm or 1/16 ".
I put the 5 drops in a small tiny glass and put a teeny bit of water in it - a teaspoon full is plenty. Then drink it. I am afraid to put them directly in the mouth - because more is definitely not better. You do not have to do the absorbing bit as with a homeopathic - it is not a homeopathic. It has no relation whatsoever to homeopathy - so I was recently told. A young man drank out the whole bottle one time and he slept the whole day! Sometimes if the reactions are too strong, nothing wrong with taking less. Like whispering the information to the body! Our times vary - sometimes before eating, somtimes in between. Sometimes after. If I took them too late before going to bed on the first couple of bottles, they would keep me awake. Just sort of an even distribution 3 times during the day. I never tasted anything but water.

That's the best part about it - what is easier to take than 5 drops of water?

We bless the drops as we take them. It's our ritual.

Hobo, the drops are totally fitted to your body, specifically. So I don't think they would send you anything you are allergic to. Let us know how you feel after a couple days. I definitely mark the bottles clearly, because my husband's definitely do not test energetically on me.

Enjoy the drops. They will work for you.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I must be a klutz or paranoid or both. I opened the tip witha pin. Pin was new in a package that I must have had for a whie. Then I notioced the pin looked dirty or discolored so I'm worrying that I ruined the batch.

Someone send for the straightjacket.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
If you think you've been silly, Hobok.....I actually cut the tip off the protective cap this morning!

It's going to take a while for my heart symptoms and thyroid imbalance to improve, so I decided to try starting the drops, on the basis that I could stop if they made things worse......so far I'm doing a lot of swallowing.

So you and I are starting on the same day, Hobok!
Good luck!


Carry
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just ended round 3...

Welcome to the AI club, Hobo and ukc...looking forward to your posts as you progress.

lp
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Ping,
Wishing you much success as well...
my msg. box is now empty if you still have questions.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
I started the drops Friday and woke Saturday with candida white tongue; same again this am.

I dragged out the sesame oil and did some oil pulling both mornings.

Have continued with probiotics and Candida Yeast Management, so it's not that I've stopped those; have also come off amoxicillin.

I'm wondering if this could be metal-related already.

Did other people get this?


Carry
PS How are you doing, Hobokinite?
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
What I thoughtw as an allergy seems to have lessened.

No idea if it is the heat/weather or the AI, but I am having tons of joint and muscke pain since starting it.

Blessing the drops and anything you put in your mouth seems a good idea.


Perhaps praying and commanding healing to all of our bodiues 3X a day is too. Says the guy who just overslept and missed chruch today.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Gigi,

Any diea if AI has helped people with EI sesnativites or even EMF sensativities?

Thanks and blessings,

Michael
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo, what's EI!

There is hardly a chronically ill person today who does not have an EMF problem. I think the number is zero. I was at a Klinghardt seminar yesterday, and it is again and again the same story - toxins including EMF's starting with children to the oldies. The metal content in our body combined with the chemicals is simply too high in everybody with a chronic disease. If you add the infections into the equation, we don't need to wonder why we are sick.

AI addresses everything connected with chronic disease and is helping. Some may need more work later, some may not. It depends on the individual make-up. There is nobody on this board who does not have a half dozen other problems besides a Lyme infection.

We need to learn to relax and flow with this therapy. Foremost - because everything starts with the first thought. Good or bad biochemical reactions become second. And some may need 1-2 years, and some are great in a few months. Lifestyle and thought play a big if not only role.
That is my take on it.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Carry,

I had the candida white tongue, and major candida on my gums...like cottage cheese stuck there.

Had to use a water pic power washing device to remove it.

don't know if it was the AI, as it happened at the time I started the AI, but had also just removed a metal amalgam, and had been detoxing for that purpose...so it's hard to tell.

Also, Hobo...I have had a major pain behind my right knee, at the beginning of round 3, chemicals. Never had a knee problem in that knee before, but had only one in my left knee for years. It was extremely painful for the two weeks of round 3.

I recently added a natural anti-inflamitory, Curcumen "enhanca"...and it helped the pain ease up in one day. Sprinkled it on my food two times a day, and after two days, the pain is gone, but still have swelling behind the knee.

Again, I don't know if it is AI related, but so glad others are sharing their symptoms so we can all compare. I am hoping it is AI, and things are just regulating...not escalating!

lp
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Gigiu, EI means enviornemntal illness - super senative to chemicals, smells, etc.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Gigi, Did DK talk about KPU Pyrrolia ? If so can you share please. Thanks Joyce
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
He will be speaking on it next week at LIA on Sunday morning.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Thanks Scott, Wish I could be there. Please share if anything new. There seems to be a lot more about AI and KPU. I guess we are the pioneers again. Take care Joyce
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
I got my third round of AI drops and printed report and started the drops today.

The report said I have 10 chemicals and 3 food-related reactions that they were not able to identify to any greater detail.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Funny how no one showed chemcials at first. Perhaps it only shows the bigest culprits first and when they are gone, teh depper ones.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Pardon my spelling -- I have Lyme. Last sentance should have been THE DEEPER ONES.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Ping, your note is confusing. How can they send you the therapy without a saliva sample? The therapy is based on the sample.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
That doesn't sound right to me and was not how mine was done. Hmm.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
You can order the test only, without any drops, just so you know where you stand re allergies for (normally) 90 Euro. There are short stretches of time where they do that service (first testing only) for 75 Euro. I checked their website right now and today the test only costs 75 Euro. Apparently they have a "sale" right now.

I think the total,if you decide to do the whole therapy program with as many bottles as you will need, is still 390 Euro, but the 75 Euro for the test only is then deducted. So if you decide to do the drops, you would still owe the difference, i.e. 315 Euro (315 plus 75 = 390 Euro).

If you do the first test only, you do not receive any drops. But you can then decide depending on the results of the first test whether you want to do the therapy or not. At that point, you owe them the total sum of 390 Euro minus what you already paid to get the first testing done.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Yes, you are incorrect, Ping.

It works exactly as I described it today above.

Send them 90 or 75 Euro (today it is 75) and you get the test results only, but no drops. The first test gives you an idea of the first dysregulations you have and you can at that point decide whether you want to do the whole therapy by paying the difference to 390 Euro.

As they go through the other layers, usually more will be found in subsequent tests.

If you send them 390 Euro now, you will get the first test results plus the drops for the first round, and in effect have paid off all the rounds that you will need thereafter.

If you need 20 rounds to clear dysregulations, it costs the same (390 Euro) as it would if you need only 3 or 5 rounds to clear all dysregulations.

Take care.

P.S. They have been in business for some 20 years (senior started the business in the eighties), and junior doing it for ten years; so the chances that you will not be well served do not exist.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Remember, Ping, if you paid for the test only, you will not get any drops.

If you decide when you receive your first test results, to do the therapy, you will have to wait about 12 more days to get the first drops, after they have received the balance of the money.


P.S. I promised them I would be a translator where I could when they asked me. Without commission, yes. Exchange of goodwill.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
while on AI drops,

does anyone have a weight gain problem ?

do u have to detox ?

do u need to take supplements like magnesium?

do u need to do non-salt/c ?

does anyone ever tried dr. bernard Jensen internal cleanse kit?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
It's not a good idea to do too many other things while on AI. Make sure you eliminate, eat lots of fiber, and if you need magnesium for muscle cramps, etc., you need it. Lots of different consistency liquids. I tried to describe it in an earlier post. Soups, mousses, juices with nutrients.

I would definitely not do a cleanse even in the interim periods, because the body is very, very active setting new regulation cycles and it takes a lot of the energy the body has to deliver. I don't think we gain anything by making this into a marathon -- the body does what it does in its own time and when it is ready. Simply because we don't take the drops for a couple of weeks, does not mean the body is not continuing adjusting regulations. It is and is very demanding and we have to supply the strength, which is not possible if it has to perform several tasks at the same time. It causes stress and nothing will work well at that point. And we are more and more exhausted.

It is much more beneficial to go out and smell the roses - sing, play, read.....

This similar message has been given to me by AI over and over during the months we have been doing the therapy.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, for many years I have been crushing a fresh (unpeeled) apple (in a blender, adding a little water or any juice) as part of our breakfast. Into this I add pectin.

I also use pectin often when I want to make a fresh fruit desert - adding pectin and letting it sit for a while makes it into a puddinglike substance, with a dollop of whipping cream on top, for a healthy desert. Makes any meal a celebration!

Lots of fiber of any kind and making sure to have good elimination will move the unwanteds out.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Gigi, how do you call 'apple pectin' in German?

And what is 'Lamblien'? I keep listening about this parasite. Is it merely intestinal giardia, the protozoan?

Thanks!
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
How is everyone doing?
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Horrid. This is the worst allergic time for me. The past 3 years, the summer means Dysutononia problems that makes sleeping and resting impossible. I wish I started this sooner. Hope it saves my adrenals.

Over 1 week into first bottle.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Sorry to hear that, Hobok.

Because I'm still in a very bad way related to my thyroid imbalance and heart symptoms, it is hard to judge whether anything else is going on!

Still seem to be more prone to candida white tongue, but then I have started a different probiotic, so that may not be AI-related.

I haven't noticed any dreams etc.

Lymeparfait, has your other child started on the drops yet?


Carry
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Still hanging in there.

Round 4 was the roughest for me so far but toward the end and the two weeks in between, I felt absolutely amazing.

Just toward the end of #4 I was clearing a corner of my yard and got into poison ivy up to my elbows.

This was not the usual case of P I for me. It looked the same but it felt like something I can only imagine a chemical burn would feel like.

My friend "Clancy" came up with a theory that the previous years of smearing cortaid cream on it, suppressed it and now maybe all of it (including all the cortaid) was coming out.

Maybe it was an escape route for some other chemicals too. Makes sense to me.

A few days into round #5 and it completely dried up and the inch deep pain I was feeling in my arms went away too.

I feel very tired with round 5, the same as I felt with the very first round.

All for now.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

I just receieved my 4th round of drops from Allergie-Immun. A few chemicals and 3 energetic blockages this time.

I'll probably start them tomorrow!

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
How are you feeling, Cass A?
Good luck with your 4th round,

Carry
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
ukc...have not started my other child on drops yet.
Will start this August, as he's away at camp.

It will be interesting to compare those with and without lyme type symptoms on the AI.

[ 06-30-2009, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: lymeparfait ]
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
nana...

I just remembered that I too had used the cortaid type steroid cream on my arms and right elbow...probbly over 20 years ago when I had unusual breakouts on my forearm and right elbow.

Part of the pain and weakness I now feel is in those exact places. It is an interesting connection.

lp
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I know people talked about vivid dreams, but I've always had vivid dreams.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I recall the first round was a release of emotions for us. Maybe the vivid dreams fall into this category as some say dreams are realted to healing during sleep.

All I know is that both my daughter and I had discovered areas where we needed emotional healing in varius ways. We are not emotional in general, so this was noticeable for both, during the first two rounds.

We experienced a freedom. Also tested lyme free during this time.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Could someone inform me the approximate cost of shipping to get the drops each time? I'm assuming you live in the U.S.

Also, why does the paperwork say up to 3 rounds when Scott F and others are on round 7, 8, or gosh knows what?
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Seekhelp, AI asks for $10 for postage for each round. The paperwork says to send postage stamps or a check to cover postage, but that would be for people in Germany. Most US folks here seem to send the postage funds via PayPal.

The paperwork is outdated for the number of rounds covered by the initial cost of the testing and drops. Apparently it is now unlimited.

Maybe it was taking longer than the AI people thought it would to resolve all the blockages and errors, or maybe AI is refining their methods and are able to do more.

Hope this helps,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
The text on their website is not updated that often for this type of thing, while they add some great science articles and other publications regularly. They are posting some fascinating things -- you will need to google translate. They have been doing this work for many, many years and I am sure it took less treatments ten years ago.

The European people are, as I was told, not as toxic, less vaccinations, less medications, and certainly not years of abx, and therefore it is rare that people need as many rounds as we do. I can hear his skin crawl when I tell him about people on abx for years......

I recently asked AI about a certain MS patient they treated who was totally wheelchaired when she started the program, and it took about twenty rounds for her. She was last seen taking off on her bicycle. Oh, she also danced at the family wedding! I like to hear that story -- there is hope for many.

Three rounds barely get rid of the debris - then starts the repairing and rebuilding. So they tell me.

Per Dr. K. -- Ten years ago 1 in 25 suffered cancer; today it is 1 in 4. We have got to get rid of that stuff and I am glad I discovered AI to do it with. It beats everything else we have done over the years --- what is easier to take than five drops of water?

Hope everybody is building new regulations and finally detoxing. We are - we test almost daily for a greater number of support/binding products. It started very gently, but now more and larger quantities show up.

Take care.

[ 07-03-2009, 03:49 AM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I am finally doing better with my edema. I upped my intake of fluids, added selectrolytes to Pellegrino MIneral water. I always drink loads of filtered water with lemon, but it was not enough. Using my biotenser for help with quantity now.

Then tested for Pekana products. At first I received a no. As my hydration improved, I tested yes to the lymph remedy. My body immediately started to release the extra fluid.

Then I tested for the liver, and a few days later tested positive for all three, lymph, liver and kidney.

Thanks Nana and others for your recommendations.

Another odd symptom to report.

I have had a very deep painful feeling in my forearm, and in the tendons around my elbow. This started during round 3 and continued until I started the Pekana Remedies.

Again , I am never quite sure if any of my symptoms are related to AI clearing things, but am noticing everything, so I will report so others can share any similar findings.

I am wondering if it is related to cortosteroids, like you nana with the poison ivey, I had used many years ago for excema and rashes in that exact area? The pain is almost gone today!

Otherwise, I am feeling great as well as my daughter. Still waiting our round 4 to arrive.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
What products for support are others using if any?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Starting Round 7 tomorrow. More chemicals and energetic blockages...
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
It'll never end Scott...round 595. lol. Good luck.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Just came back from driving as the sun was setting. Lights and traffic normally do not bother me. But today, while on the drops, I realized that things were a-changing in my body, things are going on that are difficult to explain, perception is different and reaction is different. It may just be temporary. But please be careful when driving - while the system is starting to regulate in a different way.

This is not quite the first time I noticed that, but we are also in the process of correcting nerve and synapse damages, while chemicals and emotional blockages are also still included. We are ending bottle #7. AI does not really give all the finer details, because it is too difficult to explain and and at least for me to understand. There is a reason why they are asking to give them an idea what has improved, what remains the same, and what has not changed. They are going through many different lists of possibilities for errors and are intent on finding all of them.

We made it home fine - but felt like telling all of you to be careful when moving about.I am sure it is going to be different for everyone. But my good friend who never had an accident in many years, had one on the second bottle, and still cannot explain why.

Take care.
 

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Posted by kidsatlast (Member # 4308) on :
 
Hello Everyone,
I just want to weigh in with my experience with AI. I am finishing my first round of drops tomorrow. My testing showed heavy metal issues, which I already knew about, but no infections. (I had my amalgams removed in 2004 and root canal teeth exptracted in 2006) I feel good physically. The main effects of the drops have been emotional. Since starting the drops I have been feeling very assertive and wanting to speak my truth to members of my extended family who have been oppressive and critical toward me over a period of many years. I have been wanting to fight, fight, fight for justice for myself. To do this makes me feel whole again.

The other major change I note is that the drops give me a lot of energy and I cannot take any after perhaps 2 PM each day or I feel I will be unable to fall asleep at night.

The third effect of the drops is that I have vivid dreams each night almost like watching and hearing and participating in a movie version of some element of my past life, where I am working through some events again, mainly asserting myself where I have been wronged and standing up for myself to be treated fairly.

I would be interested in any ideas or feedback. I think I am on the right track, but I don't know what lies ahead. What do you all think?
 

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Posted by kidsatlast (Member # 4308) on :
 
Hi Ping,

On this first round I have taken 5 drops twice a day at 9 AM and 2 PM. Everyone is different though, so I hope that you can find what works best for you.

kidsatlast
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Dreaming is definitely a way of releasing toxins from all levels.

I also could not take the drops just before bedtime at first - they would keep me awake. Now I can. We do not have a specific schedule, just fitting in three times 5 a day, with fair pauses in between, unless reactions too strong when we would go to 3x3 or so. That happened more with the early bottles. Usually it's around breakfast, lunch and dinner.

If things get uncomfortable, do less. If you can't test with tensor or otherwise, hold the bottle in your hand, and take the number from 0-5 that comes first to mind. In other words, we usually know what's good for us.

We are waiting for #8 bottle.

I can say that my eyesight is as crystal-clear as I have not had it in many years! With the early bottles, there were many fluctuations - sometimes better, sometimes worse. It is an indication that there is a lot of detox now happening with my eyes. My whole disease process started with the eye closing up and bell's palsy. Even though I have been free of infection for many years, facial nerves and muscles had not ever gone back to totally "normal". This is now changing with the drops and started with the second bottle. It shows that materials we are allergic to or were allergic to are now being picked up by the immune system.

I test for binders and organ support and literally all the substances in that basket now test for both of us, my husband as well. I constantly test for glycine, so that I now bought it in powder/pound form. It's almost tasteless, but definitely something that is in great demand by my body. Glycine is very important for chemical removal and I love chicken skin which contains glycine.

I may pay more attention to protein digestion.
Maybe that is one reason as we get older that we cannot readily dispose of toxins as well.

Recently found a gentian concoction in a chinese herbal place -- sure you have seen the little black balls that role around all over the place --and I am really happy with it. A good liver etc. support. After all, now that the stuff starts flowing, our important organs can probably stand a little extra support. Both - Gentiana (http://www.1stchineseherbs.com/Gentiana_Clear_the_Liver_pills.html)work well and test frequently for my husband also. At a chinese market $1.99 for 200 of the little black rolling balls!

I really think it pays to learn how to test oneself. I certainly wouldn't know whether I am coming or going without it. At least when I test strongly for a metal binder, I know that is what is on the move in my body. I would encourage everyone to learn a form of testing so as not to completely move in the blind.

One thing's for certain - the older - the more rounds --- at least for us.

Hope all of you are feeling good and are in good spirits.

Take care.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
Chlorella, zeolites, Pectasol, Charcoal, etc. All the same things that have been discussed. In my experience with AI, these other binding agents are often needed to help shuttle out released toxins from the body.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
kidsatlast...my teenagar had the same dream and emotions experiences as you in first two rounds.

It has helped with her emotional healing.

You are on the right path.

I find new experiences with each round.

all have been worth the therapy!

Although now we are awaiting deliver of round 4, my once beautiful nails from the therapy have now reverted back to very bad...

i know the AI had helped them, but now I am concerned again, as I posted the AI team that they are now good, I may not get more therapy for them again...until the next round.

Proves that it may take more rounds fighting the same toxins to be rid of it all. The improve ment originally lasted about 3 weeks wit the connective tissue. Now for no reason is a decline in my fingernai integrity.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Lymeparit, what you say about your nails is also happening to me, I am also waiting for round four and my butiful nails are stating to break ! Im frantikly checking the mail each day.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Kisis...this is funny, to both have our nails beautiful and now wasting away! It is surely the AI, clearing more and more things...

Let's continue to share notes!

Ping...can't believe you are leaving , as we have only just begun to know you! Good luck.

lp
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
It may be helpful to google translate some of the articles on the AI website. The information is really outstanding and it is much easier to then follow the treatment, why the changes, sometimes worse, a lot worse, and sometimes better and then changing again. Some of the comments in the Forum and the explanations by the AI Team tell a lot also.

We are doing well while waiting for #8.

A few days ago, I had sent in some fiber of an old oriental rug which my husband remembers as a child that was once sprayed (20 years ago) with some insecticide and I remember my husband walking through it barefoot while still damp!!!!!!!! The thought always haunted me. They now found we are both reacting to it at DNA. The correction has now been included in our next drops. We had removed the rug many years ago, cutting it up for the dump, but kept one little piece as a memorabilia my husband grew up with. Somehow I always had the idea that I must do something about that. No other tests had ever revealed that.

Mr. G. told me that several years ago he was working with a boy who "blossomed like raw meat". After a long search they found that some paneling in his home was the cause.
He included the information in the drops and the boy got well very quickly. They did not remove the material from the home. The body was now able to deal with the material at the electromagnetic level. That is all it took. The limit of toxin each individual can tolerate differs with each individual person.

Thank God the carpet is long gone - but obviously it had left a mark that our body was still dealing with the toxin to this day. I was never able to find or remember what we used as spray and could never find a duplicate. We had been detoxing pesticides and insecticides on and off, but obviously were never able to shake it.

I had asked Mr. G. several times about certain items and he always responds - just send me a sample to test. If it's a pill you must take, send it. If it is something in your surrounding, send him a trace of it. Just swipe over if with a damp kleenex and send it. He can test it.

Maybe you have something like that that you suspect? All they need is a fiber or a swipe or a drop on a kleenex. I took one of these shavers I use on sweaters - just enough like a pinch of salt.

I am still playing Sherlock around the house to see if there is something else to add to this. I am thinking of taking a look at insulation and some wallpaper.

Happy travel, Ping - and hope all are doing well on the drops.

Take care.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Gigi,

Do you include that with your saliva sample or seprately? As they don't speak English so well, I don't know how to do let them know.

I would like to include dust and a carpet fiber from the house I moved into 1.5 years ago.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo, Yes, I put the sample in with the same mailing envelope. But into an extra snack baggie, labeled with name and what it is.
Every item I include is in a separate baggie from the saliva sample.

You just need a tiny pinch or sample of
the item you want them to check. Then, if you react to it in a negative way, they will include that "information" with the drop holding the rest of the information.

This is only warranted if it is really something special that you have a sense it plagues you.
My gut feeling for this insecticide has always been that my husband absorbed it through the feet.
That he and I both react to it 20 years later tells enough.

Little do we pay attention to the fact that we absorb stuff through the skin more readily especially when it concerns neurotoxins. It is a shortcut to the Central Nervous System bypassing the stomach. It gets there instantly.

New carpets unless they are of the friendly kind are horrible. Children crawl on them and we walk barefoot on them. I know at least two people who had worked in carpet mills who developed and died of cancer at a very young age.

I sent my husband once to the hospital by rubbing in too much cilantro tincture into his skin. I am talking a few drops, not a teaspoon full. It immediately caused him a high fever and overwhelmed his organism.

So it pays to be careful with cremes and shampoos and anything that is applied straight to the skin. The toxins head straight for the CNS.

Hope they find all that bothers you, Hobo, so that your body will start to recognize and deal with it.

