LymeNet Flash: What Are Your Top "Big Guns" Immune Supps When You Are Really Sick?

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Posted by esea (Member # 18269) on :

Hi Folks,

I would love to know what your emergency immune supplements are THAT ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT YOU CAN FEEL. (Sorry the caps - didn't mean to yell, I am just so sick of supps that do nothing!)

For me, when I'm feeling the dreaded flu-like symptoms of lyme, the only things that makes me feel better are Oregacillin and VitC in high doses. I have also felt a noticeable difference in the past from high doses of olive leaf.

I would like to have some other weapons in my arsenal. What immune supp could you not do without?

thanks!

Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :

If I try to increase my immune response I feel SICKER!!! The cytokine response that makes you feel like you have the flu is your immune response. I have to work to increase anti-inflammatory immune response, so I can't take things like "normal" people can or I get sicker. So, no elderberry, high dose vitamin C, Transfer Factor, etc. for me!

Turmeric is a mainstay for me, even now that I'm better (because I teach pilates and sometimes I overdo it, but I also take it when I get sick with a cold/flu).

Here is a link to an article that I found very helpful. http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?id=3748&t=CFIDS_FM

Whey protein drinks and coffee enemas always have been helpful as well.

Epsom salt baths (full of magnesium, easily absorbed by the skin).

Posted by esea (Member # 18269) on :

Great info Sixgoofykids.

So when I feel the flu-like lyme symptoms of:

feverish+rage+hit-by-a-truck

Those are cytokines?

Do you feel better after taking turmeric when you are in the throes of getting sick?
thanks.

Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :

I believe that the tumeric is for pain and inflammation.

Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :

Well, it helps, but I wouldn't say good.

Coffee enemas helped those symptoms the most. Or epsom salt baths were second best.

Burbur and parsley (especially burbur) helped, too.

Nothing can take it away entirely.

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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Terms that scare me: "Big Guns" - "weapons" - "arsenal"

Be very careful not to boost - but to support. Suggestions above are good ones. More below:

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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It's very important to have this book as a reference tool for self-care and support measures. It answers so many questions in detail that is impossible here on the forum.

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)- by KS, MD

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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EXCELLENT support methods are discussed here:

http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview - by Rebecca Snow, MS, RH, (AHG), CNS, LDN
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