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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
I started humaworm on sunday and looking for insight as to what to expect.

I've had increase pain in ribs, back, neck and headaches. Also more tired and a bit foggy. Similar to how i feel when herxing.

Bowels haven't changed that much, not sure if they should have by now. I feel more gurguling and have less of an appetite.

Sound familiar to anyone?
 

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Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Yes, I herxed on Humaworm. It's very strong but a very good product.
 

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Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
 
I did 2 months ...nothing.

You'd think I 'm a prime canidate for it...grew up on small farm, dog trainer, had horses, farm sat for friends.

I did one (another company) 10 yrs ago. It included a colon clense too..
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
dmc, did the other cleanse do anything for you?
 

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Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
 
sorry didn't get to finish...it was the colon/parasite clense that has paratix pills, some psyllium (hay)and a tea.

Nothing happened then either. Just more regular with bowels.

I still order the tea. It's for when I took the narcotics for pain & became constipated. Tea tastes good.
 

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Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I'm doing the other cleanse (Dr. Natura) and it's done for me what it says it will do. The same for my husband. I'm a few pounds lighter without dieting (and before I started training to become a pilates instructor for those of you who know about that) so I know it has cleaned stuff out (plus, I saw it, just like the website).

The only time I saw parasites with Humaworm was the first time I used it, but I still feel I benefitted from getting rid of the invisible parasites with it. I always felt better afterward, so wait till you are finished and see how you feel then.
 

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Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
can someone tell me the way you are supposed to take humaworm? i have it but misplaced the directions. thanks.
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
So its day five. Still nothing visible coming out. But I am STARVING. So hungry I could eat my own arm. Could this be related to de-worming?

kayak-take two 1/2 before breakfast and two 8-12 hours later 1/2 before food
 

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Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
 
Have you probed with chopstick?
And have you checked the urine for any very small objects on the bottom? Parasites sink directly.

You have to be curious and know what you are looking for to observe.
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
haven't probed-was hoping i wouldn't have to. I move my bowels regularly every day-should I add a laxative to speed the process at all?
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Kayak...

Take two 1/2 hr before you eat in the am, and 8-12 hrs later take 2 again. Drink plenty of water.

dmbfan,

Whatever antiparasitics you do, they have to be repeated for many months/yrs. Humaworm says to wait 90 days between taking it, but they have other herbs you can take for Lyme, herpes, and in between herbs.

I have been doing herbs and salt/c for over 3yrs and am just now feeling like I am headed for remission. I will NEVER go off these protocols because these parasites have layed eggs and larva.

Taking extra cloves is a good idea because the cloves kill the eggs. I have gotten rid of bowls full of worms and parasites. You can definitely herx from the herbs.

Humaworm suggests taking their cleanse along with the herbs, but if you are moving your bowels I guess you don't have too unless you feel it's necessary.

I made this a science project and always check to see what I am getting rid of. Hope this helps. Persistence is key,

Gael
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
gael, so I should wait 90 days before doing again? or can i do it right away?

would de-worming make me really hungry?
 

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Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
thanks
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
dmbfan,

I have had the I could eat a sofa, chair and my arm hunger stuff. I suspect it's because the parasites want food because they are dying. I have read (can't remember where, that parasites can control our emotions.

Worms are ancient and are Masters at survival. Please read the info at humaworm as far as dosing and what order they suggest the cleanses such as kidney, liver etc.


They suggest waiting 90 days before doing the Humaworm again, because they can build up a resisitance, but there are other in between herbs and cleanses you can do including herbs for Lyme and viruses.

Also Hulda Clark has good info on getting rid of parasites. You can also google parasites + curezone to get to their forum. I suggest you research and study everything you can on parasites and their life cycle.

Sixgoofykids said she got rid of roundworms using Enula.

Also read the excellent info at

www.lymephotos.com

for the invaluable info the owner presents. I understand she is back at work and symptom free. Whatever antiparasitics you choose you have to be persistent.

Gael
 

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Posted by IckyTicky (Member # 21466) on :
 
I had some mild herxing. Didn't have a bm until the third day though. Didn't find anything unusual the whole month, though I am sure it did me some good.

My sister and a friend also took Humaworm. My friend was up all night in pain the first time she took it, and the next day passed a tapeworm. She'd had stomach problems her whole life and she felt so much better after her month of humaworm. Sister said she saw something probably threadworms.

I know it did something for me, since I had a dieoff reaction. Just nothing spectacular.
I plan on doing it again.
 

