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Posted by TSTinaP (Member # 22927) on :
 
I removed an engorged tick in late June/early July. Waited for a bullseye and joint pain...my limited understanding of Lyme. Since Labor Day weekend I've been completely fatigued, muscle and joint pain, headaches, earaches, shoulder/neck, etc. Asked about bullseye. Was put on 21 days of Doxy, and tested for Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and Babesia after 10 days of Doxy. Negative, of course.

Have had no real improvement. Now after studying, I remember a red water blister...started like ringworm, but eventually raised and filled with fluid in late July. Think this was my rash?
 
Posted by kadee (Member # 21199) on :
 
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eventually raised and filled with fluid
Was the blister black after drying up afterwards?
Could be the "tache noire" from tularemia (Francisella tularensis) or rickettsia conorii.

Which is what I had three years ago, feeling instantly terribly ill ( 3 days after the tickbite).
 
Posted by TSTinaP (Member # 22927) on :
 
Actually, it healed much like a burn would. Blister popped, I kept bandaged and coated with Melaleuca Oil for a couple days until it wouldn't pick up lint or infection any longer. Still have a trace of color on my skin at nearly 2 months past original appearance. Blister was approx size of a quarter, pink to red in color, not at tick site.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Could have been. I often hear people mention a ringworm type rash.

You can go to "Treepatrol's Newbie Links" to see other rashes.

It's here in Medical... one of the first 10 threads.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
NOT at tick site?? Hmmm... then maybe not.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
here's the newbie links:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/29917
 
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
 
tina,

Welcome to Lymenet! I'm so glad you found us! You've come to the right place for education and support!

The following is some links that may be helpful to you:

Lyme Disease and Co-Infection Symptoms
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/81386


Dr. Burrascano's most recent "Diagnostic Hints and 2008 Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses" http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html


Pages 17-19 discuss Adult and Kids Treatments
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/80440?#000006


Dr. B's Supplement List
http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf


``Making the most of your LLMD visit''
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=020605#000005


New Member Learning links:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/29917


Link to Turn the Corner Foundation: Good info and contacts for finding a good LLMD. http://turnthecorner.org/lyme-disease-quick-facts.htm


People seeking doctors might be able to get help from their state online information and support group. Nearly 3,400 people belong to state groups. Some of the groups are small but more than 20 of them have 50 or more people and seven have over 100.

The groups are moderated and you have to apply. Most don't allow doctor names, but once on the group, you can ask for doctors in a certain area and ask people to email you privately.

To find your state group, go to
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/statenamelyme

Type your state name and lyme as one word, like this -
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/newyorklyme

South Carolina is the only state that needs a hyphen between the statename
and lyme, e.g. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/southcarolina-lyme

This explains the medical politics around Lyme, and why you need an ILADS-educated or ILADS-member LLMD (and there are also some ILADS-member LL NDs (naturopathic doctors):

www.clinicaladvisor.com/Controversy-continues-to-fuel-the-Lyme-War/article/117160/


You should also be evaluated for coinfections. Not all tests are great in that regard, either, but a good LLMD can evaluate you and then guide you in testing. www.igenex.com http://www.frylabs.com/; http://www.clongen.com/; http://focusdx.com


Dr C's Western Blot explanation is discussed here:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=042077


ILADS
The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS) provides a forum for health science professionals to share their wealth of knowledge regarding the management of Lyme and associated diseases. www.ilads.org

Under Our Skin Lyme Disease documentary www.lymediseasefilm.com

Herxing Reactions: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=041517

For the Igenex Western blot IgM and IgG blood test drawn on M, T, or W. Check current $$! Oct. 2008 Price List ... info only. Prices have increased on some! Call 1-800.832.3200 for current prices.
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/78648?#000003

They will also send you a ``test kit'' with their required form, all the test vials, & box to ship it in. Be sure to download Igenex's required form. MD, DO, ND, AC, DC are all fine** must sign, date, and show diagnosis code on there why he's ordering the test.


Optional tests include: co-infection panel for your area of country and PCR whole blood

Igenex is pre-pay/out of network for most insurances. If you are on medicare, Igenex will file the paperwork & it's free to you.

Get copies of all of your special bloodwork.

Overseas instructions for sending to Igenex/Fry Labs (2-23-08)
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=063751


Betty's suggested posting guidelines: Many of members have neuro lyme, and it is hard to read long solid block text and be able to comprehend.

For easier reading, please edit your post by clicking the ``paper pencil' icon to right of your user name, which opens up the subject line and body text.

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Thank you for posting in a manner that makes it easier for all to read and help others.
 
Posted by middlesizedpanda (Member # 20676) on :
 
First, I gotta say, I have had 3 lyme tests & all negative.

However, I had a blister on my ankle back in dec which had a red ring around which I first thought was ring worm.

The blister turned into an ulcer which took 3/4 months to heal after frequent dressing by nurses at my local clinic.

Since then I have had & continue to have many neuro type symptoms.

I have seen 2x infectious diseases doctors with no diagnosis or answers.

I have another appointment next friday with a neurologist as my symptoms are now looking more like ms.

I am still convinced this all started with the blister. Please keep me informed if you find any further info.
 
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
hmmm, my bullseye was classic. red and white alternating circles. the center had a blister top, small, but itched like crazy. the entire area looked oiley like i had put on neosporin or vasline.

i'm wondering about recluse spider cause a guy i worked with got bit and that sounds like what he had.

eventually he lost part of his foot over it. i don't know but blisters could be lyme.
 
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
 
Check out Granuloma Annulare

They recently found this rash to be associated with Lyme disease.

If you do a search on here, I believe I had posted a link to the study about this.
 
Posted by orrn (Member # 6672) on :
 
I get these weird bumps on my hands all the time that look very similar to the one picture on the

site AliG posted. They are extremely itchy! How am I not surprised that it is associated with LD...

orrn
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
This is what Burrascano says about the EM (lyme) rash:

"When an ulcerated or vesicular center is seen, this may represent a mixed infection, involving other organisms besides B. burgdorferi." (p. 7)

The word "vesicular" means blister.

Full document is here:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf
 


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