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Posted by greengirl (Member # 25316) on :
 
I've had a metallic taste in my mouth for a couple of weeks, now. Anyone else get this or have ideas to look in to?
 
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
 
Hi, greengirl!
Magnesium and/or malic acid cause this sometimes.

Other trace metals (useful mineral supplements we take) could cause this, too. Possibly Calcium?

If you're taking more magnesium than your bod needs, you'll get diarrhea.

To keep taking the same supplements without metallic aftertaste, be sure to take mineral supplements and malic acid in the middle of a large meal.

For example, I'm on abx, and take my abx with B & D. No mineral supplements with doxy. So, at lunchtime i take most of my mineral supplements in the middle of my substantial GF lunch.

Hope this helps. Just sharing ideas. I'm not a healthcare professional.
Smile
 
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
 
I had this a lot

then when i had my amalagam fillings replace the taste went away
 
Posted by kissygoose (Member # 21314) on :
 
I had that when I went on biaxin.
 
Posted by RESOLVED. (Member # 24991) on :
 
I had it with Tindamax.
 
Posted by JOLA (Member # 23498) on :
 
Biaxin
 
Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
 
had it with biaxan. I eventually got used to it.
 
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
 
Biaxin --Jolly Rancher candy helped -Jay-
 
Posted by hadlyme (Member # 6364) on :
 
Was on Flagyl at one point, and llmd told me I would have that taste.... and he said to eat potatoe chips. It worked.

This is a common taste reaction to the drugs in our system.

Find what works for you to 'mask' the taste.
 
Posted by Kimchi (Member # 26915) on :
 
Had it during first week on minocycline but seemed to go away...
 
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hadlyme:
on Flagyl at one point, and llmd told me I would have that taste.... and he said to eat potatoe chips. It worked.

Shall I ask my LLMD to write a script for potato chips just in case i get a metallic taste from my next abx?

[lick]
Smile
 
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
 
As pathogens die, (borrelia, viruses, candida, parasites and probably others), they release heavy metals.

Good idea to be on a heavy metal binder, especially if you have a metallic taste in your mouth.

Terry
I'm not a doctor
 
Posted by hopeful_K (Member # 25915) on :
 
I have it on Biaxin. It's so bad it wakes me up at night. As a result, I keep sugar free mints on the night stand.
 
Posted by hadlyme (Member # 6364) on :
 
Go for it "remember to smile".... love to see the look on his/her face.

By the way.. the llmd that stated this is one of the top llmd's on the East coast. Take it for what it is worth. [Embarrassed] )
 
Posted by greengirl (Member # 25316) on :
 
Thanks guys. I'm not on magnesium, yet and don't have fillings. So, I was wondering about release of metals. I did't know abx could do this, too. I am taking Chlorella, already. Guess I'll check out the chips. [Wink] See doc tomorrow, so I'll speak to him about that script. "_
 
Posted by Blackstone (Member # 9453) on :
 
Many antibiotics are capable of altering taste. A metallic taste is very common with Flagyl, for instance (Tindamax has a lesser occurrence of this symptom compared to Flagyl, but it does happen). Many patients also report certain foods "not tasting right", as well.

Just inform your physician, but I'm sure you can find a type of food or drink that will help dull the metallic taste. Many find green tea to be helpful, as well as mint tea.
 
Posted by DebraKelly (Member # 24925) on :
 
It's definitely Biaxin for me. I eat Dentyne cinnamon sugar free Fire gum whenever I get that taste. If it's nightime I have a bowl of popcorn with lots of sea salt. My pharmacist says to eat a piece of chocolate - but that's not good for you if you have lyme.

Good luck!
 
Posted by LightAtTheEnd (Member # 24065) on :
 
Once in a while I get a bad taste from Biaxin, and my doc says to drink more water, which seems to help me.

When I first started doxy, after a month I lost the ability to taste sweet things for several weeks, so anything sweet tasted like bland mush. It came back, though, and has not bothered me again in the last several months.

I had a bit of a bad taste on the worst days when I had thrush last week. If it's related to yeast, you can tell because your tongue will be white.
 
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
 
greengirl wrote:
So, I was wondering about release of metals. I did't know abx could do this, too.

It's not abx per se, it is anything that can kill pathogens. My LLMD told me this in the 2nd visit. I don't fully understand why but apparently scientists are looking at using certain types of bacteria to help absorb and remove heavy metals from the environment.