Take care.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
The hosue and carpet aren't that new - 7 - 8 years old. But, I know exactly waht ya mean.

Just hope this AI works for all of us.

Waiting for round 2.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Hobok, did you send off your next saliva sample straight after finishing Round 1 or have you left 2 weeks?

I was going to send my sample off at the end of the 2 week gap, but should I not have waited?


Carry
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Everyone, Received my drops yesterday.I am quite in-tune with my body. It was interesting feeling different sensations in my body.Some pain here and there,my eyes felt weird and swollen. I got sooo sleepy so thought I would not have a problem sleeping like others said they had. Wrong! Its 6 am and I have been up all night.So on a new adventure. I am hopeful this along with other things I am doing will help to heal me. Time will tell. Bio-tensor said to keep doing KPU and anything else I am doing.So here I go. Healing Blessings Joyce

[ 07-16-2009, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Healing in Santa Cruz ]
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Ukcarry, I sent a day or two after. I read conflicting reports here, but most seemed to have sent right away.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thanks, Hobok, I'll maybe send the sample off on Monday.

Good luck with round 2,

Carry
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
I had quite an interesting experience this morn.I still have not slept but did lay down to rest. As I was laying there,I felt like I was dreaming,but I was awake with eyes shut.It was like guided visualizations which looks like dreaming but I usually put i what I want to see. Well when my Mom passed away in 78 I was at work and received a call that she had passed and was a Kaiser. She had lung cancer. In this day dreaming or what ever it was The nurse told me where she was and I went to the room and fell apart emotionally. The nurse had asked me to take her ring off. I tried to but it was too tight. What was strange,I had no emotions come up with this. I just watched it.Pretty intense. Anyone else have this kind of day like dream? I know it was AI. Joyce
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Its memories coming up and peeling the layers.Not a mushroom ride.And not funny. Joyce
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Joyce, I'm sorry. I wasn't meaning to make fun of your particular situation at all or anyone's. I surely wasn't saying you're on anything else either. I was just trying to be humorous as it's so tough to believe 15 drops of water can have this impact.

Obviously it does as many reported what you did. I'm strongly considering them too so perhaps I'll be there too soon.

Good luck with your treatment.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Seekhelp, I accept your apology. And before you might write to another person like you did me,that talked about her Mother dying and the experience she just relived that was intense, please think before you do,how it could hurt someone who is going through hell.Another thing AI and KPU treatment is doing is helping me stand up to people in the last 2 days.Thanks for letting me see that I am healing. Yahooo! Joyce
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I will think. Again, I am sorry Joyce. It was very out of context. Thanks for waking me up. Soemtimes one hits send way too fast and forgets the details of the post. I was thinking in general about the effects of these drops and emotional/past breakthroughs.

On a better note, I'm glad you're healing. I hope it continues.

I bet these drops would do a real whirlwind on me. They almost scare me reliving stuff. It also intrigues me. It's almost surreal to believe water is doing this to so many. I guess there's a lot in the world 'black & white' people like me have problems grasping.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hi everyone, AI changed the rules for us here because the mail takes so long to get there and get back. So if you send your saliva sample with your note re what's improved, what is still the same, and what has gotten worse --- if you send that off the day after you finish the drops, say on day 15, then by the time it gets overthere, they do the testing and send it back to you - about 22-24 days will pass. If you wait too long after finishing the bottle you have, there would be a longer break. And I don't think that is desirable.

If in the UK, Carry, you probably get your mail to Germany quickly and you can calculate accordingly. It probably takes about half the time as it does from here.

I wrote him yesterday asking whether if the break is too long the system goes back into the old track, but I have not heard back yet. Will let you know when I do.

Hobo, the insecticides we sprayed and were still reacting to was almost twenty years ago. The rug has been gone from our house at least 15 years. That is how long toxin remains a toxin.

As Mr. G. told me the other day he feels that allowable amounts used in any products in the US is considerable higher than what they allow in Europe. He has a lot less trouble "cracking" the problems in Germans than he finds he has with Americans.

I am convinced that much of it is due to EMF exposure which is enormously high in this country. Building materials are much different in Europe as is the insulation of the wiring, etc.
I have heard this over and over again during several seminars (lasting 3 days) talking about nothing but that subject with experts from all over.

If you add to this the number of vaccines given at a very early age and then adding pharma drugs and contaminated supplements or allergy causing supplements --- all I can say is - we need to be careful.

We are definitely not doing KPU/HPU even though ingredients test. The protocol is also being adjusted as more is learned. I am keeping close track of it, because I am very familiar with how Dr. K. operates. Trial and trial and trial until he arrives at the best, and then we start trial anew.

Anything we take now for which the body is not equipped will end up in the burden stash as much of what we swallowed before. AI is making that very clear to me everytime I come with another question -- should I do this or should I do that.
No, the body is building new pathways and regulations and is very busy doing that.

If I wanted to insist on taking some stuff while doing PSP-AI, I send it over and ask them to test it when they are preparing new drops.

The corrections often work together, in other words, if you have a certain problem with a certain chemical, it may still affect a certain food stuff or other substances. Allergic reactions have long fingers. I believe in doing what they suggest; after all, they have done it over ten years and ten years by the founder before that and I think they know what they are talking about. I know how desperate some people are to try doing it all at once, but I do not believe it works that way. Our body works in a dynamic way, i.e. one thing affects another and another again.

Just some of my thoughts.


Joyce, I have very similar experiences as far as the emotional releases are concerned, only mine remind me that I lived through a horrible war as part of my life. It is nice to surface and clear some of these unresolved burdens. Just let it happen and flow with it - that is what I try to do, and as you go along, a lot seems much less complicated; all of a sudden people can scream and shout, or something somebody does that used to bother, doesn't affect anymore and is not important any more. Actually it feels quite good to get rid of a lot of that load! It's half of the disease because that is where disease actually starts. In the thought.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Seekhelp,Thanks for owning that.If more people would, the world would be a better place.Just what I experienced the last 2 days besides what I posted is a Big Blessing to me.Hoping more Blessings to come every day for others and myself.I am following my higher guidance as I see many others are doing here.Healing Blessings to all Joyce Hi Gigi,Thank you. I did let it flow and I am sure more heavy things will come up to be released.Lots of heavy stuff just waiting to be released into the light from my life's journey. I am still tripping on this experience I had.It was amazing. I had a way better bowel movement, anxiety is way down, my spirit is up, less pain and more positive than I have been in quite a while I feel more like the real me.Negatives are my eyes are very swollen. I do not do well with all the salt that AI says to do. I will adjust that. Hopefully I will sleep tonight. I feel grounded, confident and loving myself. And smiling. I have worked on mind, body spirit emotions for 27yrs.Hopefully this is the healing piece that I have been looking for. Nite all Joyce
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
GiGi, if several months go by from the time you had the AI test to the time you order the initial drops, is the original testing useless and needs to be re-ran? I hope not. I was thinking about this. Every test is nothing more than a snapshot of today, right?

I keep waiting to read someone here has made enormous progress on these drops and it was life-changing - meaning enormous health improvements (Lyme-remission). Not happening yet. Just observable changes, unusual events happening, or other situational occurences. Maybe it's too early given not much time has passed since many started them recently.

Some who have been on them long-term are on many, many other therapies so isolatng AI's effect is hard. It'll be interesting to see if anyone breaks through and notices massive health improvements like some of the people you mentioned on their website.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Gigi,
I have severe neuropathy in my left leg. I cannot ride a bike , push down on the peddle or put much pressure at all on the leg. The buttocks where my 6 lateral rotators are often go into spasm. My inner adductor muscles are tight and constricted. I also feel numbing down to my toes, all 4 except the big toe. I also feel a similar sensation in my left hand. and then numbing goes from my shoulder down to my pinky fingers and the finger next to it.
How would i convey this to AI. Do you think they could help with this problem?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Thanks for clarifying when to send the nest saliva for testing, Gigi,

all the best,

Carry
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I've noticed that a week after round 1 ended, I am having more chemical sensativities than usual. I fel real toxic. Is this normal.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I also had a mild accident, fender bender, on the first round of drops...found this interesting.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Seek help...to answer your comment about remission, my lyme and my daughters is in remission after first round of drops...but also working on emotions in the spiritual area.

(our lyme is not actiave...but still have lupus and some other detox conditions that are moving toward balance)

I do not believe it was only the drops that allowed the remission to occur. I believe it was all the series of protocols I have done, following steps that lead to this. Leading up to now the AI therapy. This is great timing for us to do the therapy, as I believe we were prepared to begin.

I sense my hand has been held by God all along, when I felt so alone and did not know how to take care of all we deal with with the lyme and co's. WE have all been in this spot. It can be so overwhelming.

Releasing emotions was the tipping point. Especially the emotion of having this horrible disease and anger that my life was changed by it. I am finally free of the anger...and released it, to take one step at a time.
This is a very new concept for me, but I know it to be true for me.

The AI therapy worked on emotions in Round 1 along with following an invitation by an unknown person to come to a healing service at a local church.

The healing service was an amazing experience for us. This is something no one has to go to Germany for, and no one has to pay money for...it is free to all who seek, ask and find.

It was a gift, that we opened.

I believe doors open for each of us that we must be prepared to open, sometimes out of our comfort zone. But not so uncomfortable to feel they are not good for us, but just very different to what we have known or experienced before.

You know in your heart if AI or another form of natural type healing is right for you at this time. Follow your heart, and do not compare yourself to others...as we each have our own journey.

AI is also a gift to us, as we are experiencing many little changes that we know are from the drops. It is helping us move forward.

Also, there is an open invitation for all to come to God, who is our creator and healer. This is the most important thing, way beyond getting rid of lyme. This is the great life lesson I have learned from having lyme and other health issues.

Emotinal and spiritual healing is our true healing that we really need. Our bodies die, but I truely believe our spirits live on.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I think a step towards the spiritual and emotional side of healing came to me recently as a present -- a little bookelt called The Importance of Forgiveness by John Arnott.

And, I worked as a minister and that book still got me!
 

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Posted by UnexpectedIlls (Member # 15144) on :
 
I need help!

I wish I could find this healing...
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Okay, I got my secind round of drops and the tesing said I cleared everything that showed up on the last est including all food and mold substances.

I tested this time for two industrial toxins mercury and tin and 7 chemicals theyc an't name.

Just those two industrial toxins.

Is this what everyone else got too?

Seems kinda funny that I cleared so much and still feel so sick.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
As I understand your body now recognizes these things correctly but it may take a year for it to remove them. Just because they no longer test does not mean they are resolved.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo-----

Okay, I got my secind round of drops and the tesing said I cleared everyOkaything that showed up on the last est including all food and mold substances.
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Yes, Hobo, the errors in the DNA which they found in the first testing have been corrected. That means that your body now recognizes wheat as a food (if you had that as a problem) and will now start to undo the damage that is usually created by a wheat/gluten caused leaky gut. Once the leaky gut starts to heal, which I am sure takes several months, the toxins will no longer leak into the blood and cause problems, but instead will move through and out of the body, hopefully.
As that starts happening, you need to learn about taking some binders to assure their total departure from the gut.
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I tested this time for two industrial toxins mercury and tin and 7 chemicals theyc an't name.
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We are exposed daily to some 80,000 chemicals. The name of the stuff is unimportant, because our body doesn't deal with names, but rather with electromagnetic frequencies . These errors/dysregulations were found in the DNA and were corrected. Now your body can start to recognize this stuff as it runs into it and can take defensive action. This it was never able to do because it simply did not recognize these two industrial toxins and these 7 chemicals as a toxin. It never knew what it was, stuffed it away in some spot, and once the stuffing reached the max, we get sick and sicker.
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Just those two industrial toxins.
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They found only these two on the layers of the Onion which they searched. There are many layers to this onion; or if you think of an apple, sometimes you have to go to the very core to find the worm. They will continue searching and if they are there, more will be found and corrected.
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Is this what everyone else got too?
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Everyone gets different numbers and different substances. But since the name of the substance is not important and there are thousands of different ones, this is all they tell us. I wouldn't know what to do with them if I knew the names, except that once the chemicals are being addressed by the immune system, it is a good idea to again learn what to take to help them on their way out. With chemicals, solvents, metals, etc. often glycine helps. It's a good idea to learn about binders and detox support as you go through this process.

Please be happy that they are finding the stuff. At least you have the chance of starting to clear out some of the burden that you have accumulated over many years.

When they find and correct certain substances or blockages, that does not mean that the toxins are now gone instantly. I talked about that on an earlier post on this thread. Please read it.
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Seems kinda funny that I cleared so much and still feel so sick.
*********************************************************Yes, it took us a lifetime to accumulate and it is a good thing that the body will not let go of all at the same time. We would not survive it. You would feel like some of the people who are doing the wrong therapy at the wrong time at a pace that is damaging in the long run. Stress is not conducive to healing. And there is no way where AI could search through all systems at once. Right now, they are merely removing some of the debris and then the rebuilding will start.

Children go through it much quicker. The longer we have been ill and the older we are, the longer it takes. I am sure the letter they sent you with your bottle explains this in detail.

Hope you can be patient and in good spirits.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Runner, the problems you describe are more or less the result of deficiencies caused by the allergies. Everything seems to go sour when the minerals are not absorbed. The food and gut problems. All allergies combined contribute to the problems you mentioned.

AI does not check our particular limbs, etc. They look for the errors in the programming of your DNA and seek to correct it. It will take many weeks to go through all the different systems.

Re Borreliose - google translate http://translate.google.com/translate_t# the text on the AI website under Questions and Answers (Fragen & Antworten). That article explains what they are looking for, correct it, and once corrected, the body is able to take care of it.
That applies to all specific symptoms. They are not treating the symptom, but instead removing the erroneous programming in the DNA. They are only working to correct the electromagnetic errors. Electromagnetic waves is all the body can identify. If these are incorrect, they are the cause for the body's malfunctioning on the biochemical level - which is secondary. Once the "electric wiring" is fixed, healing can begin.

Sometimes physical support is necessary, most of which you have already done, Runner. It didn't hold, because the switches pointed in the wrong direction. Trains heads in the wrong direction.

Got to get dinner going!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Thanks Gigi,
I appreciate that explanation.
Interesting, yes i have many deficiencies. My body is "starving" for minerals as they test time and time again.
The physical support helps, but doesnt keep me in tact.
Thanks for the link, will check it out.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
All our results look almost the same.....even down to where the spine is blocked. Seems very odd to me they would produce that similar of a report among so many different people here. Could the entire US population have the same stuff too?

Maybe we can evolve into a super breed of human that can't be hurt if we take the drops. All the other poor souls will have 80 blockages and be doomed.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I've seen many results from AI and there are differences, some significant. So I do not believe they are the same though there are clear patterns and some issues that are more predominant than others.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I was very surprised not to have a mercury allergy as most do. Also, I tested positive for wheat, but not gluten. Another surprise.

I still need to know if drops can be ordered based on a test done over 4-5 weeks ago. Is it still valid? I hope to not have to spend $$$ on testing again if it can be avoided.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Ping, yours are almost identical to mine, the only differences from your brief summary are that in the spine, I had C6 as well as 7 and all 4 of the genetic toxins.

Good luck with your treatment and move,

Carry
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
For me, mercury did not show up until a later round. Give it time. It likely will.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I'm hoping the drops will clear up the disautonia probs I get during July's Allergy smackdown.

Any advice of that. Staretd about 3 years ago. Have had Lyme now 15 years.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
so, any longtimers on the drops feel better yet?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seek, to answer you specifically

Dr. K. who has been treating chronic illness for 30 years, looks for the same stuff - everything that seems to come up in everyone - as the result of toxicity - food allergies, heavy metals, chemicals, toxins, unresolved conflicts, and dysfunctional organs and blockages. The findings may be similar, but the symptoms affect everyone in a different way depending on certain weaknesses of the body.

A toxin is a toxin is a toxin and it destroys the terrain of the body. As a result, pathogens can find a place to survive in these very areas where toxins settle - brain, CNS, gut, reproductive organs. If you open an ovarian cyst, it contains mercury quite often. If you take apart a prostate, it contains the same toxins.

The spinal blockages are caused by recurring pain impulses from memory. These constant pain impulses tend to tighten the muscles and thus have a negative effect on certain spine/disc locations.

If in doubt at all and feeling and thinking scam and hoax, please don't do it. Stay with what you trust.

There are phases also in this therapy that are sometimes tough to get through, and if you have misgivings at the start, with certainty it will turn sour.

All energy starts with the thought, they way you think. The sweetest grape will turn sour if that is what you expect.

Ping,

in order to have a functional immune system, we need to have sufficient hormone and enzyme production. 13.1 is based on the ALLERGIC reactions they find that are responsible for hormone and enzyme production. If you show an x, it means that you do not produce enough of these to maintain a normally reacting immune system.

Take care.

[ 07-14-2009, 07:54 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo,

Pollen allergies are not pollen caused, but are caused by chemicals in concert with pollen. So you need to get through the chemicals first, which happens after they work the basic dysfunctions.

This is what I learned when someone questioned about allergies on their German Forum which is part of the AI website. The AI people answer and explain there, though the Germans are not the type to spill all their private matters on the internet. So it is not a very busy place. They can call and have their questions answered instead.

Take care.

Hobo, come back later - I will tell you how things are in our house after I get some of my veggies outside taken care of.

[ 07-14-2009, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
This is AI's response to the comment regarding "everybody's test looks the same". I took the liberty and sent a translation of it to Mr. G. and this is his response. Please google translate it.

Hallo,

dass die Auswertungen ziemlich identisch ist ist doch klar, schlie�lich arbeiten die K�rper mit Fehlern, die seit Generationen vererbt werden.
Ein Blutdruck ist auf den ersten Blick auch bei allen Menschen gleich, er bestehtr aus 2 Werten. Dennoch hat er bei allen Personen eine andere Bedeutung. Dies betrifft �brigens alle Werte, die auch ein Mediziner abnimmt. Es gibt Tiefst,- und H�chstwerte. Dennoch kann ein Laie die Werte nicht interpretieren.
Bei uns ist es �hnlich, jedoch nicht auf materile Werte oder Inhaltstoffe begrenzt, sondern f�r den energetischen Status relevant. Dennoch haben alle Werte f�r jede Person eine v�llig andere Bedeutung. Das hei�t: grunds�tzlich ist keine Messung identisch. Hinzu kommt, dass unser K�rper eben NICHT in Begrifflichkeiten denkt. Daher sind die Werte so individuell, wie sie anders nicht sein k�nnen.
Es sollten sich die Leute keine Gedanken dar�ber machen, und noch viel weniger unqualifizierte Kommentare abgeben, wenn sie von dieser Materie keine Ahnung haben. Personen, die davon Ahnung haben sind weltweit wohl an einer Hand abzuz�hlen. Wir messen z.B. keine Infektionen, was schlie�lich zum materileen Bereich geh�rt. Doch selbst wenn wir das nicht messen, hei�t das doch noch lange nicht, dass keine Infektion vorhanden sein kann. Offenbar ist es f�r Laien schwierig, den Unterschied zwischen dem materillen Bereich und dem nichtmaterillen Berich zu unterscheiden. Das Unsichtbare steuert den K�rper und nicht das Sichtbare, wie etwa Bakterien oder Viren. Die sorgen nur f�r Symptome wie eben Entz�ndungen.
Die Leute aus dem Forum sollten sich wirklich vom Sichtbaren verabschieden, zumindest wenn es um die PSP-Therapie geht.

Liebe Gr��e"



In short, we have to differentiate between the visible matrix area (flesh and blood) and the energetic status of each body, the electromagnetism that is driving the engine. The invisible (energetics) is the steering mechanism of the body, rather than the visible, such as bacteria and viruses.

In order to understand PSP/AI, we have to let go of the visible, but pay attention to the energetics that drive the system. Most of our bodies run on one cylinder instead of 6 or 8 and as long as that is so, I doubt that we can get well and stay well. The good news is: 15 drops of informed water per day! Name me a better one, please.

Take care.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
If it works, I'm gonna fly there and take him to dinner.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Me too :-)
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
This is a translation of the description how they make the drops (Energetikum) with Babelfish which works a little better. You get the idea.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt
We brought the Tower of Babylon onto ourselves!


"How is the Energetikum manufactured?

Change of polarity our body, and/or our cells in the federation, reacts on electromagnetic fields, that is probably undisputed. Each material, all the same whether send a stone, a flower, a virus or humans, incessantly electromagnetic waves, which among other things consisted of the forces electricity and magnetism.

In this way �generate ``each material its own and completely individual wave sample or (recognition) sample. The DNA, in which our hereditary factors (components) are coded among other things, is at the same time a photon memory. In addition, the DNA is transmitter and antenna at the same time. Not only photons are stored, but also delivered again.

About 95 per cent of the DNA among other things regulatorische units are, to a large extent however sequence sections with so far scientific unknown quantities function. These sequence sections are used obviously in order to store �information ``in form of electromagnetic samples.

By the way we assume even here even own experiences (conflict situations) are put down as samples, which work unconsciously in certain similar situations, and so the body to affect to be able. Thus can be also explained, like e.g. Talents or behaviors u.v.m, to be left.

Now if a body with a material comes into contact, the electromagnetic waves sent by it are received from our cells, with which in the DNA stored samples compared.

Communication of the cells among themselves happens probably over bio photons. Bio photons transfer not only energy, but also information, whereby alone the sample from electricity and magnetism already means information. Depending upon that, whether wave and samples agree it is activated, appropriate chemical processes.

Conversely means: if cells react on a harmless material, by releasing chemical preventive measures, consequently wrong samples are present in the DNA, which are responsible for it. These samples whether on materials, or such, which were produced by a conflict we can identify on the basis your DNA, which we get over something saliva. Which all samples have together, is the fact that they affect negatively according to body (gegenpolig), and to the most different chemical processes to lead in such a way, which express themselves again in the most different symptoms. Gegenpolig, because all these samples release exactly the opposite, which they actually are.

With many harmless materials they release preventive measures, in certain situations release them contrary emotions, like fear, rage, in addition, such samples can release sadness u.v.m. even pain in the back, where the physician does not find a cause for it.

ALLERGY-IMMUNE a method developed to coin/shape in order to recognize a great many of these samples, which affect the body negatively, and it gegenpolig on the Energetikum. If the concerning takes now these purely energetically modified drops during a certain period, by the regular impulse giving polarities are turned in the opposite.

The consequence is that the body recognizes harmless materials again logically that many times previous loading situations (e.g. elevator fear) are missing that pain impulses in the back can disappear and much more besides. Upward"

Take care.

This text is a Babelfish translation from German to English and therefore sounds a bit foreign.

