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Posted by street129 (Member # 23472) on :
 
this is what came back from my regular PCP bloodwork: positive results...can this be lupus.

Speckled: Highly related to systemic lupus erythematosus, mixed
connective tissue disease, Sj�gren's syndrome, polymyositis or
scleroderma

ANA-HEp-2 Positive Control: Human serum containing anti-nuclear
antibodies (ANA) homogeneous pattern, sodium azide 0.95 g/L.


anyone knows a site for lupus ...thanks
 
Posted by lymebytes (Member # 11830) on :
 
My LLMd says he has several patients with both Lyme and Lupus. You can have both.

A positive ANA test does not necessarily mean Lupus. A positive ANA can happen with ANY infection too.

Your LLMd should know to order tests C3A and C4A, they can help determine better is you have an autoimmune disease and/or bacterial infection, aka Lyme. More info here on these tests: http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/gingersavely/C3a%20and%20C4a.htm

If you have both, be careful treating, you will need a doctor who can treat both. Steroids for Lupus can be detrimental to LD and abx for Lyme can cause Lupus flares.

And sometimes, Lupus is a misdiagnoses and is really Lyme.

I hope your LLMd can sort it out, if not, see another LLMd and get an opinion.

You can find info on Lupus by googling it. You will see the symptoms are very similar.
 
Posted by street129 (Member # 23472) on :
 
this is from my pcp blood work that came in the mail today: it reads....

the ana pattern read speckled* and

the anti nuclear AB TITER IS 1.80

this is what i google, can anyone relate to this keepler where are you.. does this sound like i have lupus...

CALCULATIONS/REPORTING RESULTS
INTERPRETATION:
1. The interpretation of the results depends on the pattern observed, the titer of the
interpreted in light of the patient's total clinical presentation.

2. Titers less than 1:40 are considered negative.

3. Positive test: A positive reaction is the presence of any pattern of nuclear apple-green staining intensity. 1+ is considered a weak
reaction and 4+ a strong reaction. All sera positive at 1:40 should be titered to endpoint dilution.

This is accomplished by making 1:40, 1:80, 1:160, etc. serial dilutions of all positives. The endpoint
titer is the highest dilution that produces a 1+ positive reaction.

4. Homogeneous patterns with peripheral accentuation are frequently found in sera from patients with SLE
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Many replies to this are over at a nearly identical thread also posted at the same time:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/90997

Topic: it reads positive

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Posted by WildCondor (Member # 434) on :
 
Positive ANA is very common in Lyme patients. You can have an overactive immune response, or have both, or it can all be from Lyme. Ask your LLMD.
 
Posted by kbaucher (Member # 24352) on :
 
you can find all kinds of info about lupus at lupus.org
 
Posted by WildCondor (Member # 434) on :
 
He moved the post to another thread..sigh.
 


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