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dmc, did the other cleanse do anything for you?
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sorry didn't get to finish...it was the colon/parasite clense that has paratix pills, some psyllium (hay)and a tea.
Nothing happened then either. Just more regular with bowels.
I still order the tea. It's for when I took the narcotics for pain & became constipated. Tea tastes good.
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I'm doing the other cleanse (Dr. Natura) and it's done for me what it says it will do. The same for my husband. I'm a few pounds lighter without dieting (and before I started training to become a pilates instructor for those of you who know about that) so I know it has cleaned stuff out (plus, I saw it, just like the website).
The only time I saw parasites with Humaworm was the first time I used it, but I still feel I benefitted from getting rid of the invisible parasites with it. I always felt better afterward, so wait till you are finished and see how you feel then.
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can someone tell me the way you are supposed to take humaworm? i have it but misplaced the directions. thanks.
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haven't probed-was hoping i wouldn't have to. I move my bowels regularly every day-should I add a laxative to speed the process at all?
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Kayak...
Take two 1/2 hr before you eat in the am, and 8-12 hrs later take 2 again. Drink plenty of water.
dmbfan,
Whatever antiparasitics you do, they have to be repeated for many months/yrs. Humaworm says to wait 90 days between taking it, but they have other herbs you can take for Lyme, herpes, and in between herbs.
I have been doing herbs and salt/c for over 3yrs and am just now feeling like I am headed for remission. I will NEVER go off these protocols because these parasites have layed eggs and larva.
Taking extra cloves is a good idea because the cloves kill the eggs. I have gotten rid of bowls full of worms and parasites. You can definitely herx from the herbs.
Humaworm suggests taking their cleanse along with the herbs, but if you are moving your bowels I guess you don't have too unless you feel it's necessary.
I made this a science project and always check to see what I am getting rid of. Hope this helps. Persistence is key,
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gael, so I should wait 90 days before doing again? or can i do it right away?
would de-worming make me really hungry?
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thanks
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dmbfan,
I have had the I could eat a sofa, chair and my arm hunger stuff. I suspect it's because the parasites want food because they are dying. I have read (can't remember where, that parasites can control our emotions.
Worms are ancient and are Masters at survival. Please read the info at humaworm as far as dosing and what order they suggest the cleanses such as kidney, liver etc.
They suggest waiting 90 days before doing the Humaworm again, because they can build up a resisitance, but there are other in between herbs and cleanses you can do including herbs for Lyme and viruses.
Also Hulda Clark has good info on getting rid of parasites. You can also google parasites + curezone to get to their forum. I suggest you research and study everything you can on parasites and their life cycle.
Sixgoofykids said she got rid of roundworms using Enula.
for the invaluable info the owner presents. I understand she is back at work and symptom free. Whatever antiparasitics you choose you have to be persistent.
Gael
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I had some mild herxing. Didn't have a bm until the third day though. Didn't find anything unusual the whole month, though I am sure it did me some good.
My sister and a friend also took Humaworm. My friend was up all night in pain the first time she took it, and the next day passed a tapeworm. She'd had stomach problems her whole life and she felt so much better after her month of humaworm. Sister said she saw something probably threadworms.
I know it did something for me, since I had a dieoff reaction. Just nothing spectacular. I plan on doing it again.
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I did humaworm for about 30 days and got very constipated from it, I know it was killing something. Plain old Vit C works good too, but it's hard on my stomach. Been killing those things in the lyme photos for a couple of years now..it's gross.
hang in there...
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Beverly,
What have you been using to kill the worms/parasites pictured in lymephotos? I got most of them out 3 yrs ago, and still seeing smaller ones. I am using herbs and salt/c,
Gael
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Getting rid of a tapeworm that I did not know I had, has helped me tremendously with stomach and digestion issues. NO more gas, no problems with dairy, and no bloating and feeling full for no reason anymore.
amazing.
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I'll be starting Humaworm after Oct 20th.
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Really happy to hear you are going after the parasites MB,
Gael
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I have humaworm here that I ordered LAST fall and never used. Is it still good or would it be stale by now?
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Sorry, correction. I'll be starting Levaquin first, then parasites.
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FF..
