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R62
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Has anyone tried it? Thanks!
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YES!!! I just had a session the other day.... very interesting!! Cannot say weather it has helped or not yet. I have 4 more sessions left. [Smile]

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I have never heard of it. Can you help me understand?

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R62
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Here's more on Body Talk, Leelee. I'm still going through the info on the links.

http://www.thebodytalkcenter.com/home.html

http://www.bodytalksystem.com/videos/

Unexpected, I would love to her how it goes and your impressions.

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Thanks so much R62. I will try most anything to get better.

I will look at these sites tomorrow when I can really concentrate.

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Here is a series of You Tube shorts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWVcm-6aiKo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-lLeiU-XD0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML6B85CRaG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iuenknDcjc

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I had several sessions. I think it can be very helpful but is not enough, alone, to address infection.

I have heard some miraculous accounts of this. If it is in your budget, and the person is VERY experienced, I'd say to check it out.

I find massage works better for me but the person who did my body talk sessions had never seen anyone with the range of neuro things that I deal with.

But, again, this will not address infection. This is not to substituted for treatment that specifically addresses infection.

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Been there, done that...would not do it again.

I do believe it is only as good as the person who is treating you. My SIL swears by it.

However, after I had to suck on a Q-Tip and place it in my belly button...husband said ENOUGH!

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Thank you 2X and Keebler.

It seems it can be a helpful therapy or not and has its limitations.

I would not rule out what can and cannot help deal with infection and how far that can go, personally.

My sister healed without medical intervention. She was not diagnosied with lyme disease, but you know, I dont have a clear case either. What I have are similar symptoms to what she had.

I dont know what makes some of us more vulnerable to TBDs than others. I do test positive for antibodies to babesias. I have family members who are positive CDC and who have IgM positives Igenex and are fine compared to me.

There are possibly many other factors beyond pathogens.

That said, if someone had me suck on a q tip and place it in my belly button, I would run the other way, too!

I agree that the practioner is key, and that chances are high that this can be a good supportive therapy (or not) for some people along with other therapies, including pathogen killers as needed.

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R... The woman I went to also had me suck on a Q-tip... it is part of the session/therapy... she told me why and I totally forgot.. I will ask her next time. She was very nice and caring, and concerned for me... she even gave me a HUGE break on the price of my sessions as she said she is not out to get money from me but would just really like to help....

Like I said... I haven't noticed anything yet.. but I will do the 4 more sessions and see what happens...

I know it may sound crazy... but if the body is BALANCED and wired the right way ( so to speak) then that will have an effect on infection... infection can not survive in a body with a healthy terrain energetically or physically.

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Thanks for sharing this, Unexpected. Let us know what she says. I'm curious now!

I agree with you there. I think that is very key.

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The Q-Tip thing is to get rid of EBV. The founder of Body Talk had chronic EBV and that is how he got rid of it.

As stated above, I too cannot remember why this is supposed to work!

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What I'm learning about this, is that it is a communication process. So, no, the process isn't "enough" to take lyme away (etc.), but the answers to how your particular body can get well just might lie in this sort of system.

I think it is similar to ART.

I am very pleased with the results my dog has had. She has mites/itchiness/chewing his skin and I was considering euthanizing. Then we tried Body Talk as a gift from a friend and so far, so good!

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The Q-tip thing sounds nuts! Honestly who would pay money for something like that. I can do that right this minute for free, but its way too stupid to even consider.
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I have had one session of body talk. My practitioner seems to be very experienced. I know she has taken the advanced courses in body talk.

Her background is varied she has an undergraduate degree in psychology and an MBA from UCLA. It seems like most of the practitioners come from a variety of backgrounds. I have a friend in another state whose practitioner is a nurse.

I am not sure yet how it is working. She told me I may not notice a difference after my first session. I have noticed that my air hunger has lessened.
I go for another session on April 20th. We'll see what happens.

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I had a couple sessions of Body Talk.

FELDENKRAIS technique turned out to be much better for me in many ways:

www.feldenkrais.com
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Does anyone have experience with BodyTalk?
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I would not see ANYONE for anything, however seemingly unconnected to lyme, unless they are ILADS-aware and thoroughly lyme literate - and have successfully worked with at least a dozen others with "lyme complex"

I've wasted SO much money along the way. My "Body Work" sessions were just a joke. The practitioner had never seen anyone with symptoms such as mine yet kept say that it could all be fixed with this or that adjustment but it could take a long time if my body was not willing to accept her help.

Lyme changes so much about the body. We need LL people on all fronts.

But, until the infection(s) are squarely being treated, some of the adjunct methods are just not going to work. Some things may be palliative and if it helps us feel better, great (if we have funds for all of it).

If at all possible, do find a practitioner who is very lyme literate. I can't emphasize enough just how much this matters.
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I found Feldenkrais much better than Body Talk, but it still was not instrumental in actually addressing infection, the cause of my problems.

I think this (or similar body work / neuro re-education) is often necessary, too, just not as a substitution.

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http://www.feldenkrais.com/events/atm

Feldenkrais Awareness Through Movement� CLASSES

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http://www.feldenkrais.com/practitioners/find

Search for Guild Certified Feldenkrais Practitioners

[Some physical therapists are also trained in Feldenkrais. That would be great if insurance would cover it.]

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http://www.feldenkraisresources.com/

Feldenkrais Resources - CDs, DVDs, books, workshops, etc.

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http://www.feldenkrais.com/method/article/walking_the_earth/

WALKING THE EARTH - By Deedee Eisenberg

Excerpt:

. . . Sarah is a woman in mid-life with two grown children. After a disabling bout with Lyme disease, she felt that her feet ``refused to follow orders.''

Her gait was disturbed and simple tasks became hazardous. One evening she broke her ankle as she walked across her bedroom! Now her determination to stay mobile was burdened by more pain and weakness.

At this point, Sarah's massage therapist sent her to me for Functional Integration lessons. She made immediate and rapid progress; her feet found their way; and her gait became stable and fluid.

``In the aftermath of Lyme disease, Feldenkrais� lessons contributed to my entire sense of well-being. The movements improved my fine motor skills. Also, because I was walking all wrong, it tired me out.

I knew I was walking incorrectly, but I didn't know how to correct the problem--now that I'm walking better, I have more stamina,'' she explains. . . .

- full article at link.

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Note: Not ALL Feldenkrais practitioners are lyme literate or have had experience with the complexities that lyme brings. Be sure to find one who is LL.
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