[ 07-16-2009, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I remember reading that having Lyme would change your DNA. I keep praying for healing on a cellular level, that evry cell go back the way God intended.

If AI helps, fantastic!
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
GiGi, I'm not a believer in treatments work if you will them to and they will not if you are skeptical. Some may be that way. I'm not.

I believe optimism has power and attitude is important, but it's not the end all be all. Give a person in allergic shock an epipen and tell me it matters if you 'believe' it works or not. Does it matter if you believe chewing an aspirin may not save your life during a heart attack? It has a physiological effect.

I'm listerning to others' experiences and considering this firm has been in business a long time. One thing going for them is usually scam artists go belly up fast. AI has been a viable business entity for a while.

I'm intrigued by this stuff I admit, but far from able to comprehend energy medicine nor want to try to explain it to family, docs, etc.

A single LLMD visit can cost $500+. AI may be a worthwhile investment if it yields any benefit. Hell, there are LLMDs convincing patients w/o lab proof of Babesia to spend $1,500+ a month on the yellow goo in the hopes it'll make a difference. $500 is 1/3 of this. It's all perspective I guess,
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Hey, Seek, I understand what you are saying, but the examples you are using about crisis medicine don't work the same way as energy medicine in my opinion.

I do think that energy medicine is helped along with positive "energy" and that the changes take time to unfold usually. So I try to be positive just to enhance the results -- can't hurt.

I'm interested to see what people's results with AI will be down the road.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I'm clueless about energy medicine so I could be wrong. It's water in a bottle. I guess you have to leverage some faith to have positive results as the process is not understandable regarding manufacturing of the product. I hope all get great outcomes from it. I'm closely following this thread.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
so, any long timers on the drops feel better yet?
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Hobo, I've been doing this since January - don't know if that makes me a long timer.

Right now I feel really, really good. It has not always been the case while doing the drops.

There have been some very,very rough days and there may be more to come.

Many things have changed for the better. The headaches that came in round 2 or 3 (can't remember) are gone.

The pulling sensation in my face, particularly cheekbones is nearly gone as I have been working through the metals and chemicals I suppose.

I had a large amount of scar tissue between two of my ribs. One of them had been popping out of place for years. There was a LOT of it, I could feel it and it started to be prominent enough to be seen. It is gone.

I have been discharging a lot through my eyes and at times they have burned, not unbearable but quite present. This is lessening a good deal.

My energy right now is very good and I go all day long, gardening, mowing lawns, repairing things at home, taking care of the grandkids, normal things.

Most importantly, I feel very alive and happy.

Next week may bring a whole new scenario but the changes that I didn't even know needed to take place, are taking place.

Whenever things have gotten worse, it has been temporary and it is best to try not to dwell on it or have to give it a name. Sometimes easier said than done.

I'm in this for the long haul and will report back when I have something more to share.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://www.howcast.com/videos/152525-The-Five-Levels-Of-Healing-Level-3

This is Dr. K.'s voice talking about the sequence of events: Energy field followed by biochemical metabolism. Listen to all of his Five Levels of Healing when you have a chance. Our understanding usually starts with the biochemical workings and most school medicine is based on this. (Prof. F.A. Popp, no connection to
Bionic, is mentioned here and of course his biophotons)
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Thanks GiGi. I'll spend some time to listen to it.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
i have a question, my daughter on her second round of drops and i see her gaining weight and looks bloated and her legs swallowed. she doesn't eat that much to gain that weight. she constipated most of the time.
she doesn't take anything else or vitamins.

does she need to detox? how?

i am new to this and she is been sick since last year and she hasn't take any antibiotic. just 2 times one for staph infection in her thumb, and one time for u ti infection.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I have heard a few mention this..
Gigi, do you have a reason why ?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Fifi25, Since a lot of toxins are being released with the drops and are on the move, liquids are very necessary. I have posted about this several times in this thread. Not plain water.

You need to also learn about binders: Chlorella, charcoal, pectin, betasitosterol, chitosan, lots of fiber. Drink the juice from juicing, but eat the fiber from the fruits and vegetables during the day. Add a bit of juince to it to make it more palatable. It is wonderful food for the good bacteria. Most people make the mistake and throw it out.

If constipated, there are many ways, magnesium for one, to get things moving. Colonics by licensed professionals help. If she is consistpated, the toxins tend to be reabsorbed in the gut (which probably is not totally healed yet) and moving around the system settling elsewhere.

Binders should be taken 30-45 minutes before meals, and before going to bed. She will wake up much happier if you help her moving these toxins out. Lots of fiber.

Runner, if the lyphatics are stressed/blocked , bodies hold water. Nutrients can't get it and toxins can't get out.

Light brushing from toes to top of head and vice versa, always moving toward the middle of the chest where the lymphatics exit, also helps. Hop the trampolin if you can physically do it. Chi machine helps move things. This therapy is effective, but you need to

Massage feet - look up a point chart - all the meridians end in the feet also. If you find a spot on the feet/soles that hurt - that is the problem area. Massage it. Both feet. Until it no longer hurts.

There are many reasons for edema, but that is a starter. Heavy metals easily affect the kidneys filtration ability. Force the toxins through gut, by taking binders and sufficient liquids.

Things stagnant - that is what makes us ill.

[ 07-16-2009, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Hobo, yes, our DNA is getting longer and longer.

"Microbiologist Gitte Jensen, PhD had shown, that the older we get, the more foreign DNA is attached to our own DNA. Somewhere along the line pathogenic microbes invade the host's DNA and become a permanent part of it. Since we use only 2% of our DNA, it may not be a problem. In fact, it may make us who we finally become. It may also cause a number of symptoms and chronic illness."

www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/chronic illness

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I have the same problem with the extra weight, or I should say , "fluff" as I have not weighed myself, ...but do see improvement with taking loads of fiber, lots of hydration I add electrolytes to my mineral water, (Selectrolytes brand), and now do as is suggested about eating correctly to eliminate, which means adding more elimination type foods, not just a healthy diet as I was already doing.

It is disturbing to notice this, especially as I have always been very fit looking...

My lymph system was shutting down...so I added some drainage techniques.

I have decided to mentally not worry about this now, just to do the right things, to keep toxins flowing out, and to be happy and feel grateful for healing. I will work on the weight thing after the AI therapy is complete. I am hoing this just normally regulates.

I have a sense my thyroid has always had dysregulations as well as other things that could be causing this change. There is no way I would be gaining weight or fluid on my diet, if you saw what I ate for years...always the correct things.
My body is just changing...hormonally and with the AI therapy. Just gotta let it happen.

I feel great, really great!...but still have the extra fluid...but not as intense as before I started to really up my fluids with the right fluids and broths. By allowing my cells to hydrate and retain the hydration, it appears the toxins started to flow out more freely...like my sells were dehydrated, even drinking all the water i was drinking...it was not the right type to keep me hydrated properly.

I Also do the far infrared sauna now as I just finally purchased one. Have seen great results so far, with lots of debris coming out of my skin, and feeling fantastic!

Have finally been sleeping through the night this week!

lp
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Question about parasites and the AI therapy?

A little graphic...

I have noticed that I now have some sort of parasites...in my elimination! Also some very thin looking worms, whitish , clear and thin, in my urine!!! It seems that lately, one comes out each time I urinate...this is creepy! Along with lots of foam in my urine!

Does the AI therapy cause parasites to die, and be removed?

As I have noticed lots of parasites in my stool since starting my mega fiber and my lymph/liver and kidney drainage support! could this be from the AI or just adding these ingredients...

Actually glad that I see them, so now I can ask how to address the situation.

MY stools are looser...from all the fiber and whole fresh diet, so it is much easier to actually see what comes out!

Should I also start a natural parasite cleanse, like Humaworm to help with this parasite clean out...

I never thought I had any parasites...as both my ART practitioner muscle test and my stool test came out negetive for parasites...

Maybe just not the priority at the time of ART testing...but my biotenser says I have parasites!
And my eyes see them.

Also, does anyone know of a connection of parasites with mycoplasma, candida or any viruses or autoimmune disorders (lupus)?

Could any of these be caused by parasites?

As these things seem to be the remaining items I have issues with and don't seem to be able to get them under control.... and now parasites?

Any thoughts?

lp
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
lp, Parasites is the first thing Dr. K. pays attention to unless otherwise indicated.

No, AI is not directly killing anything. The PSP drops merely correct th errors in the regulation, so that the immune system can again respond as it should have done all along.

Here is one of my old posts from a few years ago about parasites. I will be back later with some comments/details if you are interested. Got to get some things done before the temperatures go higher.....

"A bit about Parasites -

As I heard it a couple of years ago:

And please do not ask me for the research verification --- this is just real stuff coming from a real doctor's office treating real people, and I am merely passing on what I learned during my own disease process and recovery. If you feel differently, please do not let me keep you from doing so.

Probably the most overlooked area in medicine is the worms in people. That's what Dr. K. says. The worms are a double-edged sword: 90% of people have them without knowing it. When somebody has worms, the worms send out neural messengers, messenger moledules that suppress the immune system.

What it does is create a lazy gut, which for some people is okay, like the chronic indigestion, slow, the slightly constipated sort of mood that many people are in, and it is great as a treatment for Crohn's Disease and colitis because it suppresses the immune system locally; you don't get the inflammatory reactions. However, according to Dr. K., it comes at a big price. It comes at the price in that the immune system in general has defects. It is put to sleep by the neural messenger molecules from the worms, and this is when the viruses, the giardia, the amoebas and the candida, and all those things mutate in a more aggressive forms, and Lyme Disease becomes much more of an issue.

Dr. K. lived in India for a few years and this is where, he says, he became very aware of the worm issue. He ran an immuno-diagnostic lab in their hospital there (he was the lab director), and they had some of the best microbiolgists working for them, seeing them on microscope, etc. They examined the stools of Westerners, when the Americans first came there, on their first day of coming there and found that they were already full of worms when they got there.

They didn't get the worms there in India, they came there with the worms. In fact the Americans were more infested than the Indians living there. However, they worms were in a subdued state. They were the same species of worms but were much, much smaller. Often just microscopic. They could only see them under a microscope, but they identified them with their antigens and realized that worms are throughout the world, an incredible illness, except that in the West, they had adapted to the more sanitary conditions and were in different forms, but were incredibly involved in immune suppression.

He says that today this is still not known in the West. But that for 30 years since then, he has been looking at that, and by using the direct resonance testing, he finds them in a lot of people.

He tells that in recent years he sees worms that he has never seen before - green ones, red ones with green eyes, eye lashes, etc. etc. The description is rather funny when he talks about watching their play in the dish under the microscope imitating the eyelash play as certain actresses do it!

Anyone treating worms knows that it may take 2-3 years on a good program to get a patient successfully de-wormed. The medical benefits are unbelievable. It is so overlooked and underestimated. However, there are a few lone voices on this and nobody wants to talk too much about it. Most of the worms when they die, get immediately digested by your digestion. They also have a process called autolysis. The moment they are in the process of dying and they see that there is no reverse condition here, they autolyze. It's a process of protecting their children - of avoiding detection.

Worms are very, very sophisticated. They are part of our intelligence, If you have a tapeworm, often people have been misdiagnosed as being a dual personality. They have this other side that is completely different -- weird, erratic strange - and then they have this other personality that is very consistent. If you get the worm out, this personality disappears. It is not just a person being influenced by the worm..............

The worms are a very highly evolved consciousness in a very very low-evolved body.
He considers it a huge issue. He tried many labs in the US with little success to get a diagnosis, hoping and hearing it might become a bit better.

The hard thing in parasite cleansing is the die-off effect. When you kill them, you kill them in the brain, in the heart, wherever they are. They live in the lymphatic system, and it plugs up, so it often needs to be accompanied by lymph drainage, massage, exercize, often people are not capable of doing.

He tells of an extreme case where a big woman of about 300 lbs, on the worm treatment for a few days, released worms everywhere. After a few months, she dropped her weight down to 150 pounds, accompanied by a complete personality change.

But he also tells about seeing people who had been given a too-aggressive a treatment too early on, and people developed seizure disorders, with a calcified worm in the brain. He makes an effort to use natural therapies first to seduce the worms to leave where they are, to go for the food in the gut and leave. They are supposed not to mature in the brain; they are only supposed to be in the larvae stage there. He talks about certain protocol killing the larvae stage in the brain, especially for young people with psychotic disorders - very often there are worms in the brain. If people appear weird and this is perceived in the interview, one of the things he checks is - parasites in the brain. It comes up all the time and people have dramatic improvements when they are moved.

Did you know that worms/parasites love milk?"

Take care.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
Thank you Gigi,
binders: Chlorella, charcoal, pectin, betasitosterol, chitosan, lots of fiber.

where do i get these things?
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
chlorella you can get at a health food store, butyou need to make sure its a clean source.
Charcoal, pectin and betasitosterol, chitosan, fiber you can get at the vitamin shoppe very reasonablely priced. most of this stuff will be under the "fiber" section. There is a vitamin shoppe in la. go on there website and put in your zip.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
thank you runner
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Gigi and others,

Do you take the binders, etc. just when you are taking the AI drops, or do you take them between rounds as well?

I have the feeling that the drops continue to work after we finish taking them and before we start the next round, but I have to admit that I take more binders and stuff more consistently while I am actually taking the drops.

Thanks,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I think you have to stay on binders once toxins are cut loose.

one question i have is this.
I translated the questions and answers from the AI website. Near the bottom, it says they do not guarantee full remission. i dont quite understand if the therapy needs to be followed up and how long? Gigi do you know from others who are no longer symptomatic?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks Gigi.

I was hoping to just stay on the AI therapy without doing any killing...but any suggestins about killing these critters/parasites while on AI with some tinctures or herbs?

Don't think I can be peaceful doing nothing, knowing I have these hitch hikers

What does Dr. K suggest for parasites?

LP
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
that is a very interesting article on parasites gigi. thank you for this information.
i have a lazy gi system, and no one seems to be able to figure out why? with suspect of parasites very often. I found it interesting that parasites love milk. I also absolutely crave milk, milk products, dairy. I am trying to cut it out of my diet but it is highly addicting.
the main thing that is keeping me off of it is the way it makes me feel. This is even more incentative.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP - please go to "Lyme Disease: A look Beyond Antibiotics" on www.klinghardtneurobiology.com
and go to the section Parasites. That is exactly the protocol I did ten years ago. Today I would replace Arise & Shine with www.DrNatura.com and then the pharma. According to Dr. K., that is where pharma drugs shine -- not the herbs, etc.

Natura, in my opinion and from the number of friends who have done it, beats Humaworm by far. It is a complete program, including the fiber that really needs to be there. If you have a doctor, check with him/her re Albendazole, Biltricide, and Alinia. Or maybe test energetically. I don't know where we would be without our tensor to test ourselves. I would not hesitate doing Natura while on PSP/AI, because it really would help move out some of that debris that is mobilized because of AI which is just as important.

Fiber is not just dead food. Fiber is no food to us, but it's food to microorganisms - they are usually the good ones. They make butyric acid and other very valuable things out of it that we need for our healthy function. I think I mentioned Juicing and throwing away the fiber.
The only way to juice is - make a glass of vegetable juice every morning, take the fiber and put it in a jar and eat it throughout the day. It is incredible what that does to the microflora. The measurements on the butyric acid content in the stool goes up like 1000% within a few days and the amount of beneficial bacteria, how quickly it nurtures the good bacteria and the balance between good and bad is shifted very quickly. After years of wheat allergy, my husband tests frequently for Butyric Acid.

And if you want to catch the parasites, drink milk a half hour before you take your parasite meds. They will eat up the milk and the meds.

Parasites go dancing
during the phases of Full Moon. They copulate. And people act crazy. Pay attention to the board here during the days of full moon. My doctor's phone rings off the hook.


Nuetmeg

Once you get moving on the PSP/AI, you will mobilize toxins, and that is when you need binders. The minute you don't feel right, feel low, feel blahblah, test yourself for the different binders.

If you can't test, put all of them in front of you and grab by intuition. It is usually the right one. Or take one now and the other 30 minutes before the next meal. But in any case at night before you go to bed.

If you wake up in the middle of the night, you have not supported the organs enough. Help with liver support. And if you wake up feeling like run over by a truck, make sure you take more binders before going to bed. Glycine (1-2-3-4 grams) tests often = for metals and chemicals. Do not take it with other amino acids. but separate and away from the meal. We usually take it at bedtime, because the other proteins are out of the way. We also test quite often for charcoal - any number of capsules (2-4-6-8).

The drops are continually active, whether you are on or off. We take the binders no matter what. After all, you don't want to meet the same mercury or lead molecule again on another go-around. I really don't think we pay enough attention to the binders and that keeps us in miserable status.

If I think of more, I will post.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Gigi,

Great explanation and suggestions!

So you do think the parasites should be addressed now while on AI with two steps, Dr. Natura product and pharma...

I will read the thread of Dr. K, and test the products. Of course I will report!

Thanks a bunch.

lp
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Gigi.

You're the best,

Can you reccomend a brand of Glycine?
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
Hi,
I am doing Humaworm right now. I have about two more weeks and have already sent in my sample to AI ...just waiting for it now. kinda excited!

I want to keep the parasites at bay but I understand that I am not suppose to do anything "major" while doing the AI.

From what I am reading here many folks are doing multiple rounds and I doubt it will be much different for me.

So, beyond binders should I be taking long breaks from parasite killing?

The humaworm is 3 times a year with three month breaks but they also reccommend a "lighter" treatment in between. I don't want to do salt/c affected my heart before.

second question vitamins and AI?

If you are doing binders one should keep up thier vitimin and mineral supply due to the fact that binders don't just bind to the bad stuff but the good stuff as well even if you are taking them away from food and supplements.

So, I am concerned while doing AI that cutting out my vitimin routine in a depleated body on top of the necessary binders might not be a good thing. If it was short term I wouldn't worry too much but as above many of us need months and months.

I also have not started any real lyme killing. I wanted to get the parasites going...which might address the lyme and co-critters a little then get the allergie deal rolling then start with lyme and parasite rounds. Probably short hits with differnt lyme antibiotics natural or other wise.

last question is... If the AI takes say....6 months or more do you think that holding off on killing lyme that long is a bad idea?

Thanks much for you reply!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
hobokinite
I got my glycine at the vitamin shoppe for $7.16. it is by carlson and it is a powdered form.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
There may be disagreement on this topic minerva, but I personally would not be comfortable entirely stopping an antimicrobial program for Lyme disease if you are known to still have active infections.

I'm waiting now for Round 8 to arrive...
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP, no, besides Dr. Natura or similar agent I would not use the pharma anti-parasite now. I think that would be too much while the body is so busy working with the drops. Maybe you can have it energetically tested.

Hobo, I recently picked up NOW glycine (one pound) for about $15., not in capsules, which you can put into a bit of water and drink. It's the easiest to take - has a slightly sweet taste. Take it away from other proteins. It works for both chemicals and metals and who knows what else.

We are really trying to get rid of all the plastics in your life. I think this is one reason why it is felt by AI that Americans are more toxic and have to go through so many more bottles before the turnaround comes. I am constantly wrecking my brain trying to figure this out - EMF, home construction, carpeting, wood paneling, insulations, paints, exposure to the the daily news - murder, fire, bedlam. Why are we more toxic? One major item is consumption of vitamins and food supplements. Not anyone I know living overthere is taking the supplments as we are -- of that I am certain. Most aren't taking any. Where do many of the basic materials for vitamin manufacturing come from?
People in most of Europe eat food - not nutritional supplements and not castrated foods! Cost of supplements is prohibitive and they are not available in every drug store as they are here in quantities like here. They are putting the limits on many - I am sure their medical costs would go through the roof like here.

My husband fainted last year - stayed in ER for 2 nights - Cost $16,000! Insanity. They were never able to find out why he fainted. My homemade red pepper tincture brought him around in 5 seconds. Impossible they said.

Constant exposure to disease on this board affects us more than we are willing to admit.

I just called AI and tossed more questions at them. The above is basically what I hear from them -- get away from more toxins.

Well, Dr. K. started to find the phthalates (plastics) in literally every patient he saw - and that started years ago. Plastic in breastmilk! Citrus drinks out of plastic bottles or alu cans! Water out of plastic bottles especially after they sat in the car in summer weather!

We need to change.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from our own experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
If allergic to wheat, corn and soy, as most are, that means we are allergic to many supplements before doing AI or being treated effectively before taking them.

Any patients visiting Dr. K. are allergic to 2/3 of the bags of supplements they first come in with. Many practitioners on the other hand are not able to determine this by any means of testing.

According to Dr. K., There are four different types of allergies: Autonomic Nervous system response; immunological; emotional; allergies as a biochemical consequence.

No matter which one we suffer from, any allergy stresses the body. Not sure that's the right thing to do day in and day out.

Take care.


P.S. speaking from our own experience and 13 years of Klinghardt lectures.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I'm not totally in 100 percent agreement with you that Americans and a zillion more toxic than Europeans. Perhaps if they live in the coutry, but not the citie snd not the suburbs. I lived in Spain and my ex wife was from Paris. These are polluted cities, bad wiring, cell phones, plastics, MUCHO CIGARETTE SMOKE, etc. Many of our problems.

My instrinct if a doctor says he can't get Americans well, could be a cop out answer.

But, yes, we are a toxic race.

What we need is a time machine.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I also worked at the United Nations a while. Even though NYC had no smoking laws, you could smoke in the UN and they did. Also our office before I joined was on the floor over the Electrical power floor -- and almost evey woman in the office got tumors or even cancer. Thus, they moved the office.

Ofr course no law suits won.

Scary!!!!! I will never live or work in a high rise.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
What can be used instead of pestasol -- that is expensive!
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
http://www.nextag.com/apple-pectin-powder/stores-html

An apple a day ....... we use the apple crushed plus the pectin added to it
 

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Posted by amy21 (Member # 21318) on :
 
what is a good source and brand for
Chlorella,
charcoal,
pectin,
betasitosterol,
chitosan,
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
chlorella, biopure , gigi will comment on this most likely but dr. k tests it and it is a clean source. chlorella is an algae and will bind to toxins..so you have to be careful on your source.

charcoal, almost any health food store will carry charcoal. i have several brands, one i am using now is mms pro.

pectin, can buy in bulk at herb stores..Gigi provided a great link above.

Betasitosterol can also be found at health food stores. ifyou have access to a clinic where the brand Pure is sold, they make something called cholestepure and it has the betasitosterol in it.