.e-mail Humaworm and ask them what they think. The e-mail is [email protected] This way you will know for sure,
Gael
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ok, so i am REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I mean REALLY hungry. I'm not satisfied after a meal at all. I'm trying not to increase my food intake too much as I don't want to be feeding whatever is living in my gut, but its hard! Maybe I have a tapeworm, don't they make you hungry?
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This is a direct quote from the parasite symptom list at Humaworm
"UNCONTROLLABLE HUNGER...
EATING MORE THAN NORMAL BUT STILL FEELING HUNGER"
Doesn't say which type of parasites cause this symptom, but a tapeworm is known to cause excessive hunger so you will feed it. Just keep going and see what eventually comes out,
Gael
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thanks Gael for e-mail
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The humaworm got rid of a large portion of the tape worm for me, in smaller segments. I believe it was 5 feet originally in length. But I still had a two to three foot segment left...with the head to irradicate.
So I did the Hulda Clarke...CoQ10 dose to get rid of the rest...as she posts this on her site for "clean up" tape worm treatment. that's when I saw the two foot segment come out...But it was encased in feces...had to probe, but it was all in tact. I only probe because I want to know it is gone...i need to know when to stop and rest for awhile from this killing.
I do not recommend doing that for everyone... I have a biotenser so I can test myself...like muscle test to tell if I still have it in me. and how much of the COQ10 to take...
I took between 1200 mg to 16oo mg. all at once...for three days. Hulda Clarke says to take more...but I did not test for needing more.
I did feel quite ill in the stomach on the third night, and felt like my liver hurt slightly and was uncomfortable sleeping, so I got a little scared. But when I checked in the morning stool, I was so happy to see the horrible critter out of me! It actually looked like it exploded, showing it's guts.....in certan segments, and in other parts of its length it was in tack...I felt fine after that...and now I feel I can digest foods so much better.
I still test positive for another tape worm, but Im taking a break from the intense killing spree. I am on the AI therapy, so I want to just do that and nothing else now.
I wish you all much success with your parasite elimination. This is so good to share here, and to help each other get healthy!
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Hi Gael,
Congrats on getting most of them out.
Right now I am doing Vit C in larger dosages and herbs. I plan on doing Humaowrm again and then probably will do some salt with the Vit C. I can't wait until they are all gone!
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I took a dose of enula last night before bed. The hunger was so bad. Today, less hungry, but my spine is killing me. Maybe its dying and starting to move on out.
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oh, and are "ball" of white mucous when i urinate or have a bowel movement a sign of die off?
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so, I passed some stuff today. Very clearly saw some large flukes (1 inch across) and segments of worms and other flukes. Fascinating stuff. still very hungry and pain in upper back. Adding enula to the mix.
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Haven't been on Lymenet for a while but I thought I'd check in. Some of you "old timers" may remember me... Hello & hope you are well as can be.
Anyway, I'm about 2 weeks into my first Humaworm experience. This is my 2nd or 3rd time doing an anti-parasite treatment but my 1st time with Humaworm. My pain level has increased & I've seen a few critters in the toilet. You really have to look to know what you are passing. Some are visible but I believe some may be microscopic & in the blood, lungs & other areas - so, you won't see them unless you have a microscope. I've also felt a bit queasy & my intestines are a bit sore.
It may be a good idea to rotate the treatments & try other types of anti-parasite herbs, supplements as to not build up resistance. A simple capsule of cloves, green black walnut hulls, & wormwood can do wonders. For me, the caps were stronger than the tinctures.
Another thing that helped quite alot was Dr. Schulze's Intestinal cleanse #2 - the one with charcoal, clay & psylium seeds. It's very strong stuff & it really pulls out alot of toxins from killing parasites & the eggs & mucus that can still be in your intestines. I've seen them...
It's probably a good idea to do the Dr Schulze stuff at a different time than while you are taking anti-parasite stuff but I did take a little to pull out the toxins in between the Humaworm doses.
It's not a fun thing to go through but most people probably have some parasites. You can also get flu like symptoms & feel really sick, have diarrhea, skin problems or other lousy symptoms. That means it's working. Just try to go through it as best as you can. Give yourself a rest for a bit & then do it again.
People worm their pets & it's no big deal but we need it too! It may not be a cure all for Lyme or CFS/Fibro but it can't hurt to get that stuff out of you.
