Seems like I have a mental herx following deep tissue massage.
I have really tight muscles (like cement) and it doesn't allow me to move my spine very well.
So...i get someone to dig in. But afterwards (even 4-5 days after) seems like my mental frame of mind takes a nose dive.
Is this fibro, or lyme, or babs, or bart, or other???
Posted by fflutterby (Member # 28081) on :
I believe so, massage releases toxins. I get soooooo relaxed after massage. Maybe an Epsom Salt soak will help?
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
yea, i do that. feels like i need to soak twice a day. thats how badly my body needs heat.
i've been struggling to put in 30 hours at work each week. i kind of want to just not work for a while, but i dont feel like that's an option.
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
yea, i do that. feels like i need to soak twice a day. thats how badly my body needs heat.
i've been struggling to put in 30 hours at work each week. i kind of want to just not work for a while, but i dont feel like that's an option.
Posted by fflutterby (Member # 28081) on :
I'm struggling with 3o hours too. I don't stop from 6 am to 10:30pm, housework, homework, activities. I need my stamina back !!! Lyme is too expensive not to work though. I feel better mentally now that I am back to work, really. Less time to dwell on it.
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
yea i suppose keeping busy doesn't allow you to dwell. but i got kind of obsessed with keeping a schedule and doing things the "right" way.
which includes EATING EXERCISE AND SLEEPING! AHH! I barely find time to make my meals, thank God for my family who is sensitive to what I can have and can't have.
OR..maybe if we tell ourselves it's super easy to get well again...it will be.
And maybe it's ok to not talk to many friends. I've always been a bit private, but now it's like there is a fortress around me. self built, for my protection and 'theirs'!
I just can't handle taking on conversations with people outside of work and my family. Work and getting better takes all my energy.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Not a herx. A herx is die off from bacterial death.
Massage will not kill bacteria.
Posted by 0ldman (Member # 22101) on :
The massage will have a similar effect as general activity. It will get the toxins that are in your tissue loose and into the blood stream.
It is the same as a herx, it is just from the toxins that are built up in your tissue being released from previous bug death.
Posted by hopeforhealth (Member # 23673) on :
I have this. It has taken me 8 months to be able to somewhat tolerate a massage and my therapist has to be very gentle. She does no deep tissue, I would not be able to handle it.
In the beginning I would feel horrible for 4 days afterward with a major increase in symptoms. Don't know if it is a herx or what to call it. But I do feel in the long run it will be helpful. I think it happens for the same reason we cannot tolerate exercise.
I go every 1-2 weeks. Hope you feel better.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Some believe deep tissue is bad for Lyme patients. You might read about it to determine if that's the right type of massage for you. Stephen Buhner, author of Healing Lyme believes Swedish massage is right for Lyme patients. My massage therapist is also trained in lymphatic drainage and other techniques.
Second, massage releases a lot of toxins, so yes, it feels like a herx. We throw around the word herx to describe anything that increases symptoms. It's not quite accurate.
Be sure to drink lots of water to flush out all that massage stirs up.
Posted by Shahbah (Member # 28735) on :
It may be from a clogged lymphatic system and that iswhy epsom salt baths help... SO keep detoxing and exrcicing, moving, drinking water, it should be helpful...
Posted by joshzz (Member # 23526) on :
i agreee it is a herx. i get massages regularly and it helps clear up a lot of fog. if i could afford it i would do it at least two times a week.
best thing to do is drink a lot of fluids following massage.
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
i always drink alot of fluids after a massage and I even treat myself with the Lymphstar (helps liquefy clogged lymph)
I can handle a LOT of pressure during the massage. IN fact, its the only way to get my rock like muscles to release. but i pay for it later that's for sure.
Posted by hopeforhealth (Member # 23673) on :
Mine feels great while I get it too, Have had deep tissue and also could handle it during, it is after that is torture. I guess its up to you if the aftermath is worth it.
Posted by hopeforhealth (Member # 23673) on :
Mine feels great while I get it too, Have had deep tissue and also could handle it during, it is after that is torture. I guess its up to you if the aftermath is worth it.
Posted by hopeforhealth (Member # 23673) on :
Mine feels great while I get it too, Have had deep tissue and also could handle it during, it is after that is torture. I guess its up to you if the aftermath is worth it.
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
yea definitely ...starting to feel like it's not worth the aftermath. but man, how else can we get our muscles to unlock? I'm 26, I should NOT be feeling like my bones are surrounded by cement! (none of use should feel like this)
Posted by Shahbah (Member # 28735) on :
fryecracker, you're only 26!!! I'm 30 and feel this muscle tightness everywhere, but again, I'm pretty sure that us, women, suffer from that tension more than men... any chance you maye have endometriosis or some hormone imbalance?
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
Definitely have hormone imbalance. Getting a consult from a neurologist, hoping the extensive blood work will offer more explanation. I don't think this is all Lyme/Babs/Bart. I know these can cause issues like this, but i just have a feeling there is some auto-immune disorder of some kind going on.
I've been feeling this way for 9 years! yuck.
Posted by joshzz (Member # 23526) on :
I was told by several neurologists that didn't know much about lyme that it was autoimmune.
If i listened to them and didn't get on iv antibiotics, I would have been dead back in 1998.