If tingling, numbness, and shooting pains is caused by damaged/dead nerves, how does it get better when the Lyme is cured? Do the nerves regenerate?
Posted by MayberryNut (Member # 16589) on :
I asked my general physician this exact question. She said that nerves do regenerate by growing back together and "finding" each other. The answer is yes.
Posted by ByronSBell 2007 (Member # 11496) on :
Yes they do regenerate but very slowly.
My LLMD thinks it has more to do with the toxins and bacteria on the nerves causing the problems more than actual damage.
Posted by JKMMC09 (Member # 15795) on :
IVIG can help nerves to regenerate in some people, there are 2 Neurologists who use it in Lyme patients with varied success- like anything else, it doesn't work for everyone. Posted by njgirl14 (Member # 14174) on :
JKM could you PM with the name of the neuros you know. I am investigating IVIG as a possibility. Is Dr K from CT one?
Posted by Staris (Member # 17648) on :
JKMMC09 - If you could PM me the names as well I would greatly appreciate it - looking as well.
Neuroprotective Herbs and Active Constituents Approaches to Preventing Degenerative Diseases
- by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D.
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In addition to Singleton's book (The Lyme Disease Solution), that gives many measures to help protect nerves, adrenals and the liver from toxins,
This discusses the damage from stress-related cortisol and what can help to prevent that for patients with lyme, Cpn and other chronic stealth infectons:
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD
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This details struggles from Cpn infection that went untreated. It is a very helpful book in terms of what can help in preventing - and repairing - damage:
Death by Deception: Unmasking Heart Failure - by Dick Quinn, Shannon Quinn, Colin Quinn, Al Watson
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Posted by pepperspeck (Member # 18837) on :
I tested positive for peripheral neuropathy via nerve conduction and EMG about 6 years ago. I was, at the time, being treated for neurolyme.
I had extreme pain and significant muscle weakness. I was on neurontin for the pain for almost 3 years. I weaned off of the med because it was, IMO a horrible drug.
I continued treatment for lyme. I went through heavy metal detox. I was on a variety of supplements. I started exercising.
Fast forward 7 years and I am not pain free, but significantly better. I believe in the toxin theory that the body needs time to mop up the mess of die off.
My doctor told me it took awhile for the damage to happen and it would take awhile for the nerves to repair. They did..not to normal, but I can walk again.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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Pepperspeck,
I also had an awful experience with neurontin - but I could not take it more than a couple days - although I gave it many different tries and always the same horrible reaction.
I was perplexed as I had been told it was next to gold.
Gotu Kola, an herb, became my gold. It is not a cola and does not "wire" me at all.
It helps improve micro-circulation - and that is essential for nerves to be able to heal.
GOTU KOLA -- An Under-Appreciated Herb: Multifaceted Benefits on Microcirculation for Cardiovascular and Cognitive Health -- By Linda Fugate, PhD
The best nutrition in the world will not do anyone any good if it doesn't reach our tissues.
The gatekeeper to tissues is the microcirculatory system, which includes blood vessels smaller than 0.1 mm in diameter. The health of the microcirculatory system is now recognized as critical to the total health of the individual. (1)
Gotu Kola's Effect on the Circulatory System . . .
From Wound Healing to Brain Health . . .
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Conclusion
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Gotu Kola's primary action is enhancement of the health of the circulatory system. Because circulation is critical to the health of the entire body, Gotu Kola offers benefits in a variety of conditions.
The antioxidant and collagen supportive functions of Gotu Kola are particularly important in enhancing healing of damaged tissues.
Gotu Kola is bitter and astringent in taste and cooling in action.
It is a brain and memory tonic, and an anti-poison, and very useful for wound and skin healing.
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The primary effects of gotu kola include both wound healing and improvement of mental clarity and emotional balance. . . .
Research Highlights
* Western scientists have focused on the herb's wound and skin healing effects.
Numerous studies from around the world have demonstrated its efficacy in treating keloids, leg ulcers, phlebitis, slow-healing wounds, leprosy, surgical lesions, cellulitis, burns, dermatitis, venous disorders, and even cirrhosis of the liver (Maquart et al., 1999; Shukla et al., 1999; Hausen, 1993; Cesarone et al., 1992).
These studies illustrate the plant's numerous stimulating effects on the healing processes of the skin and connective tissue.
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- Full chapter at link above.
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Posted by pepperspeck (Member # 18837) on :
Thank you for the information Keebler. I am going to look into this. I still have cycles of pain and weakness and welcome new ideas to support the nerves and circulation.
Neurontin was a horrible drug (for me) despite its pain relieving benefit. I would never do it again.
Thanks again for the info. Off to read up on it.
Posted by Geneal (Member # 10375) on :
Nerves can and do heal as well as regenerate.
Not so with brain cells though.
Guess I am in trouble.
Hugs,
Geneal
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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Who says brain cells cannot heal? Are there some links to articles about that?
I know it might depend on the trauma/damage, etc. but I'm sure I've read of the brain healing in some cases.
A decade ago they declared nerves unable to regenerate and have since discovered that they can do so - even if slowly.
I think, with the right support, especially with improved circulation and key nutrients, we might be surprised. I never give up hope.
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