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tonyp
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Hi

My treatment plan continues to be on hold as my liver markers have climbed. I was doing great and they had gone down for 2 months and now they shot back up

My LLMD says they should come back to normal after a couple of months of being off of abx.

The funny thing is that they shot up after I got off of abx ( on eiufor 14 months straight)

AST is 67, normal is 43
ALT is 136 , normal is 63
Billruben is 27, normal is 21
GGT is actul normal at 29, normal is 0-50
I have been taking milk thistle, and nac and probiotics. NOt everyday but on and off for 30 days

Anybody have any other suggestions or testing that I should get done?

CT scans? more blood testing?

I am anxious to get back to treatment

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Dx 3/2008 Pos. WB and Bart- igenex
Levequin 500 mg March 2008
Amox 6000 mg - May 2008
Doxy 400 mg - June - oct
Biaxin and Flagly 1000 each, oct-dec
Zitro, Malarone and Flagly Jan - feb
Remission for 6 months
Relapse Sept 2009 zithro/flagyl

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Stacyb
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Hi Tony,

I had the same problem during abx tx. IMO you may be able to take more Milk Thisle and NAC and ALA too but ck with your LLMD
first of course.

I take all those things daily!!!!!
I take a lot of Milk Thisle too.
There is Dandelion and other
things to help as well.

Do a search on here for liver detox or clense.

Stacy

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Geneal
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Are you sure it's your liver and couldn't be pancreatitis?

Just asking as my liver enzymes were sky high with pancreatitis.

I wasn't taking any antibiotics then.

Hugs,

Geneal

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MorningSong
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In the past I have had very high liver enzymes. The doctor advised me at that time to drink lots of water to help the liver and flush out all the toxins. You may want to ask the doctor how much water to be drinking. Freshly squeezed lemon in water is supposed to be great for the liver.

Also, when my liver had problems, lots of raw fruits and vegetables (instead of meat, dairy, etc) for a time were helpful as it helped take a load off the liver and gave the extra nutrition to heal.

A nutritionist informed me that if given excellent nutrition that the liver would regenerate. I thank God for full liver healing and that I never had to have a transplant. I am not a doctor, just sharing my experience in hopes that it will help [Smile]

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kareamber
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I'm not dx'd yet, but was curous about elevated liver enzymes as well. Two years ago during my first "flare" my liver enzyme were elevated for no apparent reason. I wasn't on medication, I don't drink, etc... I heard that can indicate an infection. Has anyone had elevated liver enzymes just from being sick?

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MorningSong
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Years ago when having elevated liver enzymes, they stated it was because I had the Cytomegalo (CMV) virus. In my case, virus caused it.
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Keebler
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Yes, infections can cause liver enzymes to shoot to the moon or even just be little elevated, chronically.

Here is a set of links I've collected over time. There may be some helpful information here:

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From Townsend Letter:

http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfreeprint.asp?docid=1G1:130779774&ctrlInfo=Round20%3AMode20d%3ADocFree%3APrint&print=yes


Liver support: an evidence-based review & call for research.(Naturopathic Perspectives)

Discussed at length:

Bupleurum

Schizandra

Phosphatidyl choline,

Inositol, Milk

Thistle Seed (Silybum marianum),

Turmeric (Curcuma longa),

Dandelion root (Taraxacum officinale),

Artichoke (Cynara scolymus),

and Other Liver Supportive Botanicals such as Andrographis Paniculata and Picrorhiza Kurroa . . . .


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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/understanding-the-liver.html

Understanding the Liver

Excerpt:

. . . Individual variations in our cytochrome P40 enzymes help to demystify why there are so many variations in how we respond to drugs and herbs. . . .


- Full chapter at link above.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/special-diets-for-illness.html


Special Diets for Illness


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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/herbs-to-help-the-liver.html


Herbs to Help the Liver

Excerpt:

. . .

The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed.

. . .

Protection

Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.


These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy.


Deficiency

The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .


Heat and Inflammation

To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .

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Pain

If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .

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- Full chapter at link above.


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www.itmonline.org/5organs/liver.htm


The 5 Organs Network of Chinese Medicine - Liver


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NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine)


If milk thistle is not on your plan, NAC might be considered:


This, from a protocol for Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) which is a similar chronic stealth infection. This treatment protocol is also similar to that of chronic lyme.


This is what one of the protocol authors says about the power of NAC to help protet the liver:


http://www.cpnhelp.org/liverprotection


Dr. Stratton Cautions on Protecting the Liver

. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.


See attached references.


My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.


. . . more at link above.


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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art2168&zTYPE=2


The Liver: Detoxifying This Vital Organ Nourishes Overall Health and Vitality - By Sherrill Sellman, ND


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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1890&zTYPE=2


Liver Protection: Laying the Foundation for Optimal Hepatic Health - By Kathy E. Acquistapace, DC, NHP, CNC


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