Chitosan, online or health foods tore..its pretty basic. often used to absorb fats for people on a diet.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Just a note... purchased AI back in March... finally sent off my sample 2day ... I can no longer cope with these crippling chemical allergies...its debilitating...heightened by abx for sure..so...I sit and wait with nothing left but hope.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cooper, I used to smell everything - when my son would arrive at the front door, with his shirt dried with Downy, I would smell it upstairs many feet away.

Everything that bothered me is gone, gone, with the added benefit that I can now see every teeny mark and have crystalclear vision.

If you have it badly, be sure to be patient. It will take a number of rounds of the drops. And be sure you report to them for every round as they ask -- what is still the same, what got worse, and what got better. It is nice for them to know, because there are so many areas/systems to search and find the different connections.

I will be rooting for you.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Thank you GiGi... it is horrid. One wiff and I'm weak weak weak and dizzy for the day. I am very optimistic about this solution. My chemical allergies began 20 years ago when having amalgams removed...this was before there were any safety protocols.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
My husband told me today that "it" looked like wrapped in cellophane ---- that's what pectin does if you take it early enough before the rest of the food comes down the channel...... Do they still make cellophane or is it now only saran wrap????
Generation gap.

Hope you do some wrapping. It pays off in the long run.

Take care.

P.S. I picked some of our fresh raspberries that morning, crushed them, and added a heaping teaspoon full of apple pectin (no cooking). It made a wonderful breakfast addition.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Also found malic acid helps with aluminum as a chelator/binder. I cant find anything better to help chelate alumninum, Gigi any options?
a product i have been using that i like alot is called chelatorx my doctor suggested. it is a combo of edta, malic, chlorella, and a few other things. so when we test now, alot less tests when i use this product.

My AI Test came back last week. I am not sure if this is second or third round. The second round , some evaporated in my purse, or leaked out...i wrote AI and they said to resend saliva. So this is what my third reading showed:

12 chemical substances
6 energetic blockages

I am really exhausted alot , very sleepy. I often have trouble going to sleep. The past two nites i have used castor oil packs for my liver. I know my liver is big player in my health. I recently had a pesticde exposure, so I am very ill. Energetically testing, i need alot for metals, and pesticides. I am juicing greens alot and trying to keep my body alkaline. My digestion is quite poor..and my elimination, so i know this is an area that needs work. I have enjoyed reading this post and it has given me alot of incenative to keep up the binders..I have been at this game for quite some time and it is very easy to get discouraged.
I am noticing I am having alot of dreams too. I used to not be able to recall my dreams. When i first wake up i lay flat and move my head gently side to side. It helps the recall. Alot of my dreams are about drowning in water..or the ocean or waves coming on top of me. I am starting to record this to keep better track as well as my symptoms while going through the detox.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Runner,

"trying to keep my body alkaline".

Don't overdo - toxic heavy metals go into solution only in acidic environment.

If you do juice, be sure to eat the fiber - it is as valuable or more so than the juice. I posted it somewhere here. Drink the juice, but put the fiber in a jar and add a little flavorful juice and eat it during the day.

You digestion will get better as your leaky gut heals after the wheat etc. allergies are corrected. It will take several months to heal the gut. Just think how long you have walked around with this.

Cilantro tincture and cilantro tea (made only with a few drops of tincture / testing!) before bedtime help with alu also. But need to be careful if fillings still in mouth. I know you don't. A cup or two of vinegar in bath also help with alu detox.

If alu is severe, I seem to remember Dr. K. uses Desferral. But you need to make sure to replenish Iron because it takes that out also.

You will be running again!

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Thanks Gigi..your information you share is worth so much to me..i appreciate this.
cilantro , am very sensitive to, but i love the taste, i buy it fresh and add it to juices or soups.
never heard of the vinegar bath..interesting..didnt know.

Thank you about running! I like to set these pictures as the goal and focus on it.

You take care
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
On Round 4 this week.

Now: 9 Chemicals
6 Energetic blocks

In the last round 3, I had
9 Chemicals
5 energetic blocks

hopefully they are different ones, or just maybe having a hard time removing them.

Daughter: 7 Chemicals
7 energ. Blocks

Previous: 9 chemicals
2 energetic blocks

2nd Day, I have bad eye pain again, with sensitivity to smells and polutants in the air with my eyes, like when I smell car fumes whild driving. My eyes burn and are dry. This happened on round two as well.

Feel sticky fluid oozing from my eyes, so am trying sterile moisture solution for eye relief. Hope this is ok...just want to get rid of the sludge and dry pain.

also, my sinuses are releasing things. I have been adding binders as I do not want to swallow and reabsorb anything that is being eliminated!

Very interesting that the eye and sinus thing happens at the same times, off and on, a few hours after I take the drops!

Daughter has no physical reactions to report...just sliding thought fine!
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Parfait, mee too, but I don't credit the sticky eye and sinus outpouringto AI but to thios wicked pollen season we're having. Grass and ragweed. Oh, My!!!!! Bad.

If these drops could take away allergies, I'd feel nearly human again.
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
i thought i would try to repost my questions hopeing someone had any thoughts. i should be getting my first round in five days.

Should you keep up with vitimins and mineral supplements while on AI if you are doing a lot of binders?

Do I lose the benefit of treating parasites priot to AI if I am on AI for months and am not taking any anti-parasitics?

If the AI needs to take multiple treatments and one is at it for months and months should I consider also treating for lyme while taking the AI as well?
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
i thought i would try to repost my questions hopeing someone had any thoughts. i should be getting my first round in five days.

Should you keep up with vitimins and mineral supplements while on AI if you are doing a lot of binders?

Do I lose the benefit of treating parasites priot to AI if I am on AI for months and am not taking any anti-parasitics?

If the AI needs to take multiple treatments and one is at it for months and months should I consider also treating for lyme while taking the AI as well?
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
AI is not a "Lyme disease treatment". Thus, if someone still has active infection, I do not think it is wise to stop all Lyme treatment while doing AI.

I'm on month 8 and I am glad to have done AI but I would not have been comfortable stopping ALL other therapies for that length of time - and I had largely controlled many of the Lyme-related infections before starting AI.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Scott,
What exactly are you doing for lyme or have you done that you felt was successful?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Also have sticky/crusty debris around the inner edges of my outer ear, in the nooks and crannies.

Thought it may have been shampoo debris...but is not. It is like something is sticking to my ear and scabby, but not a scab.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP, I used a hair color at one time and experienced these crusty remains on my ear for 4 weeks. It gummed up my hair and everything else during the night.

It is definitely toxins exiting by these means. The body will find the most convenient spot to release, whether we like it or not. Be glad it - whatever "it" is, is departing.

Be sure you frequently test for binders - we are now testing several times during the day. At one time it tests for definite metal binders, the next time more geared toward chemical binders, the next time charcoal; it just goes on and on.
When I find to be blocked, because of strong detoxing, I usually unblock it with the binder that is needed at the particular time. It changes constantly, which tells me that everything is on the move.

I hope you are able to test somehow, with tensor or pendulum, whatever, because it is so helpful to know what is happening. It takes the guessing out of the game.

By the way, it is very likely that at one time - possibly many years ago, you used something close to the ears -- shampoo, cremes -- which the body was unable to deal with at the time and simply packed it away. Too many of these "pack-aways" eventually became the burden that brought the jug to overflowing.

I am tickled pink when I see this kind of thing because the body is working again.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
I was a hairdresser from age 17 to 40 so I am sure many of these poisons will be releasing. I have had the eye goop,nose running,extreme neck and down the back pain. Lots of emotions coming up to be released.I am sleeping a lot. Still taking KPU supps along with AI. I would not feel comfortable not doing the supps,and my Md agrees as does pendy and bio-tensor. I have had 7-8 day where almost all my symptoms lift.Its so amazing. At that time I feel grounded,have lots of energy and way less pain. Great to feel more positive and hopeful again. After the lift I get slammed again with big time painful symptoms Physical and emotional. Happy Healing everyone Joyce
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
I get those wonderful weeks as well. Totally forget anything was every wrong!! Then like you mentioned Joyce, Bam!

I will say that as time goes on each "bam" is less intense but the way things change with this, that is far from written in stone.

I had the crusty thing on the outer ridge of one ear as well, along with a lot of ear pain during that time - a couple of months ago.

The outrageous sensation in my cheekbones and face that was around for several months seems to be going away.

My eyes are still an outlet for toxins and according to the tensor, right now it's chemicals. Glycine is helping a lot with that.

I am carrying binders and drainage remedies in the car as I can feel the toxins roaming about and can't let it go for too long.

Minerva - I'm not taking much in the way of vitamins and supplements. Now and then I get the feeling for something and test it.

I can't offer much about lyme treatment as I haven't been on any antibiotics or killing substances for over a year.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just tested with the biotenser (Dr.W's), and my ear crust appears to be a combo of plastics and chemicals.

Eyes are PLASTICS being released today. Like you Nana, I have had outer ear pain when sleeping on my ears...preceding this release.

And, yes, have had my "greyish" roots dyed over the years...now I"m in a delema, of to stop or not to stop...as I am monthly adding that toxic burdon to my body! Always knew it was bad, but that great feeling of youth...after those roots are covered cannot be underestimated.

Guess I have to begin going all natural! This is worse than giving up coffee! Anyone else still dying their hair? Is there a natural product?

Yes, GIGI, i too am happy when these things happen as they are not seriously painful, just very different, and it feels good to know something good is happening toward health. The binders have made a world of difference!

I am learning so much valuable info from doing this therapy.

I'll keep reporting my odd findings...just to compare!

Thank you all for sharing and encouraging me!

lp
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP - I use Light Mountain Henna - have used for many years. I will not turn grey as long as I can still raise my arms and put it on! I just put it on by the handful working it in like shampoo. No time for strand-by-strand application.

Test it as recommended in the package.

And I love coffee - it is a super antioxidant - so I tell myself and enjoy every sip of it, even through the years of Lyme.

Take care and enjoy!
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
There is a company called EcoColors that sells to salons and consumers.

Some of their colors are ppd free. Don't know a lot about them but this thread has inspired me to look around.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Nana,looking forward to more and more good days and the bam's getting lighter. The most good days I had was 3 together the others were one day once a week. Its like a miracle for me to feel and see these positives after 27 yrs. I use organic henna.I love it as it gives my hair a lot of body. Thanks Nana will look into Eco Colors.Some that I thought were non-toxic are not. So do your homework.Happy healing everyone Joyce
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks for the color suggestions!
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Yes, be sure you test anything you put onto your scalp and hair before you do it. Several years ago, I purchased one made in Italy (can't remember the name), so-called natural, sold at the very prestigious Tahoma Clinic and I got the drippy-drips out of the ears. It also immediately closed up my throat. Luckily Dr. K. usually out of town when needed was here and rescued me on this one with a homeopathic made from the residue in the bottle.

Please do test before using - any!

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
ay this good info on hair color . i almost bought some at whole foods, naturtint, i will have to get it tested. good idea Gigi.

I am having sleep problems on my drops (i have them anyway)

Ia m working more on the binders, it seems i could be taking binders all day long.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Remember Natural does not mean organic.It should be certified organic. And everything needs to be energy tested for your own body.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Runner - maybe try not to take the drops too close to bedtime. The early bottles kept me on the alert also. Now I don't notice it any longer.

Discovered a nice use for apple pectin today --- it was very hot today - always ready for ice of some sort -- took some different fruit juices, mixed a teaspoon of pectin into it, in small dishes and froze all. Makes a nice sherbet in a very short time.

Enjoy the summer!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Thanks Gigi..your sherbert sounds great..

Healing in santa cruz..any suggestions on color going from light brown to a dark blonde color?
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Gigi, if i take my drops..how long do i need to wait before i take my charcoal or other binders?

not sure if this question has yet been addressed for this is quite a meaty post.
 

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Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Funny you all talking about hair colorants... I sort of gave up. I will just use Henna too from times to times, as nothing else seems good.

None of the so called 'natural' colorants except for pure Henna tests for me. The rest, all 'poisonous'.

Same for shampoo. I found a medical one, sold in a supermarket, no added smell, no color, pH 5.5. That is the one that tests for the whole family.

I went to Korea and tested ALL shampoos in a supermarket (because I'll move to Korea soon). I found NONE that I could use. The supermarket was a Tesco + Samsung, a huge one... There were LOADS of shampoos, it took me about 40 minutes to look into all of them.

So I bought loads of shampoo bottles here in Europe to bring to Korea...

Funny that for toothpaste, I won't need to do that as I found a good brand there. And if not, I just go to the mix Himalayan salt + baking soda and brush my teeth with that.

I don't need hair conditioners anymore. What is helping is a home made tincture of cinnamon. I use vodka 40%, let sit for about 6 weeks, shaking it daily, then apply directly on the scalp once every 2 weeks.

It feels divine and the hair becomes like silk (not immediately, but a few days later I started to notice the difference). You get many acupuncture points treated this way too. Not recommended to do before bedtime though.

I don't know for the ones with clear hair tones though, as the tincture is pretty dark red.

Other dangerous things people keep rubbing are creams, milks and oils. I still prefer any natural oil instead. Jojoba is so far, the best I found, but anything cheaper like olive oil, grapeseed oil is also good. Incomparable to any of the stuff we find in normal shops.

And the other dangerous thing I see people using are perfumes or deodorants. Most (if not all) deodorants have aluminium. I would keep them away like devil.

If I want to get some good smell rubbed on my body, I just put a drop of any essential oil in an oil bottle and rub it. Lavander, lemon, there are dozens, hundreds, whatever fits your mood of the day.

An aunt of mine faints when in contact with certain artificial perfumes. They are neurotoxic and allergenic.

Perfumes with isopropyl alcohol, also no, thanks.

People think I'm exaggerating. I don't care what they think. I just don't want to fall sick again. If you all start asking with the biotensor all around you, you may become like me!!

Not because a product is labeled natural and costs a fortune, it means non-toxic or good for everyone. There are many non-expensive alternatives. Only for the hair color, so far I found one single product that is Henna. I couldn't find anything else that tests for me.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
So, do you people feel that all teh drainage from eyes and siniuses rigt now are AI and not allergies? ALos my gums have ben really hurting sinnce doing it.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Same here. I still feel the tender gums, on and off, with each new bottle. Lasts a day or two, then no more. I still have eye drainage, on and off.

All must go.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Hobokinite,
The eye and sinus drainage I commented on is definately different than allergies.

The sinus thing, has only happened twice to me, and each was a one time blast of something, in the middle of the night, escaping from my sinus...not a continual dripping like seasonal alergies, which I used to have years ago before treatment.

I immediately took some chorella as I did not want to reabsorb anything I was detoxing.

No comparison, especially after testing with biotenser...it's chemical/plastics and candida related, per energetic testing.

I do believe that many experience the seasonal allergie thing...but this that I speak about is different.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Just got my results back... first time. Am I supposed to send them money for shipping for the first round. Not sure. I sent them the 395 euro's


Also it says 2 to 3 rounds.... does this mean I have to send another 395 after every three rounds?
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
I think they tell you when they'd like postage help, Cooper. Why don't you e mail to say you're ready for round 1 if you're uncertain.

No, the 395 covers all rounds of drops, however long it takes; I did wonder the same thing, but Herr G reassured me.

Good luck with the drops: I'm waiting for round 2 to arrive,

Carry
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
how long do you wait to take binders after the drops?
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
i just want to understand AI payment, do you pay each time for test and drops or you just pay one time?
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
I'm hoping that my mucus merrygoround is just AI.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Runner, you know from experience when you feel worse than normal bad.

Learn to test or get tested. If you show blocked regulation, whatever unblocks you is the culprit, i.e. metals, chemicals, pesticides, etc. Then test for binders. Take binders 30 minutes before meals, and before bedtime.

If you don't know how to test or get tested energetically, I would use intuition and alternate. Whatever comes to mind first - you are good at that!

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Fifi25, you just pay one time (395 Euro) and that covers all the bottles you will need. When they send you the bottle, they ask that you pay the postage of $10.00 for each bottle you will be getting. They mention it in the letter that comes with the bottle pr is e-mailed to you. The information re postage is in their letter (in English). If it is not mentioned in the first test results, they are asking for the postage in the second. I don't recall exactly.

Ignore the 3 rounds, or whatever they show in the letter. The Germans are correcting things more quickly than Americans - their average is 3 - 5 bottles.

Take care.


I have heard that from G. and have also been told by a practitioner in Germany who uses the AI.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
"Your analysis is ready. Their report is attached.

If you have ordered the therapy, the drops have been shipped today. The drops please with 3 x 5 drops per day. And this for 2 weeks. Then send us a new saliva sample for control."


Maybe reading is important lol
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cooper, what are you asking here? Your test results are probably in the e-mail as an attachment. Download it. The drops will arrive in about a week if they mailed them the same day as they e-mailed you the test results.

????? Just ask.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Im actually pointing out how challenged I am... meaning I asked before if i had to send them money for mailing when in fact they have already sent my drops...

I cant wait!

Interestingly these are toxins they listed

Phenyl mercury acetate

Tributyl tin oxide

Lead
Cooper
Nickel
Mercury

I am allergic/blocked by

Corn
Gluten
Soy
Wheat

and by 6 different molds.

Mucor mucedo
Mucor racemosus
Mucor spinosus


Penicillium expansum
Penicillium notatum
Penicillium brevicompactum


not that I know what this means...but I am hoping others may contribute.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Wow cooper that is alot. i imagine, like all of us, you will need alot of binders.

thanks gigi. yes, i am quite used to this process. with the pesticide exposure i had last year, i have lost some of my intuition and higher self, which is disheartening, but knowiing its temporary. I am trying to focus on the long term goal and not get lost in my current symptoms. i used to be very good at guaging what my body needs. I am often very very foggy, and i feel incapacitated sometimes , esp during the day.
Today My eyes were very very sore and dry. i normally would have thought it were allergies, but maybe it was releasing. i have taken alot of binders today. I also swam in a salt water pool..i felt poorly but hwen i got out i was better, increased ciruclation. I am also working on underwater laps..helps with my oxygenation.
I am in hopes to get a tensor soon..keeping my fingers crossed my note gets to vernnon.
Any other suggestions for biotensors?

In health,
Runner
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I rely on my biotenser to help confirm my intuition, when I am choosing binders or practically anything for a condition to treat.

I try not to use it around my family, as it makes them nervous about my sanity! My teens call it my magic wand! Here she goes again..they say!
Don't need the negative vibes!

I have the German one from Bioplasma-Research.

Tel+49 (0) 8342898600
email: [email protected]
www.bioplasma.de

cost: pricy euro 209,24

but worth every penny in my opinion!
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Cooper, I had the same. The tributyl tin oxide is a wood preservatives and can also be spewed from cooling towers.

I grew up across the river from a number of these cooling towers. My Dad moved us because he thought they were dangerous.

Phenyl mercury acetate was used as a preservative in latex paint until sometime in the 90's.

I think you'll find that the foods, molds, fungus and metals will be corrected after you finish the first round. Not that they are gone, but they can start coming out and that gradually the foods will no longer cause a problem.

I started eating wheat right away but overdid it and it is just now, after 8 months, that it really doesn't bother me. Gut is not completely healed however.

Chemicals and metals are still on the move for me and chemicals affect my eyes.

Before I to to bed I take the gylcine that Gigi spoke of, put those wonderful detox foot pads on and sleep quite well.

I used the foot pads last winter but after a couple of months nothing much was coming out. Now, plenty is coming out.

As mentioned, the biotensor is a wonderful tool for testing all!
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
hobo,
Your mucus thing may not be the AI...especially if you have a history of it.

AI can surely help any alleriges, but it is in a deeper level.

When I originally got rid of my seasonal allergies, it was quite by accident! They were severely bad, with Fall and Spring seasonal dripping , headaches, and sneezing hayfever type things.

Before my lyme diagnosis, I did the Dr Hyman style full body detox,"Detox Box" program, Ultra-Prevention, just to feel better and get some energy.

He proposes, that with this detox, each of his patients responds with major health benefits.

I did a three month detox from Feb through April, during lent one year, and was shocked for the first time in my life to not have big time allergies in the Spring. I also felt fantastic.

Have not had them since in three years time! Don't know what exactly had changed, but it was truely amazing!

I did crash the next year with lyme symptoms etc...but never got those allergie symptoms again.

So go with the binders, fibers, juices, broths, etc that are promoted here to push those toxins...as this was a big part of my sinus allergy healing with the Dr. Hyman detox.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
All of us who have taken the AI test so far, except me, had the wheat etc. problems. I attribute my sailing through Lyme Disease somuch more quickly than others to the fact that I had no DNA errors in the food department. My grandfather used to own a big bakery a hundred years ago!

Take a look at the vicious cycle of brain and gut that these food problems can cause. I know we are not autistic, but certainly have many of the symptoms. Leaf through this and learn to understand the nasty things the leaky gut can cause! G. of AI always told me that wheat is the worst. Except "avoiding" does not work, because it simply cannot be avoided unless we stop eating and start living in a bubble.

My husband(closer to 84 than 83) had a bad case of "gut". Dr. K. always kept moaning about it. "something wrong with your gut". My husband's tongue, my own indicator of general health, used to look like the Grand Canyon. Starting with AI, it started to turn into a black grand canyon. Now after six months of AI, it is starting to look pink and losing the roughness and dryness. His blood pressure is nearly normal from extreme 80's over 40's and fainting; his red feet are now pink instead of red, and his blue hands and fingernails are disappearing, and he no longer has cold hand and feet. He walks again and can get out of a chair, be it ever so slowly. No medication of any sort, just 15 drops of informed water. Tell that to some geriatric doctor. I watch it all in amazement.

http://mygoalautism.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/AutismTherapiesMadeEasy.pdf

Take care.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
what the best order to take binders? next to AI drops

i got, trace minerals drops, chorolla, cilantro
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Fifi25,

Do not take cilantro around the drops. Cilantro is the only agent that can get heavy metals out of the Central Nervous System/brain, and that is not what you want to do when doing the drops.
You don't want to take any mobilizing agents, and that's what cilantro is. The drops will start to work and there will be enough mobilizing happening once you get going with them. So just relax about it; drink juices, apple sauce, mousses, soups, not tons of plain water as many people seem to think necessary. Teas are good -

Eat lots of fiber - vegetables, salads, fruits with the peel, potatoes with the peel, and don't forget to add the pectin into some mashed fruits or juices. I posted the link to the pectin we have been using in our house -

I talked about some of these things earlier in this thread. So if you have time, go back and read it.

That would be my suggestion. And try to just roll with it and let the drops do their thing.

Trace minerals are okay to take, but they are not an actual binder.

