My treatment plan continues to be on hold as my liver markers have climbed. I was doing great and they had gone down for 2 months and now they shot back up
My LLMD says they should come back to normal after a couple of months of being off of abx.
The funny thing is that they shot up after I got off of abx ( on eiufor 14 months straight)
AST is 67, normal is 43 ALT is 136 , normal is 63 Billruben is 27, normal is 21 GGT is actul normal at 29, normal is 0-50 I have been taking milk thistle, and nac and probiotics. NOt everyday but on and off for 30 days
Anybody have any other suggestions or testing that I should get done?
CT scans? more blood testing?
I am anxious to get back to treatment
Posted by Stacyb (Member # 13084) on :
Hi Tony,
I had the same problem during abx tx. IMO you may be able to take more Milk Thisle and NAC and ALA too but ck with your LLMD first of course.
I take all those things daily!!!!! I take a lot of Milk Thisle too. There is Dandelion and other things to help as well.
Do a search on here for liver detox or clense.
Stacy
Posted by Geneal (Member # 10375) on :
Are you sure it's your liver and couldn't be pancreatitis?
Just asking as my liver enzymes were sky high with pancreatitis.
I wasn't taking any antibiotics then.
Hugs,
Geneal
Posted by MorningSong (Member # 19989) on :
In the past I have had very high liver enzymes. The doctor advised me at that time to drink lots of water to help the liver and flush out all the toxins. You may want to ask the doctor how much water to be drinking. Freshly squeezed lemon in water is supposed to be great for the liver.
Also, when my liver had problems, lots of raw fruits and vegetables (instead of meat, dairy, etc) for a time were helpful as it helped take a load off the liver and gave the extra nutrition to heal.
A nutritionist informed me that if given excellent nutrition that the liver would regenerate. I thank God for full liver healing and that I never had to have a transplant. I am not a doctor, just sharing my experience in hopes that it will help Posted by kareamber (Member # 20110) on :
I'm not dx'd yet, but was curous about elevated liver enzymes as well. Two years ago during my first "flare" my liver enzyme were elevated for no apparent reason. I wasn't on medication, I don't drink, etc... I heard that can indicate an infection. Has anyone had elevated liver enzymes just from being sick?
Posted by MorningSong (Member # 19989) on :
Years ago when having elevated liver enzymes, they stated it was because I had the Cytomegalo (CMV) virus. In my case, virus caused it.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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Yes, infections can cause liver enzymes to shoot to the moon or even just be little elevated, chronically.
Here is a set of links I've collected over time. There may be some helpful information here:
. . . Individual variations in our cytochrome P40 enzymes help to demystify why there are so many variations in how we respond to drugs and herbs. . . .
The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed.
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Protection
Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.
These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy.
Deficiency
The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .
Heat and Inflammation
To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .
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Pain
If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .
If milk thistle is not on your plan, NAC might be considered:
This, from a protocol for Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) which is a similar chronic stealth infection. This treatment protocol is also similar to that of chronic lyme.
This is what one of the protocol authors says about the power of NAC to help protet the liver:
. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.
See attached references.
My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.
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