My LLMD rocommended this. I believe it is good for the gut and the immune system as gwb mentioned.
I found that it made me nauseated.
I should probably give it another try but it didn't seem normal to me that I was sick after ingesting it.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Haley,
If it does what it's supposed to...
I would imagine that you could expect some gut flare-ups.
(aka die-off)
Jmo
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
I've been on it for about a year. It has helped me a great deal with colon inflammation. I used to get so much colon pain that it hurt to sit.
I knew someone who said that they had a lot of symptoms when they first started taking it so I think you are right on with your comment cane.
Since so much of our immune system depends on the gut, it seems like a good idea to help the gut get into good condition.
Terry
Posted by trigal2 (Member # 20578) on :
I have been taking this off and on for 5 years. Have taken daily for the past 7 months since I re-started lyme tx again.
I find it to be great for the immune system and seems to help with me with leaky gut.
I never noticed a herx on it.
Rather pricey but IMO/E is well worth it.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Bump
I'm seriously considering this for my gut inflammation
Posted by karenl (Member # 17753) on :
It supports your immune system and is an alternative to IVIGs. Yes it is lower dosage but it helps me to get low IGG higher. You have to start with ver low dose and work your way up. You can get bad herxes of IGG 2000, depending on your situation.
I recommend it and think everybody should try it for one month and see if it helps.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Dr Jeff on curezone.com says.... (re: Xymogen's IgG product)
"The ingredients would probably be beneficial if they aren't all bound up by the stearic acid and magnesium stearate that they use as flow agents."
Posted by Bugg (Member # 8095) on :
I tried to "modulate" my immune system which I felt was still "attacking" after I stopped years of abx....I didn't see that it did anything but I only tried it for a month....Vitamin D and whey protein worked much better for me....
(I should add: like whey protein, Xymogen is supposed to raise glutathione levels)I needed the protein/amino acids, though, from whey for my aching muscles...
Again, though, I did not take this for "gut" issues so cannot comment on that...
Good Luck!
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
Some kids with PANDAS (autoimmune problem related to strep) finally get really cured with IVIG. It is not known exactly how, but it may be the good IG overwhelming the bad IG causing the autoimmune reaction, maybe crowding them out so they do not multiply.
This approach of ingesting IGG, I dunno, never tried it. But, for an autoimmune problem, I wonder if it will allow the body to produce more of the bad IG. Maybe not. Maybe it just gets digested in the gut and whatever it does (hopefully some good) is limited to what happens right there in gut.
Just some thoughts, not an expert on any of this. I do believe I have autoimmune issues and haven't tried ingesting the IGG, but am hoping to get IVIG relatively soon.
Michael
Posted by MelissaJ (Member # 12467) on :
If I recall my husbands LLMD said something about biofilms with this product.
Because of everything else he is one, he isn't sure what it is doing.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Just ordered the powder.
I will let you guys know in a month or 2 if it helped with gut inflammation, etc.
It's specifically suppose to help with H Pylori ad what-not.
So that's good... since most of us here have H Pylori. (I breath tested positive)
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Anybody else have an opinion on this stuff?
How long do most of your LLMD's recommend you take this for?
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Do you guys take it with or without food?
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Bump^^
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
bumpity : )
Posted by keltyl (Member # 14050) on :
Xymogen products are good. My LD uses alot of them. This sounds like a product I would benefit from.
Right now he has me taking InflammaCore by Ortho Molecular Products. It's a powder you mix with liquid (I use almond milk). Also rather pricey. It's a big can, but you're suppossed to use 2 scoops, and the scoops are huge. I'm skipping a day here and there.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
OrthoMolecular is a good brand.
I use their probiotics.
I drink almond milk too. Do you notice any effects with yeast?
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
monolaurin... is that found in coconut oil?
Or am I thinking of something else?
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
Sorry canefan - I decided to delete the post because I thought it might divert the original purpose of your post.
I made a comment that monolaurin and mastic gum are both known to treat h. pylori.
Several years ago I researched it and wrote an article. Here is part of it.
Monolaurin is made from lauric acid and is a patented ester of lauric acid. Lauric acid is a naturally occurring substance found in mothers milk and coconut oil.
Monolaurin possesses anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-protozoal and anti-bacterial properties. It has been found to destroy lipid coated viruses such as the flu, HIV, HHV-6 (strains A and B), EBV and CMV to name a few. It's helpful in treating h. pylori, the bacterial infection that causes ulcers. It may also be helpful in improving the immune system's anti-inflammatory response.
Monolaurin is thought to have the potential to kill certain fat coated viruses by causing the fatty coat to become liquid which then leads to the disintegration of viral particles that were inside the fatty envelope.
Terry
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
Mol Cell Biochem. 2005 Apr;272(1-2):29-34.
Minimum inhibitory concentrations of herbal essential oils and monolaurin for gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria.
Preuss HG, Echard B, Enig M, Brook I, Elliott TB.
Department of Physiology and Biophysics, Georgetown University Medical Center, Washington, DC 20057, USA. [email protected]
Abstract New, safe antimicrobial agents are needed to prevent and overcome severe bacterial, viral, and fungal infections. Based on our previous experience and that of others, we postulated that herbal essential oils, such as those of origanum, and monolaurin offer such possibilities.
We examined in vitro the cidal and/or static effects of oil of origanum, several other essential oils, and monolaurin on Staphylococcus aureus, Bacillus anthracis Sterne, Escherichia coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Helicobacter pylori, and Mycobacterium terrae.
Origanum proved cidal to all tested organisms with the exception of B. anthracis Sterne in which it was static.
Monolaurin was cidal to S. aureus and M. terrae but not to E. coli and K. pneumoniae. Unlike the other two gram-negative organisms, H. pylori were extremely sensitive to monolaurin. Similar to origanum, monolaurin was static to B. anthracis Sterne.
Because of their longstanding safety record, origanum and/or monolaurin, alone or combined with antibiotics, might prove useful in the prevention and treatment of severe bacterial infections, especially those that are difficult to treat and/or are antibiotic resistant.
PMID: 16010969 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Very Cool.
Posted by ninjaphire (Member # 18234) on :
Has anyone here compared the Xymogen stuff to other high Ig colostrum products ?
canefan, If you have used colostrum products before, It would be great if you could compare them.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
I haven't used colostrum.
Xymogen's IgG is a non-dairy source.
I've always been told to be careful with colostrum because of the source (bovine)
Posted by ninjaphire (Member # 18234) on :
non-dairy ?
So is that milk from non-bovines, or derived from something other than milk ?
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
My understanding is that Xymogen's IgG is from bovine. But, I'm not surprised to hear it's non-dairy, I would think it would come from the animal's blood.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Ya I'm not sure exactly. Maybe i'll call and ask them. I was just reading off the label.
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
IgG 2000 DF� is a purified, highly concentrated (45%), very low saturated fat, dairyfree, consistent source of bovine serum-derived immunoglobulin antibodies and immunoproteins that provides immune enhancement by directly boosting immunoglobulin levels in the GI tract.