Chlorella is fine, if you tolerate them well, Start with one tablet or capsule 30 minutes before a meal. And again before going to bed when you don't take food. Some people do not do well with chlorella overall. If that is the case, you might just settle for pectin on some foods or in juices. And charcoal before going to bed. Be sure to take charcoal away from minerals, etc., because it binds to minerals. That is the reason charcoal works well as a binder for the heavy metals that will be leaving your system once you get going with the drops a little further down the road.

When you get further into the drops, you may want to try Glycine - it works for both metals and chemicals. Don't take glycine when you have a protein meal. Take the glycine before going to bed.

Hope I haven't confused you more.

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I am having allergy like symptoms. my eyes are very dry and itchy and the inside of my nasal passages are dry and irritated. (i thought this might be from innhaling gluathione)
i respond to allergies like a child. i get the histamine response, almost like adrenaline.
which i have always found interesting. i have often felt like i have adult onset autism. I really related to what you wrote Gigi.
I am taking binders before bed but still having troubles ssleeping..
today for this first time tonight I got a sense of my higher self ad even though tired felt more emotionally alive than i have in while, which was encourageing.
I naturally gravitate towards juices, smoothies, soups, broths, teas..i think its my body saying, im overloaded take it easy ont he digestive part...so i am experimenting with alot of soups from scratch..blended veggies...soft eggs for protien applesausces and adding in the pectin. i like how it kind of gels and its somewhat soothing on my belly.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
thank you Gigi for all your help, advise & experience, i wish you have a clinic and you will be my doctor. have you ever think about writing a book? do u have a blog?
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
is there a different brand of charcoal?
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
i found this site for activated charcoal, is this the one i should buy?
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
sorry, forgot the link

http://www.morethanalive.com/Activated-Charcoal-Powder
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
I just recived confermation that A1 never recived the third sample that I sent them over a month ago. I sent a $10 bill in with it for postage and I bet that had a play in it not getting there.Since I have been without the drops in more than a month I notice my eyes are not as bright, my ezema is returning and my newly strong and long nails are not so much now.

I plan on sending postage cost through pay pall this time, how would I go about doing that? Thanks,Terri
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Fifi25, The loose charcoal is probably hard to take. Nature's Way has an Activated Charcoal in capsules of 560mg (100 capsules) for about $8.00.
We take from 2 and up when - Have taken up to 6-8.
on and off, whenever we feel it is necessary.

No, I don't have a blog. But I have been posting here since 2000 and if you do a search, you will find many of my posts on a variety of subjects.

Kissis, surprised no one is answering you. I think this is the Paypal form on AI's website
https://allergie-immun.de/Englisch/your_order.html

Hope you get your next drops soon.

Take care.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Fifi25, I can second Gigi's advice about charcoal, as the powder just sticks around your teeth and is a bit of a nuisance, though it is usually much cheaper than capsules,


Carry
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
My second round of drops has just arrived, showing Pentachlorphenole, Phenyl mercury acetate, tributyl tin oxide and 10 unnamed chemicals,

Carry
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
To drink charcoal powder, use a straw, so not to get Black Teeth.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping and all, They do not look for the chemicals on the first round because all others are so dominant and have to be out of the way first. Don't worry - I am sure as everyone else, you will hear about the rest of it all as time moves on.

All the corrections they make causes a change in how our body deals with it. If they checked all systems on the first round, I doubt that we would survive the drops!!!!!

Take care.

[ 07-27-2009, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
I have received my drops and I am happy to report forward motion. My soul needs liberation.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I am on round 3 of the drops. Just near the end. Wednesday will be my last day and then thursday am i send off my sample.
I just thought i would share some of the things that have been happening for me through this process.
I am feeling very flushed through my face for about 1 week now. Almost like I am running a high fever. I did not equate it to the drops, but today i think it was right after i took my first doseage it started again. I feel almost like i have constant hay fever. Stuffy nose, and irritation through the sinuses, eyes very dry. I have been on d-hist and other things to calm down the response (nettles, quercitin, Vit C) butnothing is cutting the mustard.
I also notice that i have a child like response to allergies. My system seems more "hyper" and I have trouble focusing in one area for too long.
This often seems to result in not sleeping no matter what i try. USually binders and detox help this, but lately its worse. I am not getting much relief in this area. I am up half the ite and sleep during the day. This isnt entirely new, but anyhow , thought it was dissipating and now it seems i going through the pattern again.
Just wondering, anyone else feel this?
I also today had a strong chemical taste in mymouth, almost like i had been exposed to windex. I am just curious what others are expeirencing thorugh this process.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Runner, I have had so many surreal symptoms which only have gotten worse these long years, that I caqn't tell if AI is adding or subtracting them.

I'm just praying it will help in the end.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Yesterday I asked everyone around me - do you smell this gasoline/mix with chimney smoke? I smelled it all day long and no one could confirm they smelled the same thing.

I am still detoxing chemicals and various other memories. I used to have the same insomnia problems. We are having summerheat in the 80-90's and once I hit the pillow, afterbeing able to barely read not more than one page, I am in a sound sleep all night.

Be patient. And take as little as possible of concentrated medicines/herbs/supplements. To some of the things you take you may still be allergic to, because most undergo a manufacturing process of some sort. I always remember that people coming to see Dr. K. turned out to be allergic to the majority of "stuff" they brought to the first visit. Not a good idea now when you are trying to correct the dysregulations.

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Thanks Gigi that makes things a lot simpler.
I have kept this in mind, and it makes sense. I am working on weaning off my sleep medicine as well. hopefully i can find a nice way to do this and onto something natural. for i really want AI to see me without being on that.
I do smell alot of things frequently, later on today i smell mens shaving cream. (also very toxic)

Hobokinite, you are from Newnan! My mom is in atlanta..i hope you are surviving the summer heat ok..
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Thanks, Runner. Atlanta gets pretty cooking about now. I'm from NY originally where only August was tough.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Just got my report and 4th round of drops today. The analysis showed 10 chemical substances and 7 energetic blockages.

I think taking drops along with binders and fiber is really helping. I used to have rashes that came and went (mostly they stayed) on my thighs and trunk area. Raised red patches that itched a little, like eczema. For the first time in 3-4 years, they have been gone for several weeks. Just one small patch on one thigh now.

Hoping for more progress to come.

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
HI Hobokinite,
Yes the southeast can be hard, especially when sick. Am on the west coast, and the weather seems more tolerable for sure.
Best of luck in your healing.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Not sure that chlorella is the right binder while on AI. It is not testing well energetically and my husband tried it today. I think it is too active in the extracellular spaces - simply too much detox action that I don't think is right while doing the drops. So be sure you test energetically.

I ran out of pectin and tried Guar Gum which I had in the house. Mixed into fruits and juices - just a little bit - makes a nice "pudding" with good fiber as another binder.

It is H O T in Seattle - the only way to survive is to cool off with the watering wand on the deck..........

Wishing you continued progress too, Nutmeg! You must be on the other side of the mountains?


Take care all.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
This week I am very smell sensitive. I am smelling things that others around me do not.
Specifically car fumes wile driving in a closed car... cigarette smoke from a distance...body odors from people around me, that no one else senses!

My son just had his wisdom teeth removed, and I could not tolerate being near him when he speaks...I was the only one smelling foul smells from his mouth...I panicked that he had an infection! But no one else smells it!

He is cleansing correctly, I have been giving him chlorella... and he is testing for over 100, 3 times a day...also loads of binders, mixed secretly into his smoothies! Sneeky mom as I am. MY kids do not like my healthy protocols! But he is trapped into apple sauce with apple pectin, and smoothies with the pectin, fiber and other goodies tucked away mixed with the fruit!

He also finally began his first set of drops the week of his tooth extraction. Don't know if it was good to begin then, but there was no other choice in his situation. He is in the Armed Forces and on leave for two weeks. They require these teeth out...so I thought it better to do it while at home, so I could care for his health, as I do not trust what would happen to him otherwise.

They would do it for free...but my sanity would not allow this!

That's a whole other topic...related to my emotions.

Anyway, now three of us are on the drops.

[ 07-29-2009, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: lymeparfait ]
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Parfait,I can really relate to what you are writing! except i am smelling and tasting like someone laced my food with roach spray. sometimes its other things. I just hope its coming up and out of the tissues.

good luck with your son..and your desert parfaits sound great.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Thanks Runner...keep posting your interesting reactions.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Thanks, GiGi.

I only take 1-2 chlorella tabs a day, at most. It doesn't agree with me if I take more than that, so I'm honoring that.

Activated charcoal seems to work better, and doesn't seem as harsh, so I have increased that after meals.

I mix my apple pectin in a little applesauce along with a small scoop of Detoxifiber by Garden of Life.

Herr G. wrote a nice letter with my report.

I had reported on my list that many of my symptoms were still increasing, and he said not to give up hope (I hadn't, at all) and that it would take some time to correct all the errors and allow my body to get back to balance.

You are correct, GiGi--I'm on the other side of the mountains from you. In the desert we are more used to this heat and sun than you are, but it has been beastly here as well.

At least we are more prepared for dealing with it, but it has been dragging on for weeks. Enough!

Stay cool!

Nutmeg
 

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Posted by mati (Member # 15233) on :
 
I'm going to give these drops a go, but first, am working on my general health,improving my ability to detox and strengthening my endo system, having decided against hormones. I am not going to go for photons yet.

I am following the advice of Andreas Moritz in his Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvination and Ayervedic medicine.

Good start! I body brush and pull oil when I wake up, then full body massage with olive oil and exercise in front of my open windows in the early morning sun, lying in it afterwards for 20 mins naked. Next comes the far-infrared sauna and then a shower. A glass of warm water and lemon juice then breakfast. I am following his dietary instructions and have given up all bad foods.

Today I am feeling better. This is an improvement from wanting to sleep all of the time.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi just finished round #3. Round 2 i didnt fully complete due to a spill but i think this was still round 3.
I feel the drops are supportive. It will be interesting to note my symptoms over the next few days. But i think i actually feel better on the drops. I am nearly bedridden, but i feel they help with the detoxing. My nervous system is very impacted. In some ways i feel i am dealing on a different playing field than my normal symptoms with lyme and heavy metals due to the pesticide exposure i had in the spring. I think i will get a journal just for AI. and reallykeep track. when we are in our day to day its easy to loose track, but looking back over the months one can really determine progress..
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Mati, which foods are considered "bad foods" by Andreas Moritz? Alwasy interested learning more.

Glad you found what helps you.

Take care.
 

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Posted by mati (Member # 15233) on :
 
Thanks GiGi

After years of avoiding sugar, I had started to eat it since moving to Germany and the delicious cakes! Now I have given it up. He also says no alcohol or meat and various other restrictions according to body type. Moritz is German, I did not know that before, for others who do not know either. I have found such a great deal more understanding here over health awareness than there is in the UK. The Bioladens are great!

Due to my relaxed eating habits, levels of inflamation had increased quite a bit and now they are going down which is making me feel better. My ankle swelling has gone right down which means better kidney function. I had forgotten how important a good diet is. If anyone finds it difficult to give up unhealthy things, a read of Moritz's book soon cures that!

His main thing though is gall and liver cleanses to remove stones.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
HI Mati,
Would you mind sharing what foods he recommends for protein? Also, have you tried a liver/gallbladder flush?
Thanks for any information.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I am a bit afraid to do a Liver gallbladder flush..so i have been using castor oil packs for 30-60 mins most nites of the week.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Charcoal should be taken 30 minutes b e f o r e meals and again at bedtime. If you take it following the meal, it will pick up all the good minerals - the ones you really want to keep and are necessary for detoxing.

Another good binder is ground flaxseed.

I always remember Dr. K. when referring to "no meat" that it is very difficult to avoid protein malnutrition. I have never managed to even figure out how to do this right without using meats. He also remarks that he has rarely seen a healthy vegetarian. Meat is rich in zinc, b-vitamins, and sulfur-containing amino acids. No meat means missing some important vitamins and minerals. Digestion can be more of a problem on a no-meat diet. Even worse when trying to eliminate toxic heavy metals. I think that really has to be thought through very carefully. If ill, getting these amino acids from nuts, etc. is difficult.

All of it becomes even more of a problem if KPU is a factor when zinc, B6, etc. is also missing.

Bedtime ......

Take care.
 

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Posted by mati (Member # 15233) on :
 
Hi runner21

Each diet for the three body types, has different recommendations, two of the types can have some dairy products and most protein coming from mixing nuts seeds and beans with rice for example. No soy. I don't feel like eating meat at the moment, but if I do feel the need for more protein, it will probably be small amounts of wild salmon after I muscle test it. I have always felt that I do not get enough protein on a semi vegan diet. I will give it a go though. Maybe it will just be for a year or so.

I have never done any flushing though I did the humaworm bowel cleanse once. It was too harsh. Moritz's theory is that we cannot heal if we have a liver and gall bladder full of stones, which a lot of us have and that once they are out, our healing really improves drastically.

Another thing he says, which nearly freaked me out at first, is that we must love our illness!!!!!! However I see the sense of this now that I have been thinking about it. He says that hating it and fighting against it stops us healing. Instead we should look upon it as a wonderful oportunity to gain control of our destiny.

Well losing all of my health, career prospects, my family, most of my friends and a heck of a lot of money to these little critters, and then loving them is a hard pill to swollow. But I am starting to see the sense of it.

The daily body massage is having an effect in loving my body more.

I was really stuck for a year, in despair really of not being able to find anyone to help me and with the seemingly unsolvable state of my endo system and my inability to take steriods. This book has given me hope however, and faith in the healing process within, and trust in the desire of my God to help me grow into a higher level of healing that I have been able to achieve in the past.

I may always have the little critters, but that does not sound so frightening now. Anyway, life is today. My body can limit the amount of damage they do and I can be in control. Maybe they will just stay till I learn more from them. They can be our best teachers according to Moritz.

Well we'll see!
 

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Posted by mati (Member # 15233) on :
 
Have just noticed your comments on meat GiGi.

This diet is for healing the body. Maybe lomg term no meat or fish can cause problems although a lot of them I think is because of ignorance on what a healthy veggie diet is, most of the vegetarians or vegans that I have met do not eat a healthy diet and yes they do not look good. It is worse to eat a bad veggie diet than a bad carnivorous one. On the other side I have seen extrememly healthy looking vegans and macrobiotics, and those are not the ones that a doctor will normally see.

Maybe a sick person really needs digestive enzymes to digest vegetable matter alone. I will probably do this. Anyway, I think that it is worth trying and especially to listen to our bodies more. If I crave flesh then certainly I will eat it but in lesser amounts. I do think we eat too much of it and not the healthy kind.

mati
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Anyone else seeing parsites released while on AI? I know that AI works at a deeper level, and does not address the parasites, but during my recent ART testing, my ND found that heavy metals, specifically mercury, was moving and releasing.

I have not been trying to release it!

She said this could cause the parasites leaving.

My AI Therapy did not mention heavy metals yet on my reports, only unknown chemicals on the 4th round I just finished. Has anoone else tested for metals releasing on AI in an early round?

Would love to hear any others with these parasite sightings!
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see parasites. As the immune systems learns to recognize substances it does not need, it will work to eliminate them.

Did you show any metal errors on the first test results (16page report) under 6.1, with red x's under certain metals. Most people who take the test do have these metal allergies/errors and that is why the body has not been able to release them. It simply did not recognize them as toxins and stored them away somewhere - in a joint or central nervous system, wherever.

So possibly your body is now alert to these toxic substances and does away with them - releases them. This is where I try to be on the alert with binders as they come down the pike to move them out effectively. Sometimes our digestive system is not quite up to do it all on its own yet, especially with leaky gut problems that are not quite healed yet.

It sounds like things are working for you.

Parasites leave when the terrain starts to get healthier just as some of the other organisms that don't belong there either. Some of the parasites are so tiny, they are not visible with the naked eye. Parasites are the "knights in shining armor" as Dr. K. calls them -- they are holding on to much that does not belong in our body. They go - others go.

LP, would be curious to hear what your first test showed re toxic metals?

Take care.
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
I got my first round of drops but there was nothing on what they found from my saliva sample. I just got a little booklet which is all in German. Is this what everyone else is getting? thanks
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Minerva, check your e-mail. They often send it as an attachment by e-mail rather than in the package with the drops. If not, send them an e-mail asking for the 16-page report. It is in English.

Take care.

[ 07-31-2009, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 
Hi folks

I just got my first report back from AI and it is very interesting.

I have a lot of blocks, about half in the yellow zone and half in the red zone and one in the green, yay! :-) Worst one seems to be the secondary energy supply (intestines) which is a 10. The one normal result is to do with bioenergetic deficiency.

Some metals showed up ...copper, lead and nickel but not mercury...I do have mercury but I know that can show up later on. 6 fungi, 3 mucor ones and 3 pencillin.

I have allergies to wheat, gluten, soy and corn. I know that I am allergic to dairy but that did not show up so I am not sure what to make of that. I dont eat soy or corn either.

I have the syphilis, tuberculinum & medorrhinium miasms.

Thyroid and pancreas are the only blocked glands - not adrenals which is what I expected as mine are quite weak.

Also have an enzyme dysfunction.

I have 6 blockages from my subconscious and 9 inherited soul blockages.

Is there any way for people to compare reports like in a file or something, I got my sent to me in a pdf so I can post it for people to see. Would love to compare with others.

Also does anyone know how they come to their conclusions, sorry if ive missed this on the thread ... do they use radionics or dowsing?

I havent ordered my drops yet but hope to do so soon.

Take care.

[ 08-01-2009, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: shimmy ]
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Enzymes are the catalyst and the base for the total metabolism. If that part is dysfunctional, it affects many areas.

It might help you to go and do some Babelfish translating to understand the therapy better. It is difficult to explain in a sentence or two, and I am still learning.

On the run -

Take care.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Shimmy, my report is very similar to yours as well as most others here. Many are strikingly close.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Hi Shimmy,

Mine was practically identical, though mercury did show; also all 4 miasms and pineal gland in addition to thyroid and pancreas.....

....like you, I was expecting adrenals to show after the recent crisis, but perhaps there is a reason for them not showing at this time.

Good luck with the treatment.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
As it turns out, no round 8 was needed. I received a final report in the mail today from AI saying that all the corrections have been made. It will take time for the body to resolve remaining issues now that the corrections are made, but no further drops are required according to AI.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Congrats Scott. Let us know if it all pans out now. I've been very interested to hear if anyone in the US ever clears it all. It'll be intriguing to see if your remaining issues dissolve in the next few months. Hopefully they do.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Great News Scott!

Looking forward to hearing any corrections you can tell us that you experience!

Gigi, as far as metals, my original results showed none! Although I am positive I have loads of Mercury, as I had over 60 mercury amalgams in my youth. I actually remember swallowing loads of the amalgam debris!

It never appeared in any form of testing I had , except ART. It's just interesting that it is now moving. Today I had a very stiff neck and upper back shoulder area, for no reason. This is not my usually malady. It reminded me of having the same pains in my youth, when I could not move my neck. This same thing happened to me when I contracted lyme.

I just think things are moving!

lp
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
LP, as long as you were not allergic to any of the toxic metals, the body was able to dispose of them all along. You are fortunate after having had that many fillings. The major release is probably tied to emotional releases, past and present. Probably the major releases happen when the inherited toxins and miasms are lifted. I
think we underestimate that

With ART we can determine that the toxic metal is in the body, where it is in the body, but we cannot determine how much is remaining in the body.

Hope you can just flow with it and get better and better.

Take care.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Scott, That's great news. Did they send you a complete new set of results so you can compare and see where the improvements are?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Since I"m moving metals, I would like to add Glycine to my arsenal of binders. What is the brand of choice? My local health food stores do not have it in stock.

Is it in capsule or powder form?

I'm not nervous about the metals/parasites moving...just excited something else is happening that I actually notice related to the AI.

If I do not have any metals showing up in the original report, do they show up later, or does the AI team just use the original report to base the pregression of all the Therapies on? Thanks!
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
I use NOW powdered form.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Scott, but do you feel any better?
 

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Posted by shimmy (Member # 15883) on :
 
Thanks Gigi, Seekhelp and Carry for your replies,

I agree with you about the enzymes Gigi, everything goes down the pan when we become deficient or they dont work properly. I know that metals severely disrupt enzyme function so its not surprising at all that I have a problem in that area. Its funny because Ive been taking a very high dose of proteolytic enzymes the past few weeks to help deal with viruses and Ive been feeling loads better from those, although I am still stuggling a lot too at times and still have a way to go.

I think I get the gist of the therapy, it sounds very much like NES or FCT, I was just wondering how they do the test but will email them to ask.

Seekhelp & Carry its interesting that we have very similar profiles, and to be honest it does make me question the testing... but I guess at the end of the day if the drops help that is the main thing.

Great news Scott, I hope the therapy was worth it for you and that you continue to have improvements as time goes on.

I'm looking forward to starting the drops.

Best wishes

Anne
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Hi Scott,

That's good news....at least I'm assuming it is!

Do you feel at this stage that you are in a position to evaluate how helpful the therapy has been for you?

I know it is hard to do that when you are trying other things too, and also accept that the body may continue to adapt to the 're-programming' for a while yet,

Best Wishes,

Carry
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Wow Scott, how are you feeling?
 

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Posted by ping (Member # 6974) on :
 
Congratulations Scott! Please keep in touch with all of us and let us know how things proceed from here.

LP - The stiffness that you report in your back and neck sounds like the exact same thing I experienced when I was moving metals around due to eating loads of cooked cilantro. Be careful. As a matter of fact, I'm feeling that way a bit myself after the first round. Very stiff.

Expecting my second round to arrive in ~ 1 week.

ping
"We are more than containers for Lyme"
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Round 1 so far..Not sure but my entire facial area.. sinuses have been burning, neck cracking dizzy and a mild acne around my nose. Could be allergies but it feels like something is mobilizing. I do know for a fact i had amalgams removed before there was a protocol 20 years ago. Also the type of mercury that showed up is what used to be in the latex paints I used to use.

Lastly.... I have huge bags under my eyes...triple bags and my eyeballs seem sticky.

[ 08-05-2009, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Cooper ]
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
I want to hear Scott's reply to.
 

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Posted by Faith6 (Member # 14072) on :
 
I am intrested in AI and have been watching this thread. This quote really confuses me. AI sounded scientific, but this makes it sound more spiritual....

