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Posted by 2roads (Member # 4409) on :
 
Hey,

My son is on Bactrim. He has started frequent urination. I don't know if that is because I have been pushing the liquids or we have an issue brewing.

What is safe to give a 7 year old that doesn't interfere with therapy, to support the kidneys?

Thanks...as always

2roads
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
www.inno-vita.com

Kidney-Klear comes in liquid form, so a few drops per day should help.
 
Posted by feelfit (Member # 12770) on :
 
cordyceps is good for kidney function..
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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With frequent urination (which can be good as it's a sign that inflammation may be decreasing) - be sure he has excellent mineral and electrolyte balance with lots of vegetables and dark berries, tart apples, lemon juice on his salads (maybe with a touch of stevia to sweeten it), etc. A little bit of sea salt is good, too.

Yes, CORDYCEPS is gentle and excellent. It also helps adrenal support. It's on Dr. B's supplement list.

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http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

On page three, he suggests Pharmanex "CordyMax" - information about that here:

www.pharmanex.com/px/hk/images/pdf/CordyMax.pdf

One source:

http://www.nuskin.com/en_US/products/pharmanex/targeted_treatments/energy_stamina/01003441.html

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From: The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tilltoson, et. al.)

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/cordyceps-mushroom-cordyceps-sinensis.html

CORDYCEPS MUSHROOM (Cordyceps sinensis)

Cordyceps mushroom is sweet and bland in taste, and warming in action. It strengthens immunity and fortifies and heals the lungs, heart and kidneys. Used as a tonic for weakness in the elderly and to promote longevity. . . .

- Full chapter at link above.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/display/Search?searchQuery=Kidneys&moduleId=1405778&moduleFilter=&categoryFilter=&startAt=0

From same book as above, results from a search of "kidneys" - good reading. There are 55 links.

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http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=kidney

32 articles from search of "Kidneys"

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

cordyceps sinensis - 500 abstracts

cordyceps, kidney - 34 abstracts

cordyceps, adrenal - 4 abstracts

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http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?ss=1&previousText=Cordyceps&Ntk=products&x=0&y=0&Ntt=Planetary%20Herbals%20Cordyceps

Planetary Herbals Cordyceps

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http://www.iherb.com/New-Chapter-Organics-Cordyceps-60-Capsules/53?at=0

New Chapter, Organics, Cordyceps, 60 Capsules

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Note: As this is a food source, from actual mushrooms, this is a slightly sweet and mild substance. You can open up a capsule and sprinkle it into food if he is has trouble swallowing capsules. It is good mixed in Quinoa or other non-gluten whole grains - or maybe with some steamed green beans, kale or even carrots.
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[ 04-10-2010, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://www.itmonline.org/5organs/kidney.htm

The 5 Organs Network of Chinese Medicine - Kidney

Excerpt:

Section: The Kidney Network . . .

. . . Kidney disorders are generally of a cold and deficient nature. Kidney therapy, therefore, needs to focus primarily on the tonification of deficiency; purging of excess is a definite taboo.

If kidney water is deficient, the kidney needs to be tonified by moistening yin. If kidney jing is deficient, it needs to be replenished by supplementing jing and tonifying the bone marrow.

If kidney yang is deficient, the kidney needs to be tonified by using modalities that strengthen yang. . . .

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Posted by 2roads (Member # 4409) on :
 
Thanks so much Keebler, Massman and Feelfit.

I looked up your suggestions. I was hoping I could go to my coop and find something with the ingredients you suggest in it...maybe a tincture or a tea.

He is so pilled out.

If not, I'll go to your very helpful websites.

That's interesting...a fungus with caterpillar larvae. [puke]

Sign me up.......... [Frown]

Hugs,

2roads
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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For a child the tea may be enough but, generally, a tea is not nearly as strong a dose as a capsule. Really, though, the capsule can be opened and put in food or in cup of warm water. It will not taste like very nice tea, though unless other things are added like a touch of ginger, etc.

If you do find a tea with cordyceps in it, be sure to look at the mg yield per cup. And treat it like daily medicine. With teas, often people take with a hit or miss approach. Consistency and dosing get mixed up.

Cordyceps is no longer grown on caterpillars. Now, they usually use brown rice as a base on pieces of wood in clean laboratory setting.

But, actually, that is how Rocephin was discovered, from Cordyceps growing on caterpillars. Unfortunately, Cordyceps does not have the same effect at Rocephin (as that has other laboratory processes) but it's an interesting tidbit.
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Posted by 2roads (Member # 4409) on :
 
You,re right Keebler, I can break it open.

Perhaps I could disguise it in a tea.

I have to go to the coop today and just look.

Finances real tight right now.

Pharmanex is a trustworthy company though. I will probably go that route. Does it say on the bottle how much for children?

:grouphug:2roads
 
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
 
Pekana drainage products is a good option...

http://www.forresthealth.com/_search.php?page=1&q=renelix&x=0&y=0
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
My favorites for kidney and liver support

Renelix
Unda 243
LiverLife

"Water drinking as being pushed by doctors is a big mistake. You are flushing out the already deficient minerals even more". This was a comment by Dr.K. at a recent Healing the Brain seminar.

Drink occasional small amounts of liquids, juices, soups, that will not go straight through the system but need to be metabolized and stay in the body to have time to be absorbed.

If you do not have the correct minerals on board, no detox or getting rid of the killing debris can take place and that is where all the evil usually starts == retaining toxins.
 
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
 
I also have frequent urination while on Bactrim
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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GiGi just posted this thread:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/86559

Topic: Supporting the Kidneys
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER SUPPORT LINKS & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.

Some KIDNEY support detail, too.
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