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Posted by hubbylyme (Member # 28529) on :
 
My Husband has not been sleeping and his heart rate will flutter. Sleeping pills didn't work and he had back surgery and they are saying that he is having a reaction to the steriods he took and stopped them. He has weird dreams and periods of cold and periods of sweats at night. He said that he feels like someone is taking over his mind and is very emotional. Any little thing makes him cry. Is all of this tied into him having surgery and making the lyme progress. All he is taking is minocyclene and i remember that someone said that they can only treat one thing at a time, he also has bartenella. any one have suggestions?
 
Posted by lululymemom (Member # 26405) on :
 
I have bartonella and have been treating my heart issues with Magnesium and CoQ10..

I am not treating with abx yet and not sure I will be, but the magnesium really calms my heart at night.

The sweats almost sound like babesia, maybe someone else can offer some advice on that..
 
Posted by Pam08 (Member # 19203) on :
 
It could be from the steroids. Steroids are a HUGE no no when you have lyme disease. It can really flare things up and make things worse when you have lyme.

It is good that he has stopped the steroids but if all this was due to the steroids I have no clue how long it might take for him to recover from that. Hopefully someone else will come along and chime in on that.

Also the general consensus seems to be that it is best to take a combo of antibiotics and not just one. So your husband may need to be taking more than just the minocycline.

Is he seeing an LLMD? He really needs to have a good LLMD.

As the other member mentioned...Coenzyme Q10 and Magnesium are both good for heart issues. I use them for mine as well.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Steroids can hang out in the body for about six months. Nutritional support methods can help, of course.

If all he is taking is minocycline, I'm sorry that he doesn't have a LLMD who is more current on the support methods that many consider essential to successful treatment.

The crying can be from the steroids (I've been there, sadly) . . . and from all of this. Magnesium can help but a good supplement plan is best.

You might start with some of the suggestions here, in addition to magnesium, hawthorn is excellent support for the heart.

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Topic: To everyone with CARDIAC symptoms please read !
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

�� Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease ��

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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It's very important to have this book as a reference tool for self-care and support measures. It answers so many questions in detail that is impossible here on the forum.

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)- by KS, MD

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-Autism Connection Conference

125 pages � Powerpoint presentation

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By the same author as above, Chapter 1 from the book "Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment"

http://www.lymebook.com/steven-harris

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Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment: 13 Lyme-Literate Health Care Practitioners Share Their Healing Strategies

Connie Strasheim (Author), Maureen Mcshane M.D. (Foreword), Thirteen Lyme-Literate Doctors (Contributor)

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Search both Amazon and YouTube for:

The Lyme Disease Survival Guide

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� of the way down page one, there are lots of LIVER LINKS:

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Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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Posted by hadlyme (Member # 6364) on :
 
Ck out symptoms for Hypothryoid too....
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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In addition to his LLMD addressing lyme (and, hopefully, any other infections), other kinds of treatment can be of tremendous support:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/2/13964?

Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), acupuncturist, etc.

Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.

Includes many articles and books on complementary / integrative methods - & RIFE links.

BODY WORK links are also included.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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After all that, I remember that the crying has so much to do with adrenal exhaustion. Steroids made that much worse. So, after all the talk about liver support, I would start with ADRENAL SUPPORT and then move on to other supportive measures.

If he's taking any kind of sleeping Rx, those can also cause crying and severe sadness.

Weekly massage was also very important to my being able to stop crying. It really calms the nervous system that is so fried from lyme.

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Topic: NATURAL SLEEP - Links to articles & supplements

ADRENAL LINKS are included as adrenal support is vital for good sleep.

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Topic: Looking for long term pain management

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If the body is not able to process certain meds, this is something to consider. And a steroid reaction is very common for those with this kind of liver enzyme deficiency, too. Start with the "Secondary Porphyria" post:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/91842?

PORPHYRIA
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Steroids will make "normal" people lie awake all night AND INCREASE THE HEART RATE.

This may take some time to clear his system.
 
Posted by little_olive (Member # 28063) on :
 
My two cents:

I've been on steroids before all this Lyme stuff and never experienced any of those symptoms.

Doxycycline is effective for some types of bartonella but I am unsure if minocycline is? Your LLMD may want to prescribe something more bart-specific...

And steroids + bartonella should never be in the same PARAGRAPH!

His highly emotional state is most definitely tied to the bartonella, exacerbated by the steroids, in my opinion. It has the highest chance of causing those symptoms among all the infections, except perhaps late stage Lyme disease, but bartonella causes these fluctuations MUCH more rapidly. Please assure him that it's the infections causing him to feel as if he's losing his mind--goodness knows I've been there--and do NOT take anymore steroids! Ever, unless his life is in imminent danger! They lower the body's immune system response and let infections take over! [Frown]


little olive
 
Posted by elizzza811 (Member # 24713) on :
 
You might want to consider this new research....

DECT Cordless Phones (and WiFi) Causes Heart Irregularities:

http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20101022-cordless-heart.asp

[ 10-27-2010, 11:53 PM: Message edited by: elizzza811 ]
 
Posted by Pinelady (Member # 18524) on :
 
I have a penny----Lyme can be exacerbated by any type of emotional or physical insult.

I would call your doc and tell him whats going on. He may want to switch to another route for a few weeks to see how he reacts...

Or he could tell you he is herxing and it will get better...Keep an eye on him.
 


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