'I have 6 blockages from my subconscious and 9 inherited soul blockages'

Anyone?
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I think AI is an energetic treatment and addresses all levels.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
I am out of drops after using them for `10 days. I have emailed AI several times with no reply. I have taken the remedy as they said... 5 drops 3 times a days. No spillage... Gigi...? any one...they dont answer emails.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Cooper, I can't see how that is possible. Did you cut off the tip or somehow make a really big opening at the top?

I have never come close to having mine be more than 2/3 empty. Always plenty left over making an opening at the top with the end of a paper clip.

Have you tried faxing or calling?

Faith6 - just as we can inherit talents, memory of trauma can be stored and passed on from ancestors.

There is much more to us, to health and to illness than just science.

If you use translategoogle, you can read more about this on their website. The English version is not as extensive.
 

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Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
 
I actually kind of miss the drops. Was looking forward to round 8.

They do send final results that compares the original red/yellow/green bar items so you can see before and after. Most were clearly better; a few were worse.

It says it take 1 year for every 10 years of illness after you are done for the changes to have their full regulatory effect on the body.

I was able to do US Biotek Testing before and during AI and it showed a strong shift in detoxification.

Do I feel physically better after AI? No.

Would I do it again? Yes.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
My husband for several days has been walking on his own power, without any support from me
or any walking gadget.
This has been a tremendous change and improvement, starting with blood pressure regulation and better circulation and many other small changes that are hard to define.

We quit all photon treatments a while after returning home from Germany last summer (my husband was able to get around), when we realized he was going further downhill faster than I could watch. I really started to worry when I turned bad myself who had been running well for several years.

My own take on this: Photons mobilize things we expect and things we are not aware of. Mobilization does not mean elimination when it comes to neurotoxins. They are merely let loose throughout the body, a few may depart, the rest gets buried again. Unfortunatley, they can settle in worse places. It is worse when allergic to many substances which the body does not recognize and is unable to deal with.

We then started AI in January 09. Energetically I tested positive for every pathogen I could think of, vaccines, etc. and literally thought I was at the end of my rope. I am back to my own self again after six months of AI.

Our son started AI in March 09. He does not have Lyme. Stuffy head/ears/nose/throat/snoring since mid teens.. Now 40. He is vastly improved in all, and just waiting for bottle #5. Symptoms that remain are so minor, that he would not have done AI if that is all he had to live with. But he realizes having watched his father at rock bottom, unable to move. Two days ago, father got up, walked into the entry and opened the front door to let son and family in. I had been exploring caretakers because I could no longer be on the alert every minute day and night. Our wonderful PCP arranged to have someone on his staff solicit our home and recommend assisted living. Neptune Society sent us a brochure. If you don't know what they do, look it up.

Success with AI? I am so tickled.

All I can say, stick with it.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cooper, when you write them: Make sure you include your full name and the number under which they carry your name which they show at the top, first page, of your first test results.

You took huge drops or you are not counting right. We always have at least a portion of the little bottle left over.

You probably took more than you should have. No wonder you complained the other day about the reactions. No damage done, but more is definitely not better in this type of therapy. When people have strong reactions, they advise to take less. Whispering the information to the system.

I would just send them a new saliva sample and answer the sheet where they ask you what has gotten better, what symptoms have gotten worse, and symptoms remaining.

They are not staffed to answer many e-mails - if they were, we would pay twice as much for the tests. Just the fact that they don't speak enough English to explain all that Nano explained to you above - is probably one reason you have not heard back. It's done - so send them your next sample, etc. Be sure to not cut off more than about 1-2 millimeters off the bottle top. I usually cut the minimum, and if the drops come out easily fine; if not, I cut of another millimeter, until the drops flow easy enough to where I don't have to squeeze too hard.

Be sure that when you react like you described the other day that you take enough binders. All the information is here somewhere on this thread.
Just take the time to read through it. Possibly learn to test yourself with an inexpensive tensor. Runner I think is learning it now. That really helps. We all have to do our part and I still learn more every day.

Don't mean to lecture. Just want to help you.

Take care.


Everybody please note that I am not being paid by anybody for anything I do and have done on this board for over ten years. This board existed under a different name in 1999. I am getting really tired of the remarks that are being floated and don't get any financial benefits by doing what I do. I do get invited by Dr. K. to his seminars - thank God - so at least when I have the time to attend, I can learn more of what he is discovering and changing - --- nobody has written the final book on this or any other chronic disease. It is an ongoing learning process.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Makes sense Scott that it might take a year for the body to fully carry out its functions and to detoxify.
Maybe it would liken to an exposure. The law of toxicology, remove the source, then heal. So maybe removing and then the body has to catch up..
I miss my drops already and its been a week without them.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
and wanted to add Great News Gigi, i am glad you are so encouraged..I like how you said it whispers into the system..i really think its the only way to absorb.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Well, you guys nailed it...I think I took off too big a cut when I cut the tip. I hope I didn't screw up the process. The cool thing is there is a definite subtle shift in my reactivity to perfumes. I feel a burning swirling deep in both nasal sinuses. I pray this horrible way of living will dissipate and I can be free of chemical allergies. It is such a silent suffering. Thanks Gigi.. I dont take it at all as lecturing but clear no nonsense fact sharing.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I agree with Cooper i like the clear no nonsense part. But i know it comes from deep suffering..and it is authentic by nature.

I think the very same thing happened to me cooper on my second round. i must have cut too much of the tip off..i didnt complete the full round. anyway i told Dr. G and he sent me the third bottle. I also noticed i got more reactions from the first and third bottle. vivid dream state adn now i feel a sense of aliveness the past two days i have not had in ages. anyway i dont want to burn the candle, but hey, this feels good. Now i just hope i can sleep.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Cheers Runner... I am grateful to all the pioneers here willing to think the world isn't flat. An effort and a deep inner strength to choose no surrender.... life is in the risk!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
No the world is not flat nor is it black and white. And also, for laughs, who cares if Gigi is getting paid. If i had the money, i would pay for the information... I consider it valuable and i appreciate it so much. it brought a new way for me to look at illness and the body at a very young age.
Who keeps bringing this up? in my humble opinion, she is serves as a messanger for many of us who dont have access to the seminars and cutting information that comes from europe and other places. I have learned from her over the years and others who realize this illness is not just about lyme disease, but so much more. the more we pollute the planet the sicker we become..like she said this is trial and error. The information is valuable and often is born out of searching years, suffering, trial and error, and a deep yearning to get well and help others in the meantime. It genuine, and she is not getting paid by anyone.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
Perhaps, Scott and the others, one day, we will wake up and just feel better. Who knows what we did to get there. That's what I'm hoping for -- a normal life.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well I finaly got my forth dose yesterday. It has been almost 2 monthes sice my last dose due to A1 not recieving my last sample.
So last night I took 5 drops before bed, It was late in the day when I got the mail " Anyway I was sound asleep when bam! my dormant Trigeminal Neralgia struck ,which Im sure was a reaction to the drops.I am going to grin and bare it and keep going, I have no dought there helping me but I wish this damn pain would go away allready.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Not sure if this has been said before:

Any pain when taking the drops can be caused by the memory of the pain. Several bottles ago, I had a severe hip pain - and my first thought was ...that's all I need right now! Then I remembered I had fallen on it years ago and walked on crutches for several weeks. Same hip. The pain lasted for exactly 2 days and then it was gone just the way it came.

When I talked to AI - these type of memory pains can last 3-4 days.

We store our memory in the DNA - that's why it is so important not to continue endlessly to stay exposed to the Lyme drama. Many people may have had it, but it's long gone. But the memory remains if you keep it alive by steady exposure to thinking Lyme. It's hard to do - but I have not thought of ever having Lyme or fearing Lyme for several years. What we are dealing with is the aftereffects of the Lyme and then some. Don't feed the memory.

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I would suggest that you read some of the old comments re "are the allergies gone - corrected - lifted? etc. The minute they are found as the incorrect polarity, the switch to the right polarity is made and the signal for the body to react the way is made. At that point the allergy alarm is eliminated, and the body can then start to react to these substances the way it should and either no longer react or start to eliminate the toxin.

This latter part is what takes time, and even though Scott has finished and no errors are found at this time, his body is very much in a healing state disposing of the accumulated toxins. And the more you have taken on of the incompatible stuff, the longer it takes to eliminate it from the body.

That is also one of the reasons they are stressing to do only one therapy and not to get the body into a state of confusion where it has to end up dealing with other fronts. AI may take care of some if we give it time. This PSP therapy is not a biochemical treatment. It is strictly an electromagnetic treatment, and if you could tune into several tv channels at the same time, you wouldn't be able to get the full benefit of the one you really would like to enjoy.
Or liken it to receiving several radio stations at the same time ---

They warned us more than once - stick with this, be sure you have good elimination - and don't add more to the body's load which it most likely cannot handle in its present state. Put fear to rest and let the drops happen -- . This is what AI told me again and again.

Take care.
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
gigi
I still haven't heard from AI about on my report. It took over a month to get my drops and its been a week since I got them (22 days since they sent them) with no written material.

Are others having such a long turn around?

I thought you had mentioned somewhere that we could send our next samples in early because of the delay but I couldn't find the comment. I do get that it takes time...just curious if this is the norm?

Day 3 of drops. 1st round. very tried. dreams more vivid and a bit disturbing.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Minerva, have you sent them an e-mail telling them that you did not get the report. Have you had any e-mail from them? They often send the first 16-page report as an attachment by e-mail.
It is easily missed.

If you have no test results, send them an e-mail.
Be sure you use the correct e-mail address:

[email protected]

If you definitely did not get it from them in an earlier e-mail, I will be calling them tonight to check on something for others. Send me you name and the number they wrote on the little plastic envelop containing the small bottle - . [email protected] and I will ask them about it for you.

My whole turn-around to them is about 20 days.
Right now is High Holiday Vacation time in Germany - the butcher shuts down and the baker shuts down and one pharmacy stays open - Maybe they took a couple of days off to rest. It is a small company and they answer the phone every time I call. I have never not gotten an answer or a recording. So maybe they are off for a few days.

Send me your info and I will check.

Take care.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well Im happy to report I took 5 drops at 3 PM and so far so good, my mouth pain is almost gone. One thing I have noticed from this round wich I have never expierenced since taking the drops, today I feel like a took a mega dose of speed, usually I am so tired from the drops but this energy is fantastic, although I am afraid to take another dose at bedtime for fear of not being able to sleep.
Thank's Ping for the kind words and Gigi it was very comforting and intresting to hear about the pain time line and memory of it.

I have always been a lightweight with any drug or supliment, litterly too, I weigh only 100 plds. I think since yesturday I only took one dose I am going to stick to one time today also but tomorro I will at least increase the dosing by one more.( A1 once told me, taking the drops two times a day would surfice if I was unable to take more.)
 

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Posted by linky123 (Member # 19974) on :
 
I am quite interested in the AI tx.

Is a person required to take detoxing agents along with the drops,

or are they supposed to work by themselves to release the body of these substances?

I am extremely allergic to most medicines and cannot tolerate any abxs, so I am hoping this may help me.

My allergies and asthma are getting worse every day and I'm beginning to get really worried.

My whole family is positive for lyme. Do most lymies improve with this tx?

Right now we are just taking vitamin and mineral supps, along with diflucan and nystatin for yeast.

Would we be required to stop all of the above to make the tx work properly?

This all seems so overwhelming.

Is all that's required is a blood drop or saliva and they can tell what allergies need to be addressed?

Sorry to hit you guys with so many rapid-fire questions.

I tried to read as much of the thread as I could, but have severe headaches and can only read so much on the computer.

I am both intrigued and confused!

Any clarification would be appreciated.

Thanks everybody!

Linky
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Linky, you can read this post, Gigi posted alot of information on AI. what to take, what not to take, etc..
Basically, it is best if you only take what you absolutely have to (meds) in order to get the full benefit of the treatment from what i understand. Also have the binders on board..that is mentioned many times on here (charcoal, clay , pectin, alginates, chlorella, etc) It is best to have someone energetically test you to see what you need most.
THe test is energetic, and works energetically.
It is based on a saliva sample (witness) that you will send into AI, along with your symptom list.
AI does work with lyme. Often when the body regulates itself and is operating in the correct polarity, lyme is not so much of an issue.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Talked with Heinz Grundmeyer last night. I told him that my husband was doing so much better and he was pleased. These people deserve an awared just for their patience. I called them many times crying when I started to feel so miserable after the Bionic and of course most of all because of the fear my husband would not make it off the ground any more.

I asked him also what to do him when they send the note that they cannot find any dysregulations any longer, but like Scott, people still have issues: He said to wait 2-3 months and then to send in another sample. It is often the case that they will then find something at that point.
So try to remember that.

I had also written them recently
pushing them for the translation of a booklet they have "Information to Clients" which I received in German early on. They told me that they just started to have it translated and that it will be available soon. It is very helpful explaining the meaning of the different sections of the test, and I know you will be able to understand things a bit better. He told me they will let me know when it is ready. Don't know if they will charge a small amount for it.

He repeated again that the hardest part for them is to convince the people that they should stick with the therapy even when things take time. or changes are so small. But it is important not to take things that will add more confusion to the system or to do other therapies at the same time, unless they are really necessary. I wrote about this before. After all, you don't want to add more errors by taking things the body has a problem with while trying to fix everything else.

They were very pleased that my husband is doing so much better and we are now waiting for #8. We went to physical therapy yesterday and the fellow working with him remarked about the visible difference. As I am sitting here at the computer, my husband just walked by heading for the shower! A few weeks ago I had to get him out of bed - try roll out a deadweight - into a wheelchair, etc. I was exhausted before the day really started!

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Linky, most answers are on this thread and on their website.

Please note: I have seen many of the test results from people here and others who are doing it. Every one with a chronic disease turned up to be allergic to all fungi and mucor. That means the body is unable to recognize fungi as a toxin and therefore cannot act against it. I am sure you can take all the nystatins and diflucans and it is not going to change that unless the error is corrected and the allergies removed.

Most people were also allergic to all the foods containing wheat, soy and corn, plus some others.

Most people were also allergic to the most toxic metals.

Getting well is very difficultires when the immune system is not functional, and that is what AI is trying to correct.

www.allergie-immun.de clicking on "English"
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
GiGi or anyone,

About wheat allergy, do you think a long-standing wheat allergy could eventually cause enough damage to the gut to turn into gluten intolerance/celiac disease?

Also, could AI eventually clear up gluten intolerance, or is the process strictly related to allergic responses?

Not a problem with me, as far as I know, but I've been wondering if AI could help people overcome gluten intolerance and celiac disease.

Thanks for any thoughts,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Yes, a wheat allergy leads to leaky gut.

AI has published a study of some 200 people which can be ordered from them. Mine shows that they have a 100% sucess with wheat allergies. They show in that study l male and 5 females suffering with Celiac. All 5 females had no longer any problems after therapy; one male had some problems left. Of the six people who did the Therapy, 4 said they suffered with Celiac, 2 called it gluten intolerance.

These facts were what impressed me the most when I first made inquiries from AI and practitioners about the results of AI. So, yes, this therapy works for most people with gluten intolerance ---

A leaky gut will take a few months to heal. This is what I am told by the people I consulted. So even if AI no longer finds any errors to correct, it will take some time for the body to heal and symptoms disappear.

Take care.


P.S. of all the people whom I have followed with this AI test, so far I was the only one that had no wheat or any other food allergies. This I am sure is one reason why I got well from Lyme rather quickly. Health starts in the gut. Longterm Abx does not promote a healthy gut.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
GiGi--

Somehow, I've lost your email address.

I need an ENGLISH copy (pdf) or a link to the Client Information handbook that AI sends in German with the first set of drops.

I'm sure you've posted this somewhere, but I can't find it!!

Please PM me or post a link here.

Love,

Cass A
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cass A,

The English version of the Client Info is not available yet. It is in the process of translation.

The German version is mailed (sometimes) with the first drops. It is not on their website - no link for it.

You will need to send them an e-mail and ask them to send you one, if you want the German version.

Take care.
 

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Posted by linky123 (Member # 19974) on :
 
Hi Runner and Gigi,

What do I have to do to get 'energetically tested?'

Is that the blood/saliva test that AI requires, or is there something else a person needs to do?

Do you consult a naturopathic-type practitioner first?

How would I go about finding someone?

I'm sorry for all the dumb questions, but I have never heard of this.

I'd be willing to give it a try.

I have read through a good bit of the thread, but am still somewhat confused. (I'll blame that on the lyme.)

Thanks for your responses and info!

Linky
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Linky,
You would start by sending AI your saliva sample and your pay the fee via pay pal. Spit on a tissue first thing in the morning before you take anything. wrap it in a foil and mail it to ai.

It would be helpful to have someone muscles test you on your supplements and binders.
Good luck.
 

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Posted by linky123 (Member # 19974) on :
 
Ok, how do I go about getting the muscle testing?

Thanks.

Linky
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, it's working! The body is working.

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Ping, i also have the exhaustion.
I am having vivid dream states from earlychildhood centered around school. I find ths very interesting but it was a trauma for me around age 12. I want to start an AI diary, and record my dreams, symtpoms, etc..
Anyway, good luck with yourdrops.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
The more I read this stuff, the more I want to do this treatment. It sounds so interesting.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
My husband is still walking, but I had to pull every bottle and container today from the metal arsenal that I have. I rubbed him with cilantro on the occiput, the omentum, and a few other liquids that tested positive on some chosen areas. I hope you young people have an easier time and the energy for the body to pull it (the toxins) through. Don't know what I would do without a tensor! At least I can figure out what is happening.

If I feel things on the move, I head out into the yard and do a few rows of spading and weeding and wheelbarreling, and that is the equivalent of jumping rope or the trampoline. But it moves things.

Seekhelp, I don't think you would lose on this therapy. But if you are really sick, come prepared with patience.

Have a lovely Sunday - and

Take care.
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
Gigi
I just wanted to say THANK YOU for taking the time and energy to help me out. I am a decent "researcher" but I think the lyme brain thing often wins out Sometimes things seem difficult to see or digest.
Hence, asking things that are the AI site that may not pop. I appreciate that you keep responding to questions and show support.
Hopefully, I will get my report this week and find out what they found. best wishes
Day 6 of 1st drops.
Still crazy intense dreams
Emotionally a bit more stable
exhausted

,Best wishes
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Here here on the thanks to Gigi!!!! Don't know how I would get through this without her advice and support.

Seven months of doing A I and I thought I had done some detoxing with prior rounds. Perhaps, but NEVER the likes of what is going on now.

Mopping up the toxins has been a full time job for the past few days.

Wish I could just go dig in the garden to keep things moving but I have to do things like that along with the arsenal Gigi mentioned.

Doing Dr. Natura cleanse at the moment. It is much more powerful for pulling toxins than I ever imagined.

Had a snag with the mail and round 6 never arrived so it is being re-sent. It has been over a month since I stopped round 5. Clearly it is still working.

Enjoy your day.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
ping - I don't think you missed anything. I am doing the cleanse because I was not eliminating well - counterproductive to say the least.

Don't know what the mark near you arm is but I've had all sorts of breakouts. The stuff gets out any way it can and often through the skin.

I think others have mentioned an increase with various skin eruptions as well.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Ping,
My daughter has the same type of rash under her arms...which she said was razor burn...but we know better. It almost lookes like mosquito bites or mini hives in a cluster.

Hoping it clears up as time goes by, but it is hard to get her to take the binders or any cleansers on a regular basis when needed.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Ping, That is different than my daughter's, but most likely something related to detox with the skin.
 

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Posted by linky123 (Member # 19974) on :
 
Does anyone use Detoxamin to remove metals while using this treatment.

I know it is supposed to be quite effective at chelating metals.

Just don't know if it's compatible with this protocol?

Linky
 

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Posted by Dawn in VA (Member # 9693) on :
 
Guys, does AI tell you what (or at what frequencies, etc.) they've put in your drops? Does anyone have a list they wouldn't mind PM-ing or sharing here?

I read their entire website today for the first time and couldn't find anything like that.
 

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Posted by minerva (Member # 20410) on :
 
I finally got my report ....I can say I wasn't expecting something so detailed.

My emotions have flatten out a bit since I started taking it. My dad died last month, after I ve been taking care of him for years. I feel the loss of my father deeply even if I knew it was coming.

I went from crying all the time to sadness and tears here and there. It changed the day I started taking the drops and has continued since.

It may be just a normal stage of grief but it does't seem so. I am glad not to be so emotionally upset. I need to feel my emotions and grief but I can also feel the damage that type of emotional upheaval causes in my body.
I can feel my immune system lowering with it.

Time will tell how it all plays out. I am glad so far that I have started AI.

best wishes to all.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
I'm so sorry to hear about your dad, Minerva and I don't think it's any easier really when you know it's coming. I still cry sometimes when I think of MY dad and he died 14 years ago now.

I'm very pleased that the drops may be helping you handle your grief.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Linky, I asked Gigi about this the detoximin, she felt it was too much. Again, the body dosnt recognize it nor know what to do with it.
I thought i was responding positively to low dose EDTA suppositories, but i have back ed off now. I think if you hone into your body and pay attention you might feel it. but for now , it feels too much fo rme. I feel i am in a resting space and the binders are testing high for me at this point..but as you know, tings can change.
Good luck
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
Ping - mailbox cleaned out - thanks.

I rarely test for more than 1/4 tsp of glycine but sometimes I test for it more than once a day (not often).

Can you explain more about it not doing the trick? Maybe it's not the appropriate thing for that moment. Do you have a way to test things?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Linky, Detoxamin contains ingredients known and not published. I would not use anything that possibly adds more to the body burden before all errors and misinterpretations of the body are corrected. We are trying to get rid of all the stuff we have taken that helped create the problems we are facing. That is my take on it and that is why AI is recommending not to take agents while on the therapy. I don't want to undo anything that they so laboriously try to fix. It takes many layers to get through the whole system to find all the errors, the sum of all errors, that have caused us to be chronic.
And really, I don't want to chelate while doing the drops --- they are just cleaning up the roadways, the wrong directions, and the damage and roadblocks caused by all that ---- why bring in more of what I am sure are still puzzles to the body, especially on the earlier rounds of the therapy?

Ping, I take about a teaspoon or a bit more of glycine - I test with tensor and test for the amount. It does not test every day and neither does charcoal. And sometimes I get lazy and take nothing.
Maybe you could help yourself by learning a testing technique. It helps me so much - and it gives me a clue as to what is going on in the body.

Dawn, AI is searching for incorrect electromagnetic patterns which are then changed into the correct polarity. The correct polarity is imprinted in water = PSP drops. These patterns create electromagnetic impulses which the cells are using to change the energy potential of the cell in order to recognize matter for what it is.