We may never be completely parasite free but we really don't need 50 flukes in our liver or huge tapeworms, etc. You may not know how to recognize them in your bowel movements - so, it's just best to do a parasite cleanse every 6 months or sooner if you need it. Some parasites look recognizable but things in your bowel movements may just be fibers from vegetables. It's hard to tell & I don't think the standard tests are accurate.
I never would have imagined that I had parasites but I did. They are very good at hiding...
Good luck. I think anyone who does this is going to get some benefits out of it. Not everyone may be really infested but it's not going to hurt to go through this type of cleanse.
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Hey Sparkle,
Welcome back. Glad to see you have made some progress with the parasites. I have been doing antiparasitics for over 3 yrs and still seeing worm segments.
I also think it takes a long time to get rid of these parasites. Always enjoy reading your posts as they are usually descriptive and informative. hope you are doing well,
Gael
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When I passed balls of white mucous..I saw, after I agitated the water ...the ball unraveled into a 1/2 " to also up to 2 1/2 inch thread worms I believe.
They were more whitish and translucent in color. Some have a little bit of pinkish red color inside that shows through in certain segments. Almost like it was my blood inside of it!
Then they would sink again to the bottom of the toilet, and go back into ball form. They were dead!
I found that when I agitate the water with a chopstick...many things surface that are almost clear, but you can see them float on the surface in the shape of worms. Most have been 1/4 to 1/2 inch in length. The little ones are pin worms.
I have pictures of the ones that came out that are about 2 to 3 inches in length...just so I could show my MD that I did indeed have worms, even if my tests were negative.
I also took many pictures of the tape worm 2 foot segment. I hesitate to post these here as not to gross out anyone, but if anyone PM's me, I will send them the pictures if that will help you know what to look for.
After I stopped my first cleanse with humaworm, I still had dead worms visually for over a 1 1/2 months. I kept using natural spices to keep them at bay. NOw after time has passed, I do not see anything visually, but will again do the humaworm in the future to get rid of eggs and newly hatched parasites.
I am feeling great now with intestinal issues. Even my husband comments that he has noticed I do not have the bloating and gas like reaction to things that gave it to me in the past!
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Hi Gael!
I thought the parasites would be the last of it but it wasn't the case. I'm glad I found out about this, though.
I passed alot of things that looked like flukes last spring. I was glad to get rid of them. My liver hurt for a while after that but it's healed.
I'm still in alot of pain. I did see a couple of flukes & something that looked like a roundworm about a week ago. So, the parasites are still breeding in me, I guess.
Now, it may be the new retrovirus they discovered (XMRV) or something else that's continuing to make me ill. It's hard to say.
It's good to get rid of the parasites in any case. I don't really think I had Lyme. I never had the same results as most people here did with the standard treatments.
I did try MMS but it was too strong. I had to stop. I may go back to it at some point in the future.
I did a 5 day detox with Dr Schulze's intestinal cleanse products #1 & #2. They were very good. I didn't need the #1 so much but the #2 product really did pull alot of toxins & weird looking things out of me.
I did get flu-like symptoms when I did the detox. They say it happens but I didn't think I was that toxic... Goes to show you.
The parasites do release toxins - so it's good to have something to clean up the system after killing them off.
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The day after I killed the tape worm...I had a very bad viral like sore throat, much different than I ever had, with a strange headache. And I very rarely get headaches.
I was scared that I let out some viruses when the tape worm exploded. I quickly took some binders, apple pectin, garlic tincture, apple cider vinegar, and chorella...for the entire following week!
Feel good now, but was concerned that I would have created more damage to my body.
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Just want to say that I am so glad that more people are becoming aware of the parasite connection to Lyme disease and taking the proper elimination steps.
As some of the Lymedocs stated they found it much easier to get rid of the other co-infections when they treated their patients for parasites.
Lightparfait,
Glad you got rid of that nasty tapeworm!
Not all doctors are aware of this, so you have to treat this on your own. Sending healing thoughts to everyone,
Gael
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quote:Originally posted by lightparfait: When I passed balls of white mucous
I had something like this on the seventh day of my Master Cleanser diet. I'm not sure if it was mucus but it was a small marble-sized ball like had the consistency of something like styrofoam. It was weird considering I had not eaten solid foods for seven days.