Dr. K states this:
http://tinyurl.com/24q9fdt
Research by Ludwig, Voll and others in Germany, by Omura and myself here in the US, showed that microorganisms tend to set up their housekeeping in those body compartments, that have the highest pollution with toxic metals.

The body's own immune cells are incapacitated in those areas whereas the microorganisms multiply and thrive in an undisturbed way. The teeth, jawbone, Peyers patches in the gutwall, the groundsystem (connective tissue) and the autonomic ganglia are common sites of metal storage - where microorganisms thrive.

Furthermore, those body areas also are vasoconstricted and hypoperfused (by blood, nutrients and oxygen), which fosters the growth of anaerobic germs, fungi and viruses.

------------------------------------------------

I suppose they take up the heavy metals when they live in our bodies. I'm just guessing though.

I think just about everyone has exposure to heavy metals whether they have amalgams or not. I don't know about mercury but aout 50% of the mothers lead burden is transferred to the fetus. This information used to be on the EPA website.

Terry
I'm not a doctor
 
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
 
TerryK,
Thank you for sharing that article on "Heavy Metals & Chronic Disease" by Dr K.

hadlyme, i used ur post to justify buying a bag of potato chips Fri. Finished the bag by Sunday. Had been awhile, and they were good!
Smile
 
Posted by vanbench19 (Member # 25328) on :
 
Before I went on any abx, I had a severe metallic taste in my mouth that lasted about 2 weeks and then subsided. At this time, I also started to get incredible fatigue. I happened to have my blood work taken at this time by my LLMD and when I finally saw her a month later, it was learned that my iron levels were extremely high. Which they were never before.

When trying to figure out this problem, my LLMD explained that if I have a parasite or something that rapidly destroys red blood cells it will release the iron from the cells into the blood and cause the metallic taste. Since a parasite like Babesia acts like malaria and it will come and go in a cyclical manner which may be why it slowly subsided.

To combat this problem, she put me on malarone and I have had a slight metallic taste but not a severe one since. There is no telling if it is exactly right but it makes more sense than anything else. You may have to really look at certain symptoms like increasing fatigue with the metallic taste or otherwise it could be something else.
 
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
 
Too much iron can be a big problem. Good to bring that up, vanbench19.

I think most Lyme patients should not take any supplemental iron. Multi-vit should be without iron. I've read nutritional advice that we should even avoid spinach and lentils for same reason.
 
Posted by TerryK (Member # 8552) on :
 
I was told me not to supplement with iron because babesia uses iron.
 
Posted by catdog (Member # 26365) on :
 
I'm on Biaxin too and have that awful metallic taste. I drink lots of water throughout the day but can't get rid of it. It's always worse 1/2-1 hr after I take my dose. I'm def. going to try the suggestions here!


What's the best multivitamin to take that doesn't have iron?
 
Posted by greengirl (Member # 25316) on :
 
This is all really great, guys, thanks.

Talked to LLMD. At this point it seems that the most likely culprit is Babesia. My test for that was negative, but that doesn't sway doc when symptoms are present. We're looking to start treating that soon, after trying a couple other things.

The iron thing is a trouble. I take iron for sleep issues and had very very low levels last time I tested for that. So, I'll need to test that again.

I also started taking mag,zinc and copper so, hopefully, any metals that are stirred up no longer have a place to bind.

I went to a lead safe work practices training for work last week (I don't do lead work, but monitor recordkeeping/etc.). They recommended that lead mitigation contractors supplement those, too, for the same reason. It was nice to see that.
 
Posted by vanbench19 (Member # 25328) on :
 
does anyone know why iron is not good for Lyme. I read some sites that say that the bacteria really doesn't use iron to survive. I am doing some more research into this whole iron thing because I am finding that certain things make my symptoms worse, such as, sun chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin c and Miracle mineral solution. The only thing I can find in comon with them is iron. They all seem to have something to do with iron and i am wondering if it is not the babesia but an actual iron disorder that is holding my progress back. If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. Thanks
 
Posted by Remember to Smile (Member # 25481) on :
 
VanBench19,
I know too much Vit C can cause diarrhea.
What symptoms have you noticed associated with milk thistle and chlorella? Thx.
Smile
 
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
 
I had it for months, don't know why...it went away on its own...
 
Posted by TN Kim (Member # 26729) on :
 
Glad to find this thread. Have a terrible metallic taste in my mouth ... currently pulsing

with Tinidazole (Tindamax). YUCK!
 


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