I wonder how mannnnyyyy frequencies our different organs put out at different times of the day and under different influences and circumsances. I don't think they work with light or frequencies per se.

I have asked many questions and they have tried to explain. But I leave them to their work and respect it, because the results are amazing.

Take care all.
 

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Posted by fifi25 (Member # 16675) on :
 
i want to ask, when u take apple pectin,

can u added to hot water with lemon?

can u added to salty water?

how can u use it?

any recipe?

thank you all
 

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Posted by farraday (Member # 21494) on :
 
I have been trying to read this thread and having trouble....reading is tough for me. Then I remembered that a friend in Canada gave me a set of something called "Living Light Essences" from Living Light Energies. There are 25 different bottles of drops that are derived from various crystals. They retail for $400.

Each one has a different name...some of gems, some of other things. Are these drops similar to the A1 drops? I am supposed to energy test (I don't know how) to see which drops to use.

They have been sitting in a closet. Anyone know what they are and how to use them? Is there a website I could consult? Boy, is this confusing!

My brainfog is pretty severe. Maybe I need to wait until I am more awake to delve into this. Any advice? Where to start??? Are these drops of value or should I just get rid of them?
 

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Posted by Dawn in VA (Member # 9693) on :
 
Gigi, thanks for providing a concise description of the process. My mind was not grabbing it fully yesterday.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
To anyone who had one or more red x's in 6.1 Mold & Fungi section:

Have you noticed an improvement in related symptoms or what you think are mold/fungi symptoms?

My husband has had a toenail that I could not doctor well for many years with everything available. It started to spread to other nails on the same foot. But since the drops, starting quite early in the rounds, the small toenails have cleared and the large one is growing out normal and won't be too much longer before it is a normal nail again. He has had this for many years.

If the systemic clearing is as effective as it is on his foot, this is a major event in my book. The toxins being released by fungi and mold are often more severe and more persistent and damaging than any other infections (per Dr.K.)

I noted in the german AI booklet "Info for Clients" which is being translated into English right now, they explain how the fungi develops in the first place and further explain what happens when they correct the error in the DNA usually contained in the first test/drops.

They state as follows:

"We are referring to mycotic burdens from foot fungi to candida all the way to the vaginal fungal irritations. Any - even the most chronic fungal infection disappear at once when the system has been corrected to recognize, identify and clear them up satisfactorily."

From our experience, they are right on the button.
Just wondering what others have experienced.

I am glad that I started to push
AI to translate that booklet, because I think it will explain some things a lot better for all who are on the therapy or who are thinking about it.

And don't underestimate the emotional releases that are happening. I know to some of you it seems like being on a roller coaster. But these unresolved emotions also are at the very root of many of our problems. Hopefully we will be talking past tense soon.

Take care.

P.S. Our #8 is on the way to us. This one must be going to the real core of the wormy apple!

P.P.S. In reading through some more of the literature from AI, I noticed where they state that if they come to the point where they cannot find any more errors to correct, to be sure to watch for any changes in the next few months and to be sure to notify them if anything shows up and/or doesn't go away or improve. They will test again to see what they can find then.

Since the body is starting to regulate ongoing, it is possible that there is another "lump of chaos" (they liken it to a ball of knitting yarn, i.e. chaos rolled up) somewhere in the system that needs resolving.

I didn't realize how difficult some of the translating can be - because AI talks a totally different language and subject matter from what I am used to, even after having listened to Dr. K. talks for many years. Hope you understand.

Please report on changes - even the smallest ones.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Gigi: I have reported that my brittle finger nails are stronger and finally not peeling in layers. This happened after the second round, then they got worse again, then better after 4th round.

There are others who have had the same experience.

I also took a suggestion to soak my nails in equal parts apple cider vinegar and hydrogen peroxide solution, and almost immediately they got stronger, and the ridges disappeared again.

This solution is for nail fungus, so that is why I think now it is a form of fungus, and the AI did help this.

Although, now waiting for round 5, my nails are weakening again. But not as bad as before the AI.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
HI, Changes for me lately are anger and aggitation followed by total exhaustion . I am feeling the exhaustion i felt when i was 21 just coming down with this. even my evening walks or swims are too much.
I cant tell with the candida..I am just not sure. My page was definately marked for fungus..
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Hello all, just checking...

Sent second saliva sample... last week. No word and/or reply from AI via email response. What is the general turnaround time for people. My first round,.... meaning .... I sent sample and their return of drops was 5 days.

I emailed them to see if they received my new sample... with 10$ inside... as they instructed in my test results. No reply... sent another email...no reply?

I do realize that unlike here.. Germany goes on a summer break..so...

I dont want any gaps in my treatment. Not sure if it matters.
Thanx all!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Just curious Gigi, how does fungi develop in the first place according to AI?
I thought by Dr. K that it was the organisms last mode of defense against metals..

I was allergic to 6 of the fungi. I know fungus has been a long standing issue for me for quite some time. which only worsened when i did long term abx several years back.

Also, do you know if AI checks each of us as thoroughly each round as they do the first time?
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
fungi info - I think it was back with round 3 I woke up sneezing every morning - not just 2 or 3 sneezes.

My sinuses ached which I had never experienced before as well as some pretty good headaches and earaches. I could also smell mold but could never find any in the house.

It occurred to me that maybe the mold was coming from within? That all passed with round 3.

My nails are much stronger but the vertical ridges come and go. They were gone at one point and are now back except for my index fingers.

I don't know if the ridges are related to fungus.

Cooper - sometimes things happen with the mail. My drops have arrived as quickly as 6 days and sometimes not for 14 (from their mailing date).

I waited a month for round 6 and they had to resend it. That has never happened and I was assured that the long break I had was not a problem. The drops continue to work.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just received Round 5!
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Do they email you your second results or just mail it all straight to you.

First round they verified receipt and gave em the results in an email.
 

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Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
My second round drops arrived with results in the post, as there is less paper 'bulk' than the first test results presumably.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi all,
I got my drops today. This is round 4, but really 3. Last sample i sent in a small sample of the pool water where i go as well as a pesticide that was used for ants.
I had 11 chemicals that showed and 6 blockages.
AI wrote and they were very supportive. THey really encouraged me to stay with this..and hang in there. That this is like getting to the corre of the apple..sometimes worms get in the way and they need to be moved..
They said that it can be hard to stay with it when your subjective feeling says little has changed so far. Well i actually have noticed some positive shifts with this. I feel maybe in my last note to AI that i focused more on the problem and less on what has shifted.
So i feel i need to write and tell them..
They definately have a heart, and are very willing to keep trying..for that , i feel good about. Nothing means more to you when you are sick than to have that kind of support..that it can be figured out..
Just thought i would share,
Take care,
Runner
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Runner, yes, Dr. K. explains the fungi growth clearly in his 1994 article'Heavy Metals and Chronic Disease'. He talked about this before the rest of the world woke up. I think it is still on his website.

He has always stated: The body grows fungi in order to protect itself against the damage from heavy metals. But fungi also have a life cycle, they poo and pee, they live and die, which causes us to have to manage more neurotoxins. Unless we manage to get rid of the metals and reduce the bacterial infections and of course correct some bad eating habits.

AI in their ``Info to Clients'' (not available in English yet) talk about not enough acidity being present resulting in breakout and outgasing of toxic substances causing the fungi growth. It sounds like they are talking about the same thing.

Klinghardt always says "metals go into solution in an acidic environment", and AI talks about there not being enough acidity present.
Still, the body will have to live with more fungi unless the metals are successfully detoxed. It is a process that can take
more than a few months, especially if
the body does not recognize heavy metals as a toxin any longer. Some people are born with this dysregulation. I guess many of us taking the AI have found this out.
It would be interesting to find out if there is one Lymie who does not have a heavy metal dysregulation. Or who does not have the major food allergy problems.

Runner, whatever they correct with each bottle is corrected. They go through many systems and layers (Onion!! or Apple) until they get to the core and when they no longer can find any dysregulations to correct. Once a correction is made, the information is imprinted in your drops and the body responds to it. That correction alone may not be covering all problems, because the body is a dynamic organism = it is all one unit that only works when most of all parts to it work.

Electromagnetic information is always below the point and before the body has any biochemical reactions. It is strictly "information". The thought or fear or happiness happens first and before we get a physical reaction that will then prompt/affect our body chemistry.

Off to get some dinner on the table!

Take care.

P.S. About AI: Yes, they definitely have a heart. I did a lot of crying a few months ago and they listened to every word I said - with patience.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
anyone? up.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
HI cooper, I usually get the results in the actual mail. The first one they did an email..now it seems as though it is by mail. hope that answers your question.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Gigi, thank you for the detailed explanation. It raised a few questions for me..and opened my eyes a bit more..to understand.

Like most, i have a chronic candida infection. despite diet. I work extensively on metals..and am hoping with AI the metal allergy drops, hence so will the metals and fungus.
I wonder if AI means there might not be enough acidity in the GI tract or small intestine, to break food down, etc..hence aggrivating more fungal overgrowth in the intestines. and maybe DK means blood acidity.. I know from my own experience my stomache acid is down, and may be part of the reason i am not digesting and feeling the food is just sitting there.
It was a thought that crossed my mind when reading.

thanks for the information you shared. makes sense as first thought then feelling..as above so below..

Take care, Runner
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cooper, I don't think sending cash is
a good idea. They do that within Germany by German clients, but not from overseas. You could use Paypal for that and the chances of the money getting lost are nil.

They will not acknowledge receipt of the subsequent samples. You mail it with your comments, send them money by paypal. When they have the test done and the bottle ready to return to you, you may get the test results in an e-mail and the bottle in a separate package. Sometimes they include the test results directly inside the box with bottle as UK said. They have done it both ways for us.


It changes. But don't expect them to acknowledge receipt every time. They would have to hire extra people or charge more. As it is, I think they are doing a lot of work for the money they charge for the total therapy, especially when so many bottles are involved.

They also do not answer e-mails unless it is really necessary. It's best to keep any communication very short with few words. They don't understand English all that well in order to respond.

Runner, it concerns both low stomach acidity and low tissue acidity. The high alkalinity is probably because of your low protein consumption, which tends more toward tissue acidity. You can Take some litmus paper and test yourself away from food and drink. You will probably be alkaline most the time. It is difficult to detox metals -- you need proteins to detox heavy metals. And you need a good mineral base. Goat Whey.

There is a good old article from Dr. K. If I find it, I will post it.

Take care.

RUNNER, here is the article on metal detox. Scroll down to BIOCHEMICAL FACTORS.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:zi7LGOxQX8AJ:www.klinghardtacademy.com/Articles/Mercury-Detoxification-Perpetuating-Factors-Problems-and-Obstacles.html+klinghardt+alkalinity+v s.+acidity+heavy+metals&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Yes, i am mostly alkaline. I was always proud of that untill now. I am now getting more protien in my diet.
That article is great. i fit in almost every category..which is a bit concerning. especially with the jawbone issue, stress, lack of sleep and deficiencies. it is an eye opener anyway.
 

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Posted by hobokinite (Member # 6132) on :
 
This may seem a strange coincidence. But, since doing AI, I have noticed I've been getting skin tags under my arm. COuld it just be hitting the ripe od age of 46 or summer sweating, but never had them before. AI is the only new thing in my treatment.

Any ideas?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
what's a skin tag?
 

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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
A skin tag is a little fold of skin that can form in almost any color and sticks out similar to a mole. Most are genetic and we get more as we age. They are usually harmless. Sometimes people have them removed for cosmetic reasons or because they rub against clothing and get irritated.

They often form near the arms on the upper trunk or neck.

Hiker53
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Today is my third drop of round 3 or 4. probley realistically round 3. even though i wish i were further ahead. I cant wait to get into the meat of the drops like round 7 or 8 if i make it that far, for now i feel likei am just surfacing. I feel when i take the drops they are quite supportive. I find it is much harder for me to be without them.
I didnt sleep well at all last nite. I couldnt fall asleep for hours after preparation, and i woek up at 3:30 and probley didnt fall back asleep utnill 10am or so. it was a hard day being that i felt so sleep deprived..however, this evening i got out for a forced walk and a healthy dinner....and later i did a castor oil pack. something significant happened..
i wanted to share, i have an aspect of myself that i have not had or seen in a long time.. have a sense of clarity . it is just a touch of it. I can be on the computer a bit longer without feeling panicky and "in a hurry"
but the most significant thing is that i feel inspired to tell my story in a journal. lately my energy has been so low i often do not share a whole lot wih others , i cant even read for long periods of time, or talk ont eh phone..but tonight, i opened up my word document and started typing. I went back to 2001 when i was traing for cross country and when i first got bit. Every detail from the way my apartment looked to what i ate came back to me crystal clear. i could hardly type fast enough to keep up with what my brain wanted to get down on paper. i dotn know if this revisiting is a sign of the drops or not. I am curious..have any of you experienced anything like this? i felt some healing in writing..and i just thought i would share..
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Runner, yes, these are the types of experiences many of us have been having on the first rounds of the drops. They are all different and personal related to deep emotional attachments or traumas.

I experienced emotional healing during this time, as well as my children who are on the drops. After 4 rounds, my daughter finally shared on her own to me, without me asking, how are you doing....just out of the blue, "mom, I know the drops work!~ I do not feel depressed anymore, and I feel happy and ready to move on to college. I have goals for the first time and confidence. I know the drops are doing something to help me. I feel that I now want to talk with you and tell you what I have never told you before. I feel more free to say what is on my mind. I can be more normal around friends now. I do not feel anxious anymore. I do not have allergies to cats and dogs anymore, and I can eat any food without it bothering me. Thank you for doing this for me!

This is from my 17 year old...this personal sharing alone was amazing to me and worth every penny of the therapy!

I do think things work faster for the kids, from what I observe. And I am cautious to not share anything on this forum that is not truth. I do not want to give false hope to others, or mislead anyone, but this is what has happened in truth for my family.

I never believe that all things are just the drops, but they are a big part of our recent deeper healing. We have done other things to support what the drops are doing, like attend church as a family, prayer, follow healing diet and protocols, and smile, laugh and spend weekends at the Jersey shore in the sunshine!

Also...this is the first summer that being on the beach, in direct sun, has not bothered me or given me rashes or inflamation! That is another major positive healing that has occured this year for me! I have lupus and should not be in the sun!
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Lymeparfait,
Thank you for sharing what you did. That is a sweet , sweet story and very encouraging.
I can relate to what your daughter shared with you..and i didnt even realize some of the changes untill i read what you wrote and then could identify. I also at times feel more open to share what is going on with me, and deeper in touch with my feelings. i can relate to her goal setting with confidence. this illness really can take that away . For me in comes in waves but when it comes i welcome it.
A few days ago i was telling a friend, i feel like there is something missing in my brain, something isnt firing right..a deficiency of some sort. But last nite it seemed to have come together for a short while, i could write and identify with what i am experiencing. I was starting to share from a deep place inside me the hurt of being taken out of school and not knowing whats wrong (hindsight 20/20) you realize the seriousness more and more as time goes on..and you gain more knowledge about this illness, the causative factors, etc.
The more i wrote the more it all came back to me. it was almost as if i was going back in time, like a deep meditation this stuff was comingup and out. it felt good to get it all down on paper.
I too feel the other things are important to incorporate for any healing journey. prayer, and living in the heart, feeding that..relationships, laughing, spending time outside of "lyme disease" etc...all can be very feeding.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Gigi,
Can you please E-mail me you E-mail. I have a few questions,concerns with my reactions to the drops.You had mentioned the amazing turn around that your husbad has expierienced and I would like to see if my reaction exp. are simular.
Thank's Terri
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Just saw my ND today, and she had a personal talk with Dr. K. about the AI therapy. I am her only patient now doing this.

He told her that he believes the drops are an important part of the 5 levels of healing. That he should add another level to his piramid...that the moving of information and the bodies ability to understand direction/information is also key, and was not listed in his original diagram to healing.

Paraphrased, he told her that the drops were just "informed water", like what we have been told, and the "information directions" is a crucial missing piece for many. He will be adding some sort of AI therapy too his protocol.

He will most likely use another source,(my opinion) My ND was very pleased with her conversation and said that other therapies, like the KPU etc, will not conflict with the AI. Completely separate levels.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Kissis, Would you mind sharing your positive experiences here so we can learn and be encouraged as well?

lymeparfait, i am a little confused on how dr. K can replicate AI. Dr. G has been working on this for over 20 years..its not an easy process from what i understand. how does he know that kpu wont conflict with AI? If AI is mobilizing and so is KPU from what GIGI is saying in the beginning stages this can be alot of detox...and the body is shuffling into compartments to be mobilized and can be overwhelming. can create more confusion, hence i am confused.

Gigi any light on this?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
I don't know either...just reporting what I heard.

He did not say he is replicating...this is my thought.

AI is not mobilizing...our bodies are finally able to receive/recognize direction and information to mobilize itself and detox. If we can detox.


My ND understands how the AI is done, as Dr. K. explained it to her, she said. She is very positive about the AI.

lp

[ 08-17-2009, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: lymeparfait ]
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
I am still doing AI and Kpu together and having the same experiences people are posting here. To me they feel like they compliment each other.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Healing in SC.

Does your ND have any indication how long the KPU treatment could last? Have you heard of anyone ending the KPU treatment yet? Just curious about length and how people feel they detox afterward.

I have no reaction at all to taking the KPU. IT is just another protocol to remember to take for me. Although I do test strongly now for needing it. I cannot say tht I am detoxing better yet as I have no physical signs it is working.

My ND says it could take a year, she said we must retest.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi LP, My Md has not really said as we are all so different. I have heard 4-6 mo. I have read a few posts of peeps feeling good in a short time. Although those are peeps that were never tested to see if they have the problem but feel better doing it. Then there are some that have been on it way longer than me that are really struggling. Time will tell,I guess as we learn more about it more will be revealed. Hope I am making sense.Where I live we have had 5 days of extreme heavy smoke from a fire and brain fog and confusion is heavy. Not a good thing to happen while healing and MCS,which is actually better at times lately.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Well Runner I felt great on round 3 but I am curently on round 4, and Im not so sure you will want to hear of my expierience. I have never felt so weak before . It is so tireing just to put a fork to my mouth to eat or even chew and swallow, and going to the batroom even is so taxing. I stated earlyer that I am probaly one of the sickest doing A1, I have been diagnosed with M.S.for 18 years and years later was found to have Lyme and Microplasma. But the first day doing this round I had increadable energy( short lived ) but I have gone downhill ever since.
In the letter with the drops it said it identified 9 chemicals , so I guess that is what is being addresed now. My urine smells foul and my urethra throbs in pain , probaly since I'm passing this crap through there.
I'm have and half in wheelchir /walker but since starting this round it has been wheelchair all the way.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Kissis, Sorry to hear you are having such a hard time.Hang in there,Healing Blessings Joyce
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Kissis, my e-mail is
[email protected] - Feel free to write. An MS patient AI had in recent years who came in wheelchair took approx. 20 rounds of PSP. So be patient. She is now riding her bike again.


Will get back re other posts later. Have been on the go all day and need to get dinner before I faint.

Take care.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Kissis,
We are all here for you! Be patient as you are healing. Be encouraged! We are all hoping that you especially gain health improvement!

blessing,
lp
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
Hi Kissis, thank you for sharing your experience.
I know this is a hard road. I can relate to the type of fatigue you are experiencing. I feel i am too tired to even think straight sometime and when igo to the store i feel like people are looking at me funny.
What GIGI worte is so encouraging to me.
May you be blessed and all of us , and my we all experince increased healing..Keep us posted.
Runner
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Lymeparfait, thank you - it's nice that your ND talked about AI with Dr. K. I have given him all the info last year when I first discovered its existence. I have known him since 1998 - always my hero - but this one is coming to him a bit late. He listens and thinks. It's always been this way -

His standard phrase always was "If you are allergic to a substance, you cannot absorb it and you cannot release it". HPU is very common in Europe and Dr. K. handed me one of the books, which I don't think he had read yet, by one of the well known MD's who has been treating HPU for many years. It is very clearly stated throughout the book that any wheat/gluten allergy or sensitivity has to be taken into consideration, avoided, gets in the way of KPU, this includes all grains. This is not just a one-sentence mention - it covers several sections throughout the book. So we can assume it's real.

Anyone here on this thread who has not had that problem? As far as I know from the tests I have heard and seen, I am the only one without any food allergies on AI. My husband had all of them.

That is one reason why I would never have attempted to do KPU while still in the deep correction phase of AI. Many other allergic/errors are relevant to some of the foods; food processing and wheat simply cannot be avoided. Wheat frequencies show up in dairy - cows eat grain; toothpaste, sausage, glues, wallpapers, ....

I learned my lesson with Bionic whereby we mobilized every toxin possible without any help or push to get rid of them. We both got very ill. I really thought for several weeks we weren't going to make it. Burned once. Not again. KPU sets things in motion - toxins moving within the system - immune system still unable to recognize it ---- then what?? Does it shut down again?
The body only has limited energy to deal with that added stress and I never ever want to feel so sick again. This mistake cost me many months of my life. At our age, every month is precious and energy is even more precious.

Of course, the drops don't mobilize the toxins, but the correction to the electromagnetic system causes the immune system to become alert, and then mobilization starts. If you start sneezing when you take the drops, I would call this mobilization. Dreams? Emotions surfacing? It started for us with bottle #1, very slowly, and has not stopped since. Now we test for heavy metals and others every day. The body is working. The emotional roller coaster has slowed down considerably, and so has the tiredness. There were days when I dragged myself through the house --- and I am not used to that speed at all.

As I feel we can handle it, I bring in KPU when it tests energetically. But we are now on bottle #8 and many of the dysregulations have been solved. Yet my husband had another 16 chemicals, 12 energetic blockages and 12 regulation disturbances. It's getting deeper into the onion and I am sure some of the old burden is showing up - after all he fought WWII and has lived through a few encounters and many toxins on board ship and planes.

I noted that several of you have had reactions. It is difficult to pin them down and define them unless you are good at testing or have help.

I find the AI detox is much milder and easier to tolerate than other detoxing I have done years ago. Probably for the same reason -- we were allergic and released very little and only recycled a good part of the toxins, and that can feel very bad until the toxins have found another spot to settle, with different symptoms.

I am also not keen doing any other therapy while on AI unless it is clear that the body can take on more. I sent the KPU protocol to Mr. G. several months ago for his general comment, and he did not hesitate - warning don't add more to the burden the body does not know what to do with.

I have the tweaked protocol from Dr. K. and it contains substances that I interpret as falling into the food relevant category that showed up for us in bottles #4,5, etc. And if going KPU, it also entails heavy metal detox (DMPS, DMSA, and all the others) that one must be prepared to handle easily. With too many unresolved errors - that is not easy to do.