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Posted by Beverly (Member # 1271) on :
 
I did humaworm for about 30 days and got very constipated from it, I know it was killing something.
Plain old Vit C works good too, but it's hard on my stomach. Been killing those things in the lyme photos for a couple of years now..it's gross.

hang in there...
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Beverly,

What have you been using to kill the worms/parasites pictured in lymephotos? I got most of them out 3 yrs ago, and still seeing smaller ones. I am using herbs and salt/c,

Gael
 

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Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
 
Getting rid of a tapeworm that I did not know I had, has helped me tremendously with stomach and digestion issues. NO more gas, no problems with dairy, and no bloating and feeling full for no reason anymore.

amazing.
 

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Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
I'll be starting Humaworm after Oct 20th.
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Really happy to hear you are going after the parasites MB,

Gael
 

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Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
I have humaworm here that I ordered LAST fall and never used. Is it still good or would it be stale by now?

Feelfit
 

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Posted by METALLlC BLUE (Member # 6628) on :
 
Sorry, correction. I'll be starting Levaquin first, then parasites.
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
FF..

.e-mail Humaworm and ask them what they think. The e-mail is [email protected] This way you will know for sure,

Gael
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
ok, so i am REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I mean REALLY hungry. I'm not satisfied after a meal at all. I'm trying not to increase my food intake too much as I don't want to be feeding whatever is living in my gut, but its hard! Maybe I have a tapeworm, don't they make you hungry?
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
This is a direct quote from the parasite symptom list at Humaworm

"UNCONTROLLABLE HUNGER...

EATING MORE THAN NORMAL BUT STILL FEELING HUNGER"

Doesn't say which type of parasites cause this symptom, but a tapeworm is known to cause excessive hunger so you will feed it. Just keep going and see what eventually comes out,

Gael
 

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Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
thanks Gael for e-mail
 

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Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
 
The humaworm got rid of a large portion of the tape worm for me, in smaller segments. I believe it was 5 feet originally in length. But I still had a two to three foot segment left...with the head to irradicate.

So I did the Hulda Clarke...CoQ10 dose to get rid of the rest...as she posts this on her site for "clean up" tape worm treatment. that's when I saw the two foot segment come out...But it was encased in feces...had to probe, but it was all in tact. I only probe because I want to know it is gone...i need to know when to stop and rest for awhile from this killing.

I do not recommend doing that for everyone... I have a biotenser so I can test myself...like muscle test to tell if I still have it in me. and how much of the COQ10 to take...

I took between 1200 mg to 16oo mg. all at once...for three days. Hulda Clarke says to take more...but I did not test for needing more.

I did feel quite ill in the stomach on the third night, and felt like my liver hurt slightly and was uncomfortable sleeping, so I got a little scared. But when I checked in the morning stool, I was so happy to see the horrible critter out of me! It actually looked like it exploded, showing it's guts.....in certan segments, and in other parts of its length it was in tack...I felt fine after that...and now I feel I can digest foods so much better.

I still test positive for another tape worm, but Im taking a break from the intense killing spree. I am on the AI therapy, so I want to just do that and nothing else now.

I wish you all much success with your parasite elimination. This is so good to share here, and to help each other get healthy!

lp
 

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Posted by Beverly (Member # 1271) on :
 
Hi Gael,

Congrats on getting most of them out.

Right now I am doing Vit C in larger dosages and herbs. I plan on doing Humaowrm again and then probably will do some salt with the Vit C. I can't wait until they are all gone!
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
I took a dose of enula last night before bed. The hunger was so bad. Today, less hungry, but my spine is killing me. Maybe its dying and starting to move on out.
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
oh, and are "ball" of white mucous when i urinate or have a bowel movement a sign of die off?
 

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Posted by dmbfan (Member # 11948) on :
 
so, I passed some stuff today. Very clearly saw some large flukes (1 inch across) and segments of worms and other flukes. Fascinating stuff. still very hungry and pain in upper back. Adding enula to the mix.
 

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Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Haven't been on Lymenet for a while but I thought I'd check in. Some of you "old timers" may remember me... Hello & hope you are well as can be.

Anyway, I'm about 2 weeks into my first Humaworm experience. This is my 2nd or 3rd time doing an anti-parasite treatment but my 1st time with Humaworm. My pain level has increased & I've seen a few critters in the toilet. You really have to look to know what you are passing. Some are visible but I believe some may be microscopic & in the blood, lungs & other areas - so, you won't see them unless you have a microscope. I've also felt a bit queasy & my intestines are a bit sore.

It may be a good idea to rotate the treatments & try other types of anti-parasite herbs, supplements as to not build up resistance. A simple capsule of cloves, green black walnut hulls, & wormwood can do wonders. For me, the caps were stronger than the tinctures.

Another thing that helped quite alot was Dr. Schulze's Intestinal cleanse #2 - the one with charcoal, clay & psylium seeds. It's very strong stuff & it really pulls out alot of toxins from killing parasites & the eggs & mucus that can still be in your intestines. I've seen them...

It's probably a good idea to do the Dr Schulze stuff at a different time than while you are taking anti-parasite stuff but I did take a little to pull out the toxins in between the Humaworm doses.

It's not a fun thing to go through but most people probably have some parasites. You can also get flu like symptoms & feel really sick, have diarrhea, skin problems or other lousy symptoms. That means it's working. Just try to go through it as best as you can. Give yourself a rest for a bit & then do it again.

People worm their pets & it's no big deal but we need it too! It may not be a cure all for Lyme or CFS/Fibro but it can't hurt to get that stuff out of you.

We may never be completely parasite free but we really don't need 50 flukes in our liver or huge tapeworms, etc. You may not know how to recognize them in your bowel movements - so, it's just best to do a parasite cleanse every 6 months or sooner if you need it. Some parasites look recognizable but things in your bowel movements may just be fibers from vegetables. It's hard to tell & I don't think the standard tests are accurate.

I never would have imagined that I had parasites but I did. They are very good at hiding...

Good luck. I think anyone who does this is going to get some benefits out of it. Not everyone may be really infested but it's not going to hurt to go through this type of cleanse.
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Hey Sparkle,

Welcome back. Glad to see you have made some progress with the parasites. I have been doing antiparasitics for over 3 yrs and still seeing worm segments.

I also think it takes a long time to get rid of these parasites. Always enjoy reading your posts as they are usually descriptive and informative. hope you are doing well,

Gael
 

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Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
 
When I passed balls of white mucous..I saw, after I agitated the water ...the ball unraveled into a 1/2 " to also up to 2 1/2 inch thread worms I believe.

They were more whitish and translucent in color. Some have a little bit of pinkish red color inside that shows through in certain segments. Almost like it was my blood inside of it!

Then they would sink again to the bottom of the toilet, and go back into ball form. They were dead!

I found that when I agitate the water with a chopstick...many things surface that are almost clear, but you can see them float on the surface in the shape of worms. Most have been 1/4 to 1/2 inch in length. The little ones are pin worms.

I have pictures of the ones that came out that are about 2 to 3 inches in length...just so I could show my MD that I did indeed have worms, even if my tests were negative.

I also took many pictures of the tape worm 2 foot segment. I hesitate to post these here as not to gross out anyone, but if anyone PM's me, I will send them the pictures if that will help you know what to look for.

After I stopped my first cleanse with humaworm, I still had dead worms visually for over a 1 1/2 months. I kept using natural spices to keep them at bay. NOw after time has passed, I do not see anything visually, but will again do the humaworm in the future to get rid of eggs and newly hatched parasites.

I am feeling great now with intestinal issues. Even my husband comments that he has noticed I do not have the bloating and gas like reaction to things that gave it to me in the past!
 

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Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Hi Gael!

I thought the parasites would be the last of it but it wasn't the case. I'm glad I found out about this, though.

I passed alot of things that looked like flukes last spring. I was glad to get rid of them. My liver hurt for a while after that but it's healed.

I'm still in alot of pain. I did see a couple of flukes & something that looked like a roundworm about a week ago. So, the parasites are still breeding in me, I guess.

Now, it may be the new retrovirus they discovered (XMRV) or something else that's continuing to make me ill. It's hard to say.

It's good to get rid of the parasites in any case. I don't really think I had Lyme. I never had the same results as most people here did with the standard treatments.

I did try MMS but it was too strong. I had to stop. I may go back to it at some point in the future.

I did a 5 day detox with Dr Schulze's intestinal cleanse products #1 & #2. They were very good. I didn't need the #1 so much but the #2 product really did pull alot of toxins & weird looking things out of me.

I did get flu-like symptoms when I did the detox. They say it happens but I didn't think I was that toxic... Goes to show you.

The parasites do release toxins - so it's good to have something to clean up the system after killing them off.
 

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Posted by lightparfait (Member # 22022) on :
 
The day after I killed the tape worm...I had a very bad viral like sore throat, much different than I ever had, with a strange headache. And I very rarely get headaches.

I was scared that I let out some viruses when the tape worm exploded. I quickly took some binders, apple pectin, garlic tincture, apple cider vinegar, and chorella...for the entire following week!

Feel good now, but was concerned that I would have created more damage to my body.
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Just want to say that I am so glad that more people are becoming aware of the parasite connection to Lyme disease and taking the proper elimination steps.

As some of the Lymedocs stated they found it much easier to get rid of the other co-infections when they treated their patients for parasites.

Lightparfait,

Glad you got rid of that nasty tapeworm!

Not all doctors are aware of this, so you have to treat this on your own. Sending healing thoughts to everyone,

Gael
 

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Posted by StephenC (Member # 15171) on :
 

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Originally posted by lightparfait:
When I passed balls of white mucous

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