I'm going to try Humaworm in a couple weeks here, I'm hoping it may help me with my fatigue, brain fog, and derealization?
We'll see. I've been on antibiotics for over two years and have lost a lot of faith in them.
Stephen
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definitely happy with my results thus far on humaworm. 10 days into it. I feel like I might be having more of a herx though-some more confusion, and a bit "sea sick".
Though I'm wondering if its the coconut milk "ice cream" i've been eating the past few nights. Quite a treat-coconut milk and agave syrup, but I know coconut milk can make some people herx. Will pass on it tonight and see what happens.
My best friend has lyme too-he ordered huma worm after I told him what was coming out. I'm going to do with my son too.
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FYI: The parasites love to eat dairy products. Would refrain while on humaworm. Or, take the humaworm immediately before consuming a small amount of dairy to attract them...and they will eat it all together, and be killed.
If you eat dairy first, or other food first, the humaworm will not be eaten by the parasites, and be ineffective. They consume your food and your nutrients before you do.
In past, before all my treatments and diagnosis, I thought I was allergic to dairy...
Now I realize that it was mostly the parasites activating while I ate the dairy that caused my reactions. I now have no reaction to dairy products including ice cream and milk! Amazing.
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I find it very interesting that the Lymedocs say its easier to treat the co's when the parasites are gone...
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Is huma worm something we should look into after our antibiotic protocol is done?
I would suspect I don't want to do anything lik this while on antibiotics??
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Those of you on these antiparasitic protocols... are you able to function in every day life?
Do you feel you've healed tremendously?
I guess what I'm asking is the progress noticeable?
No matter what treatment I go on... I like to see progress and gain. Continued improvement.
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I must have parasites as my symptoms sound like many of yours. Lactose intolerance is one, bloating, gas, etc., another. I was better for the last few weeks, but when I am the least bit stressed, the symptoms return.
I tried Humaworm 8 months ago and nothing happened. Then tried again 3 months ago; after a week, I went down to one pill, and a week later I had to quit, as my stomach, GERD, and GI symptoms were so bad.
Would that have been a herx, do I have something unrelated to worms, or is it lyme or Bartonella? Or maybe a reaction to an ingredient in the humaworm? Have called them but they haven't got back to me yet.
Is it OK to take humaworm while taking Previcid, L-Glutamine, and thyroid pills?
I'm glad it has helped so many people.
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twinkle, sounded like a herx
a big herx for me is GERD, headaches, restless leg, and some ringing ears
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Does anyone know if the testing for tapeworms is reliable?? I have so many GI symptoms that just seem to get worse over time and all of my tests were negative for tapeworms. I did test positive for Cryptosporidium and have treated for that but I'm still questioning the accuracy of the stool sample tests. Help!! :-)
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My experience says that the tape worm tests are not accurate. I was negative...but saw the one I eliminated with the humaworm then the CoQ10 treatment for the head.
Parasites do not naturally release themselves into the stool, and particularly in the small sample that is tested. Your body adjusts to them and the terraine is perfect for them to survive along with you without detection.
You need to have eggs released into it or tape worm pieces for the test to show positive.
HUmaworm type products will show you what you have, and no testing needed. A very inexpensive remedy...and no test costs! You do your own live experiement! Enough of us on lymenet can confirm this.
I can a actually feel my tapeworm moving at times. Almost like the tail of it is vibrating back and forth when I eat ice cream or milk products...like it is happy! They eat your food first!
Also, if I have something hot or cold, the same vibration occurs. I can frequency test myself...like muscle test. Also my friend tests me. And it has been very accurate with the parasite ID. Said I had two tapeworms. I worked on killing them and one literally exploded and expelled itself. I was very ill afterwards and felt toxic in a way like never before. I do not recomment the CoQ10 tape worm killing treatment. IT works, but there is a downside to releasing all those toxins at once!
The other tapeworm is still there. And muscle testing confirms that now is not the time to kill it.
I believe it is absorbing the toxins expelled from killing the other parasites, and actually helping my health at this time.
There will come a time to more safely remove it.
Most of my GI problems were resolved with the parasite cleanse.
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