Why stress the body unnecessarily by doing too much and too soon. Who knows, maybe with a well regulating body, some other therapies may not be needed. I don't know -

But I think it is wise to be careful and going at it with respect for the body. Rushing things has never worked when it comes to healing. The body will do all it needs to do with the proper support in its own time.

Will be seeing Dr. K. the end of this month at a seminar and I am certain I will hear and learn more. It always is an exciting time -

Take care.


Kissis, on an even lighter note: The MS patient who came to them in the wheelchair the year beforedanced at Mr. and Mrs. G's wedding! Stay with it - it takes time.
 

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Posted by Nutmeg (Member # 7250) on :
 
Hello all,

When reporting to AI about symptoms and what's changing or staying the same, do you include things like emotional swings and vivid or unusual dreams?

So far I have only been listing the changes in my major symptoms like joint and muscle pain, coughing, fatigue, feeling toxic, headaches, and sleep quality. There is plenty to list!

Just wondering if the AI folks are also interested in hearing about things like periods of anger, intense grief, sadness, cravings for various foods, and intense dreams.

GiGi mentioned memory pains, and I feel like I've had some of those. I will have periods (1-2 days) of more intense pain in the knee, neck, feet/ankles, and low back, and other areas where I have had a great number of injuries and have developed arthritis and other structural dysfunctions.

These pains do normally come and go, but usually I can trace them to some kind of activity. Not so much with the memory pains.

Just wondering what others are including and how much detail you are giving when you report on your symptoms.

I finished round number 4 of the drops and sent off my next sample a week ago.

Thanks, all,
Nutmeg
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
The way you describe it, Nutmeg, is all they need. The less long sentences, the better. They have trouble with English. They do not need a lot of detail. They are looking for the wrong polarities.

Interesting -- a phobia is a blockade with a minus polarity; so is jealousy -- just to mention a couple. These minus polarity eventually get to the organs - it always starts with the thought, the mind = creating our own reality with the way we think.

But they do not care to know the details of the emotions -- they find the polarities at the different levels and that is also part of what goes into the drops. When They tell us that we have a certain number of emotional blockages, they are not concerned with what they are. They merely turn the switch to correct it.

Did you know that we cause a short in the body when we cross our feet? The nucleus of a cell has a minus polarity and the cell wall a plus.
I can only imagine what happens if something we do, or experience, or take by mouth or
dermally that throws the polarity and interrupts the energy flow! Like blowing a fuse.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Cooper (Member # 15968) on :
 
Round 2 is arriving ...just to be sure how are you all opening the bottle...last time I was doing mega drops... would a pin in the tip do it...
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Great information on this thread. Thanks, everyone.

If I understand this correctly, it appears that in order for AI to get an accurate `read' on a saliva sample, it's important to minimize the use of any supplements (or drugs) that might `mask' an underlying problem or condition.

For instance, if your adrenal glands are weak and you are taking something like Isocort or licorice to boost your adrenal function, then isn't it possible that AI testing might misinterpret actual adrenal health and miss whatever may be causing the malfunction?
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Gigi,
Thanks for your comments and insights on KPU and AI.

I am experiencing new things all the time and learning.

Originally, before AI and KPU therapies, I know I had difficulty detoxing. I was always retaining fluids, etc.

I started the AI therapy, and the following month, my ND told me about KPU and thought I was a strong candidate for the test and therapy.

I took the urine test, and she read the results wrong, and thought I did not have KPU, so I just continued on round 2 of AI. I ARt tested positive for the products, but I decided to not do it and only take AI for the duration.

Before Round three, she called and told me I indeed was positive for KPU. I re-ART tested, and was strong for taking the drops and the AI together. So I took about one month of KPU.

Then I tested myself with the biotenser for the products,and I tested a NO! So I stopped on my own, thinking I would only do the KPU therapy afater I stopped the Ai, and retested to see if I still need the KPU! That was my plan.

Well, now, I do test positive withthe biotenser for needing the supplements for KPU!

I am thinking that the AI did it's magic for my body to now recognize how to detox, and accept the supplements and minerals, to allow my detox pathways to open.

In the past few days I now notice that I am actually draining my body fluid, and have started the KPU again before round 5, this week.

Gigi, do you think that my pathways have opened with the AI before the complete treatment is over? I am testing so strongly for the KPU each day.

And now I have actually lost weight/or fluffy fluid tissue ,just with fluids leaving my body.
My lymphs are now not hurting!

Any thoughts?
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Cooper, no a pin won't do it. You will need to lay it flat on a hard surface and with a razor blade cut off about l/16" from the the tip after removing the protective cap. If you have to press too hard to get the drops out after doing that, take another teeeeny bit more off. I then also mark the bottle so I do not confuse it with the older ones that are left, especially since we have two in the family doing the drops.

Sometimes if the drops still test and the new ones have not arrived yet, I may use the old one for a day or two, because sometimes it removes a blockage. (I can always tell by just looking at my husband when he is blocked.) Or I stick it in the pocket. Energy field.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Lymeparfait, depending on what they still find when testing, I would not do the KPU at this early stage (#5). When I test KPU supplements, I find the same. One day KPU okay, one day not. But don't forget that it is difficult not the let the testing mislead. I find it very difficult not to "think" my hope into the tensor and therefore am very careful not to let wishful thinking take over. That has backfired on me in other respects.

There is no way when HG still comes up with a handful or two dozen chemicals and other blockages that your system is ready to take on the battle for all the past mistakes. As Dr. K. says, the action is on totally different levels, and why not wait until we can be fairly safe and not shovel more substances which the body is not quite able to deal with.

The KPU - better HPU -- actually includes many other substances to be employed besides the basics. Every metal detox agent is used, several supportive vitamins and oils, all very possibly still carrying frequencies that we cannot handle yet. Everything we put into us has gone through some form of processing and possible exposure to frequencies we cannot deal with yet.

As long as they still find a number of dysregulations, which is what they really are, why force more stress onto a body that has been struggling for many years and in most of us has carried a tremendous load stressing the organs to the point where they are in a very precarious condition. I don't look at this as a healing state.

This is the exact answer I got from HG when I asked him about it several months ago. And unless a practitioner understands exactly what AI is doing, I will pay attention to AI until I feel fairly safe that I don't mess things up.

People who do all sorts of other programs tend to finish early with AI. At least the two I have heard about, yet the people are not well yet. My question: the body goes under-cover and does not reveal until the system finds balance between what it is being forced to do ----- listen to too many voices at the same time????? I am not expert - logic is my instructor!

There obviously is a reason why AI recommends not to -- they have worked with many people for many years -- for ten years successfully, and senior G has done it for ten years before that.

Wishing all the best and healthy decision-making!

Take care.
 

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Posted by runner21 (Member # 1974) on :
 
I second ping. I dont know if its fog or what buti am hainv a hard time understandiing that concept that she highlighted.
Also Gigi could you shed some light on Truthfinders question on the adrenal glads and taking adrenal supplements?
I guess the basis for AI would be a good foundational diet, minerals and binders?

I have had to go off my minerals and Bvitamins for kpu testing andi feel so weak. Due to digestive difficulties i am very deficinet and feel it very quickly when i go off supplements. I am also unclear about which test is the most accurate the vitamin diagnostics or biocenter. biocenter is 24 hour..

Thanks, Runner21
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Runner, I did Bio center and it is not the 24 hr one. I was positive. Just to give u a heads up. Healing Blessings Joyce
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, No, that is not what I am trying to say.
Note my words "My question" --

I will not elaborate on this any more, because I have talked about it throughout this whole thread.

I would hate for some to be disappointed feeling this therapy is not working because they ignored the recommendations given by AI.

Take care and hope the next round sends your wagon in the right direction!

Take care.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
**''I take it to mean that if people are doing other programs, it masks some of the dysregulations that AI would normally find, therefore, not correcting them?''**

Ping, thanks for asking a more precise version of my question. I guess the answer is either ``unknown'', or the answer is buried here in 13 pages of comments. (I've read all the pages and I don't recall seeing it.)

But based on the information from AI that Gigi has shared with us, what you stated in your question is how I would interpret the basis behind AI's recommendations. Maybe others see it differently.
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
Gigi, I understand what you say about the misleading of the mind with the biotenser. I appreciate your insights!

To counteract that, I do my best to test when I am fresh and my regulation is open, and can feel mentally neutral. It is not always perfect. I have made mistakes and stated things in a way to not get at the right direction for what I needed.

Like getting a very strong positive response that my body wants and would benefit from all the ingredients in the KPU therapy. My tenser goes wild in a positive motion. But many times when I have stated, "my body would benefit in the long term for complete health and healing by combining these two therapies, AI with the KPU, (holding them in my hand), the response is still strongly yes."

When I state my body would regulate better and more naturally with the AI alone, and let the AI do it's own regulation without adding more KPU supplements. I also get a strong yes.

I know that I need to make a statement for the products in various ways to triple check the response in important situations like doing AI with KPU.

Just knowing that a substance or food is good for my body, does not mean that my body needs it now. I do know when I test my binders in my basket in a group, many test positive for me today.

When I pull the selected ones out of the basket and line them up on my counter and individually test them in the selected group, by stating , "this one out of all that have been selected today, is needed now", only one will test positive to be the one for the now.


After I take the one, many others do not test at all for the day! But originally they all did test positive as being good for me.

So by experimenting like this, I am understanding more how to make the statements and select products, as well as learning the pitfalls. This takes experience I am learning.

This is why I decided to go to my ND to test with a neutral party, the KPU and the AI...and this is when I get confused.

She tests me as positive for doing both together. (and I do have a neutral mind on the subject..actually I hate doing protocols and would prefer not to do the KPU at all!)

With ART, she says she gets that they are on different plains, and that I would benefit more greatly to have my detox pathways open and working properly when the "directional information" from the AI is restored for the substances to be removed from the body. (this is a paraphrase, but as I understood her)

I know she is human, and maybe predisposed as well to follow Dr. K's guidance, as she is testing me. She has always been acurate for me in the past.

I had every intent to just let the AI do it's thing. I believe in that. But do get confused when MY ND strongly advises this.

I must pray about this!

To further clarify to others, I do think that there is no negative effect physically to taking them together, but as pointed out, our bodies may not get the full benefit of the AI regulation of problems if they are being masked during the AI therapy.

Possibly those doing other therapies with the AI, may need to continue their therapies indefinately as the AI will never get a chance to truly address the issues being masked by the therapies.

None of us are certain.

Sorry for the long response, but hope you understand my indecisiveness.
 

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Posted by seekhelp (Member # 15067) on :
 
Wow, these biotensor decisions must be quite time consuming day in and day out if they are made for every food choice, supplement choice, quantity/time/dosing, etc.

I remember a Twilight Zone episode in which a couple was sitting in a diner booth next to a fortune teller machine. The guy got super intrigued and thought every answer it provided was specific to him and couldn't get himself to leave. He lost the ability to make his own decisions.

It was a classic episode, but sometimes the reliance on these objects does make me think of this. If it works well for you and your health, great though.

I still want to know if ONE person here was cured of muscle tightness with AI.

Maybe Scott F is doing a ton better now as I haven't see any posts for a while? He is cleared of all blockages as of Round 7. I'll be interested to hear more as people graduate from AI therapy. I need to hear Ai completion = physical symptom elimination.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Ping, if you read the sequences in this thread. I have referred to our body attempting new regulation as a train that has been going in every which direction, sideways, forward, another wrong turn, etc. This is why I was referring to "your wagon"; in order to get me to understand this, this is an example HG has used in conversation with me.

All decisions are up to the individual. I can only pass on what I have learned in long conversations with the G's and what they have given us as guidance. So far that has taken us a long way from where we started; especially my husband.

Lots of things to do now while hopefully the heat lets off.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Truthfinder, the explanation is quite simple.

By taking more substances, many of which have been and are totally wrong for our body, the body will deposit them somewhere to get them out of the way and adding to the body burden. HG refers to this as "brushing more under the rug".

That is totally counterproductive according to them. It merely adds more dysregulations and new errors -- at the time, while we and they they are attempting to help clear the old accumulation.

Take care.

[ 08-20-2009, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: GiGi ]
 

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Posted by lymeparfait (Member # 14268) on :
 
seekhelp...I appologize for comments about the biotenser for those who do not own one or have never had a chance to use one. It cannot make sense to you. There are other threads about the biotenser that many of us doing the AI are very familiar with. I know we are all not on the same page with knowledge on this subject. You may want to research.

To clarify, I actually don't take much time using the biotenser on all on those daily things you mention. That would be over the top. But I guess you could if you wanted.

I only sited examples of things as examples for those of us who fine tune doses, treatments with what resignates with the body frequencies. This does not take up time...but over time and experience this skill is developed.

Specifically in light of many posts about should we or should we not take other treatments with the AI. Hoping my questions would help others as well and inspire other positive insights, as we, who are doing the treatment help each other.

Usually when there is a crisis or very important change that has occured physically. That's when a biotenser can be beneficial.

Most people use their common sense on what food to eat, and just follow the guidelines written on the bottle of supplements and follow MD's orders. Sounds like you are comfortable with the standard approach. But the "cookie cutter approach" to chronic illness has not been successful. You will get the standard results, slightly better, but no cure. We all know it takes individualized treatments for each of us to gain health.

I am actualy, finally very healthy, and feeling great. Just fine tuning some things, and the AI is a major missing link for me. This forum has literally "saved my life", with unique, "out of the box" protocols that if I had too much pride, and a know it all attitude, I would have never tried! I follow the advice of the ones who are better, and go from there! I use my innate intuition!

Those looking for a cure in a bottle, are in the wrong place! It doesn't exist! It's not a magic tonic or quick fix. AI is not the cure, it is a missing link, and piece of the individual puzzle, and a very user friendly, easy protocol that I believe everyone can use to set the healing in motion individually.

Those looking for "who was cured with AI, then when I see, I will do it", that is your own personal "twilight Zone " epsiode that will go on a lifetime with limited success. Because just Ai, will not doit all. There is an emotional/spiritual link to healing as well, and those who attain it, have an attitude adjustment along the way that clears the path to take. It is inidividual.

Specifically trying to get to the bottom of "should we add or not add" any other supplement while on the AI. This is important to me.

I do not like any treatments, and I do not want to take any more supplements than I actually need, just because I tested positive for it on a lab test.

I actually tested positive for lyme, and my LLMD wanted me on IV antibiotics after a long round on orals. I used my intuition that I needed to detox after orals,and did not take any more to treat the lyme, as I only treated co-infections.

I was inspired to "step out of the box" and try some natural protocols. Now, after detox, following natural protocol advice I learned here, and AI, I now do not test positive for lyme!

I save myself of loads of IV antibiotic therapy and side effects...by following my intuition and learning simple things from those who have gone before me.

The biotenser helped me navigate the mercury detox protocol. It is a very valuable tool. My brain fog left with this detox! I do not believe in standard testing as a sole means of therapy decision now.

We all have our own comfort zone. Follow your intuition, but please do not put down others ways as a joke, who have only been on this board to learn and share candidly to help people with truthful experiences. That is a disservice to us all.

You have to actually be using one to understand the point. Forgive me to add this on the common forum. But I cannot let such comments go without respectful reproach.

sincerely
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Seek, I answered you before, but hit the wrong key and lost it. So I will briefly try again:

The Biotensor is my direction finder. I am lost without it. Yes, intuition sometimes works, but I don't like to depend on it. ART is a wonderful art, but I need a third arm to safely test my husband.

It would be so nice if you could contribute some of your good ideas, I would be thankful.

For your muscle problem: You might want to try Transdermal Magnesium (chloride) Oil, and if you really want to know how much this nutrient influences our being, especially transdermally, spend $12. and get Dr. Marc Sircus' book on the subject (Transdermal Magnesium Therapy) and possibly read some of the writings by Dr. Norm Shealy, M.D. I posted an article the other day
"Transdermal or Oral" and you will find more on the internet. If you have Lyme which affects ligaments, etc., consider Jarrosil, also dermally. Both of these work wonders for us.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
 
Dear Friends,

As for the KPU/AI controversy, I would gladly stop the KPU and other supplements and do AI alone--if I could.

However, I came to the KPU supplements on a different route--finding out what nutritional supplements worked to eliminate seizures.

I'm not doing the protocol as set out by Dr. K, but am using the key supplements that are in it.

Perhaps, down the line, I'll be able to stop them and just to AI for a few rounds. That would be pleasant (and a HELL of a lot cheaper!!!)

I'm about to start Round 4 of the AI drops. As of the last check, I had 9 chemical and 3 energetic blockages.

Best,

Cass A
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Gigi, thanks for the response. I already understand that part - inadvertently adding to the `body burden' with substances the body can't recognize and process properly. My question (and Ping's) remains unanswered, though. If you ever get any illumination about this from HG, I hope you'll share it with us.

In any case, I guess what it comes down to is: On an individual basis, what's compatible with AI and what isn't? Or perhaps more precisely, what substances are compatible with EACH ROUND of AI, since this is a layered approach.

Lymeparfait, thanks for the excellent explanations. It seems that you are doing all you can to determine what works FOR you during your AI treatment. Getting a `second opinion' from another source is an excellent point.

Seek, one of my best friends became totally reliant upon her pendulum for everything. And because she refused to `test' her accuracy in any way, she got headed in the wrong direction. It can happen.

And I know a couple of people who refuse to do anything that isn't scientifically proven or that isn't recommended by their M.D. No good has come of that dogma, either. In my opinion, the two philosophies are equally obsessive and destructive.
 

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Posted by NanaDubo (Member # 14794) on :
 
In any case, I guess what it comes down to is: On an individual basis, what's compatible with AI and what isn't? Or perhaps more precisely, what substances are compatible with EACH ROUND of AI, since this is a layered approach.

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Not Gigi - but:

Key here is "individual". I don't know how Gigi can be expected to answer that.

Mr. G has said, and it has been repeated here: if it is a heart med, thyorid or the like - something you can't live without - take it.

If I find something here or there that is supportive of what I am detoxing, I take it but I am trying to keep it very, very simple so the body is not saying "do I do this, or do I do this?
24/7

As far as Gigi being rude - there is a difference between direct and rude. I know for a fact that late at night when her head should be on the pillow - she is answering emails to people on this thread.

A reply gets sent and 3 more emails/questions arrive. I would be quite surprised if her motivation to stay up so late spending her time doing this for us, is to be rude.

The written word can often be misinterpreted. The benefit of the doubt could be afforded someone who is being so helpful to those of us getting through A I.

Have a great day.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Please, rephrase your question:

Gigi, thanks for the response. I already understand that part - inadvertently adding to the `body burden' with substances the body can't recognize and process properly. My question (and Ping's) remains unanswered, though. If you ever get any illumination about this from HG, I hope you'll share it with us.

What remains unanswered? Please phrase the question in one simple question, without adding your opinion or interpretation or what you suspect such as masking, etc. A simple question, please.

Take care.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
To explain "the Wagon" again.

HG uses the example of us in a car getting lost on a highway network. Instead of getting from A to B, we are hopelessly lost at Z = also called chronic disease. We have a hard time finding out way back.

He uses the same example, riding on a train that has finally gotten hopelessly lost somewhere we never intended to go.

AI's effort is to help lead the car or the train/wagon back to where it can safely travel without getting stuck in the mudd. We have to retrace the same way back to the right road, the railroad tracks, if we want to get well. He works the switches or the traffic lights. That means they help us through the same detours, only backward, and therefore the travel cannot always be smooth. Retracing out steps means that often it will appear to us that we are getting worse before getting better. They call it "three steps forward, two steps backward." In order for the body to gain in one specific body area, it will temporarily neglect another part (feels worse) not absolutely necessary for survival. Or, it will sacrifice the arm in order to save the heart, temporarily.

All this has been explained to me over and over again, and any such conversation is very difficult to pass on when everybody is sitting there just waiting to pull what I say apart and weigh each word in a scale. I am tired of this.

So go and do your own translating. Their website equals the contents of a
1000 page book and more. You just need make the effort. None of this information came to me easily and I am ready to just shut up.

Hope you sensitive creatures now get the message about the "wagon going in the right direction".
Yes, life on the drops can be hard at times.


Breakfast time - my husband is sitting outside on the deck pouring my coffee.
 

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Posted by kissis (Member # 4165) on :
 
Thank you Gigi for your long reply to my questions, and I dont know why I never thought of taking less drops but still take them three times a day,such a great idea. But I must say round 4 was a dosie for me and I'm elated that last evening was the end of that one !
And I think you stories and analages' are very relatable and easy for me to understand. And I for one am greatful for your time and paitence to translate the A1 info that you share.
 

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Posted by Looking (Member # 13600) on :
 
Gigi, can we expect to feel more sensitive or easily upset when clearing emotional issues with the AI drops? I suspect this is the case.

I understand that it is not easy to always word things exactly as you mean when writing in a second language.

I'm sure I could offend you unintentionally by choosing the wrong words if I tried to respond in German, but I will spare you that. I'm glad I don't have to wade through the AI site on my own trying to decipher everything.

Thanks for the time you donate to post all this information, I know I'm not the only one who appreciates your efforts. I am of the opinion that we can't get well if our bodies are full of inflammation caused by allergy responses.
 

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Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
 
Hi Looking, My experience with emotions coming up is that they just float through me. Way easier than I have ever experienced. Sort of like watching a movie.No attachment.
 

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Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Looking,

"Gigi, can we expect to feel more sensitive or easily upset when clearing emotional issues with the AI drops? I suspect this is the case."

You are right, Looking, that is why AI has a staff member who is trained in this very area - some people have a difficult time and some overreact. They answer the phone even on Saturdays because they want to be there if people need help. In their letters, they literally invite people to call when they feel the need for help. The reactions will be different with every bottle. Every bottle involves different "circuits" of our electromagnetic system.

We have to remind ourselves that changes are happening. Then it is easier to get through it.

Take care.
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Nana, it wasn't meant to be a question, but rather a statement. My apologies - I worded it poorly. Maybe it would make more sense to put it like this:

I guess each person has to determine, on an individual basis, which additional substances are compatible with each round of AI drops, and which substances/treatments are not. Otherwise, it's a bit of a gamble as to what might inadvertently undermine the AI treatment.

Better?

(It has been made very clear that necessary substances - like thyroid or heart meds - should be continued. Or in Cass's case, her modified KPU protocol seems pretty necessary, at this point.)

Gigi, I don't know how to make it any simpler or clearer than the way Ping asked the question: